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April 23, 2021, 06:52:20 PM
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There's no need for everyone piling on in here saying "Yeah time to move to a new casino". If they upped the regulations for roobet there's nothing they can do, they either have to enforce this or they have to close shop. It's that simple!

It would not surprise me if similar things will happen to the other "reputable casinos" you are talking about in the near future too, that's the beauty of crypto being more accepted and adopted in general Smiley

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April 23, 2021, 06:59:31 PM
 #2422

There's no need for everyone piling on in here saying "Yeah time to move to a new casino". If they upped the regulations for roobet there's nothing they can do, they either have to enforce this or they have to close shop. It's that simple!

It would not surprise me if similar things will happen to the other "reputable casinos" you are talking about in the near future too, that's the beauty of crypto being more accepted and adopted in general Smiley
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Do we really think that Roobet like this if they do actually know that majority of people here on this market preferred anonymity? If its a regulated casino neither an offline or online
then you would really be expecting something like this.

Sudden changes is inevitable and as mentioned where those other casinos for now havent still asking some KYC, is it an assurance that they wont really be asking out in the future?
Hhampuz do hits the spot.

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April 23, 2021, 07:33:55 PM
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Update of my account.

Finally got the pops-up KYC for my account
We had some people saying these pop ups were because of using a vpn, did you use a vpn?

seems to effect this you at least need to login a few times or day and then the KYC pops up will showing up to your account. Can't really get this out so need to fill my early information, don't know for the people who already put their information did you need to take a picture as well on step 2? or after you finish step 1 with information KYC don't need to do step 2. Grin
From what I have read from others, level 1 KYC should suffice to stop those pop ups and going forward KYC is inevitable!!

For Mass adoption to happen some form of regulation needs to happen especially in the lines of AML/KYC.

I asked directly in Live Support whether the level in KYC will affect the limit for withdrawing answers from the agent is No.
If we don't do a suspicious activity, I think level 1 KYC is not a problem because level 1 doesn't ask for any documents.

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April 23, 2021, 08:04:09 PM
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Its not really a total mess up since this isn't really that much serious when we are talking about personal informations which we can really neither input fake or real info.
This is the tricky part. If we fill in real information, we are basically handing over our personal details to an online gambling site that was supposed to allow us to gamble anonymously without the requirement to provide such details.

On the other hand, if we fill in fake information, we could get screwed later on if they try to verify those details while withdrawing big amounts etc. This could lead to the casino voiding our funds, closing accounts etc.

This is why it's not always advisable to fill in fake KYC details(Depends on site) since it completely defeats the purpose of KYC in the first place.
I think it depends on what you are risking with it. For example I have always suggested people to put small amounts each time, amounts you wouldn't dare looking at twice, that way you could give fake information and when something bad happens that small amount will be confiscated and nothing else happens. That is something I can accept. Put $50 in and never look back, if something happens and you are basically asked to leave, all you lose is $50 (amount can be changed according to what you think is small).

This way you do not have to give your real ID, but I would say it could be illegal, that is the reason why I am not doing it. Not because I am afraid I would lose money, I can handle that, but maybe giving fake ID in this case could literally be illegal and you could be charged, or maybe not I do not know but I do not want to learn.

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April 23, 2021, 08:45:25 PM
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There's no need for everyone piling on in here saying "Yeah time to move to a new casino". If they upped the regulations for roobet there's nothing they can do, they either have to enforce this or they have to close shop. It's that simple!

It would not surprise me if similar things will happen to the other "reputable casinos" you are talking about in the near future too, that's the beauty of crypto being more accepted and adopted in general Smiley
This surprises me since been couple of days or even weeks not playing from the site and here comes the new regulations. I think there's people are still in shock they can't yet move on what was happening but this is the future and hope people will just agree and live with it.
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April 23, 2021, 09:11:53 PM
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Well, KYC nowadays is almost there even in exchange but at least those are in basic one such as name and where your country lives in --that is the most important in gambling because there are some countries that still prohibit gambling and as a regulated gambling site must follow from government jurisdictions. However, even on my side -- I shocked that there is KYC implemented after I open my account and the reason I did not get my reward on the art contest that I participated in this month and my account has a technical issue regarding KYC but I moved on and accept the reality, it is up to us now and I think this is for a better outcome in the future and perhaps other gambling sites will follow their steps.









