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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.4%)
Real Madrid - 80 (67.2%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
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September 26, 2022, 03:41:57 PM
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If Messi comes back to Barcelona next season I'm pretty sure that he would do his best for the team. I don't think that Xavi would change his strategies to build a game based on him. But he would surely find the right place for him in the starting eleven.

His current performance level at PSG is definitely enough for the team. As long as he keeps this up regularly they will stay strong against every team they face in the Champions League. After having a very productive season I wonder if Barcelona will try their luck by making an offer. Actually they have the biggest credit for Messi already as long as they agree terms with him about a contract.

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September 26, 2022, 03:42:01 PM
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There are two teams that can still keep them from losing, and these two teams are teams that are used to competing for the title, Real Madrid and Barcelona. This is something we have seen in the La Liga table for a long time. But now it's back with new colors from Barcelona especially. This is good news for Barcelona fans, but not for Real Madrid. Because now they will not be as comfortable as last season when they managed to become champions.
These two teams do have good strategic analysis and very supportive strength so it is very difficult to beat, unfortunately these two big teams will soon meet in the match in October next month, so this will be a very interesting match and of course when watching live on the field live will create a thrilling atmosphere.
The strategy battle between Carlo Ancelotti and Xavi Hernandez will be presented in this big match. Xavi with his trademark is to dominate the game, while Ancelotti will be more waiting and looking for opportunities to take advantage of mistakes made by Barcelona. In terms of experience, it is clear Ancelotti is more experienced than Xavi. But Xavi will not allow Ancelotti to break the strategy he will apply in this match.

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September 26, 2022, 03:48:52 PM
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If Messi comes back to Barcelona next season I'm pretty sure that he would do his best for the team. I don't think that Xavi would change his strategies to build a game based on him. But he would surely find the right place for him in the starting eleven.

His current performance level at PSG is definitely enough for the team. As long as he keeps this up regularly they will stay strong against every team they face in the Champions League. After having a very productive season I wonder if Barcelona will try their luck by making an offer. Actually they have the biggest credit for Messi already as long as they agree terms with him about a contract.
with great consideration, Barcelona should be able to bring Messi home. but that would go against Barca's current finances. although quite good with the signing of players in the summer transfer market. but Barca also had to release some of their players to cover their finances.
brought Messi from a rich club and was concerned with business. I don't think it will be easy for Barcelona to get Messi again. except with Barcelona's ability to reach an agreement with PSG.









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September 26, 2022, 03:58:52 PM
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If Messi comes back to Barcelona next season I'm pretty sure that he would do his best for the team. I don't think that Xavi would change his strategies to build a game based on him. But he would surely find the right place for him in the starting eleven.

Messi will quickly find his game with Barcelona, moreover the current coach is his teammate when gaining success when they played together first. There is not much difference from Xavi's current strategy, it can be said that he adopted the gameplay when he played before and he applies it at Barcelona now. Of course, Messi has memorized the strategy used by Xavi. In addition, Xavi will also definitely give freedom to Messi, in other words he already knows very well his ability to cultivate the round skin.

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September 26, 2022, 04:15:17 PM
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Don't you find it weird when weekends like this arrive and there are no games in La Liga? It is almost like a religious ritual: for many people, football could at least enter the category of "ideology", as they may feel compelled to make some decisions depending on the calendar. I am not that type of person, but I feel a little emptiness on days like today, not being able to watch my favourite teams play against each other.
Friend, may be you have an addiction?  Smiley On the one hand, I understand you because I recently experienced similar feelings due to a pause in the Premier League, but there was a different situation - the pause was unexpected. The current pause was known in advance and there was no "cancellation of what you have been waiting for a long time." After all, the teams you follow are associated with certain players - you can follow them in the national team format. Yes, it's not a complete replacement, but still.
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Yes, it becomes natural when you really become a football connoisseur, but don't worry there is still a match even though it's not here. We can still see them competing at the level of their respective countries. This should be said to be a common thing, because we have gone through things like this, even without a match some time ago. I'm sure I don't need to say when it happened, because everyone felt the impact.

KTChampions, There are a lot of differences between club football and international football as compared to each other. it is impossible to replace one with another. there is no doubt that international football is more interesting when the world cup is very close at hand. in addition, i am really interested in seeing how the players perform with their respective national teams prior to the World Cup.

