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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
Total Voters: 117

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May 30, 2022, 09:03:33 AM
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Before the Messi legend was born, Barcelona did not have a presence in the league. Real Madrid were dominating the league alone. Now, if Barcelona can't make up for Messi's absence, we will go back to the old days. I want to remind you. This year Real Madrid finished the league 13 points ahead of their closest rivals. They won a championship very easily.
I don't agree with saying that before Messi came Real Madrid dominated the league. Yes, it may be true that from year to year Real Madrid has always been a candidate in the list of champions, but it is not that easy for them to take it. Even the nickname El Clasico was born long before we knew Messina, it shows that Barcelona has always been a scary team.
In terms of collecting La Liga trophies, Real Madrid is superior to Barcelona. As long as Messi is still active as a Barcelona player, Real Madrid's dominance has slightly decreased in the race for the La Liga title. But Barcelona is not only about Messi, there are many other players who are Barcelona's mainstay. As long as it was strengthened by Messi, who was Barcelona's golden era, the number of Barcelona Trophy acquisitions was more than Real Madrid. Since the last 10 years, Barcelona has won 5 La Liga trophies, while Real Madrid has only won 3 trophies, including the trophies won this season.

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May 30, 2022, 09:12:32 AM
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I don't agree with saying that before Messi came Real Madrid dominated the league. Yes, it may be true that from year to year Real Madrid has always been a candidate in the list of champions, but it is not that easy for them to take it. Even the nickname El Clasico was born long before we knew Messina, it shows that Barcelona has always been a scary team.
The nickname El Clasico is because of the meeting between Barcelona and Real Madrid and it has nothing to do with any player or anyone in the two teams so it is still mentioned today when there is a match for both of them in any league. So what Barcelona is doing at the moment is just trying to improve his form so that he can be on a strong path like it has seen in the past.
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May 30, 2022, 10:55:15 AM
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I don't agree with saying that before Messi came Real Madrid dominated the league. Yes, it may be true that from year to year Real Madrid has always been a candidate in the list of champions, but it is not that easy for them to take it. Even the nickname El Clasico was born long before we knew Messina, it shows that Barcelona has always been a scary team.
The nickname El Clasico is because of the meeting between Barcelona and Real Madrid and it has nothing to do with any player or anyone in the two teams so it is still mentioned today when there is a match for both of them in any league. So what Barcelona is doing at the moment is just trying to improve his form so that he can be on a strong path like it has seen in the past.
Yes El Clasico is a battle of two teams that has been going on for a very long time. But I want to talk a little bit about the players in it. We know that Real Madrid and Barcelona have been strengthened by two players who have become football icons in the last decade. Namely Messi in the stronghold of Barcelona and Ronaldo in the stronghold of Real Madrid. It becomes interesting because many are comparing the quality of these players. Messi is better than Ronaldo and vice versa, if these two meet we are not only interested in El Clasico but also in these two players.

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May 30, 2022, 12:34:32 PM
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Before the Messi legend was born, Barcelona did not have a presence in the league. Real Madrid were dominating the league alone. Now, if Barcelona can't make up for Messi's absence, we will go back to the old days. I want to remind you. This year Real Madrid finished the league 13 points ahead of their closest rivals. They won a championship very easily.
I don't agree with saying that before Messi came Real Madrid dominated the league. Yes, it may be true that from year to year Real Madrid has always been a candidate in the list of champions, but it is not that easy for them to take it. Even the nickname El Clasico was born long before we knew Messina, it shows that Barcelona has always been a scary team.
In terms of collecting La Liga trophies, Real Madrid is superior to Barcelona. As long as Messi is still active as a Barcelona player, Real Madrid's dominance has slightly decreased in the race for the La Liga title. But Barcelona is not only about Messi, there are many other players who are Barcelona's mainstay. As long as it was strengthened by Messi, who was Barcelona's golden era, the number of Barcelona Trophy acquisitions was more than Real Madrid. Since the last 10 years, Barcelona has won 5 La Liga trophies, while Real Madrid has only won 3 trophies, including the trophies won this season.