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April 23, 2021, 09:34:03 PM
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Update of my account.

Finally got the pops-up KYC for my account
We had some people saying these pop ups were because of using a vpn, did you use a vpn?
I guess that is not about the VPN, I did not use the VPN but still, I've got a pop-up fill-up form of KYC verification asking my real name and exact address location but I guess still good because they are not asking for ID verification.

Let us accept the fact that the word decentralized is now slowly dissolved upon embracing cryptocurrencies. Due to the regulations by governments, they must have to follow otherwise their shop must be closed, they enforce this KYC I guess this is a part of being well-known and reputable gambling sites. You can choose various gambling sites that didn't require KYC but then, there will I guess a chance that will also follow of having KYC in the future.

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April 23, 2021, 10:10:04 PM
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There's no need for everyone piling on in here saying "Yeah time to move to a new casino". If they upped the regulations for roobet there's nothing they can do, they either have to enforce this or they have to close shop. It's that simple!

It would not surprise me if similar things will happen to the other "reputable casinos" you are talking about in the near future too, that's the beauty of crypto being more accepted and adopted in general Smiley
That’s right Roobet is just doing everything in accordance to their own regulations and I think people are just confused here since the implementation of KYC with roobet happened without having any official announcement so everyone is panicking. Anyway, if gambler will ship to another site then so be it, Roobet is still good and you have a choice to fill up KYC or not.

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In fact, I have never been in favor of KYC. I would never feel comfortable keeping my personal information stored on a gambling website. Naturally, no gambler will like it, especially in the case of gambling.

But in the case of Roobet, I have to think differently. I realized that no matter what happens, I will not be able to leave this platform in any way. In fact, I haven't had as much fun playing on any other casino as I did on Roobet. I like the House Edge a lot here, because no other casino has given me better returns like Roobet. I can guaranty that you will never get any online casino that will give you better RTP than Roobet.

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April 24, 2021, 02:00:06 AM
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Have anyone else tried to reach out to Roobet's support email regarding this KYC issue?  Well, less than an hour later, I sent a message to them regarding the grievances and complaints about the Identity confirmation and they were able to reply immediately.  So that's it, I asked them why we almost received this pop-up when opening their site that previously had an account and what was the real reason. I also mentioned those who provided fake info.

And here is the answer:
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This is a regulatory requirement and is standard operation procedure. I cannot speak to other accounts but they may not have been asked for it if they had it filled in already, or other cases, but we cannot provide information regarding other accounts.
 
As far as fake information being used, action will be taken in those cases.
Best Regards,
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I also told them that they will provide an update here in their thread to clarify everything because it happened suddenly and we did not receive any details before they implemented it.

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Let me get you more specific information you can feel free to share Smiley I will update you here when I hear back

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April 24, 2021, 03:04:14 AM
 #2431

Have anyone else tried to reach out to Roobet's support email regarding this KYC issue?  Well, less than an hour later, I sent a message to them regarding the grievances and complaints about the Identity confirmation and they were able to reply immediately.  So that's it, I asked them why we almost received this pop-up when opening their site that previously had an account and what was the real reason. I also mentioned those who provided fake info.

And here is the answer:
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This is a regulatory requirement and is standard operation procedure. I cannot speak to other accounts but they may not have been asked for it if they had it filled in already, or other cases, but we cannot provide information regarding other accounts.
 
As far as fake information being used, action will be taken in those cases.
Best Regards,
The Roobet Team
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Nice. But can you please also quote what you asked them, I can't comprehend well the question that you've asked them based on your opening statement. As I understand about the issue, not everyone has this KYC form pop up when opening their accounts... am I right?
Oh well, not yet visiting any gambling site recently, busy on other tasks. Gonna look at my account sooner.

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 #2432

Nice. But can you please also quote what you asked them, I can't comprehend well the question that you've asked them based on your opening statement. As I understand about the issue, not everyone has this KYC form pop up when opening their accounts... am I right?
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Okay, no problem.  I just attached the screenshot of our full convo recently.



So, it's really for all their players.  Whether you are a small or big gambler you need to undergo this step to be able to continue accessing the site again.  Maybe other pop-ups that haven't appeared yet will have that as well, maybe it's just a delay.  It can't be otherwise

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April 24, 2021, 12:24:20 PM
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As I read on Reddit, there are a number of players from restricted countries on Roobet (against to the terms of use as already posted).

