[List] Gift cards providers

[OmegaStarScream]

Service name

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Ann thread?

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Available gift cards

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Supported coins

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Registration required?

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Can Top-up phone?

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Sell crypto to fiat?

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KYC Policy

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⚡ Bitrefill

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Representative profile

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Over 2500

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BTC, LTC, DASH, ETH, Dogecoin

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No

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Yes

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Yes

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Your balance must not exceed 10,000$

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⚡ Coinsbee

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Link

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Over 4000

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Many

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No

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Yes

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Yes

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15,000€ Total

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⚡ Coincards

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Link

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US (+100) | CA (+300)

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BTC, ETH & XMR

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No

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No

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No

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Unknown daily limits

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eGifter

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No

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+250

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BTC, BCH, DASH & LTC

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No

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No

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No

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10,000$ in total

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Gyft

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No

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+200

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BTC

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Yes

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No

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No

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2,000$/day

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⚡ GiftOff

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No

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UK & Europe (+190)

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BTC, ETH, BCH and DASH

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Yes

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No

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No

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No limits

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CardCash

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No

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+1100

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BTC

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Yes

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No

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No

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You can be asked at any time

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Bidali

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No

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160

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Many

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No

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Yes

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No

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Verification required

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CryptoRefills

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No

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+100

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7

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No

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Yes

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No

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2,000 EUR/ month

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Addn.io

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Yes

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+50

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Bitcoin and fiat

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No

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No

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No

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N/A

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I'm not affiliated with any of these services. I can, however, vouch for Bitrefill, I have been using them for about 1-2 years now and I had nothing but smooth transactions. The same thing with Coinsbee (new service), I have used them a few times and I have no complaints.

If you have any other services, please list them below while providing the necessary info (if possible).

Additional notes regarding some of these websites:

- Coinsbee also sells prepaid MasterCard (VCC's). You can use them on websites that don't accept BTC directly.
- Bitrefill allows you to withdraw your funds from the site if you ever deposit and change your mind.

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[shield132]

Maybe purse.io can be included there, I know it isn't gift card provider but at some point you can pay with crypto and buy things on amazon, instead of buying dedicated gift card, you buy item and pay with discount. Idk, it's your choice.
Btw I have one question, for example imagine that I want to buy something from sephora and receive that item in America but they don't accept cards from my country (repeat again, for example), so I can't buy item. By purchasing Sephora's gift card, am I capable to buy item that way or still they need some information on my card and billing address? Or gift card and shipping address will complete this task?

[figmentofmyass]

i've been using gyft since 2013 and egifter since 2017. those are my go-to gift card malls. i've never experienced a single problem with either site. egifter also provides discounts depending on payment method---for example, it's 2.5% off uber eats cards when you pay with crypto.

since both sites pulled amazon.com gift cards, i had to look elsewhere for them. one option is the bitpay wallet, which has a built in gift card mall. i've used it dozens of times without issue, but one time i had a frustrating issue where a card wasn't delivered and it took a week to resolve.

after that experience, i started using bitrefill for amazon.com gift cards. they are unfortunately the most expensive option by far. they charge an extra 2% on everything. they do have the added bonus of processing with zero confirmations (make sure not to use RBF though!) if you pay with 6+ sat/byte fee rate, so i always use them when i'm in a hurry. however, i'm getting sick of being overcharged every time so i might go back to the bitpay wallet.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Coinsbee also sells prepaid MasterCard (VCC's). You can use them on websites that don't accept BTC directly.

Interesting. I've never heard of this site before. Do they sell any physical cards or top up vouchers for physical cards, or is it only virtual cards? Can anyone vouch for Coinsbee?

i've never experienced a single problem with either site.

That's good to know. I've been aware of both those sites for a while now but have never tried either, partly because I wasn't sure if they were tried and tested and partly because I've always had great service from Bitrefill. I'll give them a closer look now though, especially if they are cheaper for some cards.

[LeGaulois]

@o_e_l_e_o

I can vouch for Coinsbee. I'm using it regularly to buy different cards, since the site has been launched, and well, no problem, It works very well as advertised. Too bad I missed the black Friday they had a 10% discount :/
Half of my furniture has been paid with gift cards from Coinsbee. (All I need now is the heating (now that I have electricity)  )

And nope, it's only VCCs.


@shield132
You don't need to provide your debit card details to Sephora if you're paying with a gift card, you need to give your personal information (if you want to receive the item of course)


@OmegaStarScream
Do you know something about the KYC with Bitrefill? We were talking about it in the French forum and a member showed us that the site has a KYC for amounts above $1500.
However, we tried to buy a gift card from lastminutes.com for a value of $4000 and nothing was specified about it. So there is a KYC or not?

[o_e_l_e_o]

Do you know something about the KYC with Bitrefill?

I've never heard of verification being needed with Bitrefill. I've easily spent well over $1,500 there, although admittedly never in a single transaction. I know that verification is required for using more than $1,000 of FastBitcoins vouchers, which is specified here: https://www.bitrefill.com/fastbitcoins/. You also require verification if spending more than $1,000 directly from Bitfinex, as specified here: https://support.bitfinex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360039873813-Understanding-Bitrefill. I can't find any mention of KYC or verification being needed for any other reason, though.

[SFR10]

If you have any other services, please list them below while providing the necessary info (if possible).

A few more ^{[I prefer not to vouch for any of the following but I've seen a few good reviews]}:

Service name	|	Ann thread?	|	Available gift cards	|	Supported coins	|	Registration required?	|	Can Top-up phone?	|
⚡ GiftOff	|	No	|	UK & Europe (+190)	|	BTC, ETH, BCH and DASH	|	Yes	|	No	|
CardCash	|	No	|	+1100	|	BTC	|	Yes	|	No	|

[gentlemand]

Bitpay's wallet now offers in wallet gift cards. I'm in the UK and they did only offer Amazon.com gift cards. Now there's plenty of them. I guess it's going to vary as to your location.

I notice they're also offering a Mastercard digital gift card for set amounts like the other place mentioned. I've never heard of this before. Must be a new thing.

[OmegaStarScream]

Btw I have one question, for example imagine that I want to buy something from sephora and receive that item in America but they don't accept cards from my country (repeat again, for example), so I can't buy item. By purchasing Sephora's gift card, am I capable to buy item that way or still they need some information on my card and billing address? Or gift card and shipping address will complete this task?

A shipping address and a gift card should complete the task. If Sephora doesn't ship to your country, you could buy U.S gift card, redeem it, and buy/ship the items to Shipito.com (a service which gives you an address on the U.S. they accept BTC).

Interesting. I've never heard of this site before. Do they sell any physical cards or top up vouchers for physical cards, or is it only virtual cards? Can anyone vouch for Coinsbee?

I can vouch for them, I've used them multiple times. As answered above, it's only VCCs. It works like this:

1. You pay for the card on their site.
2. They send you a digital token
3. You redeem it on prepaiddigitalsolutions.com (you must fill name, address, phone, and email).
4. You'll be redirected to a page with your card details (Number, expiration date and CVV).

Do you know something about the KYC with Bitrefill? We were talking about it in the French forum and a member showed us that the site has a KYC for amounts above $1500.
However, we tried to buy a gift card from lastminutes.com for a value of $4000 and nothing was specified about it. So there is a KYC or not?

I'm sure I've spent more than 1500$ (Lifetime), but I'll DM them on Twitter and also P.M the representative on the forums to get a confirmation.

-snip-

Thank you! Added to the list.

Bitpay's wallet now offers in wallet gift cards. I'm in the UK and they did only offer Amazon.com gift cards. Now there's plenty of them. I guess it's going to vary as to your location.

I notice they're also offering a Mastercard digital gift card for set amounts like the other place mentioned. I've never heard of this before. Must be a new thing.

since both sites pulled amazon.com gift cards, i had to look elsewhere for them. one option is the bitpay wallet, which has a built in gift card mall. i've used it dozens of times without issue, but one time i had a frustrating issue where a card wasn't delivered and it took a week to resolve.

Thank you! I will look more into BitPay and add it.

[gentlemand]

after that experience, i started using bitrefill for amazon.com gift cards. they are unfortunately the most expensive option by far. they charge an extra 2% on everything. they do have the added bonus of processing with zero confirmations (make sure not to use RBF though!) if you pay with 6+ sat/byte fee rate, so i always use them when i'm in a hurry. however, i'm getting sick of being overcharged every time so i might go back to the bitpay wallet.

I've noticed this too after using them. As far as I know they are the one and only gift card provider that sticks a premium on top though I guess almost all others use Bitpay's exchange rate. It kind of negates the point. If you have a decent exchange you may as well use that as it'll almost certainly be cheaper than 2%.

For another 0.5% I can use a Coinbase debit card which leaves me with money to spend elsewhere should I wish it. I'd choose that instead.

[leowonderful]

One thing to note about eGifter if you're just looking for places that sell Amazon gift cards is that the site only accepts full payment in eGifter points for them, which you can only acquire from buying other cards on their site. It wasn't always like this and I used to buy AGCs pretty often from the site, but I figured it's something important to know. Seems like Amazon's the only gift card that you can only buy with site points on eGifter, though, and I've bought a few thousand dollars from the site over the years with very few issues.

[figmentofmyass]

after that experience, i started using bitrefill for amazon.com gift cards. they are unfortunately the most expensive option by far. they charge an extra 2% on everything.

I've noticed this too after using them. As far as I know they are the one and only gift card provider that sticks a premium on top though I guess almost all others use Bitpay's exchange rate. It kind of negates the point. If you have a decent exchange you may as well use that as it'll almost certainly be cheaper than 2%.

they do offer a 2% discount for using LN.

that doesn't offer much consolation though. i can't be bothered with LN at this point. steep learning curve, alpha or early beta wallets with risk of losing funds.....or otherwise you need to use a custodial wallet. no thanks.

CardCash

i've used cardcash a dozen or so times. i had a couple bad experiences where they sent an e-card with a $0 balance (were probably fraudulent). they covered them under their 45-day guarantee but it took some back-and-forth with support. bitpay refunds can be a hassle.

i'm now kinda paranoid about buying secondhand digital cards. i mostly use cardcash for physical gas cards (chevron, mobil, etc) now. those never give me problems.

there's a 2% discount for using bitcoin, which is nice.

[Krislaw]

I  can't vouch for bitrefill here because a friend of mine (from another country) purchased a voucher code for an online local shopping website and the voucher happened to be an invalid one. The support is yet to give him a feedback since then. It is better to purchase popular cards there instead of local ones.

[figmentofmyass]

i've been using gyft since 2013 and egifter since 2017. those are my go-to gift card malls. i've never experienced a single problem with either site. egifter also provides discounts depending on payment method---for example, it's 2.5% off uber eats cards when you pay with crypto.

i guess this is what i get for speaking so highly of egifter......

for the first time, they screwed up delivering a gift card tonight. the payment confirmed on the blockchain, the order shows as completed, but the gift card didn't show up in my wallet. let's see how many days it takes them to fix this. this shit always seems to happen to me on friday nights.

come to think of it, bitpay payments have become slightly wonky on egifter lately. it used to be like clockwork---one confirmation and the gift card would appear in my wallet. for the past month or so, there's usually been an unpredictable delay. after block confirmation, sometimes it comes after 1 minute, sometimes after 8 minutes, etc. but it was never much bother before. this is the first time a gift card never showed up at all.

[th3nolo]

Interesting. I've never heard of this site before. Do they sell any physical cards or top up vouchers for physical cards, or is it only virtual cards? Can anyone vouch for Coinsbee?

I can vouch for them, I've used them multiple times. As answered above, it's only VCCs. It works like this:

1. You pay for the card on their site.
2. They send you a digital token
3. You redeem it on prepaiddigitalsolutions.com (you must fill name, address, phone, and email).
4. You'll be redirected to a page with your card details (Number, expiration date and CVV).

A few days ago I was looking for a VCCs service and it seems Coinsbee fulfills all my requirements, but I have one question left.
Do you know if these VCCs works from Venezuela?  I mean can I give my Venezuela address?

[LeGaulois]

Interesting. I've never heard of this site before. Do they sell any physical cards or top up vouchers for physical cards, or is it only virtual cards? Can anyone vouch for Coinsbee?

I can vouch for them, I've used them multiple times. As answered above, it's only VCCs. It works like this:

1. You pay for the card on their site.
2. They send you a digital token
3. You redeem it on prepaiddigitalsolutions.com (you must fill name, address, phone, and email).
4. You'll be redirected to a page with your card details (Number, expiration date and CVV).

A few days ago I was looking for a VCCs service and it seems Coinsbee fulfills all my requirements, but I have one question left.
Do you know if these VCCs works from Venezuela?  I mean can I give my Venezuela address?

I wanted to reply it works everywhere VISA is accepted bro. Unless Visa is not working in your country because it's banned or whatever you won't have any problem. But I found this message, which makes me doubt now

Y también nos bloqueo #prepaiddigitalsolutions no se pueden agregar códigos desde Venezuela. Entonces las restrinciones son para el gobierno o para los venezolanos

https://twitter.com/moisesgomezd/status/1183075733268303873

I don't hablamos espagnol muy bien so not sure to have understood correctly

[ChuckBuck]

Maybe WeGift  
I do not really use it, but I have a few friends who used to, and they said it was good. Also, I've seen it on social media, I don't remember it well, it seems I've seen it on Medium. I will find the link to the article on Medium and will update later  
update
This is the link to introduce WeGift on Medium. I think it's safe, the article mentioned Coinbase cooperating with them. It also refers to a few other similar sites

A large number of bitcoin transactions are made thanks to the purchase of gift cards. They allow you to buy in most large stores and small local businesses both online and offline. Some services offer gift cards of various denominations — they can also be purchased for bitcoins. Among the most famous: eGifter, Gyft, Purse.io, Cryfter, Instagift, Yes to Bitcoins and the Fold App.