Barcelona's performance in the last 3 seasons is very weak. Barcelona's performance has deteriorated since Koeman became Barcelona's coach. Although Xavi has been able to stabilize the team, he has not yet been able to form a completely strong team. Barcelona need more experienced players in defense. At the same time now Barcelona needs experienced striker. If Lewandowski joins Barcelona, ​​I think Barcelona will be stronger. Next season, the title fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid will intensify.

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May 30, 2022, 12:46:54 PM
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Barcelona's performance in the last 3 seasons is very weak. Barcelona's performance has deteriorated since Koeman became Barcelona's coach. Although Xavi has been able to stabilize the team, he has not yet been able to form a completely strong team. Barcelona need more experienced players in defense. At the same time now Barcelona needs experienced striker. If Lewandowski joins Barcelona, ​​I think Barcelona will be stronger. Next season, the title fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid will intensify.
It's true, Xavi is just laying the foundations for Barcelona, his job is to create a team that is still very big and could be a very long journey. This is just the beginning for Xavi and must make at least a team filled with players who can be trusted. In the transfer market he has to take advantage of that to get back into the position they still need.

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May 30, 2022, 01:01:22 PM
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Barcelona have been looking for Messi a lot on the field this year. When big stars fall, they create big gaps. They couldn't make up for Messi's absence. If they don't create a big star, they will lose the league to Real Madrid again. Real Madrid have the advantage of dominating the league more than ever. They seize this opportunity well. The Spanish league will be similar to the German league.

I agree with you, because Messi absence has really affected Barcelona from the beginning of this tournament and till now, that is making Barcelona team look like small team to Real Madrid and other teams in this season. I think, Barcelona coach will like to train three strikers that can demonstrate like Messi in this season and next season that will help them to stand as a champion in this season. Real Madrid coach has done a lot to improve the team in this season because it was a surprised to the whole world for Real Madrid to defeated Liverpool 1-0 to embraced champion league title.

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Barcelona have been looking for Messi a lot on the field this year. When big stars fall, they create big gaps. They couldn't make up for Messi's absence. If they don't create a big star, they will lose the league to Real Madrid again. Real Madrid have the advantage of dominating the league more than ever. They seize this opportunity well. The Spanish league will be similar to the German league.

I agree with you, because Messi absence has really affected Barcelona from the beginning of this tournament and till now, that is making Barcelona team look like small team to Real Madrid and other teams in this season. I think, Barcelona coach will like to train three strikers that can demonstrate like Messi in this season and next season that will help them to stand as a champion in this season. Real Madrid coach has done a lot to improve the team in this season because it was a surprised to the whole world for Real Madrid to defeated Liverpool 1-0 to embraced champion league title.

I don't agree with you, Barcelona without messi is like a small team.
I think this is a mistake from coach Ronald Koeman, when Koeman took over as Barcelona coach, he made a lot of big mistakes like making Luiz Suarez and bringing in a new sticker and apparently failed to shine while at the same time Suarez was able to perform brilliantly with Atletico Madrid.

And everything improved after Xavi Hernandez came to replace Koeman slowly Barcelona appeared to improve, this I think is a pretty brilliant achievement from the middle of the standings to finally finish in the runner-up position with a makeshift squad.

I believe that with the addition of several new players in certain positions, I believe that Barcelona will be able to compete with Real Madrid, which has just won the 14th Champions League. Something that is impossible for anyone to solve.
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May 30, 2022, 04:14:33 PM
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Barcelona's performance in the last 3 seasons is very weak. Barcelona's performance has deteriorated since Koeman became Barcelona's coach. Although Xavi has been able to stabilize the team, he has not yet been able to form a completely strong team. Barcelona need more experienced players in defense. At the same time now Barcelona needs experienced striker. If Lewandowski joins Barcelona, ​​I think Barcelona will be stronger. Next season, the title fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid will intensify.

Barcelona first of all need to solve their financial problems, at the moment they cannot afford to buy strong players, they are mainly hoping to sign free agents. Despite the fact that Real Madrid could not sign Mbappe, other strengthening of the squad will be made, and given the fact that Real Madrid is doing well with the budget, there is no need to think about any serious competition next season. Real will win La Liga again by a large margin.