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Restricted Areas:
Absolut restricted Areas
People living or having a permanent or temporary residence in any of these countries are not entitled to register an account or access the website in any way:

Australia, Cyprus, Isle of Men, Austria, Bonaire, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Aruba, Belize, France, Curacao, the Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St. Maarten, Singapore, the United Kingdom, French Guiana, French Polynesia, Jersey, Luxembourg, Martinique, Reunion, Mayotte, Denmark, the USA, and any other jurisdiction that the Central Government of Curacao deems online gambling illegal. These shall include all the named Nations' Territories.

Residents from the before mentioned territories are prohibited from opening an account or in any way use or access the services or any other services offered by the company.

Any account accessing from a restricted area via a VPN or another method to hide his identity will be banned from the website and all services. Any Roobidos remaining in the Roobido-safe will be frozen indefinitely.
https://roobet.com/?modal=terms

Nowadays, anyone can easily mask their IP address and make it seem as though it originates from a country that isn't on the restricted list. It appears that Roobet was forced to implement a mandatory KYC Level 1 verification to discourage casino abuse. Although many people dislike it, especially in the crypto community, I'm not sure we can do anything about it.

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April 24, 2021, 01:11:03 PM
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In fact, I have never been in favor of KYC. I would never feel comfortable keeping my personal information stored on a gambling website. Naturally, no gambler will like it, especially in the case of gambling.

But in the case of Roobet, I have to think differently. I realized that no matter what happens, I will not be able to leave this platform in any way. In fact, I haven't had as much fun playing on any other casino as I did on Roobet. I like the House Edge a lot here, because no other casino has given me better returns like Roobet. I can guaranty that you will never get any online casino that will give you better RTP than Roobet.


Not the biggest fan of KYC myself (especially for crypto casinos) but I already play on some online fiat casinos and they always ask full identity checks, so this is not different. I trust Roobet enough to give my idendity also.

What concerns the RTP, Roobet offers a lot of 3rd party slots so RTP is determined by slot provider and that should be the same on most other websites.



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April 24, 2021, 07:29:04 PM
 #2435

As I read on Reddit, there are a number of players from restricted countries on Roobet (against to the terms of use as already posted).

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Restricted Areas:
Absolut restricted Areas
People living or having a permanent or temporary residence in any of these countries are not entitled to register an account or access the website in any way:

Australia, Cyprus, Isle of Men, Austria, Bonaire, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Aruba, Belize, France, Curacao, the Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St. Maarten, Singapore, the United Kingdom, French Guiana, French Polynesia, Jersey, Luxembourg, Martinique, Reunion, Mayotte, Denmark, the USA, and any other jurisdiction that the Central Government of Curacao deems online gambling illegal. These shall include all the named Nations' Territories.

Residents from the before mentioned territories are prohibited from opening an account or in any way use or access the services or any other services offered by the company.

Any account accessing from a restricted area via a VPN or another method to hide his identity will be banned from the website and all services. Any Roobidos remaining in the Roobido-safe will be frozen indefinitely.
https://roobet.com/?modal=terms

Nowadays, anyone can easily mask their IP address and make it seem as though it originates from a country that isn't on the restricted list. It appears that Roobet was forced to implement a mandatory KYC Level 1 verification to discourage casino abuse. Although many people dislike it, especially in the crypto community, I'm not sure we can do anything about it.
We are forced to do KYC 1 whatever it is because this has become a permanent place in Roobet and with a prohibited country I think this has to be careful with this VPN it can cause unlimited fund freezes, meaning we don't know how long this can be released if at this time happen to you.
Indeed, hiding IP is very dangerous because it will be very suspicious if things like this I thought a lot before I also use VPN, I will still let go and use it without VPN.

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April 24, 2021, 07:29:57 PM
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Have anyone else tried to reach out to Roobet's support email regarding this KYC issue?  Well, less than an hour later, I sent a message to them regarding the grievances and complaints about the Identity confirmation and they were able to reply immediately.  So that's it, I asked them why we almost received this pop-up when opening their site that previously had an account and what was the real reason. I also mentioned those who provided fake info.

