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[LittleBitFunny]

Looks like there is a scam accusation here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5325714.msg56626251#msg56626251

That guy is caught for suspicious depositing behavior. I don't know, maybe his funds came from an illegal source, maybe Roobet asked him to provide his earning source-related documents.
Only Roobet team will be able to give a good explanation about this, wait, and see how they handle this issue.
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@Swordsoffreedom I googled their KYC rules and found an previous KYC related post, and I feel that the op needs to verify if he’s falling foul of those KYC rules.

I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.

For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.

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Also found another Reddit post where once users reported foul on thier KYC policy they quickly worked on removing it, hence I feel that they’ll solve this amicably.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Roobet/comments/jojko1/warning_roobet_updated_the_aml_but_not_publicly/

Nice query,
Though Roobet has zero percent tolerance about breaking their rules but they were always on the side of the users, listened to them, and solved their problems nicely. In fact, Roobet is very user-friendly from the beginning and they are transparent on their rules and regulations. I think OP failed to provide the transparency of his source of wealth, that's why he got perma-blocked.

[why]

can someone from support please confirm when kyc documents are needed? it says when depositing or withdrawing cash but neither of those appear to be options to begin with. at what point are the documents needed? this is a big concern to me

I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.

For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!

[bitterguy28]

can someone from support please confirm when kyc documents are needed? it says when depositing or withdrawing cash but neither of those appear to be options to begin with. at what point are the documents needed? this is a big concern to me

I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.

For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!

If that is the rules implied to them by the government then Who are they to ignore ?

We are only reacting as gambler and wanted to play an win , But them as gambling operator also wanted to Do Business without Hassle .

So implementation of whatever required to them is part of the system .

so better comply or find another place to play simple as that.

[lixer]

One more doubt is that do you close the account if the coins came from a mixer as per the image posted by the user it says that and i have not heard any situation where a gambling account is closed because they used mixers.

I think using mixing service is not belongs to severe-risked indicators. If their system is able to detect about it and think the funding source is suspicious then they've the rights for asking KYC and earning source, Accounts getting suspend only if the core team detect that the risk to be related to illegal activities.

Mixer is something that actually used by a lot of criminals, it is actually a decent idea that nobody should be following where our money moves, but at the same time could be used by bad people as well, this is why I am a bit confused about it. I would prefer if nobody watched my money, or at least have the capability to watch my money, but at the same time I have money in an exchange that has all my information and my face with it as well.

Hence, I think it would be better if mixers were all banned from all places, from exchanges, from casinos, everything. However in that case you could simply open a blockchain.com account, get a new wallet, send your illegal money from your illegal account to mixer and get it to your new blockchain.com account that is clean and then send it anywhere you see fit, which would be still possible so I do not know what to think about them.

[milewilda]

can someone from support please confirm when kyc documents are needed? it says when depositing or withdrawing cash but neither of those appear to be options to begin with. at what point are the documents needed? this is a big concern to me

I checked their AML policy and it looks like you always need to do KYC when withdrawing from Roobet for the first time (though it's just filling in name/date of birth/country), and then you have to do a stricter KYC each time you withdraw $2000 or deposit $2000, that involves your ID or passport/driver's license.

For depositing/withdrawing more than $5000, you need to give them your source of wealth.

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!

If that is the rules implied to them by the government then Who are they to ignore ?

We are only reacting as gambler and wanted to play an win , But them as gambling operator also wanted to Do Business without Hassle .

So implementation of whatever required to them is part of the system .

so better comply or find another place to play simple as that.

True but im aint seeing any complaints into this thread for a bit of a time about Kyc and basing off on how big those players been earning on this site and those big hits then they do make out withdrawals
without any problems or complaints which would really be putting up the question if they do really implement out that $2000 deposit/withdrawal kyc or not?
When it comes to regulations and since these businesses are regulated then theres nothing you can do as a user.If you do find out hassle or not appealing at all
then you can always opt out to find for another one but i doubt that it is really becoming a standard.

[famososMuertos]

Actually, it is to put off an issue that is resolved in the ToS, each player is a particular case and is evaluated by a system that determines it based on a series of information that takes him to that point, freezing the account, it is not Someone randomly points to certain accounts to block. Although cases have been seen.

If the system blocks you, go to its review process and voila, if you do not pass it, the system must be determining something that relates to your funds in some of its prohibitions, sometimes we forget that Txs have a long history of transactions and sometimes they may have been involved in obscure transactions that are not known a priori by their ultimate recipient, but in this case the evidence over your good faith prevails. You can always review the funds you have and know if they are related to a previous shady business.

[RealMalatesta]

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!

If that is the rules implied to them by the government then Who are they to ignore ?

We are only reacting as gambler and wanted to play an win , But them as gambling operator also wanted to Do Business without Hassle .

So implementation of whatever required to them is part of the system .

so better comply or find another place to play simple as that.

