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Obviously the addiction that risk health is the worse and more dangerous that we shouldn't tolerate in ourselves. Well, even gambling can really affect our health especially the mental health, cigar addiction is more complex and can destroy your whole career. Gambling addiction is worst for me, In cigar your health is at risk it will slowly kill you alone but if you have gambling addiction and you have a family to provide and support, the future of your family is at risk not only you so it is much worst. But it depends on the situation, If you won more than you lose on gambling.
Having cigar addiction will also consume your money to buy packs of cigars. I think it's the same with gambling addiction. You can't define that it will slowly kill you because sometimes the slow process becomes an instant.
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Choosing between cigar addiction and gambling addiction is like choosing between health problems and money problems. One can smoke a cigar and gamble within reason, but in terms of addiction, health problems would be far worse, especially if one gets something like lung or tongue cancer from cigar addiction It is unlikely you are going to develop these maladies in a year or so But you can ruin your own life and the lives of your dear ones within months due to uncontrollable gambling (what gambling addiction basically amounts to). And with excessive gambling you are bound to have serious health issues as well eventually. The connection may seem less obvious but that doesn't make these issues less real or less severe. After reading posts in this thread it is difficult to avoid drawing a conclusion that many fellow posters have little understanding of what real addiction is or how dangerous it can be
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I know this topic was, but I'm interested in explaining why you would compare these two things that have only one thing in common, addiction. Why compare them if they are two different terms. Eg for cigars we give money and have no profit, while for gambling we give money and there is a possibility of getting money. In the world, these two topics are crucial, but why ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something? When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted? I would like to say that i can quit gambling for a long time period and it's easier then quitting tobacco for me. But definition of gambling is quite vague, and comes big a broad spectrum like addiction itself. Is investing in altcoins itself gambling? I would like to think not and i like to think that i know what i am doing, but i am a little biased on this subject. Some would say that everything i do in life is more or less gambling anyway. I don’t think quitting gambling is so easy, if you can quit gambling at will that means you aren’t addicted, if you have suffered or know anyone that has suffered from gambling addiction then you would understand better. It’s better to be addicted to cigar or tobacco than gambling. I have seen and know a lot of people that have been addicted to cigar and then stop it when they wish to but this is impossible with gambling addicts. A lot of gambling addicts have to visit a rehabilitation center to be able to say goodbye to gambling but not always the same with cigarette addicts, the few people that are addicted to cigar and that has a need to visit re bah do not even spend much time at the center before recovering to become better persons.
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I know this topic was, but I'm interested in explaining why you would compare these two things that have only one thing in common, addiction. Why compare them if they are two different terms. Eg for cigars we give money and have no profit, while for gambling we give money and there is a possibility of getting money. In the world, these two topics are crucial, but why ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something? When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted? I would like to say that i can quit gambling for a long time period and it's easier then quitting tobacco for me. But definition of gambling is quite vague, and comes big a broad spectrum like addiction itself. Is investing in altcoins itself gambling? I would like to think not and i like to think that i know what i am doing, but i am a little biased on this subject. Some would say that everything i do in life is more or less gambling anyway. I don’t think quitting gambling is so easy, if you can quit gambling at will that means you aren’t addicted, if you have suffered or know anyone that has suffered from gambling addiction then you would understand better. It’s better to be addicted to cigar or tobacco than gambling Fully support this view If you have a strong addiction to things like alcohol, drugs, or if you are a gambling addict, these addictions are there for life, and it is very hard, if not downright impossible, to get rid of them. The sad irony (which is often overlooked) is that people who can free themselves of these ruinous dependences on their own are unlikely to turn into addicts in the first place. It is those who can't that become addicted I have seen and know a lot of people that have been addicted to cigar and then stop it when they wish to but this is impossible with gambling addicts Smoking is also difficult to drop I know many people who had been claiming in the broad daylight they could easily stop smoking, but eventually they started smoking again. On the other hand, some people are smoking without getting addicted to this habit at all, and they could quit smoking cold-turkey if they chose so. It is all in one's mental makeup
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November 10, 2019, 10:01:51 AM |
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Perspective. But from my experience,,, I have to say gambling is worse. Cigarettes are bad but I know a lot of people who smoke, and they destroy themselves slowly maybe and also maybe others for 2nd hand smoke.
But gambling? I have seen this destroy families and friendships. People turn into crazy monsters who borrow and borrow and their lives go into ruin.