[Blitzboy]

I have some suggestions here, but I'm not sure it's all safe, actually, for me, I just read to knowing
1. Bidali: accept lots of cryptocurrencies
2. InstaGift: need to register
3. Bitcoin Gift Cards: accept BTC
4. Fold App: you can get a cup of coffee at Starbucks through it, I do not have information about it.

I also know a little bit about Paxful, but I won't recommend it here, because I saw an topic reporting it on this forum a few days ago.

[bitcoinVPSD]

Thank you, this topic is very necessary, I can access to the website that I need.

Maybe WeGift  

This is the right site for me, thank you again!

[OmegaStarScream]

A few days ago I was looking for a VCCs service and it seems Coinsbee fulfills all my requirements, but I have one question left.
Do you know if these VCCs works from Venezuela?  I mean can I give my Venezuela address?

I haven't noticed if Venezuela is listed there or not but I know that there is no kind of verification, only your email will be used later to send you a link to access your account.

You can ask Coinsbee just to be on the safe side: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182163.0

I also know a little bit about Paxful, but I won't recommend it here, because I saw an topic reporting it on this forum a few days ago.

The platfrom itself is reputable but since you're trading with other individuals, you could come across carders/scammers and because of that, I rather not list it here.

[bitrefill]

@o_e_l_e_o

@OmegaStarScream
Do you know something about the KYC with Bitrefill? We were talking about it in the French forum and a member showed us that the site has a KYC for amounts above $1500.
However, we tried to buy a gift card from lastminutes.com for a value of $4000 and nothing was specified about it. So there is a KYC or not?

Hello, you can check the daily limits in detail here https://www.bitrefill.com/terms

TLDR, you have a daily limit for Gift Cards of 2500 USD if you don't have an account with us, or 5000 USD if you do. Single orders cannot exceed 2000 USD. Limits can be rised upon customer verification.

[bitrefill]

after that experience, i started using bitrefill for amazon.com gift cards. they are unfortunately the most expensive option by far. they charge an extra 2% on everything. they do have the added bonus of processing with zero confirmations (make sure not to use RBF though!) if you pay with 6+ sat/byte fee rate, so i always use them when i'm in a hurry. however, i'm getting sick of being overcharged every time so i might go back to the bitpay wallet.

I've noticed this too after using them. As far as I know they are the one and only gift card provider that sticks a premium on top though I guess almost all others use Bitpay's exchange rate. It kind of negates the point. If you have a decent exchange you may as well use that as it'll almost certainly be cheaper than 2%.

For another 0.5% I can use a Coinbase debit card which leaves me with money to spend elsewhere should I wish it. I'd choose that instead.

There are different strategies, we decided to compete based on service and global availability. However, we are constantly trying to get new sources and setting the lowest prices posible.

People that do not care to leak personal data, shopping with a debit card or buying Gift Cards from poor track record companies, are not our typical users.

[th3nolo]

I wanted to reply it works everywhere VISA is accepted bro. Unless Visa is not working in your country because it's banned or whatever you won't have any problem. But I found this message, which makes me doubt now

Y también nos bloqueo #prepaiddigitalsolutions no se pueden agregar códigos desde Venezuela. Entonces las restrinciones son para el gobierno o para los venezolanos

https://twitter.com/moisesgomezd/status/1183075733268303873

I don't hablamos espagnol muy bien so not sure to have understood correctly

Apparently, we are not allowed to use their services, I suppose that is due to the OFAC sanctions, although it seems very strange to me since "it is supposed" that the sanctions are for members of the regime of MADURO  and his government.

Although large financial institutions in the United States are allowed to do some operations with major public institutions in Venezuela, until 2020. As specified in the following license.

A few days ago I was looking for a VCCs service and it seems Coinsbee fulfills all my requirements, but I have one question left.
Do you know if these VCCs works from Venezuela?  I mean can I give my Venezuela address?

I haven't noticed if Venezuela is listed there or not but I know that there is no kind of verification, only your email will be used later to send you a link to access your account.

You can ask Coinsbee just to be on the safe side: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182163.0

I didn't know they had a topic in the forum, I asked them already, I will wait for their answer, although that escapes their hands because it seems Prepaiddigitalsolutions is the one who has the final decision.

[Blitzboy]

The platfrom itself is reputable but since you're trading with other individuals, you could come across carders/scammers and because of that, I rather not list it here.

I saw a guy accusing that paxful was not clean. He was denied payment of 0.4 BTC and when he requested support he was denied. The topic is located here
I'm not sure what he said is true, because he has no evidence, but with the information you give, it is not secure, there is always a risk of losing money anytime.

[Coinsbee.com]

I wanted to reply it works everywhere VISA is accepted bro. Unless Visa is not working in your country because it's banned or whatever you won't have any problem. But I found this message, which makes me doubt now

Y también nos bloqueo #prepaiddigitalsolutions no se pueden agregar códigos desde Venezuela. Entonces las restrinciones son para el gobierno o para los venezolanos

https://twitter.com/moisesgomezd/status/1183075733268303873

I don't hablamos espagnol muy bien so not sure to have understood correctly

Apparently, we are not allowed to use their services, I suppose that is due to the OFAC sanctions, although it seems very strange to me since "it is supposed" that the sanctions are for members of the regime of MADURO  and his government.

Although large financial institutions in the United States are allowed to do some operations with major public institutions in Venezuela, until 2020. As specified in the following license.

A few days ago I was looking for a VCCs service and it seems Coinsbee fulfills all my requirements, but I have one question left.
Do you know if these VCCs works from Venezuela?  I mean can I give my Venezuela address?

I haven't noticed if Venezuela is listed there or not but I know that there is no kind of verification, only your email will be used later to send you a link to access your account.

You can ask Coinsbee just to be on the safe side: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182163.0

I didn't know they had a topic in the forum, I asked them already, I will wait for their answer, although that escapes their hands because it seems Prepaiddigitalsolutions is the one who has the final decision.

It should work. If the shop where u use the visa code deliver to Venezuela. But we didn't have a customer from Venezuela before.
We recommend you to do a "test" with a small amount.

[Coinsbee.com]

@o_e_l_e_o

I can vouch for Coinsbee. I'm using it regularly to buy different cards, since the site has been launched, and well, no problem, It works very well as advertised. Too bad I missed the black Friday they had a 10% discount :/
Half of my furniture has been paid with gift cards from Coinsbee. (All I need now is the heating (now that I have electricity)   )

And nope, it's only VCCs.


@shield132
You don't need to provide your debit card details to Sephora if you're paying with a gift card, you need to give your personal information (if you want to receive the item of course)


@OmegaStarScream
Do you know something about the KYC with Bitrefill? We were talking about it in the French forum and a member showed us that the site has a KYC for amounts above $1500.
However, we tried to buy a gift card from lastminutes.com for a value of $4000 and nothing was specified about it. So there is a KYC or not?

We are really happy to read that! Perhaps you can also pay your heating by using coinsbee.com. ;-)

[SFR10]

Can anyone check to see if "eGifter" is working on their side or it's only on mine?
^{- I'm getting a red "network error" warning (with or without a VPN) but IsItDownRightNow says it's up and running.}
Due to Coronavirus, I've been staying at home for more than a month already ^{[will probably be staying for another month or so]} and wanted to buy myself an Xbox ^{[I'm a PC person]} so I can play with my loved ones while hanging out in the living room and due to my current location, the only way for purchasing gift cards is this thread ^{[with the help of crypto payments]}. I noticed there is a warning in Bitrefill that says "gift code may only work in" certain countries and was wondering if anyone has tried using Bitrefill for purchasing Xbox codes from another country/region and successfully redeeming it ^{[coinsbee has different regions as well but not from where I am and some of the providers from the list have no warning about regions locks]}?

• I also read about a workaround ^{[changing location and trying again on xbox]} but based on comments, it didn't work for everyone.

[ChuckBuck]

Can anyone check to see if "eGifter" is working on their side or it's only on mine?
^{- I'm getting a red "network error" warning (with or without a VPN) but IsItDownRightNow says it's up and running.}

Tried to visit the site and found it was still available for me, meaning that the problem was on your side. But maybe because of the internet speed, 3 minutes have passed and I still cannot download their website   Or it could be an error on their part, but it looks different from your description. I can't be sure because the internet service provider recently announced that their international fiber optic cable was in trouble

I'm also very fed up with the epidemic, and i don't even use my PC to play games, i'm in a place other than my house   unable to move, inconvenience to discomfort  
Ahhhh, I realized that you need to buy a playstation gift card, I can provide it for you 

[gentlemand]

Can anyone check to see if "eGifter" is working on their side or it's only on mine?

All I'm getting are some spinning blue circles.

What country are you in?

Codes can be a lottery. I've seen people saying some worked and some didn't when they were in other countries. If you want a code to buy a whole machine then I wouldn't risk it.

Someone may have a suggestion that's not listed here. Or you could find a shipping forwarder or someone here to buy and send for you.

[OmegaStarScream]

Due to Coronavirus, I've been staying at home for more than a month already ^{[will probably be staying for another month or so]} and wanted to buy myself an Xbox ^{[I'm a PC person]} so I can play with my loved ones while hanging out in the living room and due to my current location, the only way for purchasing gift cards is this thread ^{[with the help of crypto payments]}. I noticed there is a warning in Bitrefill that says "gift code may only work in" certain countries and was wondering if anyone has tried using Bitrefill for purchasing Xbox codes from another country/region and successfully redeeming it ^{[coinsbee has different regions as well but not from where I am and some of the providers from the list have no warning about regions locks]}?

I bought Xbox GCs (EUR) from Bitrefill and gave them to friends who lives in North africa before, and they never had any issues redeeming them (Done that multiple times). All they needed to do was to change their region to 'France' using either the console or the app.

As for eGifter, it's working fine on my end but apparently, they're only selling U.S GCs.

[SFR10]

Tried to visit the site and found it was still available for me, meaning that the problem was on your side. But maybe because of the internet speed, 3 minutes have passed and I still cannot download their website   Or it could be an error on their part, but it looks different from your description. I can't be sure because the internet service provider recently announced that their international fiber optic cable was in trouble
https://i.imgur.com/jrLrFdC.png

All I'm getting are some spinning blue circles.

As for eGifter, it's working fine on my end but apparently, they're only selling U.S GCs.

Just checked and it appears they were in the middle of maintenance ^{[it loads normally now]}.

Ahhhh, I realized that you need to buy a playstation gift card, I can provide it for you  

I appreciate it but I will be looking ^{[probably next week]} at Xbox GCs ^{[not PS GCs]}

Codes can be a lottery. I've seen people saying some worked and some didn't when they were in other countries.

Indeed and that's my main concern...

If you want a code to buy a whole machine then I wouldn't risk it.

Someone may have a suggestion that's not listed here. Or you could find a shipping forwarder or someone here to buy and send for you.

No, not for the whole console. I'll be using it for purchasing games and for the console, I can buy it from an unofficial store ^{[unfortunately, due to sanctions we've got no official stores for any kind of American brand]}.

I bought Xbox GCs (EUR) from Bitrefill and gave them to friends who lives in North africa before, and they never had any issues redeeming them (Done that multiple times). All they needed to do was to change their region to 'France' using either the console or the app.

Thank you, that's a relief. Will probably do the same when I get my hands on my Xbox and Xbox GCs...
^{- Will probably post an update by next week or so.}
Thanks to all of you for responding fast, I appreciate it

[Coinsbee.com]

We also offer a wide range of X-Box vouchers here.
https://www.coinsbee.com/de/Xbox-bitcoin and X-box-live https://www.coinsbee.com/de/XboxLive-bitcoin

If you have any questions feel free to contact us vis support or here.

We wish u all a happy easter and keep healty!

[bitrefill]

The amount of cards for Bitrefill can be updated to 2500+ 

[OmegaStarScream]

Updates:

- Added a new column (Sell BTC to FIAT) since both Coinsbee and Bitrefill are now offering WebMoney, Yandex and QIWI.
- You can now top-up your phone using Coinsbee.
- CoinCards is now accessible from anywhere and you don't have to use a VPN anymore.
I'm planning to add information about the site's limits/KYC requirements soon, so if you have any info about that (I couldn't find much except for Coinsbee and Bitrefill), please let me know!

Also, does anyone know what happened to WeGift? Are they no longer offering gift cards to individuals?

[LeGaulois]

...I'm planning to add information about the site's limits/KYC requirements soon, so if you have any info about that (I couldn't find much except for Coinsbee and Bitrefill), please let me know!...
...
Also, does anyone know what happened to WeGift? Are they no longer offering gift cards to individuals?
...

Nope, by visiting their website they work only with businesses. The only thing I remember about providing gift cards to individuals is when it was possible at the time to link our Coinbase account to Wegift to convert cryptos into vouchers.
https://blog.coinbase.com/announcing-a-new-way-to-spend-your-coinbase-crypto-e-gift-cards-59687ff77c13
I remember trying but something was wrong, it ended quickly.

