Is the market currently being manipulated?

[Ararbermas]

Yes definitely!  and for sure as usual its being manipulated by some greedy investors again, because in fact they are the common reason even before wherein why after the pump in bitcoin and several altcoin there's a sudden fall afterwards  . But so far the recent decline it's not even bad in my view because bitcoin still standing at 9k and keep showing strong support.  So as of now lets hope whales didn't interrupt. Because you know it can causes massive declined wherein for sure bitcoin will go back again to the bottom without knowing. .

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[carlisle1]

its always been manipulated mate,specially when there are some news coming out and they will have a chance to manage the manipulation.

this has been happening for long years now though there are no proof but its an obvious scenario and theres nothing to think more.so dont just think that its only from recent but for many times already.

[matchi2011]

Everything look normal , like it always do so yes , markets are always manipulated but this shouldn't be an impediment for us to stay away and not investing into cryptocurrencies especially now , when the accumulate zone kicked in. Look at the volume in the last month at altcoins and you will see that most of them are into accumulation period and a lot of money are being trow into them with the purpose at some point this year some of them will rise.

It's a matter of how good will you do your research and how you will anticipate the next market movement, It's tough to say if the project is accumulating or really fading and dying naturally. Most of those coins falls and unable to cope up since heavy dumped take place and nobody
wanted to reinvest and hold. You need to check every possibilities before taking your money inside investment.

[cosmofly]

usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?

It's also a pretty good conspiracy theory. I quite like your idea because it makes sense for market manipulations.
Now often sharks will try to push the price of bitcoin down so they can buy more and prepare for big pump in the future.
So we can follow the sharks by buying bitcoin now and hold until halving.

[Experia]

Imagine there are lots of addresses that currently holding a huge number of btc once it was moved in the market it will really affect the price but when if it is only moved without buying or trading then there is no sense of manipulation if it is for the sake of trading then there is a manipulation. Since the halving is near let us expect that those whales will be doing something to accumulate more coins in the market.

[alan2here]

Yes definitely!  and for sure as usual its being manipulated by some greedy investors again, because in fact they are the common reason even before wherein why after the pump in bitcoin and several altcoin there's a sudden fall afterwards  . But so far the recent decline it's not even bad in my view because bitcoin still standing at 9k and keep showing strong support.  So as of now lets hope whales didn't interrupt. Because you know it can causes massive declined wherein for sure bitcoin will go back again to the bottom without knowing. .

This market has been manipulated for a long time and they can control the value of Bitcoin at any time. If you look at the volatility of this market, you can be sure of that because both the uptrend and the downward trend are all unexpected and unpredictable. I think if you take advantage of that crash, you will be able to buy lots of cheap coins and can sell as soon as the market recovers.

I often wait for the market drop because it is a very good opportunity for everyone but need to be more careful because whales are the ones who control this market.

[DaMut]

it might happen, I think, there is no crypto market that is not manipulated. all crypto markets are still manipulated. those whales can always make pumps and dumps on the market. yes, maybe now is the last decline before all markets have growth and create new high price levels. may all be over soon.

Not only the crypto market even the conventional market is being manipulated by people or groups or organizations. it is because someone has the power and authority to control the market, as long as it is invented by humans. manipulation will always exist. just follow the flow of the market if you do not want to get drowned, we are a tiny ship in the middle of the ocean.

[Bezobraznike]

it might happen, I think, there is no crypto market that is not manipulated. all crypto markets are still manipulated. those whales can always make pumps and dumps on the market. yes, maybe now is the last decline before all markets have growth and create new high price levels. may all be over soon.

Not only the crypto market even the conventional market is being manipulated by people or groups or organizations. it is because someone has the power and authority to control the market, as long as it is invented by humans. manipulation will always exist. just follow the flow of the market if you do not want to get drowned, we are a tiny ship in the middle of the ocean.

   Yes, every market can be a subject of manipulations. We can't do a lot about it, we are don't have power to do anything. What
we can do is to try to follow big players and to try to stay alive.
   I'm here for long-term holding, manipulations don't affect my position too much. I believe this market will continue to grow with
time, and when it grows enough it will be harder to manipulate with it, it's my opinion.