Fesatmas, All over the world, football is something that will always be a part of the lives of a great deal of people. however, i do think that we sometimes don't give enough importance to international football as we do to club football. we have to realize that there is no bigger event in football compared to the world cup.

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September 26, 2022, 04:24:01 PM
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For Busquest, I think Xavi will try to hold him for another year or two if he will continue managing Barcelona. He appreciate him and unless he drops a lot, I assume his contract will be extended.
For De Jong, I don't know how barcelona is thinking but I think that both parties will agree a salary cuts. The problem is the salary that De Jong owes from Barca. Will they cut his salary and reimburse him?

As far as I remember, Barcelona owes Busquets, Pique, Alba and Messi more than 130+ million. And the nuance is that if Busquets or Pique are fired, then it will no longer be possible to stretch these payments over time. Barcelona will find themselves in yet another difficult situation next summer and Tebas has already said that they will be forced to cut wages again. As for De Jong, I hope he will continue to stick to his position and refuse to take a pay cut.

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September 26, 2022, 05:06:34 PM
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Messi will never return to Barca as a player or as someone in the board! He will be club history and the most respected player from Barca but Messi has nothing to do with coaching or having any skills towards management so yea ...he is good with the ball and that's it. ERA of Messi in Barcelona has ended 2 years ago.
Is there a statement about that? Because every player let alone he is a legend of the team it will be very possible to come back, either as a player and or as a coach and maybe as other staff. Even the current coach for Xavi, did anyone previously think that Xavi would return as coach? I don't think it was a planned event. Because a player can take a coaching license when he learns it, so whatever it will be in the future Messi will still return to Barcelona is something that is certain to happen.

I do not think there is a statement about Messi not returning to Barcelona. I agree with you that people did not expect Xavi to return to Barcelona as a coach when he was a player. However, that is exactly what has happened and he is doing quite well with the team. There is also a chance that Messi, because of the way that he loves Barcelona, will one day return to the club as a coach or a member of the staff or maybe some sort of mentor who knows what he is about. Personally, I think that Messi-Barcelona's love story isn't done yet and that it will continue for a long time.

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September 26, 2022, 05:21:19 PM
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The return of Messi is not going to be that beneficial for both parties in my opinion. It's something like people say to never meet your heroes, and we can also say that the Messi era has ended and it's time for Barcelona to build their squad without having him in mind.
The return, if happens, will be similar to the return of Ronaldo to Manchester United. They are both very old players and one season can change their body and performance a lot. You can verify it with Ibrahimovic and Ronaldo. Their performance suddenly falls a lot in two consecutive seasons. It's ageing effect that is unavoidable.

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When it comes to looking at Barcelona right now compared to a year ago, we can see that they have improved their football under Xavi and are doing a pretty good job right now. It may not be a good idea right now to bring Messi in and put him under pressure, as well as adjust the club's wage budget in order to accommodate him.
Messi is old and getting older. His career is at very ending and Barcelona is building their team with young players. So why do they need Messi to come back? Are they ready to pay Messi high salary again? Do they think the appearance (return) of Messi won't cause any trouble in dress room?
And that is likely to happen if we look at what Xavi said during the transfer window last summer where he was very interested in bringing Messi back to Camp Nou when his contract at PSG ended. so there is no big problem if the quality of Messi game declines due to aging but his presence could have a big impact on barcelona. Barcelona last season got Dani Alves even though it was only on a 1 season contract, but the return of senior players seemed to be their tradition recently.

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September 26, 2022, 05:25:57 PM
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And that is likely to happen if we look at what Xavi said during the transfer window last summer where he was very interested in bringing Messi back to Camp Nou when his contract at PSG ended. so there is no big problem if the quality of Messi game declines due to aging but his presence could have a big impact on barcelona. Barcelona last season got Dani Alves even though it was only on a 1 season contract, but the return of senior players seemed to be their tradition recently.

I don't see any possibility that Messi will play in Barcelona. First of all, Messi is older now, he can't perform very well like the past seasons with the Barcelona squad now. Second, Messi's wages are very high. Barcelona is currently in a financial crisis and it is believed that they will be forced to reduce the wages of their players next season as well. So it is impossible for Barcelona to pay Messi high wages at the moment. If Messi is willing to play at Barcelona without any wages then we will probably see Messi at Barcelona.