As for the limits and KYC

eGifter says:

The maximum amount that can be purchased by a single person across multiple gift cards is $10,000
The maximum amount that can be purchased by a single person for a single brand is $2,000

https://support.egifter.com/hc/en-us/articles/115010487747-Is-there-any-limitation-for-the-amount-I-can-purchase-

Gyft says:
 

The total/aggregate amount that you may load on one or multiple Gift Cards in a single day should not exceed $2,000.

https://www.gyft.com/terms-of-sale/

GiftOff says:

Orders of any size are welcome

https://giftoff.com/faq

Bidali says:

Prior to a customer being able to perform a transaction using Bidali's products or services, Bidali must identify the customer, known as Know Your Customer ("KYC"), in accordance with applicable regulations. Bidali has a policy which requires all customers to be "verified" prior to being able to accept any form of transactions through our platform

https://www.bidali.com/policies/aml

Restrict the value of each card to a maximum of 2,000 in fiat denominated currency (USD, CAD, GBP, AUD, EUR); and
Restrict to a maximum of 9,500 in fiat denominated currency (USD, CAD, GBP, AUD, EUR), in either a single order or combined order value, within 24 hours.

6.6 https://www.bidali.com/policies/terms

[gentlemand]

As for the limits and KYC

It's possible the provider won't care but the payment processor will. Giftoff used to use Bitpay, not sure if they do now as they seem to have various providers, but I remember people talking about linking ID to Bitpay payments for larger amounts. Not sure if they actually implemented it.

[o_e_l_e_o]

but I remember people talking about linking ID to Bitpay payments for larger amounts. Not sure if they actually implemented it.

Yeah, they did. You can read here (about halfway down): https://bitpay.com/blog/bitpay-dashboard-id/ If you make a payment of more than the equivalent of $3,000 using BitPay, so around a third of a bitcoin in today's prices, you get asked for KYC.

I would suggest that if a merchant uses BitPay, then you choose a different merchant if at all possible, even if you don't trigger their KYC threshold. BitPay are anti-privacy and anti-bitcoin, and funded by known scammer Roger Ver. Do any of these gift card providers use BitPay? Gift cards in particular are one area where there is no shortage of merchants to choose from, so avoiding BitPay should be easy enough.

If a merchant you are using is using BitPay, ask them to look in to switching to BTCPay instead.

[bullrun2024bro]

What a nice thread @OmegaStarScream. Good job! Thanks again for your permission to translate your thread and post it on the German board. We got a few non English speakers there and I received feedback, that they really appreciated your thread.  

I am linking it here again, if thats okay: [Liste] Gutscheinanbieter für Bitcoins oder Altcoins - 04/2020


I also would like to add a quick review: I bought several gift cards via Bitrefill and Coinsbee (always 2 or 3 digit amounts) so far and never had a single problem. On Bitrefill it also worked to buy a non German gift card (since the shop somehow wasn't available on Bitrefill for German customers) and use it for the German online store. Pretty cool, actually.

Of course, the fees could be a little smaller, but I guess these companies also need to make some BTC.  

Keep up the good work everyone! Thumbs up!

[OmegaStarScream]

but I remember people talking about linking ID to Bitpay payments for larger amounts. Not sure if they actually implemented it.
Yeah, they did. You can read here (about halfway down): https://bitpay.com/blog/bitpay-dashboard-id/ If you make a payment of more than the equivalent of $3,000 using BitPay, so around a third of a bitcoin in today's prices, you get asked for KYC.

They also enforced KYC for refunds of 1000$ or higher. So if your payment doesn't go through for some reason, and they need to refund you, you will have to go through KYC.

Do any of these gift card providers use BitPay? Gift cards in particular are one area where there is no shortage of merchants to choose from, so avoiding BitPay should be easy enough.

I just tested them all:

- Bitrefill: Not using any third party to process their payments.
- Coinsbee: CoinGate
- CoinCards: BTCPayServer
- eGifter: Uses both BitPay and NetCents (You can choose)
- GiftOff: OpenNode
- Bidali: accepting payments directly.
- Gyft: BitPay

BitPay facilitate converting your BTC to fiat (withdrawals directly to your bank account) which in my opinion is why a lot of big names (like Namecheap, Shipito, Vultr, Scan UK) are still using it. So, if a merchant is not interested is hodling bitcoin, I doubt they would switch to BTCPay.

What a nice thread @OmegaStarScream. Good job! Thanks again for your permission to translate your thread and post it on the German board. We got a few non English speakers there and I received feedback, that they really appreciated your thread.  

I am linking it here again, if thats okay: [Liste] Gutscheinanbieter für Bitcoins oder Altcoins - 04/2020
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You're welcome. Don't forget to update it.

I also suggest adding the following info:

- Coinsbee is based in Germany (More german GCs compared to the other providers).
- They accept other payment methods: Cuneros (cuneros.de), klamm-Lose (klamm.de) and Primera (primeraportal.de).

[o_e_l_e_o]

BitPay facilitate converting your BTC to fiat (withdrawals directly to your bank account) which in my opinion is why a lot of big names (like Namecheap, Shipito, Vultr, Scan UK) are still using it. So, if a merchant is not interested is hodling bitcoin, I doubt they would switch to BTCPay.

It's a shame, but you are correct. Until there is a bigger push back from the community against merchants who continue to support anti-bitcoin companies like BitPay, then they will continue to use them just for their convenience. And given that there is generally a limited pool of merchants accepting bitcoin at all, then most users will continue to shop at those companies using BitPay because there are no alternatives.

It is possible to set up automatic fiat conversion with BTCPay, using automatic payment forwarding to an exchange, and then automatic selling on said exchange, but obviously that's considerable more work to set up than BitPay. There is a medium article about it here: https://medium.com/@prayankgahlot/instant-fiat-conversion-with-btcpay-1d2f3dd57352. BTCPay have said that automatic fiat conversion is on their roadmap, so hopefully once they implement that it will be easier to convince companies to stop using BitPay.

[bullrun2024bro]

You're welcome. Don't forget to update it.

I also suggest adding the following info:

- Coinsbee is based in Germany (More german GCs compared to the other providers).
- They accept other payment methods: Cuneros (cuneros.de), klamm-Lose (klamm.de) and Primera (primeraportal.de).

Thanks, I really appreciate it! I updated the German thread and added the additional information. Keep up the good work! Thumbs up!

[bitmover]

I was taking a look at those websites, specially coinbee which has the most options.

however, the conversion rate is terrible for BRL (Brazil currency). Uber gift cards are 38% more expensive than they should be. A 100 BRL card costs 138 BRL when converted from btc.

Bitrefill had a better rate, which costed "only" about 15% more.

Are you paying reasonable fees? Which website do you guys suggest for stuff like spotify??

[o_e_l_e_o]

Are you paying reasonable fees? Which website do you guys suggest for stuff like spotify??

That's probably a function of the country you live in as opposed to the individual sites themselves. On Bitrefill In the US for example, the mark up on gift cards is usually around 1-2%, and if you pay by Lightning for the 2% discount sometimes the card works out marginally cheaper than cost price. For example, a $500 Amazon card paid for via Lightning right now costs 5177711 sats, which works out at around $498.50. Having a quick look through the cards on offer in Brazil, as you say, the mark up is around 11%. I'm not aware of any gift card companies based in Brazil, but if you can find one they might offer better rates.

In terms of Spotify (I don't use it so don't know for sure) but does the gift card have to be region locked? You can't by a US gift card and use it on your account in Brazil?

[SFR10]

~Snipped~
Which website do you guys suggest for stuff like spotify??

Since you mentioned Brazil then based on the currently listed names on this thread, your only option is coinsbee ^{[couldn't find your region on other providers that offered spotify gift card]}.
^{Take note: I'm not vouching for them.}

In terms of Spotify (I don't use it so don't know for sure) but does the gift card have to be region locked? You can't by a US gift card and use it on your account in Brazil?

I'm also not a user of this service but based on the following line, looks like a region-locked case:

Spotify gift cards can only be redeemed on Spotify accounts registered in the same country where they were purchased.

[bitmover]

Yes  it is all region locked. Conversion rate is extremely abusive in all services es mentioned here... bitpay is the only one with reasonable conversion rate in my country... :/

I think it is better to sell in an exchange and use fiat than to pay 15_40% more or to use bitpay :/

[OmegaStarScream]

Updated OP (added the "KYC policy" field)

Yes  it is all region locked. Conversion rate is extremely abusive in all services es mentioned here... bitpay is the only one with reasonable conversion rate in my country... :/

I think it is better to sell in an exchange and use fiat than to pay 15_40% more or to use bitpay :/

Or, if you have a friend/relative with a U.S credit card/PayPal account, you could ask them to make an account for you, and it's possible to remove the linked payment method so there should be no trust issues.

[bitmover]

Or, if you have a friend/relative with a U.S credit card/PayPal account, you could ask them to make an account for you, and it's possible to remove the linked payment method so there should be no trust issues.

The problem is that the gift cards only work in the region they are redeemed. As my spotify account is from Brazil, I cant use a US gift card.

Are you suggesting that I Make a new spotify account to use gift card from US? Not worth the effort... it is a cheap service and I can just  pay with fiat... or use bitpay..

[ChuckBuck]

The problem is that the gift cards only work in the region they are redeemed. As my spotify account is from Brazil, I cant use a US gift card.
Are you suggesting that I Make a new spotify account to use gift card from US? Not worth the effort... it is a cheap service and I can just  pay with fiat... or use bitpay..

Not really, many gift cards still work in every region of the world. Although they state that gift cards only work in some areas, in fact, if you try it still works in other areas. I can take Steam and Google Play for example. You can use it anywhere  For a few others, you can change the region to use. I don't see much difficulty in the problem you are describing. Anyway, it is your problem, OmegaStarScream is only showing you a way to do it.

[bitmover]

Although they state that gift cards only work in some areas, in fact, if you try it still works in other areas.

I can try with no guarantees and I will probably just lose money, buying a useless gift card which cannot be redeemed in my country.

I can take Steam and Google Play for example. You can use it anywhere  

Those gift cards are not even region locked LOL. They are not even stated to be region locked.

Google Pay for example use this region lock functionality in the google accounts themselves. I see different apps in my Play Store than you, with different prices.

For a few others, you can change the region to use.

You can change the region of a google account a lose much more than what you would possible  save. I wouldn't be to install local apps, such as bike rentals, local stores that gives discounts, and so on. I have tried it already.

I don't want to delete my spotify account and create a new one to pay 3usd per month. Not worth the effort.
A netflix account from another region would change its language. I would have to watch movies without subtitles , permanently use a VPN...

You think that's is a smart solution, but the solution would cause bigger problems than the original problem.

I don't see much difficulty in the problem you are describing.

You don't see difficult in the problem because you don't have it, probably because you live in a rich country which is much more free than Brazil.

The reason why region locks exists is that those gift cards are usually much more expensive here, due to taxes and fees.

But I would like to hear what @bitrefill have to say about 15-40% extra price in bitcoin in Brazil. Probably it is due to taxes and fees also, but maybe they are just ignoring Brazil?

[OmegaStarScream]

The problem is that the gift cards only work in the region they are redeemed. As my spotify account is from Brazil, I cant use a US gift card.

Are you suggesting that I Make a new spotify account to use gift card from US? Not worth the effort... it is a cheap service and I can just  pay with fiat... or use bitpay..

I suggested asking a friend/relative as I don't think that making a new account yourself would help... Because apparently, it's possible to change your location to another country if you have a payment method from that same country and with such a restriction, I doubt they would just allow you to make a new account to redeem GCs without verifying your location by linking a credit card but yes, I agree, I don't think its worth it if you can easily change your BTC to fiat.

But I would like to hear what @bitrefill have to say about 15-40% extra price in bitcoin in Brazil. Probably it is due to taxes and fees also, but maybe they are just ignoring Brazil?

DM them on Twitter, they are very responsive.

[ChuckBuck]

I bought Xbox GCs (EUR) from Bitrefill and gave them to friends who lives in North africa before, and they never had any issues redeeming them (Done that multiple times). All they needed to do was to change their region to 'France' using either the console or the app.

Does anyone have experience using the Playstation Gift Card? To be honest, I haven't had the chance to use it in different region yet. Playstation limits usage region for gift cards (as i know). If we change regions, can we use Gift cards from other regions? Like the way described above of OmegaStarscream, is it available with the Playstation? I need to use it and I think I need your opinion before doing something stupid 

[OmegaStarScream]

Does anyone have experience using the Playstation Gift Card? To be honest, I haven't had the chance to use it in different region yet. Playstation limits usage region for gift cards (as i know). If we change regions, can we use Gift cards from other regions? Like the way described above of OmegaStarscream, is it available with the Playstation? I need to use it and I think I need your opinion before doing something stupid  

According to this, you can't change your region but it should be possible to redeem the cards if you just make a new account.

[ChuckBuck]

According to this, you can't change your region but it should be possible to redeem the cards if you just make a new account.

Wow, it really is a great solution to use these gift cards   I am considering to use it in the future  
But the way other game providers work, purchased games are only available on the accounts that bought it, we can't use them with other accounts. But in the link you provided, they said we can switch to the original account, how is it available? It was not checked?  

[SFR10]

I just noticed that "CoinPayments" has the option of selling gift cards to its users...
^{- Since it wasn't launched recently, I'm wondering if anyone has any experience of purchasing gift cards there?}

[o_e_l_e_o]

I just noticed that "CoinPayments" has the option of selling gift cards to its users.

Yeah. You can see their list of cards here: https://www.coinpayments.net/swych. So far it is US and UK only. For the US at least they have a decent list of cards available, but they are all the same ones that you can find on Bitrefill, eGifter, Coincards, etc.