I do agree, if governments do apply that rule it would be very important. However I do not get casinos that have curacao license or stuff like that where it is obvious that they are not getting anything at all, not caring about anything at all, curacao just cares if you pay the license fee and nothing else, then why ask KYC in the first place? There are many places that has curacao license and do not have KYC and not care about it at all.

Only case it should be is if it is a legality battle, if there is a problem, if there is a scam, if a customer tries to steal from the casino, ask for their KYC by saying you will pay them if they send their KYC and still do not pay them and send their information to related places as a criminal who stole from you. Otherwise I do not see why KYC should be anything in anywhere, it is online gambling and I haven't given any of my info in any casino yet.

[Peanutswar]

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!

AFAIK having a KYC is just a one-time verification and those follow-ups are just for the security of your account just for validation I don't think so this requires to pass every time, also this is for your safety too. and if they just requesting you two times a year there's nothing bad with it. but on my side, as a user to I think it's good to only to have a one-time verification.

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I also don’t prefer to disclose my identity to online casinos.  But it is because of their policy and if we want to continue playing on their platform we have to follow it.  They also just follow the rules ... All crypto gambling sites have different and their own rules when it comes to KYC.  And it's rare for a site that you need to submit identifications to register or before you can start betting.  And here in Roobet, it's not like that.  If you are just a small gambler you will enjoy their games.  But if you are a really high rollers gambler, and you deposit a large amount.  And if you win big and you want to release it and you follow the KYC and AML policy there will be no problem based on the set limit or quota amount.  So you have to know this before you play.  It's just that simple.

[Jawhead999]

Hence, I think it would be better if mixers were all banned from all places, from exchanges, from casinos, everything. However in that case you could simply open a blockchain.com account, get a new wallet, send your illegal money from your illegal account to mixer and get it to your new blockchain.com account that is clean and then send it anywhere you see fit, which would be still possible so I do not know what to think about them.

I find it quite complicated to understand of your statement.

First, you want mixers got banned on all places, but you suggesting to send the money provided from mixers to a wallet. Doesn't it contradicting yourself? I mean when mixers were banned, you can't using it at all.

Second, if you suggestion is work... It sound like you're want cheating on Roobet TOS isn't?

[Bttzed03]

Hence, I think it would be better if mixers were all banned from all places, from exchanges, from casinos, everything. However in that case you could simply open a blockchain.com account, get a new wallet, send your illegal money from your illegal account to mixer and get it to your new blockchain.com account that is clean and then send it anywhere you see fit, which would be still possible so I do not know what to think about them.

I find it quite complicated to understand of your statement.

First, you want mixers got banned on all places, but you suggesting to send the money provided from mixers to a wallet. Doesn't it contradicting yourself? I mean when mixers were banned, you can't using it at all.

@lixer probably meant that exchanges and casinos should not accept BTC that passed through mixing platforms/coinjoin wallets but yeah it's still ironic. It sounds like if there are coin mixers, there are also coin cleansers which blockchain.com apparently does according that comment.

[numanoid]

I also don’t prefer to disclose my identity to online casinos.  But it is because of their policy and if we want to continue playing on their platform we have to follow it.  They also just follow the rules ... All crypto gambling sites have different and their own rules when it comes to KYC.  And it's rare for a site that you need to submit identifications to register or before you can start betting.  And here in Roobet, it's not like that.  If you are just a small gambler you will enjoy their games.  But if you are a really high rollers gambler, and you deposit a large amount.  And if you win big and you want to release it and you follow the KYC and AML policy there will be no problem based on the set limit or quota amount.  So you have to know this before you play.  It's just that simple.

You are wrong. Any gambling site ussually has said on their ToS they have right to ask everyone KYC in any time they want. Even though you only play with small amount, if that's only for money laundering or from any site which isn't permitted to deposit in a casino, your account could be blocked then they ask your KYC or from where the money came from.
Not all people check about ToS on a gambling site before they play, most of the time it only got skipped by user.

[Monarch-]

Going back to the topic of Roobet & fake bets -- I just wrote this big blog post to spark some further discussion on the topic of Roobet's fraudulent marketing strategies.

You can find the post here: https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778

[arwin100]

I also don’t prefer to disclose my identity to online casinos.  But it is because of their policy and if we want to continue playing on their platform we have to follow it.  They also just follow the rules ... All crypto gambling sites have different and their own rules when it comes to KYC.  And it's rare for a site that you need to submit identifications to register or before you can start betting.  And here in Roobet, it's not like that.  If you are just a small gambler you will enjoy their games.  But if you are a really high rollers gambler, and you deposit a large amount.  And if you win big and you want to release it and you follow the KYC and AML policy there will be no problem based on the set limit or quota amount.  So you have to know this before you play.  It's just that simple.