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September 26, 2022, 05:32:47 PM
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And that is likely to happen if we look at what Xavi said during the transfer window last summer where he was very interested in bringing Messi back to Camp Nou when his contract at PSG ended. so there is no big problem if the quality of Messi game declines due to aging but his presence could have a big impact on barcelona. Barcelona last season got Dani Alves even though it was only on a 1 season contract, but the return of senior players seemed to be their tradition recently.
It made sense if Barcelona tried to do it right after Messi left the team, and now it doesn't make sense for either Barcelona or Messi. Messi is still a great striker, but it seems that he has finally adapted to PSG and I doubt that anyone can offer him better conditions now than he gets in Paris. For Barcelona with its debts, this will be an unbearable burden, and it is not clear why this is necessary, just to show that they were able to return Messi?

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September 26, 2022, 05:40:57 PM
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The return of Messi is not going to be that beneficial for both parties in my opinion. It's something like people say to never meet your heroes, and we can also say that the Messi era has ended and it's time for Barcelona to build their squad without having him in mind.
The return, if happens, will be similar to the return of Ronaldo to Manchester United. They are both very old players and one season can change their body and performance a lot. You can verify it with Ibrahimovic and Ronaldo. Their performance suddenly falls a lot in two consecutive seasons. It's ageing effect that is unavoidable.

In general I agree with you, but I did not notice that Ronaldo's efficiency dropped last season - for the Premier League he showed an excellent result even playing at Manchester United. This season he has problems, but everyone knows what caused them - the uncertainty at the beginning of the season and the disruption of the preparatory period when he did not train with Manchester United. It is likely that he will recover.
And I agree that Messi's return to Barcelona would not make sporting sense, but perhaps it would make PR/commercial sense? In the end, he is a symbol of the club and may well play (even if only as a substitute) for at least one more season.
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September 26, 2022, 06:01:13 PM
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There is already a lot of uncertainty surrounding the defense of Barcelona. In addition, all these injuries are not going to help at all in any way. Barca is going to face a lot of problems in the defense with Koundé and Ara'jo out with injuries.

In my opinion, Pique can no longer be trusted with the defense anymore, he is very old and he does not have the pace required to play at a high level. From the beginning of this season, the defense of the team was already weak. In the area of attacking and midfield, I believe Barcelona have an excellent backup plan. It seems to me that they are going to have some real problems in the defensive lineup as a result of all these injuries.
It's difficult for Barcelona at the moment but when it comes to Pique, despite his age and the chaos he is in with the club's top brass, he can still be played because if I'm not mistaken he has also played several times like when he faced Plzen in the Champions League.
Actually this could also be an opportunity for Balde to increase his flying hours but I don't know if Xavi will entrust this young player to a temporary replacement or not.

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September 26, 2022, 06:02:20 PM
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It looks like matchday 7 will be the end for Osasuna to be in the top five in the standings, because Osasuna will play away against Real Madrid which of course Real Madrid will win. Therefore, teams under Osasuna like Villarreal who will certainly win against Cadiz will make Villarreal replace Osasuna. In fact, if the three teams below Villarreal get a win as well, then of course Osasuna will soon be in ninth place. But if the scenario is that the four teams win all but clearly anyway, Osasuna is still not strong enough to maintain its position in fifth place.
Now from Match day 7 things going to be change with most chances top four teams will be on their spot but after them, we will have few changes because Villarreal, Atlético Madrid and Real Sociedad is going to change things for better place and Sevilla which is down in league table also looking for better performance after their first win in this season and having good draw against Villarreal in away game.

At Top Real Madrid will be stayed for some more time with if we will have any change then which is possible just after result of El Classico which is going to be played on 16th October otherwise right now no team having enough quality to challenge these two giants which are playing with their full strength squads for staying at top.