However, to buy cards from them you need to have a KYC verified account. Given that all the cards (I think) they provide are purchasable from other providers without KYC, there is no real reason to use them unless you already have a KYC verified account on their platform for other reasons.

Since I don't have an account with them I can't see the prices they are charging, and therefore their markup.

[OmegaStarScream]

Promotions:

- Bitrefill: 30% off for PlayStation Plus (12Months)
- Coinsbee: A huge discount for Orange's phone recharge (France only)

Wow, it really is a great solution to use these gift cards   I am considering to use it in the future  
But the way other game providers work, purchased games are only available on the accounts that bought it, we can't use them with other accounts. But in the link you provided, they said we can switch to the original account, how is it available? It was not checked?  

I'm not that familiar with PSN but I'm pretty sure this is not something they missed.

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I will add it to the OP, thanks!

[bitmover]

Does anyone have experience using the Playstation Gift Card? To be honest, I haven't had the chance to use it in different region yet. Playstation limits usage region for gift cards (as i know). If we change regions, can we use Gift cards from other regions? Like the way described above of OmegaStarscream, is it available with the Playstation? I need to use it and I think I need your opinion before doing something stupid  

According to this, you can't change your region but it should be possible to redeem the cards if you just make a new account.

I can confirm this. You can make a new USA account on the same device ( i have one).
Once your USA account has PSN Plus registered you can use PSN Plus benefits (such as online playing and free games) in your main account from other region as long as both accounts are logged in in the same device.

However, all free games will be linked to your USA account, not in your main account.

[ChuckBuck]

I'm not that familiar with PSN but I'm pretty sure this is not something they missed.

However, all free games will be linked to your USA account, not in your main account.

Ahaa, meaning they allow one person to own multiple accounts. And you can buy the game with a different account, as long as you install the game on the same device, you can use any other account to play. Interesting   A good opportunity to use their gift cards even in different areas   thank you!

[bullrun2024bro]

Do you guys have any idea why most gift cards for Germany are currently out of stock (e.g. IKEA, Nike, Saturn, Cyberport, Cineplex, Decathlon and many more)? I wanted to do some online shopping today, but unfortunately the gift cards I were looking for, were all out of stock.

Any information when those will be available again (especially IKEA, Saturn and Cyberport) @bitrefill?  

[OmegaStarScream]

Do you guys have any idea why most gift cards for Germany are currently out of stock (e.g. IKEA, Nike, Saturn, Cyberport, Cineplex, Decathlon and many more)? I wanted to do some online shopping today, but unfortunately the gift cards I were looking for, were all out of stock.

Any information when those will be available again (especially IKEA, Saturn and Cyberport) @bitrefill?  

From what I can see, it's not only Germany, but almost all european countries.  For nike (or clothing brands in general), take a look at ASOS, you can ship worldwide for cheap. The card on Bitrefill says UK, but it should work everywhere.

Also, Bitrefill reprensetative is not really active here on the forum, so I'd suggest reaching out to the support, you'll get a faster answer.

[bullrun2024bro]

Also, Bitrefill reprensetative is not really active here on the forum, so I'd suggest reaching out to the support, you'll get a faster answer.

Thanks for the information. I contacted the Bitrefill Telegram support yesterday and they told me they are working on the "out-of-stock" issue. I checked the Bitrefill website today again and the gift cards were back in stock. That's good customer service.  

In addition to that, I really like the new "Bitrefill Rewards" feature. I got some nice cash-back today and used it on my second gift card. 

[ChuckBuck]

In addition to that, I really like the new "Bitrefill Rewards" feature. I got some nice cash-back today and used it on my second gift card. 

Do you have any problem using a gift card? Last week, I received a gift card through an offer, for only $ 10, I received the gift card code through my mail. It is an amazon gift card, I create a new account, then use it. The problem is that my account was banned immediately upon making an order  It was strange. I did not even have a chance to appeal. Usually, I will be asked to send proof to prove it is my gift card. But no, they just said that my account was banned due to suspicious activity and didn't have any items to appeal  I ignored it because it was only 10 dollars. What do you think of the gift card from the offer? Isn't it good?

[LeGaulois]

In addition to that, I really like the new "Bitrefill Rewards" feature. I got some nice cash-back today and used it on my second gift card.  

Do you have any problem using a gift card? Last week, I received a gift card through an offer, for only $ 10, I received the gift card code through my mail. It is an amazon gift card, I create a new account, then use it. The problem is that my account was banned immediately upon making an order   It was strange. I did not even have a chance to appeal. Usually, I will be asked to send proof to prove it is my gift card. But no, they just said that my account was banned due to suspicious activity and didn't have any items to appeal   I ignored it because it was only 10 dollars. What do you think of the gift card from the offer? Isn't it good?

It's something happening frequently with Amazon, I even remember a topic not long ago with the same problem as you with Bitrefill. Try to contact Bitrefill to explain, the guy was able to recover his account and gift card after doing it.

A similar story happened to me too after using a Visa gift card, they were dumb enough to ask me a bank statement from the previous month and showing the card numbers

[ChuckBuck]

It's something happening frequently with Amazon, I even remember a topic not long ago with the same problem as you with Bitrefill. Try to contact Bitrefill to explain, the guy was able to recover his account and gift card after doing it.

A similar story happened to me too after using a Visa gift card, they were dumb enough to ask me a bank statement from the previous month and showing the card numbers

Other than that, I didn't buy it from Bitrefill, I got it from a payment app, it's like promotion. I used that payment service many times, I had enough points to earn $ 10  It took a long time  I want to mention that Amazon did not allow me to appeal to unlock accounts or recover money  they just said it was a suspicious act, and they rejected it  groundless, without appeal, looks like a scam  I wonder what people will do with larger amounts 

[bullrun2024bro]

Other than that, I didn't buy it from Bitrefill, I got it from a payment app, it's like promotion. I used that payment service many times, I had enough points to earn $ 10  It took a long time  I want to mention that Amazon did not allow me to appeal to unlock accounts or recover money  they just said it was a suspicious act, and they rejected it  groundless, without appeal, looks like a scam  I wonder what people will do with larger amounts 

I never had any issues with Amazon gift cards so far, but I am also not creating new accounts. In addition to that all Bitrefill gift cards worked fine for me so far. The only issue I had, was that IKEA gift cards need 24h to get active (the support told me it's some kind of IKEA policy).

[OmegaStarScream]

Other than that, I didn't buy it from Bitrefill, I got it from a payment app, it's like promotion. I used that payment service many times, I had enough points to earn $ 10  It took a long time  I want to mention that Amazon did not allow me to appeal to unlock accounts or recover money  they just said it was a suspicious act, and they rejected it  groundless, without appeal, looks like a scam  I wonder what people will do with larger amounts 

AFAIK, that means that the gift card was not obtained legitimately. Can't you ask the app's support for the source of their cards?
Update (from Bidali's newsletter):

- More than 300 brands have been added (Turkey, India, Germany, France, and a few other countries).
- Reduced confirmation times (I'm not sure how much they used to be).
- You can now pay using HUSD (Huobi's stablecoin).

[ChuckBuck]

AFAIK, that means that the gift card was not obtained legitimately. Can't you ask the app's support for the source of their cards?

I didn't know how they could handle it, I didn't ask for support because it was quite annoying  Just $10, so I ignore it. But it would be surprising if it was not legal. Because it is one of the most popular online payment applications here and very reputable. I thought it was an Amazon problem, because they didn't give me an item to appeal. Usually, if the gift card is dirty, they will ask the user to send an invoice or proof to prove the legal, in this case it is not 

[ChuckBuck]

Are you looking for an inexpensive gift? My belongings were to give various collectibles. The main benefit of such gifts is their property to raise the price over time, and it can also be a great hobby to collect a large collection. A good and reliable site to buy tested coins is UC coins, learn more here https://uc-coins.com/coins-by-country/usa.html.

Personally, I don't like this type of advertising from you, it is going wrong, this topic is about the gift card and its suppliers. If you really want to provide it, if you really want it to be used by a lot of people, you should have a specific topic to promote your service, don't go around and post like this. It sounds like you mentioned UC coin, so I think it might be in the service discussion (altcoin).
Anyone know of Razer's gift card website? It's razer gold. I need it cheaply, but I rarely see anyone selling them 

[SFR10]

Anyone know of Razer's gift card website? It's razer gold. I need it cheaply, but I rarely see anyone selling them 

From the current list, 4 out of 8 are selling Razer Gold gift cards:
^{- If you're looking for a price cheaper than the following websites, I wouldn't advise looking through the forum for a cheaper seller since a lot of them are scammers.}

• Bitrefill
  

  https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/razer-gold-usa/?hl=en

• Bidali
  

  https://giftcards.bidali.com/brands/united-states/razer-gold-rixty-us

• CardCash
  

  https://www.cardcash.com/buy-gift-cards/discount-razer-gold-cards/

• eGifter
  

  https://www.egifter.com/giftcards/razer-gold-gift-card

[OmegaStarScream]

From the current list, 4 out of 8 are selling Razer Gold gift cards:
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Coinsbee has them too (both U.S and EUR cards): https://www.coinsbee.com/en/Razer-bitcoin
For those interested in topping-up their phone, it seems like Coinsbee has added many more operators and countries.

[ChuckBuck]

^{- If you're looking for a price cheaper than the following websites, I wouldn't advise looking through the forum for a cheaper seller since a lot of them are scammers.}

Yes, I need it at a cheaper price than the websites here, buying with BTC does not seem to be a good idea because the transaction fee is quite expensive   Unlike amazon gift cards, razer gold seems to be easy to use and has no limitations   I don't worry if I can meet the scammer, because I can use the escrow, but there is almost no guy who offers it   It is quite rare, not as common as steam

[ChuckBuck]

Hello, I'm here again to ask about what I intend to do   I plan to do business by buying goods from the US to my country. Cheap gift cards seem insecure, so I plan to use gift cards here to top up and buy things. Although the discount is only from 2-5%, but in business, it is good to make   But I wonder, will I be protected or refunded if my account is banned from using your gift card? To be clear, I will buy $ 600 gift card from Bitrefill, top up my account and buy, the account is not new, there was a successful transaction from 1 month ago. I don't know how it will go, but if in the worst case, if my account is banned or I lose that money, is Bitrefill responsible to help me get it back or refund me? It is necessary for me to start my business  
EDIT: LOL, I was wrong, Bitrefill only offers 1% discount on Amazon gift card 

[Fatemablabla]

Want to let you know all after reading this thread, I used the egifter.com for buying 10 google gift cards of 5USD each. I paid with bitcoin. But the best thing is my Browser extension Honey find me a coupon for the purchase and I used it. Got 10% discount with the purchase. SO, I got 50$ of gift cards only for 40$.

I am sharing the code for you guys also don't know if it will be eligible when you will use it. Code: "Bitcoin10"
Also, I don't know if it is only for 1st purchase. But to apply the coupon you must choose the payment method as bitcoin.

[OmegaStarScream]

I am sharing the code for you guys also don't know if it will be eligible when you will use it. Code: "Bitcoin10"
Also, I don't know if it is only for 1st purchase. But to apply the coupon you must choose the payment method as bitcoin.

Were you forced to use Blockchain's wallet with BitPay to benefit from this promo? Or using NetCents (their second payment processor) with any wallet would be fine?

[Fatemablabla]

Were you forced to use Blockchain's wallet with BitPay to benefit from this promo? Or using NetCents (their second payment processor) with any wallet would be fine?

I used the Bitpay wallet by default. Not sure if it was forcing me to use it. But as far I remember the page they sent me was hosted by Bitpay.  You can check it by using the coupon.

[bitrefill]

Hello, I'm here again to ask about what I intend to do   I plan to do business by buying goods from the US to my country. Cheap gift cards seem insecure, so I plan to use gift cards here to top up and buy things. Although the discount is only from 2-5%, but in business, it is good to make   But I wonder, will I be protected or refunded if my account is banned from using your gift card? To be clear, I will buy $ 600 gift card from Bitrefill, top up my account and buy, the account is not new, there was a successful transaction from 1 month ago. I don't know how it will go, but if in the worst case, if my account is banned or I lose that money, is Bitrefill responsible to help me get it back or refund me? It is necessary for me to start my business  
EDIT: LOL, I was wrong, Bitrefill only offers 1% discount on Amazon gift card 

Hello, Amazon does not allow to use Gift cards for Business purposes/reselling/dropshipping and also does not allow to redeem the card from another country. But take a look as we have some Amazon competitors in our catalog.

[bullrun2024bro]

You can now use BTC to add US-Dollar/Euro funds to your Bitrefill account. Pretty interesting feature. I guess I will try it, once I do my next deposit.



Source: https://twitter.com/bitrefill/status/1287986568301408256

[rdbase]

Went to the first post to see if this site was listed and it isn't, so posting another service offered for turning your crypto into a wide assortment of giftcards available on this site:
https://coingate.com/gift-cards

I don't know how their giftcard purchasing operates (I see they ask you to fill in your first and last name ) but I have heard of their exchange services as they are well known for it but never tried that part of the site either.
It doesn't look like they offer any direct discounts so might be 1:1 ratio for you crypto. Except for a limited time offer of 3% off if you use dai..
uhhh a stable coin.

If you have recently made a purchase let us know of your experience and if it is truly KYC required in order to buy those giftcards on their site.

edit: Just did a very quick search and came up with these two results below.
https://blog.coingate.com/2020/07/introducing-gift-cards/
https://blog.coingate.com/2020/07/popular-gift-cards-for-bitcoin/

Looks like they just released this feature on their website about a month ago. According to the dates of these blog posts announcing which gift cards are offer and for which cryptocurrenices are available for a transaction.
The requesting of a name is if you plan on sending it as a gift. They need an email address and something entered in for a name so the recipient of the giftcard knows who it is from.

