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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.6%)
Real Madrid - 79 (66.9%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
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September 28, 2022, 03:16:23 PM
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Of course PSG will not let Messi go just like that, PSG will do whatever it takes to make Messi stay in Paris. But the final decision lies with Messi, he could return to Barcelona when his contract with PSG has expired.
Messi, who is one of Barcelona living legends, still loves the club that has made his name, especially now that Barcelona is being controlled by one of his closest friends. Xavi has asked Messi to help him rebuild Barcelona's strength, this request is very difficult to refuse because Messi and Xavi relationship is like family.
Well, I hope it happens to Barcelona if Messi decision is right. After all Messi is the heart of Barcelona that cannot be snatched away when he is done with PSG. Preparations against Mallorca also seem to be being prepared by Xavi. Given some vacant positions, he had to keep them more closely.

Followed by a very strong Inter, I expect Barcelona's game to be stronger. At least when Inter is against Bayern Munich the results obtained are the same as Barcelona. So for that, we can still see the possibility of dominating.
I can say for sure, the game between Barcelona and Inter Milan will be very competitive. But I put Barca ahead of Inter. We will enjoy a great match between the two teams. I expect Barcelona to get a nice win. Good luck to Inter Milan

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September 28, 2022, 03:23:57 PM
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Of course PSG will not let Messi go just like that, PSG will do whatever it takes to make Messi stay in Paris. But the final decision lies with Messi, he could return to Barcelona when his contract with PSG has expired.
Messi, who is one of Barcelona living legends, still loves the club that has made his name, especially now that Barcelona is being controlled by one of his closest friends. Xavi has asked Messi to help him rebuild Barcelona's strength, this request is very difficult to refuse because Messi and Xavi relationship is like family.
Well, I hope it happens to Barcelona if Messi decision is right. After all Messi is the heart of Barcelona that cannot be snatched away when he is done with PSG. Preparations against Mallorca also seem to be being prepared by Xavi. Given some vacant positions, he had to keep them more closely.

Followed by a very strong Inter, I expect Barcelona's game to be stronger. At least when Inter is against Bayern Munich the results obtained are the same as Barcelona. So for that, we can still see the possibility of dominating.
Mallorca was performing so well. I think that barcelona may not be so difficult to win against mallorca but i will not underestimate that team. That team is still worth to be considered as a tough opponent for the barcelona in the upcoming match.
Domination in the ball possession was good but if barcelona will get bad result against mallorca and this will be disappointed to the club

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September 28, 2022, 03:28:41 PM
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In fact, we can understand what Xavi is like as a coach by seeing Barca's progress. As he is a former legend of Barca, he wants Barca to play like before. And he also knows how important Messi is to Barca. That's why he might want to bring Messi back to Barca next season. Whether Messi will come to Barca now is a personal matter for him. Hopefully we will see Messi again at Barca.
We don't deny that what Xavi is doing in barcelona right now is extraordinary, he managed to re-develop and raise the level of barcelona that had previously fallen, the closeness of messi and barcelona I think is still well maintained and maybe it will be easy for Xavi to convince Messi to return to Barcelona because after all Barcelona is the home of messi, besides Messi bad relationship with Mbappe can certainly be a trigger Messi  to leave next season, especially Messi is currently reluctant to extend his contract which only has one year left.

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September 28, 2022, 03:35:55 PM
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In fact, we can understand what Xavi is like as a coach by seeing Barca's progress. As he is a former legend of Barca, he wants Barca to play like before. And he also knows how important Messi is to Barca. That's why he might want to bring Messi back to Barca next season. Whether Messi will come to Barca now is a personal matter for him. Hopefully we will see Messi again at Barca.
The problem is whether Barcelona can afford his salary. Xavi looks forcing it, it is against the decision of Barcelona management. Remember when Messi left he even cried but Barcelona didn't understand that. I don't know, but the salary issue is an agreed obligation. Talking about loyalty nowadays it seems money is the most important thing. I don't know if Messi still wants to or maybe he's already hurt.

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September 28, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
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Mallorca was performing so well. I think that barcelona may not be so difficult to win against mallorca but i will not underestimate that team. That team is still worth to be considered as a tough opponent for the barcelona in the upcoming match.
Domination in the ball possession was good but if barcelona will get bad result against mallorca and this will be disappointed to the club
If only Barcelona got into trouble from Mallorca in the match later, then it is likely that in the Champions League it will be much more difficult to get a lot of points. Mallorca may not have shown too many threatening moves so far, but Xavi also needs to realize that even lowly clubs can be dangerous when they are motivated by Barcelona's slump. For that, Xavi as much as possible not to let Mallorca create opportunities to score goals.