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September 26, 2022, 06:14:31 PM
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From the start of this season it has become a gamble for Barcelona because indeed they are in the middle of a crisis but still dare to change players and bring in lots of players to fill the void as Xavi wants.
Barcelona performed well in several games. In LaLiga, the Barcelona team finished second with five wins and one draw. Barcelona has a reliable striker for now, namely Robert Lewandowski and is the top scorer for the time being in LaLiga. But Barcelona could not change the new atmosphere in the Champions League against Bayern Munich. We will also see how Barcelona's condition during the El Clasico duel.
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the return of Messi in the Barcelona squad does not guarantee Barcelona can win the La Liga title and the Champions League at the same time. Messi can help improve the quality of Barcelona game, his quality as a reliable goalscorer cannot be doubted, he can also spoil Barcelona attackers with perfect passes.
Speaking of titles, Messi has won so many titles with Barcelona, but there is no guarantee that Barcelona can immediately get a title if Messi is back in the Barcelona squad.
I agree with you.  There is no doubt that Messi is a great player. But it cannot be guaranteed that Barcelona will actually win the title at Barcelona. Continuity of performance is definitely needed to win the title and I would say a bit of luck too.
However, Barcelona's current squad is very strong. If they can maintain consistency they can win the title. Defenders, midfielders and forwards are all performing well now. Now they need a strong match strategy. I see Barcelona as the favourites for the Champions League and La Liga titles this season.
Now Messi era is past and time is not going to work with them if someone feeling Messi's arrival is going to have big impact on quality it's just dream even I am feeling Messi is going to be had big impact on Barcelona but not in quality and having to win trophies because he is old and can't do things single-handedly with current new set up they need to have place for him which is not easy because they already have many quality players so with these finances is also the biggest issue for them and time is running out quickly.

If they want to sorted out things in positive way then surely they need to work hard and having results like Real Madrid which they achieved in last season mean double in this season can give them good booster but in current situation it's not looking easy.

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September 26, 2022, 06:33:50 PM
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There is already a lot of uncertainty surrounding the defense of Barcelona. In addition, all these injuries are not going to help at all in any way. Barca is going to face a lot of problems in the defense with Koundé and Ara'jo out with injuries.

In my opinion, Pique can no longer be trusted with the defense anymore, he is very old and he does not have the pace required to play at a high level. From the beginning of this season, the defense of the team was already weak. In the area of attacking and midfield, I believe Barcelona have an excellent backup plan. It seems to me that they are going to have some real problems in the defensive lineup as a result of all these injuries.
It's difficult for Barcelona at the moment but when it comes to Pique, despite his age and the chaos he is in with the club's top brass, he can still be played because if I'm not mistaken he has also played several times like when he faced Plzen in the Champions League.
Actually this could also be an opportunity for Balde to increase his flying hours but I don't know if Xavi will entrust this young player to a temporary replacement or not.
Where is christensen? Did you forget about that?

Despite for now christensen have not got his place yet in the starting line up , i think xavi will keeping the rotation on especially if he look at christensen playing history with chelsea , he won't hesitate to choose him over the other players. Poor barcelona in the defending area.

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September 26, 2022, 06:48:33 PM
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the return of Messi in the Barcelona squad does not guarantee Barcelona can win the La Liga title and the Champions League at the same time. Messi can help improve the quality of Barcelona game, his quality as a reliable goalscorer cannot be doubted, he can also spoil Barcelona attackers with perfect passes.
Speaking of titles, Messi has won so many titles with Barcelona, but there is no guarantee that Barcelona can immediately get a title if Messi is back in the Barcelona squad.
I agree with you.  There is no doubt that Messi is a great player. But it cannot be guaranteed that Barcelona will actually win the title at Barcelona. Continuity of performance is definitely needed to win the title and I would say a bit of luck too.
However, Barcelona's current squad is very strong. If they can maintain consistency they can win the title. Defenders, midfielders and forwards are all performing well now. Now they need a strong match strategy. I see Barcelona as the favourites for the Champions League and La Liga titles this season.
Now Messi era is past and time is not going to work with them if someone feeling Messi's arrival is going to have big impact on quality it's just dream even I am feeling Messi is going to be had big impact on Barcelona but not in quality and having to win trophies because he is old and can't do things single-handedly with current new set up they need to have place for him which is not easy because they already have many quality players so with these finances is also the biggest issue for them and time is running out quickly.

If they want to sorted out things in positive way then surely they need to work hard and having results like Real Madrid which they achieved in last season mean double in this season can give them good booster but in current situation it's not looking easy.

You are right, it doesn't seem that Messi fits in Barcelona's starting eleven right now. It would require a deep reorganisation of the team, and it wouldn't be cheap neither. Although I would personally like to see him wearing blue and red again, I don't think this is the best strategy for the team right now.