[bullrun2024bro]

The only issue I had, was that IKEA gift cards need 24h to get active (the support told me it's some kind of IKEA policy)

Concerning the Bitrefill IKEA gift card activation policy there recently has been another change. The IKEA gift cards can now be used after 48h.



Source: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/ikea-germany/?hl=en


Did you guys also see that Amazon gift cards on Bitrefill are actually cheaper than their face value? In addition to that you also get 1% Bitrefill rewards for your next purchase. Pretty good deal IMHO.



Source: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/amazon_de-germany/?hl=en

[LeGaulois]

That's 0.09% cheaper than the face value. It's like 0, nothing exceptional or pretty as you say. It's not a point that could attract my attention to encourage me to buy.
Even considering the 1% cashback. There are places where the usual rate is 3% cheaper and you can also get then a 1-3% cashhback

[bullrun2024bro]

That's 0.09% cheaper than the face value. It's like 0, nothing exceptional or pretty as you say. It's not a point that could attract my attention to encourage me to buy.
Even considering the 1% cashback. There are places where the usual rate is 3% cheaper and you can also get then a 1-3% cashhback

Why don't you just share "these places" here in the thread then? That way other members of the BCT community could also benefit from these better rates. I am using gift cards quite often and would love to save a few percent, if possible. Or was your intention just to bash my post above, because you thought I am shilling Bitrefill? I don't mind where I buy my gift cards, as long as they are legit (no 2nd market b*llshit), trustworthy and cheap.

So please if you can vouch for a better deal out there, let me know!

[LeGaulois]

Because people won't be able to use it since they're not from my country (I shared a list long ago on my local board), but if you search in your country you will find some available to you. Try to look for "Buying gift card" "buying amazon gift cards" "sell gift card" and check the results.
Not easy to find but there are

As for the cashback, it's something well know from online shoppers there are many websites for this. Here too I use only french websites but there are surely plenty in your country.

I guess you're from Germany? Maybe you could ask on https://www.mydealz.de/ if you're a member, and if you're not then it means you like paying normal prices

(By the way, I didn't think you were shilling Bitrefill)

[bullrun2024bro]

Because people won't be able to use it since they're not from my country (I shared a list long ago on my local board), but if you search in your country you will find some available to you. Try to look for "Buying gift card" "buying amazon gift cards" "sell gift card" and check the results. Not easy to find but there are.

You mean those kind threads in which people resell gift cards they bought stole for a discount? We have those in our local section too, like e.g. this one:

Amazonaufladecodes zum Aufrubbeln 75% BTC

Unfortunately in most cases buying gift cards from these people is highly dangerous since those gift cards are often either stolen or carded. In our German local section we just had a huge drama concerning stolen amazon gift cards. Several people from our local section bought gift cards from the seller mentioned in the thread above and the cards unfortunately weren't legit. One buyer was contacted by the German law enforcement and went through a lot of trouble to clear up the situation. Other buyers might be contacted in the future. (For more information just check this thread: Ermittlungsverfahren wegen Amazongutschein gegen mich; it's in German but Google translate should help).

That's why I personally can not vouch for buying Amazon gift cards for BTC from an untrusted (mass)-reseller here in the forum. It's different if a member sells a few gift cards he personally doesn't use, but if the seller has an almost unlimited supply of gift cards he can sell for 75%-80% of the face value, it's a huge red flag and one should ask him- or herself how it could be possible to sell these gift cards with such a discount.

As for the cashback, it's something well know from online shoppers there are many websites for this. Here too I use only french websites but there are surely plenty in your country.

You are absolutely right, I am often using cash-back when I am doing my regular online shopping for €, but since this thread is about buying gift cards for crypto, I was looking for some kind of crypto/BTC cash back. Do you know any other websites that offer some kind of crypto cashback for buying gift cards for BTC? I unfortunately haven't found any others yet. 

I guess you're from Germany? Maybe you could ask on https://www.mydealz.de/ if you're a member, and if you're not then it means you like paying normal prices

You are right, you can find plenty attractive deals on the website you mentioned above when you are looking for certain items, but I never heard of mydealz offering gift cards for BTC or any other crypto. I am not quite sure, but I doubt they accept BTC payments at all. 

[LeGaulois]

....

Do you know any other websites that offer some kind of crypto cashback for buying gift cards for BTC? I unfortunately haven't found any others yet

None that I know of, but I've already seen on the forum cashback paying in BTC. Unfortunately, usually cashback does not cover the purchase of a gift card.

....

You mean those kind threads in which people resell gift cards they bought stole for a discount? We have those in our local section too, like e.g. this one:

Nope, I was talking about companies. I read the topic earlier, (thanks for the link) I know there' s a user in the german forum who sells cards with a 20% discount. I even talked to him/her via Skype a few days ago, but now I think I will forget about the offer :/
(That was also the reason I stopped to use Purse.io)

....

but I never heard of mydealz offering gift cards for BTC or any other crypto. I am not quite sure, but I doubt they accept BTC payments at all.

Nah, they don't have a payment system but people there spend their day to find good deals or errors in the prices and like the french version you can find a lot of crypto users. So looking there you could find users who know where to go

[CardCoins]

Do folks in this thread have an interest in the Gift Card -> Bitcoin side of the transaction? I see the list here is composed of Bitcoin -> Gift Card providers.

Our service (https://cardcoins.co) does just that. We accept Visa/Mastercard/Amex gift cards and exchange them for Bitcoin

[OmegaStarScream]

Do folks in this thread have an interest in the Gift Card -> Bitcoin side of the transaction? I see the list here is composed of Bitcoin -> Gift Card providers.

That's because I'm not aware of any services that do that, except for P2P marketplaces of course.

It would've been interesting if you supported more services such as Amazon, Netflix, etc. but, I doubt that this would be possible to implement since there is no way for you to check the balance of cards or know how they were obtained...

[CardCoins]

Do folks in this thread have an interest in the Gift Card -> Bitcoin side of the transaction? I see the list here is composed of Bitcoin -> Gift Card providers.

That's because I'm not aware of any services that do that, except for P2P marketplaces of course.

It would've been interesting if you supported more services such as Amazon, Netflix, etc. but, I doubt that this would be possible to implement since there is no way for you to check the balance of cards or know how they were obtained...

We're always working on interesting new products and features, introducing closed loop gift cards is definitely something on our radar! Thankfully the distribution of open and closed loop gift cards is nearly identical. Pretty much every big box retailer, pharmacy, supermarket, gas station etc. that sells closed loop also has open loop.

Will keep this thread in mind in the event we introduce the closed loop stuff!

[louloubtc]

Tested And Approved!

CryptosGifts.com   ---> Supported coins = BTC, BCH, DASH & LTC    --->  Registration required? = No , No Kyc, No limits   


Paxful.com/ ---> Supported coins = BTC, BCH, DASH & LTC and more    --->  Registration required? = Yes ,  Kyc, limited 2,000$/day   


www.GiftcardBitcoin.com ---> Supported coins = BTC, BCH, DASH & LTC    --->  Registration required? = No , No Kyc, No limits 

[RedPrince]

Great list. Here is a small suggestion. It is good if apart from US/EU, portals that support Asian countries are also mentioned. This would help in quickly checking whether a certain portal supports gift cards for a certain country.

[bpovtmg]

Paxful.com/ ---> Supported coins = BTC, BCH, DASH & LTC and more    --->  Registration required? = Yes ,  Kyc, limited 2,000$/day   

I would advise every forum member willing to buy a Gift Card on PaxFul (especially, Amazon gift cards) to carefully read this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2376993.0

I have been buying *LEGIT* Amazon gift cards on that site for some time and it requires some effort not to be scammed.

In return, you can save up to 20%.

[OmegaStarScream]

Tested And Approved!

CryptosGifts.com   ---> Supported coins = BTC, BCH, DASH & LTC    --->  Registration required? = No , No Kyc, No limits   

www.GiftcardBitcoin.com ---> Supported coins = BTC, BCH, DASH & LTC    --->  Registration required? = No , No Kyc, No limits 

Where did you find these two services? I checked the first, and I find it very suspicious that a site with so many (old) reviews has no online presence.

Great list. Here is a small suggestion. It is good if apart from US/EU, portals that support Asian countries are also mentioned. This would help in quickly checking whether a certain portal supports gift cards for a certain country.

Not sure I will be able to list the countries, because that would make the table messy and hard to read but I will try to include the region (APAC) if you think that would help.

[SFR10]

Tested And Approved!

CryptosGifts.com   ---> Supported coins = BTC, BCH, DASH & LTC    --->  Registration required? = No , No Kyc, No limits   

Yeah, right

Where did you find these two services? I checked the first, and I find it very suspicious that a site with so many (old) reviews has no online presence.

Did some digging for the first one and it's a fake/scam platform: [SCAM] Cryptosgifts - Fake reviews
^{- Not sure about the latter one on his/her list but seeing this user shilled for a platform with fake reviews, I'm guessing the other one is also a platform meant for scamming users.}

[tomahawk9]

Looks like Bitrefill removed the option to buy 'Steam Gift Cards USD', they're selling them only in EUR, which is pretty annoying given Steam's new policy (wallet codes are now currency locked, meaning that codes will not convert from one currency to another)

So, a question: does anyone know any other providers currently selling steam gift cards USD (region)? Coinsbee does sell them in USD, but they only have $50 gift cards, wtf :/

[figmentofmyass]

Looks like Bitrefill removed the option to buy 'Steam Gift Cards USD', they're selling them only in EUR, which is pretty annoying given Steam's new policy (wallet codes are now currency locked, meaning that codes will not convert from one currency to another)

So, a question: does anyone know any other providers currently selling steam gift cards USD (region)? Coinsbee does sell them in USD, but they only have $50 gift cards, wtf :/

keys4coins has a few lower value USD cards listed but they seem to charge a hefty premium on top: https://www.keys4coins.com/product-category/gift-cards/steam-gift-cards/

i'm not too familiar with them but i see no negative reviews on trustpilot.

dundle also seems to only have $50 cards in stock at the moment, but you might keep an eye on them: https://dundle.com/steam/

[tomahawk9]

Looks like Bitrefill removed the option to buy 'Steam Gift Cards USD', they're selling them only in EUR, which is pretty annoying given Steam's new policy (wallet codes are now currency locked, meaning that codes will not convert from one currency to another)

So, a question: does anyone know any other providers currently selling steam gift cards USD (region)? Coinsbee does sell them in USD, but they only have $50 gift cards, wtf :/

keys4coins has a few lower value USD cards listed but they seem to charge a hefty premium on top: https://www.keys4coins.com/product-category/gift-cards/steam-gift-cards/

i'm not too familiar with them but i see no negative reviews on trustpilot.

dundle also seems to only have $50 cards in stock at the moment, but you might keep an eye on them: https://dundle.com/steam/

Thanks!

i think i'm gonna try 'Dundle' first, mainly bc when you hover over the different currencies, there's a msg telling you that the cards are currency locked , while 'keys4coins' still says "Region WORLDWIDE" which makes me think that they haven't updated the platform to comply with Steam's policy

[FOPL]

I can vouch for https://www.cryptorefills.com/. It was the first provider I spent some bitcoins on gift cards. I don't know how many but they have a lot of gift cards and phone top ups also. Registration is optional but they seem to have KYC limits https://www.cryptorefills.com/blog/terms-and-conditions/. I don't see that they sell crypto to fiat. They accept bitcoin, ltc, dash.

[bitrefill]

Looks like Bitrefill removed the option to buy 'Steam Gift Cards USD', they're selling them only in EUR, which is pretty annoying given Steam's new policy (wallet codes are now currency locked, meaning that codes will not convert from one currency to another)

So, a question: does anyone know any other providers currently selling steam gift cards USD (region)? Coinsbee does sell them in USD, but they only have $50 gift cards, wtf :/

Hello, we have Steam USD back! https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/steam-usa

[Coinsbee.com]

We always have them in stock. We try to add other values soon.

https://www.coinsbee.com/de/Steam-bitcoin

[OmegaStarScream]

We always have them in stock. We try to add other values soon.

https://www.coinsbee.com/de/Steam-bitcoin

He was looking for smaller denominations. From what I can see you only have 50's for USD.

I've got a question though, I can see that you have AE and SA cards, I know that cards are currency locked now, what does it mean exactly? Can I redeem the cards, and have to shop in the card's currency, or I won't be able to redeem them at all?

[frodocooper]

With Coinsbee currently unable to offer Mastercard and Visa prepaid cards for sale, are there other trustworthy Mastercard or Visa prepaid card providers that accept monero or bitcoin?

[OmegaStarScream]

With Coinsbee currently unable to offer Mastercard and Visa prepaid cards for sale, are there other trustworthy Mastercard or Visa prepaid card providers that accept monero or bitcoin?

There is BitPay (make sure to read the first comment).

And based on the reddit link and this statement, I'm guessing that Coinsbee is going to switch to the same VCC distributor as Bitpay.

[OmegaStarScream]

With Coinsbee currently unable to offer Mastercard and Visa prepaid cards for sale, are there other trustworthy Mastercard or Visa prepaid card providers that accept monero or bitcoin?

It appears that Coinsbee has fixed the problem they had with their distributor, and they're now supporting larger denominations. 200$ for Visa cards and 100 EUR for MasterCard.