[AliMan]

its always been manipulated mate,specially when there are some news coming out and they will have a chance to manage the manipulation.

this has been happening for long years now though there are no proof but its an obvious scenario and theres nothing to think more.so dont just think that its only from recent but for many times already.

Indeed manipulation has not yet proven, but I do believed that whales had a huge contribution why btc price surges and declined abruptly. Most traders who've been holding for so long, can determine the way it should and how the market goes in fairly. Most of the movement prevails through the recurring pattern, which can be seen as you're monitoring closely with the recent changes. We eventually see the usual circumstances that always tend to occur from the past, that has now happening all over again.

[peter0425]

I think the market looks stable, bitcoin doesn't fall too far, so it's safe now. maybe this is just a small rally, so don't worry. it's too fast to think the market is manipulated just because of this. halving is still too long, maybe about 6 months. so there's no way the hype started this fast.

it may not been manipulated now but the issue here is the manipulation that has been happening in this market.

for how many times that when some issue arise market automatically move from pumping and sometimes dumping.

anyway market is now stabilizing and hopefully will grow in december

[poptok1]

For something to be manipulated, it requires a manipulator.
Can we point in general direction of such person or persons? Organisations maybe? States? Yes/no?
There are even no vague conspiracy theories about it. Why it's so hard to acknowledge, that this experiment is really running free?
For the fist time in post 14th century world, we have something that resembles real, free market. Maybe this is how it just looks?
Just like that, volatile, rough around the edges, full of traps and crooks and so unpredictable that most choose to believe in a mastermind behind it all rather than convoluted, extremely complicated, dependencies rich mechanics.
Despite this, if someone believes that a manipulator is there, please post who that might be and justify it. 

[posi]

Yes definitely!  and for sure as usual its being manipulated by some greedy investors again, because in fact they are the common reason even before wherein why after the pump in bitcoin and several altcoin there's a sudden fall afterwards  . But so far the recent decline it's not even bad in my view because bitcoin still standing at 9k and keep showing strong support.  So as of now lets hope whales didn't interrupt. Because you know it can causes massive declined wherein for sure bitcoin will go back again to the bottom without knowing. .

No, it not every down trend occasion that occur in the market are through manipulation because the last 2months of the Q4 are holiday (Halloween, Christmas etc) time and people usually sell some portion of their holding or use their crypto to buy some stuff for the family.

 

We have that mindset that the market is manipulated and there were several articles that came out for it to report but we don't know what exactly is happening during the dumps. We have a certain idea that there's a massive selling that occurs.

I concur about your idea before the pump, there should be a sort of correction for the whales to accumulate. Perhaps, they really are the ones that's pulling the price down so that they can easily sell, accumulate and repeat.

I supported what you said but the reason why some people believed the market to be manipulated is because of the volatility in nature of crypto market. Meanwhile, there's always a reason behind every trend posed by the market and current trend was slightly market correction which usually occur every Q4 of the year which is not block halving year. However, we have a situation where the whales are the one behind the market status.

Yep, it's always the whales that has it behind the market but about the manipulation we don't really have an idea about the actual scene. I used to believe that it's been manipulated but no proof for that and just all the reports that it is.

With what i have experienced so far about the crypto market every trend which occur without no proof of the market manipulated is definitely a logical occasion which always replicate in the market.

[dimonstration]

For something to be manipulated, it requires a manipulator.
Can we point in general direction of such person or persons? Organisations maybe? States? Yes/no?
There are even no vague conspiracy theories about it. Why it's so hard to acknowledge, that this experiment is really running free?
For the fist time in post 14th century world, we have something that resembles real, free market. Maybe this is how it just looks?
Just like that, volatile, rough around the edges, full of traps and crooks and so unpredictable that most choose to believe in a mastermind behind it all rather than convoluted, extremely complicated, dependencies rich mechanics.
Despite this, if someone believes that a manipulator is there, please post who that might be and justify it. 

These manipulators or whales might be nameless now for their security purposes. But like how volatility happens it tends to become due. from the people who sells they're huge holding for some reason or for their reason that they want to lower the value of certain coin to achieve price they wanted. But I believe that it will be hard if he's only one so maybe an organisation behind them, but these can all be from judgement no proof provided since there's no specific name or details.