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Cigarette is killing you physically while gambling is killing you mentally. Both are addiction but if I were to choose among them on what's worse between them, I choose gambling. Cigarette isn't expensive compared to gambling. In gambling, you can easily lose money. Losing money can affect you mentally and emotionally. You might end up getting stressed or even depressed about it... It only takes tenths or hundreds or continuous losing and you'll end up with nothing, while in cigarette addiction, you can take a lot cigarettes before you can feel the pain it can cause you
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November 14, 2019, 11:21:13 PM |
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Cigarette is killing you physically while gambling is killing you mentally. Both are addiction but if I were to choose among them on what's worse between them, I choose gambling. Cigarette isn't expensive compared to gambling. In gambling, you can easily lose money. Losing money can affect you mentally and emotionally. You might end up getting stressed or even depressed about it... It only takes tenths or hundreds or continuous losing and you'll end up with nothing, while in cigarette addiction, you can take a lot cigarettes before you can feel the pain it can cause you
I think stress and depression isn't so problematic like a deathly infirmity on the lungs. That is why I think cigarettes are much worse than gambling. Even the worse diseases you can obtain by gambling aren't so bad like the ones you can obtain by smoking. Money can be easily acquired, but health is too precious to be wasted...
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November 14, 2019, 11:59:17 PM |
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Lets put it this way. Your health is your biggest wealth. So if you are not healthy because of the complications caused by your cigar addiction, you cant play your favorite game in real life even online if you are bed ridden already. Even if you stop your cigar addiction, it already caused a damage in your lungs. That's why I always challenge those who ask me to try smoking, give me 3 health benefits of smoking and I will start smoking, sorry to those who smoke, I respect your decision to try smoking. No offense.
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November 15, 2019, 01:37:53 AM |
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Cigarette is killing you physically while gambling is killing you mentally. Both are addiction but if I were to choose among them on what's worse between them, I choose gambling. Cigarette isn't expensive compared to gambling. In gambling, you can easily lose money. Losing money can affect you mentally and emotionally. You might end up getting stressed or even depressed about it... It only takes tenths or hundreds or continuous losing and you'll end up with nothing, while in cigarette addiction, you can take a lot cigarettes before you can feel the pain it can cause you
I think stress and depression isn't so problematic like a deathly infirmity on the lungs. That is why I think cigarettes are much worse than gambling. Even the worse diseases you can obtain by gambling aren't so bad like the ones you can obtain by smoking. Money can be easily acquired, but health is too precious to be wasted... But stress and depression can cause deathly because if we cannot think how to solve the problem, we will end up our lives without thinking about too long. There are so many stories that tellings about one person killing himself because of stress and depression. Both cigar and gambling addiction can ruin our lives for a long time. Cigar addiction can cause a health problem, while gambling can create a money problem. So both are worse, and we need to give attention to take care of ourselves, not too addicted to cigar and gambling. Smoking and playing gamblings are okay, but too much cigar and too often to playing gambling can kill you someday. So you know how to react with cigar and gambling addiction, and I hope that we can prevent ourselves from that addiction.
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November 15, 2019, 06:27:51 AM |
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Cigarette is killing you physically while gambling is killing you mentally. Both are addiction but if I were to choose among them on what's worse between them, I choose gambling. Cigarette isn't expensive compared to gambling. In gambling, you can easily lose money. Losing money can affect you mentally and emotionally. You might end up getting stressed or even depressed about it... It only takes tenths or hundreds or continuous losing and you'll end up with nothing, while in cigarette addiction, you can take a lot cigarettes before you can feel the pain it can cause you
I think stress and depression isn't so problematic like a deathly infirmity on the lungs. That is why I think cigarettes are much worse than gambling. Even the worse diseases you can obtain by gambling aren't so bad like the ones you can obtain by smoking. Money can be easily acquired, but health is too precious to be wasted... Each are worse than the other in some form. There are people who have been affected with lung disease, but they aren't smokers. Same time there are people who have stressed themselves out of gambling and caused so much health issues. When a man is free from everything he won't go for a cigar or some addictive. This makes me believe both form of addiction is worse.