[OmegaStarScream]

Coinsbee has added (a limited number) of 500$ VCCs. AFAIK, prepaid cards don't work everywhere, some services don't accept them so I would recommend buying smaller denominations to test them first.

If you bought and used the card before, please let me know which service was it. I want to compile a list of the (un)supported services.

[Fatemablabla]

Service review

Service Provider: Bitrefill
Today I bought an Netflix gift card from Bitrefill. My region is BD, but it doesn't have any gift card from Netflix for specific region. So bought US gift card. I wasn't sure if it's gonna work so bought the lowest amount which was 15$. And fortunately it worked in my region. After applying the gift card code it cut 12$ from there and gave me 50days of Netflix package. 3$ is still in the account. So, I think it's cheaper from the bank payment. Because with my visa card I had to pay 12$+vat for 1month. I'm not sure if it's gonna work same for every reason.

I used litecoin as as payment method. So the fee was low too. The order confirmed within 2mintues after the transaction hit the address.

Satisfied with the service. Recommended if anyone looking for Netflix gift card.

[LeGaulois]

Is there someone who used a Mastercard VCC from Prepaiddigitalsolution recently?
I got one and I'm unable to use it, I tried on 4 websites, 2-3 times each, and the card payment is always refused. I tried to top up a bank account too but failed.

I'm stuck with a €100 VCC, don't even know what to do with it, and can't even give it away as there is my name tied to the numbers

[pugman]

Is there someone who used a Mastercard VCC from Prepaiddigitalsolution recently?
I got one and I'm unable to use it, I tried on 4 websites, 2-3 times each, and the card payment is always refused. I tried to top up a bank account too but failed.

I'm stuck with a €100 VCC, don't even know what to do with it, and can't even give it away as there is my name tied to the numbers

Well even if you give it away, chances are it won't work for them either. Seeing prepaiddigitalsolution's trust pilot reviews, it is HIGHY questionable whether the VCC would even work.

But keep trying on different sites, you never know what might happen. Good luck!

[OmegaStarScream]

Is there someone who used a Mastercard VCC from Prepaiddigitalsolution recently?
I got one and I'm unable to use it, I tried on 4 websites, 2-3 times each, and the card payment is always refused. I tried to top up a bank account too but failed.

I'm stuck with a €100 VCC, don't even know what to do with it, and can't even give it away as there is my name tied to the numbers

I just tried buying from AliExpress with a 50 EUR card and it worked just fine. Maybe you can try to buy some electronics from there and then resell them? Alternatively, if you're into Netflix, you can redeem it there.

[LeGaulois]

The last time I will ever use this shit Prepaiddigitalsolution and the last time I will advise anyone to purchase a Visa or Mastercard VCC
Still, thanks for the suggestion but the card is now dead. I tried to purchase something on AliExpress and I got the message "Insufficient funds". How that come since I've never been able to pay something with?

Well, I got my answer. Despite the card is refused at the checkout, they still deduce the amount from the card, so yes insufficient funds now



I'm dumb, do you know why? Because I already used their cards before, once I purchased something on Amazon and my order was cancelled within minutes and my account suspended. I don't remember where I used the card after but I wanted to give another try because I wanted to top up a bank account with it.

fuck fuck fuck

[OmegaStarScream]

Well, I got my answer. Despite the card is refused at the checkout, they still deduce the amount from the card, so yes insufficient funds now

That's messed up... I'm assuming the problem is coming from Prepaiddigitalsolution's side if it happened with multiple sites so, have you tried to reach out to the merchants and asking them to refund the amount since it was never credited to you in the first place?

[LeGaulois]

No, I didn't contact them knowing that I'm sure they didn't receive anything. I'm going to try tomorrow because there's no one working at the weekends at the company.

But when I made the transaction, I got a "payment declined" message, and since I should have received the item instantly, that's why I'm pretty sure they didn't receive anything. Otherwise, I would have already received the order.

I should have gone straight to Aliexpress if I knew, they had cheap items I needed.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Not every gift card is accepted at every online store. I've had bad experiences with Paysafe cards in the past. Coming from another country, was not accepted.

Tried using a VPN once, and gone was my balance. And they made many problems before they returned the balance on the voucher.

[OmegaStarScream]

No, I didn't contact them knowing that I'm sure they didn't receive anything. I'm going to try tomorrow because there's no one working at the weekends at the company.

But when I made the transaction, I got a "payment declined" message, and since I should have received the item instantly, that's why I'm pretty sure they didn't receive anything. Otherwise, I would have already received the order.

Any updates about this? and have you tried writing to Prepaiddigitalsolutions directly? I haven't got any serious issues with these cards yet but I must admit that I got a bit concerned, especially after checking the Trustpilot page.

Not every gift card is accepted at every online store. I've had bad experiences with Paysafe cards in the past. Coming from another country, was not accepted.

That's correct but some providers, like Bitrefill, for example, give you these details (the possible geolocation restrictions, and whether the card can be used in stores, or just online).

[LeGaulois]

Any updates about this?

Yep, I contacted the merchant who assured me twice that the bank transaction was unsuccessful and therefore no payment was received. They couldn't give me any more details as I didn't give any information about the card.

I then tried to contact Prepaiddigitalsolutions but no response to date. In any case, I doubt I will receive a constructive one. I'm not the type of person to complain on Trustpilot and given the answers I think it's useless. 100€ to throw in the bin
If I would be the seller I would remove their card from my site so that my customers would not have an uncomfortable experience (even if it's not my fault)

(by the way, I remember it took me like 3 hours to register the card because the site is so buggy)

[pugman]

Any updates about this?

Yep, I contacted the merchant who assured me twice that the bank transaction was unsuccessful and therefore no payment was received. They couldn't give me any more details as I didn't give any information about the card.

I then tried to contact Prepaiddigitalsolutions but no response to date. In any case, I doubt I will receive a constructive one. I'm not the type of person to complain on Trustpilot and given the answers I think it's useless. 100€ to throw in the bin
If I would be the seller I would remove their card from my site so that my customers would not have an uncomfortable experience (even if it's not my fault)

(by the way, I remember it took me like 3 hours to register the card because the site is so buggy)

What the shit? 3 HOURS??? wtffff

Try sending a remainder email to Prepaiddigitalsolutions perhaps??? You never know, what will happen. Complain like a karen to them, they will refund you 

But seriously though, don't give up on this, 100€ is quite a bit, so try what you can do.

[OmegaStarScream]

Updates and deals:

- Bitrefill: https://blog.bitrefill.com/black-friday-cyber-monday-on-bitrefill-578fe9e62596
- Bidali released a phone app, if you use it when buying, you can earn up to 10% cashback.
- eGifter: https://www.egifter.com/promos
- Giftoff: https://giftoff.com/black-friday
Both Coinsbee and Bitrefill are out of stock (WebMoney and PerfectMoney). Do you guys know any other (good) alternatives? I've checked BestChange but the rates were not that attractive.

[riapotuga]

Updates and deals:

- Bitrefill: https://blog.bitrefill.com/black-friday-cyber-monday-on-bitrefill-578fe9e62596
- Bidali released a phone app, if you use it when buying, you can earn up to 10% cashback.
- eGifter: https://www.egifter.com/promos
- Giftoff: https://giftoff.com/black-friday
Both Coinsbee and Bitrefill are out of stock (WebMoney and PerfectMoney). Do you guys know any other (good) alternatives? I've checked BestChange but the rates were not that attractive.

Do u know any site i can buy vanilla debit card like this bro ?
https://i.imgur.com/KrGGoZJ.jpeg
Thanks you very much.

[OmegaStarScream]

Do u know any site i can buy vanilla debit card like this bro ?
-SNIP-
Thanks you very much.

I haven't used them myself but it appears that both Coinsbee and eGifter have them:

- https://www.coinsbee.com/en/Vanilla-bitcoin
- https://www.egifter.com/bitcoin/vanilla-egift-visa-virtual-account-25-bitcoin

Alternatively, you can check some P2P platforms. You might be able to find them at a small discount (watch out for scammers though).

[OmegaStarScream]

Does anyone here know if the Careem GCs that Bitrefill sells are region locked or not? I know that deposited funds can be transferred to other users from any other region so I'm assuming that GCs funds are automatically converted too?
Updates:

- CoinCards: delivery delays for some products (due to holidays): https://twitter.com/CoinCards/status/1342189907859542016
- It's now be possible to buy gift cards from your Coinbase wallet (I'm referring to their non-custodial wallet): https://medium.com/bidali/how-to-live-off-your-coinbase-wallet-with-bidali-afa4885fdeca

[jamalaezaz]

those region based services are only for those specific regions or they are just for the currencies?
I want to buy Minecraft from google play store. I searched for google play vouch/gift cards there are so many results of different countries. so if I use Play Store USA I'll get Us dollars in my play store accounts and I can use them from anywhere I want, right?
or I must be from US myself?

[OmegaStarScream]

those region based services are only for those specific regions or they are just for the currencies?
I want to buy Minecraft from google play store. I searched for google play vouch/gift cards there are so many results of different countries. so if I use Play Store USA I'll get Us dollars in my play store accounts and I can use them from anywhere I want, right?
or I must be from US myself?

It depends on the service. For google play, it should be possible to redeem your U.S GC after changing your IP address. I've done it before. If you get an error message, just try to google it and follow some guides online, it will work.

Again though, not all services work the same way. Netflix for example only allows gift cards with the currency you used to pay your subscriptions. So if you first paid your subscription in EUR, a USD GC will not work even if you are from the U.S.

[NotATether]

Just leaving this here in case anyone wants to buy Spotify gift cards from coinsbee. Once you make sure that the card region matches your Spotify county, you have to type the ZIP code of the area you're in after the box for redeeming the gift card. If you are using a VPN, then that's the ZIP code of the VPN's IP address (which also must be in the same country as your Spotify account). It won't let you redeem your gift card without filling in the ZIP code.

But once you redeem it you're good to go, you can buy Spotify Premium like I did without a credit or debit card. Actually it autosubscribes you as soon as you redeem the gift card.

[OmegaStarScream]

Just leaving this here in case anyone wants to buy Spotify gift cards from coinsbee. Once you make sure that the card region matches your Spotify county, you have to type the ZIP code of the area you're in after the box for redeeming the gift card. If you are using a VPN, then that's the ZIP code of the VPN's IP address (which also must be in the same country as your Spotify account). It won't let you redeem your gift card without filling in the ZIP code.

But once you redeem it you're good to go, you can buy Spotify Premium like I did without a credit or debit card. Actually it autosubscribes you as soon as you redeem the gift card.

Is that a new thing? I tried a similar thing some time ago but I never managed to get the card to work.

I know that changing your country is not possible, so would create another account with a VPN do the trick? And would it be enough to do this as a one-time thing or there is a risk of getting locked afterward?

[bullrun2024bro]

Just a quick Bitrefill-Update: There is a fee of 0.0001 BTC for top-ups below 0.004 BTC on Bitrefill.



Source: https://www.bitrefill.com/account

I just added the info to the German thread: [Liste] Gutscheinanbieter für Bitcoins oder Altcoins - 12/2020

[SFR10]

Just a quick Bitrefill-Update: There is a fee of 0.0001 BTC for top-ups below 0.004 BTC on Bitrefill.

That's strange! I know it's not much but still is something that affects all of us ^{[eventually it becomes a significant amount when combining all users]} and I see no reason for it.
^{- Anyone knows the reason behind that extra cost [I did some digging but couldn't find anything]?}

[LoyceV]

Anyone knows the reason behind that extra cost ^{[I did some digging but couldn't find anything]}?

It's probably because consolidating small inputs is expensive (depending on the transaction fee at the time).
0.0001 BTC is quite low considering BitPay for instance charges more.

I only see the 0.0001 BTC warning when topping up my Bitcoin Balance. But I've also seen small inconsistencies between paying by Bitcoin or paying by balance, just like certain 10 euro coupons are more expensive than others:

My guess is they earn commission from some coupons, and adjust the total price accordingly. It's just weird that a 10 euro balance is often not enough to pay for a 10 euro coupon.
When paying with Lightning Network, the total varies a bit: sometimes a few sats more than on-chain, sometimes a few less.

[tesco]

uquid shop is one gift card providers with good discount price
https://cointelegraph.com/news/how-a-crypto-focused-shop-with-35-000-items-made-btc-payments-faster

[bitrefill]

Just a quick Bitrefill-Update: There is a fee of 0.0001 BTC for top-ups below 0.004 BTC on Bitrefill.

That's strange! I know it's not much but still is something that affects all of us ^{[eventually it becomes a significant amount when combining all users]} and I see no reason for it.
^{- Anyone knows the reason behind that extra cost [I did some digging but couldn't find anything]?}

Hello, as the previous comment said, consolidating each input has a cost for us. Bitcoin onchain is too expensive for small payments now, if you want to deposit less than 0.004 you should use Lightning network, which has way lower fees and works instantly. Muun wallet is nice as it pays both onchain and Lightning from the same balance, you can scan either QR codes the same way.

[OmegaStarScream]

uquid shop is one gift card providers with good discount price
https://cointelegraph.com/news/how-a-crypto-focused-shop-with-35-000-items-made-btc-payments-faster

Is it from the same team who used to provide the debit cards?

Anyway, I can't see any real discounts there. A few examples:

A 20$ Amazon GC costs $24.01 (and according to them it was $43.66)
A 20 EUR Battle.net card costs $27.22 (was $50.99)

Which makes no sense at all.