[poptok1]

These manipulators or whales might be nameless now for their security purposes. But like how volatility happens it tends to become due. from the people who sells they're huge holding for some reason or for their reason that they want to lower the value of certain coin to achieve price they wanted. But I believe that it will be hard if he's only one so maybe an organisation behind them, but these can all be from judgement no proof provided since there's no specific name or details.

Exactly my point, no details, no names, no data, nothing.
You are suggesting that wealthy players, whales are manipulators? I think it's not fair. For me it is the question of; is the market being speculative in nature? And I say yes to such question. However calling those players with pejorative names is somewhat counterproductive. First of all it spreads black PR about crypto holders, second thing will be that its also slander bitcoin and it's cause.
There is also a case of those mythical manipulators hurting themself, on purpose and deliberately by those speculations that they make... kinda nonsense

[caffu chino]

every time the market is always manipulated, so we don't need to worry about this. and for the purpose of manipulation it is only for profit. so don't be surprised if prices suddenly go up and down in just a short time.

[Oceat]

If it is too obvious, you will know for sure since it's just a two way to know it. One is right and one is wrong, if you see that there is no news/article then suddenly the market acted it's own way then that is too obvious, right? Everything here can be seen through statistics and data, you don't need someone to tell it to you. The free resources are telling it to you already.

[Kurokonobasuke]

If it is too obvious, you will know for sure since it's just a two way to know it. One is right and one is wrong, if you see that there is no news/article then suddenly the market acted it's own way then that is too obvious, right? Everything here can be seen through statistics and data, you don't need someone to tell it to you. The free resources are telling it to you already.

I don't think news or articles affect much in crypto, rather it's only effective for stocks or forex. The reason is that crypto isn't affected by the economics or whatever business or bilateral partnership. The only manipulators in crypto are whales which can be considered as stakeholders. It's easy to indentify that they exist once a market becomes volatile for no reason.

[lobo13hf]

I think the market looks stable, bitcoin doesn't fall too far, so it's safe now. maybe this is just a small rally, so don't worry. it's too fast to think the market is manipulated just because of this. halving is still too long, maybe about 6 months. so there's no way the hype started this fast.

it may not been manipulated now but the issue here is the manipulation that has been happening in this market.

for how many times that when some issue arise market automatically move from pumping and sometimes dumping.

anyway market is now stabilizing and hopefully will grow in december

Im not sure about where can you see that if the market is stabilizing? How it was possible when there was a lot of exchange sites are still manipulating their volumes and so many bots in the market?
It's still manipulated. look at how a lot of exchange sites are writing fake volumes about their daily volume and that will definitely give impacts to the token or coins too.
The manipulation is happening anytime right now.

[Shasha80]

Everyone is free to think about the current market conditions, therefore my of the opinion that the current market is
manipulated. Those who manipulate the market must necessarily have a very large capital, that's why I accuse whales as
the culprit. Because whales have a very large capital to manipulate prices in the market. We can see almost this year
bearish market conditions, both bitcoin and altcoins have fallen very deep several times. For me this is an effort whales
make investors panic and sell crypto at cheap prices, and according to the plan whales can buy crypto at cheap prices.
So from that approaching halving BTC in 2020 prices slowly go up, because whales are starting to manipulate prices again.
In order to happen FOMO in 2020, so that after halving whales can sell at high prices.

[Oceat]

If it is too obvious, you will know for sure since it's just a two way to know it. One is right and one is wrong, if you see that there is no news/article then suddenly the market acted it's own way then that is too obvious, right? Everything here can be seen through statistics and data, you don't need someone to tell it to you. The free resources are telling it to you already.

I don't think news or articles affect much in crypto, rather it's only effective for stocks or forex. The reason is that crypto isn't affected by the economics or whatever business or bilateral partnership. The only manipulators in crypto are whales which can be considered as stakeholders. It's easy to indentify that they exist once a market becomes volatile for no reason.

Exactly what I meant to say that once the market started to act strange it is either the whales or a normal movement of the market. The only manipulator we have are those whales who can do whatever they want in the market. We small fishes had to follow them in order to take that profit that we want.