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May 30, 2022, 04:25:55 PM
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Real Madrid might not be this comfortable next season. This was a very comfortable season in the La Liga for them because none of the other big teams had a decent season. In fact Barcelona started to become almost the best team in the league thanks to Xavi but it wasn't still enough for them to keep up with Real Madrid as the gap was too big. However next season, Barcelona would definitely fight harder than this and Real Madrid would have a hard time reaching the title. I'm not sure about Atletico Madrid and Sevilla.
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Real Madrid are in top possible this season as they lift both Laliga title and were crowned their 14th Champions League trophy. The team have been in their best form this season. While, All the Champions League credits when to Madrid boss, Carlo Ancelloti. He is now in possession of 4 champions league trophy and he is the only manager in the world that have 4 champions league to his name. Perhaps Madrid President, Florentino Perez is also happy with the team achievement.



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The nickname El Clasico is because of the meeting between Barcelona and Real Madrid and it has nothing to do with any player or anyone in the two teams so it is still mentioned today when there is a match for both of them in any league. So what Barcelona is doing at the moment is just trying to improve his form so that he can be on a strong path like it has seen in the past.
The duel between Barcelona and Real Madrid is a classic where the rivalry between the two teams is not only about winning the game but also the rivalry between top players from both teams. I think you can read more information on the internet why the match between Barcelona and Real Madrid is called El Clasico so you are not talking about misinformation.

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May 30, 2022, 04:42:59 PM
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Real Madrid might not be this comfortable next season. This was a very comfortable season in the La Liga for them because none of the other big teams had a decent season. In fact Barcelona started to become almost the best team in the league thanks to Xavi but it wasn't still enough for them to keep up with Real Madrid as the gap was too big. However next season, Barcelona would definitely fight harder than this and Real Madrid would have a hard time reaching the title. I'm not sure about Atletico Madrid and Sevilla.
Next season is not only Barcelona, but we will also see other clubs that will bring many surprises. As we can see at this time, Barcelona has established itself as one of the most promising clubs for next season. If it is currently only in the second position, then it is possible that Barcelona next season will be perfect with the arrival of a new force that will break the Barcelona squad with Lewandowski.

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Barcelona have been looking for Messi a lot on the field this year. When big stars fall, they create big gaps. They couldn't make up for Messi's absence. If they don't create a big star, they will lose the league to Real Madrid again. Real Madrid have the advantage of dominating the league more than ever. They seize this opportunity well. The Spanish league will be similar to the German league.

I agree with you, because Messi absence has really affected Barcelona from the beginning of this tournament and till now, that is making Barcelona team look like small team to Real Madrid and other teams in this season. I think, Barcelona coach will like to train three strikers that can demonstrate like Messi in this season and next season that will help them to stand as a champion in this season. Real Madrid coach has done a lot to improve the team in this season because it was a surprised to the whole world for Real Madrid to defeated Liverpool 1-0 to embraced champion league title.

I don't agree with you, Barcelona without messi is like a small team.
I think this is a mistake from coach Ronald Koeman, when Koeman took over as Barcelona coach, he made a lot of big mistakes like making Luiz Suarez and bringing in a new sticker and apparently failed to shine while at the same time Suarez was able to perform brilliantly with Atletico Madrid.

And everything improved after Xavi Hernandez came to replace Koeman slowly Barcelona appeared to improve, this I think is a pretty brilliant achievement from the middle of the standings to finally finish in the runner-up position with a makeshift squad.

I believe that with the addition of several new players in certain positions, I believe that Barcelona will be able to compete with Real Madrid, which has just won the 14th Champions League. Something that is impossible for anyone to solve.

I agree with you, Koeman is the root cause of Barcelona's decline. There are various kinds of problems that hit the Catalan club with Koeman. There have been a lot of problems at Barcelona in the last three seasons. Not only at the management and financial level, but also in the dressing room. Unfortunately, Koeman did not immediately extinguish the small fire in the squad. Koeman did not budge with the problems at hand. From the start, he had developed a bad relationship with the senior players.  