[SFR10]

It's probably because consolidating small inputs is expensive (depending on the transaction fee at the time).
0.0001 BTC is quite low considering BitPay for instance charges more.
~Snipped~

Hello, as the previous comment said, consolidating each input has a cost for us. Bitcoin onchain is too expensive for small payments now, if you want to deposit less than 0.004 you should use Lightning network, which has way lower fees and works instantly. Muun wallet is nice as it pays both onchain and Lightning from the same balance, you can scan either QR codes the same way.

Thank you for the explanations and confirmations ^{[I hope it's a dynamic type of fee, even if there's still the option to use lightning]}.
^{- In regards to Muun, this is the first time I've read about it and it looks interesting enough [I might give it a try in the future (thank you for mentioning it)].}

[NotATether]

Just leaving this here in case anyone wants to buy Spotify gift cards from coinsbee. Once you make sure that the card region matches your Spotify county, you have to type the ZIP code of the area you're in after the box for redeeming the gift card. If you are using a VPN, then that's the ZIP code of the VPN's IP address (which also must be in the same country as your Spotify account). It won't let you redeem your gift card without filling in the ZIP code.

But once you redeem it you're good to go, you can buy Spotify Premium like I did without a credit or debit card. Actually it autosubscribes you as soon as you redeem the gift card.

Is that a new thing? I tried a similar thing some time ago but I never managed to get the card to work.

I know that changing your country is not possible, so would create another account with a VPN do the trick? And would it be enough to do this as a one-time thing or there is a risk of getting locked afterward?

I forgot about this thread sorry about that. It looks like the ZIP code part has always been required to redeem the gift card.

No you don't need to create a new Spotify account in order to redeem it, but Spotify takes your ZIP code and presumably checks that it's in the country that matches your account's settings, hence why I recommended using the ZIP code the VPN's IP address is located in (definitely the ZIP code of its data center or ISP).

I haven't experienced any problems or login issues with my account after redeeming the gift card, and the Spotify app and website continue to work if you access them with a VPN of a different country then the one in your settings.

Hopefully I'll try buying and redeeming a Hulu gift card and see how that goes. What do you know, paying for your streaming with bitcoin 

[bryant.coleman]

I am having a doubt regarding Bitrefill, and will be very grateful if anyone could help me. I am using this site for more than a year, to purchase gift cards. I never faced any issue until now. But recently, I have noticed one issue. For example, when I am purchasing an Amazon gift card, the price is being given as BTC0.00203800. However, before the confirmation of payment, the amount suddenly changes to BTC0.00223800. Earlier this issue was not there and I was paying the actual price of the gift card. Can anyone tell me from where this additional 10% charge is coming up? 

[SFR10]

price is being given as BTC0.00203800
~Snipped~
amount suddenly changes to BTC0.00223800.

Are you sure that 0.0002BTC was added and not 0.0001BTC only?

Can anyone tell me from where this additional 10% charge is coming up? 

As mentioned "before", there's an added 0.0001BTC fee for funding ^{[or direct purchases]} your accounts with less than 0.004BTC.

Top-ups under 0.004 BTC incur a fee of 0.0001 BTC

[LoyceV]

I have noticed one issue. For example, when I am purchasing an Amazon gift card, the price is being given as BTC0.00203800. However, before the confirmation of payment, the amount suddenly changes to BTC0.00223800.

I can't reproduce this. But: Bitrefill pricing is a bit .... weird:

For this €42.43 order, they charge 0.00142600 BTC. That's pretty close to what preev.com estimates.

My earlier assumption:

My guess is they earn commission from some coupons, and adjust the total price accordingly.

[bryant.coleman]

price is being given as BTC0.00203800
~Snipped~
amount suddenly changes to BTC0.00223800.

Are you sure that 0.0002BTC was added and not 0.0001BTC only?

Can anyone tell me from where this additional 10% charge is coming up?  

As mentioned "before", there's an added 0.0001BTC fee for funding ^{[or direct purchases]} your accounts with less than 0.004BTC.

Top-ups under 0.004 BTC incur a fee of 0.0001 BTC

I topped up my wallet with BTC0.030, and was using the account balance to purchase Amazon gift cards. I know that there is a charge for deposits under BTC0.004, but that is not the case in my transaction. I never make top-ups below that amount. At the time of purchase, my Bitrefill account balance was around 0.026 BTC. Also, earlier when I purchased gift cards for a higher amount, I was charged BTC0.00444200 instead of BTC0.00404200 that was shown before the "confirm payment" option came up. So I don't think that the limit of 0.004 BTC has to do anything with this.

It seems to be a flat 10% fee instead of BTC0.0001.

[LoyceV]

It seems to be a flat 10% fee instead of BTC0.0001.

I've noticed small inaccuracies too, when paying from my account balance (in euro). Some gift cards added 6%, others (like amazon.nl) even more than 10%. But nowadays it's shown before adding it to my shopping cart.
What happens if you select Bitcoin Lightning Network to pay with, instead of your account balance?

[bryant.coleman]

Just to clarify a little bit, I am attaching the screenshots.

When I click on the purchase button, this is what I get (4 Amazon gift cards for BTC0.007748).

However, just before the "confirm payment" step, this amount changes from BTC0.007748 to BTC0.008484.

I never faced this issue before and therefore I am not sure about the reason.

[bitrefill]

price is being given as BTC0.00203800
~Snipped~
amount suddenly changes to BTC0.00223800.

Are you sure that 0.0002BTC was added and not 0.0001BTC only?

Can anyone tell me from where this additional 10% charge is coming up? 

As mentioned "before", there's an added 0.0001BTC fee for funding ^{[or direct purchases]} your accounts with less than 0.004BTC.

Top-ups under 0.004 BTC incur a fee of 0.0001 BTC

I topped up my wallet with BTC0.030, and was using the account balance to purchase Amazon gift cards. I know that there is a charge for deposits under BTC0.004, but that is not the case in my transaction. I never make top-ups below that amount. At the time of purchase, my Bitrefill account balance was around 0.026 BTC. Also, earlier when I purchased gift cards for a higher amount, I was charged BTC0.00444200 instead of BTC0.00404200 that was shown before the "confirm payment" option came up. So I don't think that the limit of 0.004 BTC has to do anything with this.

It seems to be a flat 10% fee instead of BTC0.0001.

We are sorry this happened to you, there is no flat fee whatsoever, the price you see in the product page should be the price you pay, and we don't make any deductions from your account, what you are describing was never reported before. Can you please detail this to support@bitrefill.com? we will solve it for you.

Just to clarify a little bit, I am attaching the screenshots.

When I click on the purchase button, this is what I get (4 Amazon gift cards for BTC0.007748).

However, just before the "confirm payment" step, this amount changes from BTC0.007748 to BTC0.008484.

I never faced this issue before and therefore I am not sure about the reason.

This looks like a bug, but I cannot reproduce it but please tell us in support which are the cards where you get this behaviour.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

[bryant.coleman]

This looks like a bug, but I cannot reproduce it but please tell us in support which are the cards where you get this behaviour.

It seems as if the bug has been removed. I tried purchasing Amazon coupons from the product page and the price I saw before the last step was the same as that was displayed earlier. And regarding the type of gift cards, I faced this issue only with Amazon. Because during this month I didn't purchased any other gift card. But I remember that I just tested with another brand and I saw a price increase there as well. Anyway, now it looks as if the issue is resolved.

[LoyceV]

the price you see in the product page should be the price you pay

That would avoid confusion indeed, so I'd like to report a similar case where the price was increased at the last payment step:
When I order this, the price is €10.29:


The price goes up to €10.75 when I reach the Final Confirmation:


This happens when I use my euro balance to pay.

[SFR10]

Can someone try to visit and see if they could successfully access "CardCash" with an IP from the US? I wanted to suggest it to someone for selling their gift card but I keep getting "Error 1020 Access denied" when I'm using a VPN with an IP from the US ^{[both normal and dedicated IPs]}.

• I can access it with other IPs but I get the following message at the top of each page:
  

  Hey, it looks like you’re outside of the US. Some of the features may not work in your country.

• If I try to do some tests, I get the following Pop-up error:
  

  Sorry, we are experiencing technical difficulties
  We are sorry. There was a problem connecting to the server. Please refresh the page and try again. If you are still having issues, please reach out to support@cardcash.com. Thank you.

Does anyone know other places that allow "individuals" to sell their gift cards ^{[in exchange for BTCitcoin or other cryptocurrencies]} to them?

[OmegaStarScream]

Can someone try to visit and see if they could successfully access "CardCash" with an IP from the US? I wanted to suggest it to someone for selling their gift card but I keep getting "Error 1020 Access denied" when I'm using a VPN with an IP from the US ^{[both normal and dedicated IPs]}.

I'm not aware of any other sites that allow you to sell your cards, but... I've tried using a VPN (ZenMate chrome extension) and it appears to be working fine, I looked through the site for a few minutes (without creating an account) and no error messages showed.

Just a quick Bitrefill-Update: There is a fee of 0.0001 BTC for top-ups below 0.004 BTC on Bitrefill.
-snip-

Anyone knows if this is still the case? Because that message is not showing in my end.

[SFR10]

I've tried using a VPN (ZenMate chrome extension) and it appears to be working fine, I looked through the site for a few minutes (without creating an account) and no error messages showed.

That's weird. I'm getting those errors while using NordVPN ^{[other IPs are fine, only their US ones seem to be affected]}.

Just a quick Bitrefill-Update: There is a fee of 0.0001 BTC for top-ups below 0.004 BTC on Bitrefill.
-snip-

Anyone knows if this is still the case? Because that message is not showing in my end.

It shows on my end but it's significantly lower ^{[0.000005BTC]}...
^{- They might've switched to a dynamic type of fee.}

[bullrun2024bro]

It shows on my end but it's significantly lower ^{[0.000005BTC]}...
^{- They might've switched to a dynamic type of fee.}

Oh, that fee reducation sounds great. I just checked them out, but unfortunately I doubt that the fees are dynamic, since I am shown the same amount.  



Source: https://www.bitrefill.com/

I'll check the fees again tonight, but maybe @bitrefill can clear things up in the meantime.  

[OmegaStarScream]

^{- They might've switched to a dynamic type of fee.}

Oh, that fee reducation sounds great. I just checked them out, but unfortunately I doubt that the fees are dynamic, since I am shown the same amount. 

-snip-
I'll check the fees again tonight, but maybe @bitrefill can clear things up in the meantime. 

They might have because I still don't have any messages. Maybe this has something to do with the fact that I've been using the site for many years and have bought a lot of products?
Update: You can now buy directly using USDT (ERC20 and soon other blockchains) to pay for your gift cards in Bitrefill.

[bitrefill]

^{- They might've switched to a dynamic type of fee.}

Oh, that fee reducation sounds great. I just checked them out, but unfortunately I doubt that the fees are dynamic, since I am shown the same amount. 

-snip-
I'll check the fees again tonight, but maybe @bitrefill can clear things up in the meantime. 

They might have because I still don't have any messages. Maybe this has something to do with the fact that I've been using the site for many years and have bought a lot of products?
Update: You can now buy directly using USDT (ERC20 and soon other blockchains) to pay for your gift cards in Bitrefill.

Hello gang, we have reduced the deposit fee for low amounts, it is not dynamic.

[bullrun2024bro]

Hello gang, we have reduced the deposit fee for low amounts, it is not dynamic.

Hey @bitrefill! Thanks for your reply.

One more question: Do you plan to add more gift cards for the German market soon (e.g. Food deliveries (Lieferando, Wolt etc.); Supermarkets (Penny, Edeka) or chemist's (DM, Rossmann)?

Compared to other countries, there are relatively few gift card offers for the German market.

[OmegaStarScream]

@bullrun2020bro Have you checked Coinsbee? You'll probably find what you're looking for there since they're a german service.
Has anyone experienced receiving SMS from Bitrefill whenever they top up their phones? Sometimes it happens, and sometimes it's only the phone operator. Any idea on what could be triggering that and how to stop it?

[bitrefill]

Hello gang, we have reduced the deposit fee for low amounts, it is not dynamic.

Hey @bitrefill! Thanks for your reply.

One more question: Do you plan to add more gift cards for the German market soon (e.g. Food deliveries (Lieferando, Wolt etc.); Supermarkets (Penny, Edeka) or chemist's (DM, Rossmann)?

Compared to other countries, there are relatively few gift card offers for the German market.

Hello! please fill your requests here so we can consider them: https://bitrefill.typeform.com/to/ebD2b2Gs

@bullrun2020bro Have you checked Coinsbee? You'll probably find what you're looking for there since they're a german service.
Has anyone experienced receiving SMS from Bitrefill whenever they top up their phones? Sometimes it happens, and sometimes it's only the phone operator. Any idea on what could be triggering that and how to stop it?

Hello, you mean the SMS to inform you about the refill successful right? if you have any questions or requests please write to support@bitrefill.com and our team will help you there.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

[bullrun2024bro]

@bullrun2020bro Have you checked Coinsbee? You'll probably find what you're looking for there since they're a german service.

Thanks a lot for your suggestion, but unfortunately Coinsbee has even less gift cards available. They recently added a few new gift cards and announced this on the German local board:

https://www.coinsbee.com/de/shop

Stores like IKEA, Saturn, MediaMarkt oder ASOS are now available on their platform. Unfortunately they haven't added any of the gift cards mentioned in my previous post yet. Nevertheless, they have announced that more gift cards will be added in the near future.

Hello! please fill your requests here so we can consider them: https://bitrefill.typeform.com/to/ebD2b2Gs

Okay, strange. Why can't you consider them, if I post them here? Especially if you read them already. 