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September 28, 2022, 03:43:03 PM
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The first El Classico in this season will reveal how Real Madrid and Barcelona will compete for La Liga trophy and what team are possibly stronger between the twos. Real Madrid likely are stronger but Barcelona can bring more challenge to them in this season with Lewandowski.
They are in positions one and two. The league cannot be determined from just one or two games but this exciting match we must not miss. Their points difference is only two points, maybe this determines who will be at the top. If madrid win maybe their points difference is even bigger which is five points. That's an advantage for Madrid. I always see that if these two teams compete Madrid always lose in possession of the ball. But I heard after the intermission, Barcelona will lose De Jong, Arauojo and Kounde. They have returned to Camp Nou prematurely. Of course this will benefit Madrid.
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September 28, 2022, 04:34:38 PM
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The possible thing is he may come back to the barcelona but with different status. he may come back to the barcelona as a coach rather than player pretty much the same like what xavi did. Xavi was coming back to the barcelona as a new coach for barcelona rather than become a player again. So many speculators have been saying this thing many times. Im not even thinking messi will back to the barcelona as a player.
His old will become too older to compete in the la liga. I think that would be a good thing to see him as a new coach for bacelona.

Maybe you will turn out to be right about it.

As I said before, Xavi has built a completely new system for the team. There is no such thing as building the game over one player anymore. Because they don't even have any player like Messi now so there is no meaning in keeping that style. Xavi wouldn't change his system just because Messi came. Maybe he would adapt to the system if he returns as a player. But maybe things will be as you said and we will see him working with the team as a coach. Seeing Xavi and Messi together is enough for me to get more excited about this team.

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September 28, 2022, 04:42:15 PM
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They are in positions one and two. The league cannot be determined from just one or two games but this exciting match we must not miss. Their points difference is only two points, maybe this determines who will be at the top. If madrid win maybe their points difference is even bigger which is five points. That's an advantage for Madrid. I always see that if these two teams compete Madrid always lose in possession of the ball. But I heard after the intermission, Barcelona will lose De Jong, Arauojo and Kounde. They have returned to Camp Nou prematurely. Of course this will benefit Madrid.
The 3 players you mentioned are the main players that Xavi plays very often as a top 11. If all three are injured then I don't think Barcelona's defense will be very good to defend against Real Madrid attacks, but since El Clasico is played in the middle of next month there is hope to wait good news from them.

Arauojo has been a doorstop in the barcelona defence, he is a very good player with his physical strength and skill. I believe the injury will be manageable, but as it sounds severe enough to require surgery then the certainty of his return to the team will be very doubtful. Obviously this is a huge loss for Barcelona considering that Kounde, Depay and De Jong were also reported to have been injured during the International break.

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September 28, 2022, 04:59:04 PM
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I think Atletico Madrid won't lose this but it might end in a draw rather than their getting a win.
I don't see Atletico Madrid playing a draw in this game because they are a better team than Sevilla this season; Atletico Madrid will want to resume their winning streak after losing two matches in a row, against Bayern Leverkusen in the UEFA Champions League and Real Madrid in their most recent Laliga match.
Atletico Madrid is currently seventh in the Laliga table with 10 points; they would like to gain three points to move into the top five.
I also think Sevilla are a weak opponent for Atletico Madrid, although they have lost their last matches, but their opponents have been much stronger. The Champions League is not part of La Liga, so these matches are at a completely different level and the training for them is not the same as for the home league. Especially since Atletico lost their last derby against Real Madrid with dignity. I'm sure Sevilla won't be able to win them.

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September 28, 2022, 05:22:09 PM
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Mallorca was performing so well. I think that barcelona may not be so difficult to win against mallorca but i will not underestimate that team. That team is still worth to be considered as a tough opponent for the barcelona in the upcoming match.
Domination in the ball possession was good but if barcelona will get bad result against mallorca and this will be disappointed to the club
If only Barcelona got into trouble from Mallorca in the match later, then it is likely that in the Champions League it will be much more difficult to get a lot of points. Mallorca may not have shown too many threatening moves so far, but Xavi also needs to realize that even lowly clubs can be dangerous when they are motivated by Barcelona's slump. For that, Xavi as much as possible not to let Mallorca create opportunities to score goals.
We can see how far they can play well without their main players in this match. I agree with what you said, Barcelona's game can be judged by this match before the next game which will put more pressure on them. They don't have much time to prepare who will be starting in the lineup. Xavi should already know who those players are, because most of the players he has retained this season have been his picks.