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November 15, 2019, 06:55:48 AM |
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Cigarette is killing you physically while gambling is killing you mentally. Both are addiction but if I were to choose among them on what's worse between them, I choose gambling. Cigarette isn't expensive compared to gambling. In gambling, you can easily lose money. Losing money can affect you mentally and emotionally. You might end up getting stressed or even depressed about it... It only takes tenths or hundreds or continuous losing and you'll end up with nothing, while in cigarette addiction, you can take a lot cigarettes before you can feel the pain it can cause you
I think stress and depression isn't so problematic like a deathly infirmity on the lungs. That is why I think cigarettes are much worse than gambling. Even the worse diseases you can obtain by gambling aren't so bad like the ones you can obtain by smoking. Money can be easily acquired, but health is too precious to be wasted... Comparing addictions between cigarettes or gambling, I think none of them are good, both are very bad! even if told to choose I will not choose because both of them make our body sick in various aspects of mental and physical, will eventually lead to a death, cigarette affects physically = you can die, gambling affects mentally = you can die from too much stressing.
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November 15, 2019, 07:23:18 AM |
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Perspective. But from my experience,,, I have to say gambling is worse. Cigarettes are bad but I know a lot of people who smoke, and they destroy themselves slowly maybe and also maybe others for 2nd hand smoke.
But gambling? I have seen this destroy families and friendships. People turn into crazy monsters who borrow and borrow and their lives go into ruin.
but dont you think if a man destroys Himself wont destroy His family as well?if the person suffer from cancer and stop working top feed the family,then how can they survive because he also needs a lot to pay for the treatment? theres a domino effect about smoking mate so i think there is nothing to choose but both are baddest of all vices. worst can be asses not by us,but those who will get affected and its unexplainable ,its easy for us to say now but things will be different if we suffer from those.
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Perspective. But from my experience,,, I have to say gambling is worse. Cigarettes are bad but I know a lot of people who smoke, and they destroy themselves slowly maybe and also maybe others for 2nd hand smoke.
But gambling? I have seen this destroy families and friendships. People turn into crazy monsters who borrow and borrow and their lives go into ruin.
but dont you think if a man destroys Himself wont destroy His family as well?if the person suffer from cancer and stop working top feed the family,then how can they survive because he also needs a lot to pay for the treatment? theres a domino effect about smoking mate so i think there is nothing to choose but both are baddest of all vices. worst can be asses not by us,but those who will get affected and its unexplainable ,its easy for us to say now but things will be different if we suffer from those. Both of cigar and gambling will destroy us, not just a family but a life. Although other people treated gambling as form of entertainment, but the sad thing on it was addiction and lost of property due to extreme of activities linked to it. Once a habit becomes a usual activity, it would leads to worst level and tends to be uncontrollable.
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Ucy
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November 15, 2019, 08:35:51 AM |
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I know this topic was, but I'm interested in explaining why you would compare these two things that have only one thing in common, addiction. Why compare them if they are two different terms. Eg for cigars we give money and have no profit, while for gambling we give money and there is a possibility of getting money. In the world, these two topics are crucial, but why ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something? When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted? Probably love for things that are not beneficial ... Especially things that are harmful to the people. This's why it is important for people to avoid trying things that have no real benefits to them. If something makes you feel good after taking it, make sure to check the advantages and disadvantages, if the disadvantages outweigh that advantages then you really should not continue using it. Those that are not harmful but have some advantages should be done moderately to avoid addiction.
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November 15, 2019, 08:45:37 AM |
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If something makes you feel good after taking it, make sure to check the advantages and disadvantages, if the disadvantages outweigh that advantages then you really should not continue using it. Those that are not harmful but have some advantages should be done moderately to avoid addiction.
If we refer this to gambling, this actually depends on the person's capacity to control himself. Gambling should not be seen as a bad activity as it's a kind of activity that could provide the best entertainment we are looking, if we handle ourselves properly. This even offers an opportunity for those who have skills in gambling, but since the reality is not everyone of us are winners, we should know if we should be aggressive or just do it moderately to enjoy, that way, we can prevent ourselves being addicted because we are honest with our real chances.
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Ucy
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November 15, 2019, 09:20:30 AM |
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If something makes you feel good after taking it, make sure to check the advantages and disadvantages, if the disadvantages outweigh that advantages then you really should not continue using it. Those that are not harmful but have some advantages should be done moderately to avoid addiction.