You are wrong. Any gambling site ussually has said on their ToS they have right to ask everyone KYC in any time they want. Even though you only play with small amount, if that's only for money laundering or from any site which isn't permitted to deposit in a casino, your account could be blocked then they ask your KYC or from where the money came from.
Not all people check about ToS on a gambling site before they play, most of the time it only got skipped by user.

Mostly this is the problem of people who didn't read the TOS before going unto something and they will get surprised once they ask for certain verification, we can expect that this one might happen especially if we deposit our balance to another third party platform or even on questionable website. We don't need to get afraid for providing our details if the one who ask for it is a trusted site and I don't mind providing it if roobet ask me that for verification purposes.

[LittleBitFunny]

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount? In this case, is it not enough to complete kyc once or twice a year? I didn't get any reason why you have to pass kyc each time you have made withdraw/deposit!

AFAIK having a KYC is just a one-time verification and those follow-ups are just for the security of your account just for validation I don't think so this requires to pass every time, also this is for your safety too. and if they just requesting you two times a year there's nothing bad with it. but on my side, as a user to I think it's good to only to have a one-time verification.

Think positive, Roobet do this just for ensuring your safety. They do not get any extra benefit if you verify KYC when withdrawn a big amount of money, Besides they have to do extra work for you to verify your documents.

If you lose your Authenticator device, then your funds is at risk and stranger may try to withdraw it. So, in this case the only way to recover your funds is verifying KYC. That's why, if user start Betting Big amount or deposit big amount Roobet ask for KYC to verify the user and give him permission to withdraw his funds safely.

[mu_enrico]

If you are just a small gambler you will enjoy their games.  But if you are a really high rollers gambler, and you deposit a large amount.  And if you win big and you want to release it and you follow the KYC and AML policy there will be no problem based on the set limit or quota amount.

True.

You are wrong. Any gambling site ussually has said on their ToS they have right to ask everyone KYC in any time they want. Even though you only play with small amount, if that's only for money laundering or from any site which isn't permitted to deposit in a casino, your account could be blocked then they ask your KYC or from where the money came from.

Also true.

Conclusion: deposit small amounts of clean money = no problem with KYC

Going back to the topic of Roobet & fake bets -- I just wrote this big blog post to spark some further discussion on the topic of Roobet's fraudulent marketing strategies.

You can find the post here: https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778

Nice post, it seems you still fight for it. The next step would be a legal case with proof, that's the only thing that can clean up the industry.

[Pmalek]

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount?

I have more trust in a site that requests KYC information when a player registers his account and before the first deposit is made, than a casino that asks for private details when it's time to withdraw money. The practice of not caring who the player is until he wins something significant is sometimes misused by crypto casinos. I would rather be told at the beginning: If you want to play here, you have to do KYC. That way I can either agree and do it, or find an alternative place to gamble.   

[dunfida]

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount?

I have more trust in a site that requests KYC information when a player registers his account and before the first deposit is made, than a casino that asks for private details when it's time to withdraw money. The practice of not caring who the player is until he wins something significant is sometimes misused by crypto casinos. I would rather be told at the beginning: If you want to play here, you have to do KYC. That way I can either agree and do it, or find an alternative place to gamble.   

Im with this and it much more preferable for these platforms to tell it since from the start rather than on asking these verification when you are tending to make out some withdrawal which would really be unpleasant or really a hassle thing on your part which you can tell that this platform is a bit shady due to that kind of behavior and with those initial requirements before you can make a deposit is much better
where you can really still have the option neither you do accept or would just simply skip out and find another one.

[rhomelmabini]

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount?

I have more trust in a site that requests KYC information when a player registers his account and before the first deposit is made, than a casino that asks for private details when it's time to withdraw money. The practice of not caring who the player is until he wins something significant is sometimes misused by crypto casinos. I would rather be told at the beginning: If you want to play here, you have to do KYC. That way I can either agree and do it, or find an alternative place to gamble.   

I'd agree too since that creates a trust among the gamblers, asking for some verification when it's time to withdraw what you won was the common issues I see among gamblers and it's totally annoying and it's really hefty especially if you're just simply winning yet your favorite site is skeptical about you.

[janggernaut]

Isn't it annoying to have to pass kyc every time you want to deposit or withdraw a little big amount?

I have more trust in a site that requests KYC information when a player registers his account and before the first deposit is made, than a casino that asks for private details when it's time to withdraw money. The practice of not caring who the player is until he wins something significant is sometimes misused by crypto casinos. I would rather be told at the beginning: If you want to play here, you have to do KYC. That way I can either agree and do it, or find an alternative place to gamble.   

Most of site won't tell you first when you signed up. It stated on their rules, but i think most of us don't aware there is KYC or not. I usually check their rules first whatever we need KYC or not before deposit my money, but i won't deposit if there is KYC stated since i don't want to give my details only for some bucks.