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September 28, 2022, 05:49:54 PM
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I think Atletico Madrid won't lose this but it might end in a draw rather than their getting a win.
I don't see Atletico Madrid playing a draw in this game because they are a better team than Sevilla this season; Atletico Madrid will want to resume their winning streak after losing two matches in a row, against Bayern Leverkusen in the UEFA Champions League and Real Madrid in their most recent Laliga match.
Atletico Madrid is currently seventh in the Laliga table with 10 points; they would like to gain three points to move into the top five.
I also think Sevilla are a weak opponent for Atletico Madrid, although they have lost their last matches, but their opponents have been much stronger. The Champions League is not part of La Liga, so these matches are at a completely different level and the training for them is not the same as for the home league. Especially since Atletico lost their last derby against Real Madrid with dignity. I'm sure Sevilla won't be able to win them.

Both Sevilla and Atletico Madrid's performances have been unstable and erratic this season. They are not playing well. Sevilla has won just one match this season. And lost in 3 matches. However, Sevilla has won their last two home matches against Atletico Madrid. So if the players are confident then they can perform well. However, Sevilla has weaknesses in both attack and defense. It is very difficult to win against Atletico Madrid in such conditions. But the match is more likely to be a draw.

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September 28, 2022, 06:01:21 PM
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I wonder what indicators you used to determine the extent of Messi's influence on PSG's game? In fact he doesn't show anything above average - PSG dominate Ligue 1 and any attacking player in midfield will have a good goal/assist statistic. Even if you compare him directly with Lewandowski, I would say that Lewandowski shows a much better productivity in Barcelona (although again you have to wait for games against strong teams).

Messi is not the main striker in PSG now. So it is foolish to think that he will score a lot of goals. Galtier changed Messi's position. Now I think Messi's main responsibility is to strengthen the bonding between the midfield and forward players. Messi can now be considered a playmaker. And Messi has been able to adapt to the new position quite well. And I think we will see better performances from Messi in the future.

It is foolish to object to the fact that no one wrote. No one suggested comparing the goals of Lewandowski and Messi. The fact is that even if we are talking about Lewandowski and some goalkeeper, we can compare their contribution to the common cause. And the fact is that PSG are so strong in Ligue 1 that in Mbappe's place there could be a bunch of other strikers and have the same statistics as Mbappe, and this applies to Messi too. He does not show anything surprising in the center of the field in the position of the playmaker/under the strikers, the usual average game.

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September 28, 2022, 06:07:14 PM
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Of course PSG will not let Messi go just like that, PSG will do whatever it takes to make Messi stay in Paris. But the final decision lies with Messi, he could return to Barcelona when his contract with PSG has expired.
Messi, who is one of Barcelona living legends, still loves the club that has made his name, especially now that Barcelona is being controlled by one of his closest friends. Xavi has asked Messi to help him rebuild Barcelona's strength, this request is very difficult to refuse because Messi and Xavi relationship is like family.
Well, I hope it happens to Barcelona if Messi decision is right. After all Messi is the heart of Barcelona that cannot be snatched away when he is done with PSG. Preparations against Mallorca also seem to be being prepared by Xavi. Given some vacant positions, he had to keep them more closely.

Followed by a very strong Inter, I expect Barcelona's game to be stronger. At least when Inter is against Bayern Munich the results obtained are the same as Barcelona. So for that, we can still see the possibility of dominating.
I think Barcelona will have to work hard to win against Inter. Their match will be quite enjoyable. The match will be very important for Barcelona. They will want to win at any cost. But there is no chance to think of Inter as a weak opponent. They will want at least a draw. Waiting to see the game.

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September 28, 2022, 06:07:31 PM
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Messi will never return to Barca as a player or as someone in the board! He will be club history and the most respected player from Barca but Messi has nothing to do with coaching or having any skills towards management so yea ...he is good with the ball and that's it. ERA of Messi in Barcelona has ended 2 years ago.
Yes, it can't be either. He left because Barcelona wanted to cut his salary because Barcelona was experiencing financial difficulties. Indeed Messi may feel unhappy, and it can make him unwilling to return to Barcelona. But so far I have not found an official leveling from Messi. So maybe there's a chance of a comeback or not it's a mystery. If he's going to retire we don't know. At the moment he looks comfortable at PSG he has also found the best game. I think Xavi also doesn't need Messi's figure anymore at the moment.