And here is the answer:
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This is a regulatory requirement and is standard operation procedure. I cannot speak to other accounts but they may not have been asked for it if they had it filled in already, or other cases, but we cannot provide information regarding other accounts.
 
As far as fake information being used, action will be taken in those cases.
Best Regards,
The Roobet Team

I also told them that they will provide an update here in their thread to clarify everything because it happened suddenly and we did not receive any details before they implemented it.
Honestly I think it is obvious that they are going more legit, with this much millions of dollars being some cayman islands or curacao type of deal doesn't look proper, it looks like it is going to be hard and difficult to keep themselves safe in that situation and you may face a lot of trouble when you are deep in illegal or gray zone.

However with these KYC things and more professional and legal stuff in more trustworthy spaces (like maybe malta) they will be a lot better and they will be capable of letting people gamble while having a trust themselves as well, remember license is not only important for the gambler, it is important for the casino as well and that is why it matters. KYC is just one step and it is probably the only step that will bother us, aside from that it will be all roobet and paper work they will have to do and eventually I am sure it will be there.

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April 24, 2021, 07:35:38 PM
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We are forced to do KYC 1 whatever it is because this has become a permanent place in Roobet and with a prohibited country I think this has to be careful with this VPN it can cause unlimited fund freezes, meaning we don't know how long this can be released if at this time happen to you.
Indeed, hiding IP is very dangerous because it will be very suspicious if things like this I thought a lot before I also use VPN, I will still let go and use it without VPN.
I registered using my IP, and played using that. But there was this time that I started playing with the use of VPN for the contest that they held on games and rounds. I'm thinking if I should continue or stop using VPN to access other slot games that I want to play. Probably their system detected some malicous signal from accounts so they implemented a KYC to fight it.

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We are forced to do KYC 1 whatever it is because this has become a permanent place in Roobet and with a prohibited country I think this has to be careful with this VPN it can cause unlimited fund freezes, meaning we don't know how long this can be released if at this time happen to you.
Indeed, hiding IP is very dangerous because it will be very suspicious if things like this I thought a lot before I also use VPN, I will still let go and use it without VPN.
I registered using my IP, and played using that. But there was this time that I started playing with the use of VPN for the contest that they held on games and rounds. I'm thinking if I should continue or stop using VPN to access other slot games that I want to play. Probably their system detected some malicous signal from accounts so they implemented a KYC to fight it.
You must stop using VPN on roobet, since it's forbidden to ise VPN on Roobet according their ToS unless you have completed the KYC tier 1 when you have filled the country and your address on there
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April 24, 2021, 08:12:22 PM
 #2439

I registered using my IP, and played using that. But there was this time that I started playing with the use of VPN for the contest that they held on games and rounds. I'm thinking if I should continue or stop using VPN to access other slot games that I want to play. Probably their system detected some malicous signal from accounts so they implemented a KYC to fight it.
You shouldn't use a VPN for any reason, please read the Roobet ToS excerpt below. If you don't verify the first stage of KYC, you have broken the rule. This mean accessing Roobet from TOR Browser may also not be allowed.
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You warrant not to use any form of VPN or other methods or program fit to hide your IP or your state of origin unless you went through full ID and address verification as described in our KYC-AML-Policy under AML 1 Verification.

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April 24, 2021, 09:06:05 PM
 #2440

I registered using my IP, and played using that. But there was this time that I started playing with the use of VPN for the contest that they held on games and rounds. I'm thinking if I should continue or stop using VPN to access other slot games that I want to play. Probably their system detected some malicous signal from accounts so they implemented a KYC to fight it.
You shouldn't use a VPN for any reason, please read the Roobet ToS excerpt below. If you don't verify the first stage of KYC, you have broken the rule. This mean accessing Roobet from TOR Browser may also not be allowed.
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You warrant not to use any form of VPN or other methods or program fit to hide your IP or your state of origin unless you went through full ID and address verification as described in our KYC-AML-Policy under AML 1 Verification.

This is one of the problem of other gambler they didn't read the rules and think that its ok to use VPN, but now since all clarified I think more people englightined up about this VPN things so best for those who use this not to activate that unless they are willing to risk their money.   But if KYC ask for verification well there's nothing to be afraid of since Roobet is good site, I know many people doesn't like KYC but lets put a weight on it on case to case basis.

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