If we refer this to gambling, this actually depends on the person's capacity to control himself. Gambling should not be seen as a bad activity as it's a kind of activity that could provide the best entertainment we are looking, if we handle ourselves properly. This even offers an opportunity for those who have skills in gambling, but since the reality is not everyone of us are winners, we should know if we should be aggressive or just do it moderately to enjoy, that way, we can prevent ourselves being addicted because we are honest with our real chances. Enjoyment according to Google: the state or process of taking pleasure in something. Question is, can enjoyment and moderation exist side by side? They probably can but won't be that easy. You'll need to be very discipline to overcome the temptation to play thesame thing frequently for the enjoyment. In my opinion, you should only "enjoy" what is beneficial (and not harmful) to you. Kill off the feeling of enjoyment whenever you are on something that does not benefit you. Just play and aim for the price.
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Kasabus
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November 15, 2019, 09:29:37 AM |
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If something makes you feel good after taking it, make sure to check the advantages and disadvantages, if the disadvantages outweigh that advantages then you really should not continue using it. Those that are not harmful but have some advantages should be done moderately to avoid addiction.
If we refer this to gambling, this actually depends on the person's capacity to control himself. Gambling should not be seen as a bad activity as it's a kind of activity that could provide the best entertainment we are looking, if we handle ourselves properly. This even offers an opportunity for those who have skills in gambling, but since the reality is not everyone of us are winners, we should know if we should be aggressive or just do it moderately to enjoy, that way, we can prevent ourselves being addicted because we are honest with our real chances. Enjoyment according to Google: the state or process of taking pleasure in something. Question is, can enjoyment and moderation exist side by side? They probably can but won't be that easy. You'll need to be very discipline to overcome the temptation to play thesame thing frequently for the enjoyment. In my opinion, you should only "enjoy" what is beneficial (and not harmful) to you. Kill off the feeling of enjoyment whenever you are on something that does not benefit you. Just play and aim for the price. You will get a real enjoyment when you are not doing harmful activity and gambling is not harmful as long as you remain a responsible gambler. if you close your mind and conclude that gambling is harmful then the government should already ban this, I mean every government in the whole world.
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November 15, 2019, 10:41:05 AM |
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I can probably say that the worse it cigar addiction because if you have been addicted to the cigarettes then it would be so hard for you to stop it simply because your body will always find the nicotine of the cigarette that it's been taking for a long time, while addiction in gambling can brought you into many bad activities especially if you don't have money or funds that may support your gambling vices and it would be hard also to stops.
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November 15, 2019, 12:48:39 PM |
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I can probably say that the worse it cigar addiction because if you have been addicted to the cigarettes then it would be so hard for you to stop it simply because your body will always find the nicotine of the cigarette that it's been taking for a long time,
That's true because its already within your system and your body will keep craving for a smoke. while addiction in gambling can brought you into many bad activities especially if you don't have money or funds that may support your gambling vices and it would be hard also to stops.
These gamblers who are addicted may not only lose their money but they may lose their help. if you see some addicted gamblers, they also do smoke, they drink, and they don't sleep enough time as required by our body, so basically, gambling addiction has a lot of negative effect in our life, not only financially.
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November 15, 2019, 04:35:11 PM |
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I think gambling addiction as its a serious illness which might lead to destruction of your health also. I think not, and gambling addiction is not the same as cigar addiction when it comes to its effects. It is not related, and it is a different aspect, so I don't agree with what you've stated. There are a lot of effects of gambling addiction, but not to the point that it will give you an unhealthy lifestyle. It is possible but for those who are not knowledgeable enough about gambling. Once you destroyed your finances which will likely to happen for gambling addicts, you will start destroying your health as well as you have no peace in life, you cannot concentrate, can't sleep and can't eat well and you will live a miserable life.
When that happens, you are not ready, or you didn't research before doing gambling. Seek first the information like, what to do before gambling, effects of gambling, how to do betting, etc. that will benefit you for you to have a successful and strategic gambling. Doing some analysis and investigation in gambling will make you knowledgeable, well-informed, and intelligent to avoid losses. Avoiding losses will now hinder you from destroying your health because of that. Yes, losses can make you unhappy, depressed, and miserable, but there is a solution for that. Try to practice gambling, try first a minimum bet, and limit your odds for you to control your money. Then if you win, you're lucky! If you come to the point where your losses are huge enough, this is where you should now know how to CONTROL YOUR EMOTIONS and improve your SELF-DISCIPLINE — learning that two will make your mind healthy during tough times.
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