The fact that Lionel Messi is not going to return to Barcelona in any form at all makes me so sad, but it is true that he is not going to return in any way. It is obvious that he was one of the best things to happen to Barcelona in its history. However, every good thing has to come to an end at some point. Lionel Messi is a player everyone wishes he would stay at Barcelona for a long period of time and he should end his career in Barcelona as a 'one club player'. It wasn't meant to be that way, as Barcelona has some rubbish management at the helm.

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September 28, 2022, 06:09:36 PM
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I do agree with this. This time barcelona can do something without him. that proves that if era for the club actually rely with him already over. IF he was coming back to the barcelona as a new player and that would be fine but the problem is once he was coming back to the club while the club is still struggling with its financial. The come of mess will become a disaster for the club.  He will be very suitable to be a new coach for barcelona in the future.
Im seeing it as a potential future career for messi

Yes, but back to Xavi, if he expects Messi, of course he thinks it's the best for him, maybe he will sign Messi next season. Regarding being a coach, I still can't predict what he will be like. Indeed, as a player he is extraordinary, but it will be different when he becomes a coach. We have to see at least one season to judge the quality of messi as a coach. So I can't rate anything for now.
He is very good as a player, but there is no guarantee that he will be good as a coach. That's something different in my opinion, because as a coach you need broad thinking, mentality, strategy and much more. I'm not disbelieving that Messi can do that, but so far I haven't seen any signs of it.



I can say for sure, the game between Barcelona and Inter Milan will be very competitive. But I put Barca ahead of Inter. We will enjoy a great match between the two teams. I expect Barcelona to get a nice win. Good luck to Inter Milan
Do not forget that Barcelona will not be strengthened by some of its flagship players. This is a consideration for me to say how the strategy of Barcelona when losing key players. Because I haven't seen them do that so far, if they succeed it will be even better so it's safe to say that Xavi was prepared for the worst. The rotation will be done here, but I don't have an idea who Xavi will choose to fill the vacancy in the line up.

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September 28, 2022, 06:28:06 PM
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I think Atletico Madrid won't lose this but it might end in a draw rather than their getting a win.
I don't see Atletico Madrid playing a draw in this game because they are a better team than Sevilla this season; Atletico Madrid will want to resume their winning streak after losing two matches in a row, against Bayern Leverkusen in the UEFA Champions League and Real Madrid in their most recent Laliga match.
Atletico Madrid is currently seventh in the Laliga table with 10 points; they would like to gain three points to move into the top five.
I also think Sevilla are a weak opponent for Atletico Madrid, although they have lost their last matches, but their opponents have been much stronger. The Champions League is not part of La Liga, so these matches are at a completely different level and the training for them is not the same as for the home league. Especially since Atletico lost their last derby against Real Madrid with dignity. I'm sure Sevilla won't be able to win them.

Both Sevilla and Atletico Madrid's performances have been unstable and erratic this season. They are not playing well. Sevilla has won just one match this season. And lost in 3 matches. However, Sevilla has won their last two home matches against Atletico Madrid. So if the players are confident then they can perform well. However, Sevilla has weaknesses in both attack and defense. It is very difficult to win against Atletico Madrid in such conditions. But the match is more likely to be a draw.
If Atletico win against Sevilla, they will have a great opportunity to stay at the top-5 of the standings, and the match against Brugge on October 4 should not be a serious problem for Atletico. Although I agree that it could be a draw against Sevilla, because statistically they have a lot of draws. The last time Atletico won away against Sevilla was 4 years ago. I was probably too confident that Atletico would win, but I still think they will. Cheesy

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September 28, 2022, 06:58:46 PM
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I think Atletico Madrid won't lose this but it might end in a draw rather than their getting a win.
I don't see Atletico Madrid playing a draw in this game because they are a better team than Sevilla this season; Atletico Madrid will want to resume their winning streak after losing two matches in a row, against Bayern Leverkusen in the UEFA Champions League and Real Madrid in their most recent Laliga match.
Atletico Madrid is currently seventh in the Laliga table with 10 points; they would like to gain three points to move into the top five.
I also think Sevilla are a weak opponent for Atletico Madrid, although they have lost their last matches, but their opponents have been much stronger. The Champions League is not part of La Liga, so these matches are at a completely different level and the training for them is not the same as for the home league. Especially since Atletico lost their last derby against Real Madrid with dignity. I'm sure Sevilla won't be able to win them.