One of them is kicking Luis Suarez. Koeman made things complicated for him. Koeman also had an ups and downs relationship with Laporta which made things worse and another mistake that Koeman made was abandoning Barcelona's typical philosophy of Tiki-taka. In addition to changes in tactics and playing style, Koeman is also not optimal in the transfer market. The players that Koeman bought also did not have an optimal contribution. Now Barcelona are excited again under Xavi's control, although this season there is no title, but Xavi succeeded in bringing Barca to finish as runners-up.

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Real Madrid might not be this comfortable next season. This was a very comfortable season in the La Liga for them because none of the other big teams had a decent season. In fact Barcelona started to become almost the best team in the league thanks to Xavi but it wasn't still enough for them to keep up with Real Madrid as the gap was too big. However next season, Barcelona would definitely fight harder than this and Real Madrid would have a hard time reaching the title. I'm not sure about Atletico Madrid and Sevilla.
Next season is not only Barcelona, but we will also see other clubs that will bring many surprises. As we can see at this time, Barcelona has established itself as one of the most promising clubs for next season. If it is currently only in the second position, then it is possible that Barcelona next season will be perfect with the arrival of a new force that will break the Barcelona squad with Lewandowski.

Everything indicates that Lewandowski will leave Bayern. In my opinion, La Liga is the most likely destination where he can be transferred. Barcelona need a very good striker, but it's hard to say if they will be able to meet Lewandowski's financial requirements. I think Real Madrid may be a more likely club.
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May 30, 2022, 05:13:31 PM
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Barcelona's performance in the last 3 seasons is very weak. Barcelona's performance has deteriorated since Koeman became Barcelona's coach. Although Xavi has been able to stabilize the team, he has not yet been able to form a completely strong team. Barcelona need more experienced players in defense. At the same time now Barcelona needs experienced striker. If Lewandowski joins Barcelona, ​​I think Barcelona will be stronger. Next season, the title fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid will intensify.

Barcelona first of all need to solve their financial problems, at the moment they cannot afford to buy strong players, they are mainly hoping to sign free agents. Despite the fact that Real Madrid could not sign Mbappe, other strengthening of the squad will be made, and given the fact that Real Madrid is doing well with the budget, there is no need to think about any serious competition next season. Real will win La Liga again by a large margin.
There will still be competition but it is indeed quite small right now.
I quite agree with what you said considering that currently Barcelona is still lacking and is still struggling financially. Their forest is currently still unresolved and indeed one way is to find players with the lowest possible cost and free transfer players are still the first target now.
Madrid's finances are currently very safe, especially with them winning in La Liga and UCL how much bonus they have now and of course this will make it easier for them for next season

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That's right, the two cannot be equated. La Liga is much more competitive with a very fierce competition compared to the Bundesliga which Bayern Munich has dominated for the last 10 seasons.
Losing Messi from Barcelona is a natural thing. I think, the team needs regeneration because Messi is getting old and the players also need other adventurers for his career. it won't matter much when Messi and Ronaldo leave La Liga, La Liga is still a fierce competition.
It's true what you said, if indeed La Liga is a little more competitive than the Bundesliga and Ligue 1, because there are several teams that do compete in the championship competition, unlike the case with one or two dominant teams such as the Bundesliga and Ligue 1, but I think lost Messi and Ronaldo actually lowered the prestige of La Liga, especially in matches like el classico , although we still see an El Classico duel but believe it or not, El Cllassico is no longer as hot as it was when there was still competition between Messi and Ronaldo.

The rivalry between Barcelona and Real Madrid in the El Clasico has been going on for a very long time. If you say that the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi has reduced the prestige of La Liga is something that is not right and you have forgotten the long history of Spanish football.  Long before they played, quite a number of world star players were involved in the most prestigious duel. Every player has their own era. El Clasico will always be awaited and new players will be born who will always heat up the rivalry of two great clubs in this world.