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September 26, 2022, 06:58:21 PM
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There is already a lot of uncertainty surrounding the defense of Barcelona. In addition, all these injuries are not going to help at all in any way. Barca is going to face a lot of problems in the defense with Koundé and Ara'jo out with injuries.

In my opinion, Pique can no longer be trusted with the defense anymore, he is very old and he does not have the pace required to play at a high level. From the beginning of this season, the defense of the team was already weak. In the area of attacking and midfield, I believe Barcelona have an excellent backup plan. It seems to me that they are going to have some real problems in the defensive lineup as a result of all these injuries.
It's difficult for Barcelona at the moment but when it comes to Pique, despite his age and the chaos he is in with the club's top brass, he can still be played because if I'm not mistaken he has also played several times like when he faced Plzen in the Champions League.
Actually this could also be an opportunity for Balde to increase his flying hours but I don't know if Xavi will entrust this young player to a temporary replacement or not.
Where is christensen? Did you forget about that?

Despite for now christensen have not got his place yet in the starting line up , i think xavi will keeping the rotation on especially if he look at christensen playing history with chelsea , he won't hesitate to choose him over the other players. Poor barcelona in the defending area.
Andreas Christensen he a man in a defend position is also the best option for Barcelona at the moment, I think Xavi will play him for sure when another defender gets injured. Regarding Pique although he has problems, but I am sure he will play professionally, he is aware that Barcelona fought really hard when Xavi was in lead.

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September 26, 2022, 08:04:10 PM
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Barcelona performed well in several games. In LaLiga, the Barcelona team finished second with five wins and one draw. Barcelona has a reliable striker for now, namely Robert Lewandowski and is the top scorer for the time being in LaLiga. But Barcelona could not change the new atmosphere in the Champions League against Bayern Munich. We will also see how Barcelona's condition during the El Clasico duel.
Barcelona are doing well so far and you can expect them to do well in El Clasico. In the Champions League Barcelona can also be expected to play well even though so far they have lost 3 points to Bayern Munich, but I am sure in the second meeting Barcelona will turn things around considering the match will be played at home.

Many people know that Xavi has been quite successful in improving Barcelona's performance since last season, but he has not proven that his Barcelona coach is capable of winning titles at the end of the season. I'm not entirely sure Barcelona can reach the semi-finals of the Champions League this season, but I think they have hope of leading the table if Real Madrid slip up in Laliga.

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September 26, 2022, 08:37:36 PM
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the return of Messi in the Barcelona squad does not guarantee Barcelona can win the La Liga title and the Champions League at the same time. Messi can help improve the quality of Barcelona game, his quality as a reliable goalscorer cannot be doubted, he can also spoil Barcelona attackers with perfect passes.
Speaking of titles, Messi has won so many titles with Barcelona, but there is no guarantee that Barcelona can immediately get a title if Messi is back in the Barcelona squad.
I agree with you.  There is no doubt that Messi is a great player. But it cannot be guaranteed that Barcelona will actually win the title at Barcelona. Continuity of performance is definitely needed to win the title and I would say a bit of luck too.
However, Barcelona's current squad is very strong. If they can maintain consistency they can win the title. Defenders, midfielders and forwards are all performing well now. Now they need a strong match strategy. I see Barcelona as the favourites for the Champions League and La Liga titles this season.
Now Messi era is past and time is not going to work with them if someone feeling Messi's arrival is going to have big impact on quality it's just dream even I am feeling Messi is going to be had big impact on Barcelona but not in quality and having to win trophies because he is old and can't do things single-handedly with current new set up they need to have place for him which is not easy because they already have many quality players so with these finances is also the biggest issue for them and time is running out quickly.

If they want to sorted out things in positive way then surely they need to work hard and having results like Real Madrid which they achieved in last season mean double in this season can give them good booster but in current situation it's not looking easy.

You are right, it doesn't seem that Messi fits in Barcelona's starting eleven right now. It would require a deep reorganisation of the team, and it wouldn't be cheap neither. Although I would personally like to see him wearing blue and red again, I don't think this is the best strategy for the team right now.
In my opinion, Messi is the player that can play with any team, his style of play is so special that he can provide killer passes and position himself to get a pass and shoot without forgetting how good he still is at shooting, he also plays good in midfield so it can never be bad to have Messi on your side, he always was a team player and still is.

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