Both Sevilla and Atletico Madrid's performances have been unstable and erratic this season. They are not playing well. Sevilla has won just one match this season. And lost in 3 matches. However, Sevilla has won their last two home matches against Atletico Madrid. So if the players are confident then they can perform well. However, Sevilla has weaknesses in both attack and defense. It is very difficult to win against Atletico Madrid in such conditions. But the match is more likely to be a draw.
If Atletico win against Sevilla, they will have a great opportunity to stay at the top-5 of the standings, and the match against Brugge on October 4 should not be a serious problem for Atletico. Although I agree that it could be a draw against Sevilla, because statistically they have a lot of draws. The last time Atletico won away against Sevilla was 4 years ago. I was probably too confident that Atletico would win, but I still think they will. Cheesy

We shouldn't underestimate Sevilla FC: I agree that both teams have been a bit erratic so far in their last games (more Sevilla than Atlético) and the fact that the latter is in the 15th place of the ranking doesn't mean they can't surprise us all and win the match. It is a better team than many others above them right now (Rayo, Girona, Mallorca), but it seems that they are just taking their time to wake up this season.

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September 28, 2022, 07:41:52 PM
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It seems unrealistic to me to see Messi in Barcelona again. I wouldn't say that Messi is a bad player. But he is old enough now. Barcelona needs a regular scorer now. It will be difficult for Messi to maintain his fitness now. Moreover, Messi's wages are still very high. Barcelona management is not able to pay so much wages. Xavi is probably expressing interest in Messi joining Barcelona to please Barca and Messi fans. But I don't think Xavi will take such a decision.
If it's a fitness issue I think Messi is still worth considering, but to return to Barcelona is still a difficult thing for us to see after his contract is over. I think even if Messi plays again at Barcelona he will still be productive regardless of his age and fitness form. Because if we compare Messi with his eternal rival (Ronaldo) now Messi has shown that he can surpass him.

Apart from that case, I also see that now Barcelona is losing a lot of players, possibly quite dangerous both in terms of their position in La Liga and their biggest challenge in the Champions League. 4 players who required Xavi to think even harder in order to adjust the void.
I am guessing it would be mainly about money. Barcelona is in a financial trouble and paying close to 60 million euros to Messi at this stage wouldn't help them. PSG is paying around that much if I am not wrong, and that means Barcelona would have to pay at least that much as well.

When Messi is much older, like closer to 40, that could be the time they could get Messi for very cheap because it would be understandable, and he would play just a season to retire there, but that would be useless for them. They should focus on all the players they got, and not the player they could get, Messi is gone, it was a sad farewell and let him be like that, retire wherever he wants.
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If Atletico win against Sevilla, they will have a great opportunity to stay at the top-5 of the standings, and the match against Brugge on October 4 should not be a serious problem for Atletico. Although I agree that it could be a draw against Sevilla, because statistically they have a lot of draws. The last time Atletico won away against Sevilla was 4 years ago. I was probably too confident that Atletico would win, but I still think they will. Cheesy
it looks like to take 5th place this week will be a little difficult for Atletico Madrid because the teams in their ranking will face weak teams like Villarreal will face Cadiz and Osasuna will face Real Madrid so if Villareal wins then it is a chance for Atletico Madrid to take 5th place  quite small even though they won the match against sevilla. Sevilla also cannot be underestimated because they are trying hard to stay away from the degradation zone. Meanwhile, Villarreal is sure to be easy enough to get 3 points in the match against Cadiz because Cadiz performance so far has been very inconsistent.

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September 28, 2022, 08:14:05 PM
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Both Sevilla and Atletico Madrid's performances have been unstable and erratic this season. They are not playing well. Sevilla has won just one match this season. And lost in 3 matches. However, Sevilla has won their last two home matches against Atletico Madrid. So if the players are confident then they can perform well. However, Sevilla has weaknesses in both attack and defense. It is very difficult to win against Atletico Madrid in such conditions. But the match is more likely to be a draw.
Sevilla's performance at the start of this season was very poor with 1 win from 6 matches and is currently in 15th place, although Atletico Madrid have not been convincing this season, Atletico's statistics are better than Sevilla. Until matchday 6, Atletico Madrid won 3 of 6 games, 1 draw and 2 loss I think this time Atletico Madrid seems favorite to win. Unbelievable with Sevilla's performance this season compared to last season's successful finish in 4th place at the end of the season.

Sevilla have weakness in both attack and defense because 6 games in La Liga just scoring 3 goals and conceded 7 goals, But on the one hand Sevilla also have to prepare the team for the Champions League mid-week if want existing and have chance pass to 16 round. Have bad performance not only in La Liga but also Sevilla still can't consistent in Champion League.

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