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May 30, 2022, 07:03:37 PM
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Real Madrid are in top possible this season as they lift both Laliga title and were crowned their 14th Champions League trophy. The team have been in their best form this season. While, All the Champions League credits when to Madrid boss, Carlo Ancelloti. He is now in possession of 4 champions league trophy and he is the only manager in the world that have 4 champions league to his name. Perhaps Madrid President, Florentino Perez is also happy with the team achievement.
Real Madrid is one of the best team when it comes to winning games. The Los Blancos are victorious this season as they went home with Laliga trophy and also their 14th time UEFEA trophy. Real Madrid will make new signings this summer as the team is well stable and their players will be extending their contracts while some will exit the club this summer. Madrid president, Florentino Perez will take decisive actions that will influence the team positively and bring them more trophies next season.

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Barcelona's performance in the last 3 seasons is very weak. Barcelona's performance has deteriorated since Koeman became Barcelona's coach. Although Xavi has been able to stabilize the team, he has not yet been able to form a completely strong team. Barcelona need more experienced players in defense. At the same time now Barcelona needs experienced striker. If Lewandowski joins Barcelona, ​​I think Barcelona will be stronger. Next season, the title fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid will intensify.
I agree with you. Barcelona had a terrible performance with poor results under the leadership of Koeman. The last time Barcelona won the La Liga title was in the 2018/2019 season. Xavi had a great impact on the team. However, as you stated, if they basically improve their squad with a good striker and also strengthen their defence. Barcelona will surely be capable of competing for the League title with their rival Madrid.



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That's right, the two cannot be equated. La Liga is much more competitive with a very fierce competition compared to the Bundesliga which Bayern Munich has dominated for the last 10 seasons.
Losing Messi from Barcelona is a natural thing. I think, the team needs regeneration because Messi is getting old and the players also need other adventurers for his career. it won't matter much when Messi and Ronaldo leave La Liga, La Liga is still a fierce competition.
It's true what you said, if indeed La Liga is a little more competitive than the Bundesliga and Ligue 1, because there are several teams that do compete in the championship competition, unlike the case with one or two dominant teams such as the Bundesliga and Ligue 1, but I think lost Messi and Ronaldo actually lowered the prestige of La Liga, especially in matches like el classico , although we still see an El Classico duel but believe it or not, El Cllassico is no longer as hot as it was when there was still competition between Messi and Ronaldo.
The rivalry between Barcelona and Real Madrid in the El Clasico has been going on for a very long time.  If you say that the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi has reduced the prestige of La Liga is something that is not right and you have forgotten the long history of Spanish football.  Long before they played, quite a number of world star players were involved in the most prestigious duel.  Every player has their own era.  El Clasico will always be awaited and new players will be born who will always heat up the rivalry of two great clubs in this world.
I will not argue with your words, because what you say is true if El Classico has had a long history with many star players who have shined so far, but have you ever found a fiercer El Classico match that occurred besides the Messi and Ronaldo era?
As a football fan, to be honest, the el classico era of Messi and Ronaldo rivalry is the hottest  in my opinion, the competition that puts the pride of Barcelona and Madrid at risk is getting fiercer when added to the rivalry that has occurred so far between Messi and Ronaldo, even during the first time El Classico this season happened without Messi and Ronaldo, the president of La Liga (Javier Tebas) also admitted that El Classico seemed like an iconic loss.

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May 30, 2022, 08:17:50 PM
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Barcelona's performance in the last 3 seasons is very weak. Barcelona's performance has deteriorated since Koeman became Barcelona's coach. Although Xavi has been able to stabilize the team, he has not yet been able to form a completely strong team. Barcelona need more experienced players in defense. At the same time now Barcelona needs experienced striker. If Lewandowski joins Barcelona, ​​I think Barcelona will be stronger. Next season, the title fight between Barcelona and Real Madrid will intensify.
I agree with you. Barcelona had a terrible performance with poor results under the leadership of Koeman. The last time Barcelona won the La Liga title was in the 2018/2019 season. Xavi had a great impact on the team. However, as you stated, if they basically improve their squad with a good striker and also strengthen their defence. Barcelona will surely be capable of competing for the League title with their rival Madrid.
It will be very difficult to happen because in this case they are still short of money for it and if they push then it is possible for them to dig the same hole as at the beginning of this season.
I personally prefer them to act more carefully. even though winning is the target and facing rivals in the fight for the title is a good thing but when they push themselves with dying finances then this can backfire too for them

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