[frodocooper]

It appears that a customer can no longer buy a prepaid Mastercard or Visa virtual credit card from Coinsbee without first signing up for a Coinsbee account. Also, it appears that they have updated their privacy policy to give themselves more leeway in their use of collected user data and to change the name of the company that operates the Coinsbee service from "TSMH GmbH" to "Coinsbee GmbH."

[OmegaStarScream]

It appears that a customer can no longer buy a prepaid Mastercard or Visa virtual credit card from Coinsbee without first signing up for a Coinsbee account.

I can't say this is surprising but again, I don't think it makes much difference because PrepaidDigitalSolutions can always ask for your personal documents if you ever redeemed a large number of codes.
I can see that some GCs (PCS France for instance) cannot be bought anymore due to some of them being region-locked, which is strange since these are cards that you're supposed to be able to give to people... Is there any workaround for this? I assume that they're showing the warning message based on my location but trying to find a proper VPN for many countries (I'm not sure how many cards have this issue) is not something I'm interested in doing. :/

[LeGaulois]

@OmegaStarScream

France was supposed to strengthen the laws concerning these means of payment, that's perhaps why.

As for PCS, did you try with an IP based in Europe? Because the service is restricted to European citizens. Not sure if it's something new. And when you visit Coinsbee you can notice on the PCS' page the only area you can select in Europe, which corresponds to the PCS policy.

If you take a voucher for Toneofirst (which is also French) it's the same thing and the service is restricted to French citizens

@bullrun2020bro

Did you ever try to pay with an Ikea voucher? Just to know if there is a restriction or something similar. I don't want to get a surprise at the last moment

[bullrun2024bro]

@bullrun2020bro

Did you ever try to pay with an Ikea voucher? Just to know if there is a restriction or something similar. I don't want to get a surprise at the last moment

Sorry for the late reply. I haven't checked the thread in a while. I used the German IKEA voucher several times so far (online and offline in one of their stores). You just scan the code and enter the pin. You just have to keep in mind that you have to wait at least 48 hours until you can use the voucher (sometimes it can even take 72 hours).



Source: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/ikea-germany/?hl=en

[LeGaulois]

Thanks for the reply. 

I bought something last week but I hesitated to use BTC because I really needed furniture and didn't want to be 'surprised at the last moment. Since I need to change my kitchen soon I guess the next time I will buy a voucher with BTC.

I learn something new today. I didn't even know that the vouchers can be used offline in their stores. I always bought online for a delivery at home directly and never visited a store.

Also, do you mean the voucher is in the form of a barcode with a PIN? And not a voucher with a code like AQHS 5DOC8 NFSV PSP1 (i.e. like Amazon)

[LoyceV]

Also, do you mean the voucher is in the form of a barcode with a PIN? And not a voucher with a code like AQHS 5DOC8 NFSV PSP1 (i.e. like Amazon)

I got a 19 digit number without barcode for IKEA. I guess they just type it in the shop:

Gift card(s) can be used as a complete or partial payment in IKEA stores including online.

I've seen other shops that give vouchers with a barcode.

[bullrun2024bro]

Also, do you mean the voucher is in the form of a barcode with a PIN? And not a voucher with a code like AQHS 5DOC8 NFSV PSP1 (i.e. like Amazon)

When you buy an IKEA voucher, you will receive a QR code and a XXXX-XXXX-XXXX code (these two codes are identical). In addition, you will receive a 4-digit pin code for your voucher.

As you cannot scan the QR code when shopping online, use the XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX and pin on their website. When you visit one of their stores, simply go to one of the self-service checkouts, scan the voucher's QR code and enter the pin and you're all set. You can also use one of the regular checkouts and give the voucher to one of the staff and they will help you. If the QR code does not work, you can also ask the staff to type in the XXXX-XXXX-XXXX code manually.

It will look like this:



Source: bitrefill.com

I learn something new today. I didn't even know that the vouchers can be used offline in their stores. I always bought online for a delivery at home directly and never visited a store.

You can also use REWE (groceries), MediaMarkt or Saturn (electronics) vouchers while shopping "offline". You simply print out your gift card and give it to one of the staff at the checkout, who will then scan it for you.

[Elderbberry]

It appears that a customer can no longer buy a prepaid Mastercard or Visa virtual credit card from Coinsbee without first signing up for a Coinsbee account.

I can't say this is surprising but again, I don't think it makes much difference because PrepaidDigitalSolutions can always ask for your personal documents if you ever redeemed a large number of codes.
I can see that some GCs (PCS France for instance) cannot be bought anymore due to some of them being region-locked, which is strange since these are cards that you're supposed to be able to give to people... Is there any workaround for this? I assume that they're showing the warning message based on my location but trying to find a proper VPN for many countries (I'm not sure how many cards have this issue) is not something I'm interested in doing. :/

I just found out about an actual reliable (at least it seems) method to get visa/mastercard giftcards so as to stay anoynomous protecting my privacy thanks to your amazing thread (apart from ezzocard which is really expensive and from private vcc sellers which seems less reliable :/)).
Though i got some questions  about its practicality if I really plan to use it for this purpose - staying anoynomous for privacy concerns while using mastercard/visa payments. Is it likely in your personal experience that prepaiddigitalsoltions ask for your personal documents if I simply plan to redeem a few (like within 5 codes/year?)?  Besides, that does Coinsbee require verifcation pf your personal information if you register to buy their perpaid cards?

If there are other simialr services that could be of use which came to your mind (anoynomously get Loaded mastercard/visa VCCs/giftcaedy, I’d appreciate it if you could mention it too!

[OmegaStarScream]

I just found out about an actual reliable (at least it seems) method to get visa/mastercard giftcards so as to stay anoynomous protecting my privacy thanks to your amazing thread (apart from ezzocard which is really expensive and from private vcc sellers which seems less reliable :/)).
Though i got some questions  about its practicality if I really plan to use it for this purpose - staying anoynomous for privacy concerns while using mastercard/visa payments. Is it likely in your personal experience that prepaiddigitalsoltions ask for your personal documents if I simply plan to redeem a few (like within 5 codes/year?)?  Besides, that does Coinsbee require verifcation pf your personal information if you register to buy their perpaid cards?

I'm not aware of any other services VCCs and to answer your questions:

Coinsbee shouldn't ask you to verify your identity unless you reach the limit (10,000 EUR) so you're basically safe for two years if the 5 cards you're planning to buy are of 1000 EUR denominations. As for PrepaidDigitalSolutions, then there is always that risk. You can read the warning from Coinsbee's webpage:

If a large number of codes are redeemed on a single account, prepaiddigitalsolutions.com may suspend the account for further investigation. We have no control over this.

Personally, I have bought many cards in the past (never 500/1000 EUR cards though) and never got asked to verify my identity.

Also, before buying, please check their Trustpilot review page before because even though I haven't faced any issues myself, it appears that other people did.

[Coinsbee.com]

It appears that a customer can no longer buy a prepaid Mastercard or Visa virtual credit card from Coinsbee without first signing up for a Coinsbee account.

I can't say this is surprising but again, I don't think it makes much difference because PrepaidDigitalSolutions can always ask for your personal documents if you ever redeemed a large number of codes.
I can see that some GCs (PCS France for instance) cannot be bought anymore due to some of them being region-locked, which is strange since these are cards that you're supposed to be able to give to people... Is there any workaround for this? I assume that they're showing the warning message based on my location but trying to find a proper VPN for many countries (I'm not sure how many cards have this issue) is not something I'm interested in doing. :/

I just found out about an actual reliable (at least it seems) method to get visa/mastercard giftcards so as to stay anoynomous protecting my privacy thanks to your amazing thread (apart from ezzocard which is really expensive and from private vcc sellers which seems less reliable :/)).
Though i got some questions  about its practicality if I really plan to use it for this purpose - staying anoynomous for privacy concerns while using mastercard/visa payments. Is it likely in your personal experience that prepaiddigitalsoltions ask for your personal documents if I simply plan to redeem a few (like within 5 codes/year?)?  Besides, that does Coinsbee require verifcation pf your personal information if you register to buy their perpaid cards?

If there are other simialr services that could be of use which came to your mind (anoynomously get Loaded mastercard/visa VCCs/giftcaedy, I’d appreciate it if you could mention it too!

for Visa and Master Prepaid cards we have to ask for the address and name (thats new). And above the limits we have to check the personal data in detail. See below.

"From an amount of 1.000€ we are obliged to request the personal data.
From a payment of more than 10.000€ per day a verification by identity card is necessary.
From a payment of more than 15.000€ is one is a verification by identity card and an address comparison necessary."

[orangelemon]

for Visa and Master Prepaid cards we have to ask for the address and name (thats new). And above the limits we have to check the personal data in detail. See below.

"From an amount of 1.000€ we are obliged to request the personal data.
From a payment of more than 10.000€ per day a verification by identity card is necessary.
From a payment of more than 15.000€ is one is a verification by identity card and an address comparison necessary."

@Coinsbee.com
Why you not responding to Ticket 801082

You guys sent Fake/wrong code for Fort Nite Vbucks
ORDER-ID : 16204614366096477cd336c

OP Please take Action against coinbee.com

[OmegaStarScream]

@Coinsbee.com
Why you not responding to Ticket 801082

You guys sent Fake/wrong code for Fort Nite Vbucks
ORDER-ID : 16204614366096477cd336c

OP Please take Action against coinbee.com

In case you haven't noticed, they already responded to you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182163.msg56963644#msg56963644

Also, I can't take action without proof and a proper scam accusation. I'm pretty sure your problem will get solved. Please keep us updated.

[ChuckBuck]

@Coinsbee.com
Why you not responding to Ticket 801082

You guys sent Fake/wrong code for Fort Nite Vbucks
ORDER-ID : 16204614366096477cd336c

OP Please take Action against coinbee.com

I don't think this is the right place for you to ask for their feedback. Looks like you've already created a support ticket, if the problem is really big you can create another thread in the reputation section and ask them to respond there. Hope you get a reply soon!

[orangelemon]

@Coinsbee.com
Why you not responding to Ticket 801082

You guys sent Fake/wrong code for Fort Nite Vbucks
ORDER-ID : 16204614366096477cd336c

OP Please take Action against coinbee.com

In case you haven't noticed, they already responded to you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182163.msg56963644#msg56963644

Also, I can't take action without proof and a proper scam accusation. I'm pretty sure your problem will get solved. Please keep us updated.

@OmegaStarScream Problem was solved, sorry for delayed update

[OmegaStarScream]

@OmegaStarScream Problem was solved, sorry for delayed update

No worries, glad you've got things sorted out. Do you mind telling us what was the problem exactly and how did they solve it?

[LeGaulois]

Since Ikea is now open here (closed with the lockdown) I finally finished my kitchen! Can't believe.
Made 100% with bitcoin via gift cards on Coinsbee and Bitrefill (perhaps I bought a voucher for Amazon too) and 1 trade.

You can't imagine how hard I worked to get everything done. Between the electricity, tiling, painting, and furnishings, and plumbing. Not to mention a wall that I screwed up twice lol.

I "plagiarised" or "paraphrased" this one, nothing fancy, but I'm so happy with it. With a dishwasher, no more dishwashing chores  


source:leroymerlin.fr

I wanted a bathroom with the colors of Amsterdam and its red-light district. So I'm finishing to plagiarise this one


source:colora.be

Yeah I know, ladies color lol
I'm seriously thinking of painting a big bitcoin logo in white on 1 wall  

[bullrun2024bro]

Since Ikea is now open here (closed with the lockdown) I finally finished my kitchen! Can't believe.
Made 100% with bitcoin via gift cards on Coinsbee and Bitrefill (perhaps I bought a voucher for Amazon too) and 1 trade.

You can't imagine how hard I worked to get everything done. Between the electricity, tiling, painting, and furnishings, and plumbing. Not to mention a wall that I screwed up twice lol.

I "plagiarised" or "paraphrased" this one, nothing fancy, but I'm so happy with it. With a dishwasher, no more dishwashing chores  

Wow! Sweet! Your new kitchen looks great! I am happy that everything went smoothly with the gift cards. But you do realise that if you have a new kitchen now, we'll be expecting a top performance from you next year for Bitcoin Pizza Day, right? 

I recently tried out the Otto and the Cyberport gift cards on Bitrefill. Both worked fine without an issue.

If someone is looking for electronics, keep in mind that it's Amazon Prime Day next week (21/22.06). On these days there are usually particularly good offers.

[OmegaStarScream]

Updates:

- It's now possible to use USDT (TRC-20) to buy from Bitrefill. You can't load your account with it though.
- Coinsbee has integrated Binance Pay: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182163.msg57222667#msg57222667

For those who are not familiar with Binance Pay, it's a service that Binance released a few weeks ago which allows you to send/receive crypto with zero fees. The service is obviously centralized and requires KYC, but if you're already verified, you might as well just use it.
I haven't checked the other services for some time, so if you think I missed something important, please let me know so I update the topic.

[bullrun2024bro]

Updates:

- It's now possible to use USDT (TRC-20) to buy from Bitrefill. You can't load your account with it though.

Ah, thanks for the update buddy! Even if I am not the biggest fan of Tron, TRC-20 is a pretty good way to save some transaction fees. If you don't load your account with Bitcoins in advance, the current fees for instant transactions are pretty high. Especially when the network is as full as it has been in recent months. That's why it's great to see Bitrefill steadily expanding its offers.

I will try it out in the next few days/weeks and then report back here.

For those who are not familiar with Binance Pay, it's a service that Binance released a few weeks ago which allows you to send/receive crypto with zero fees. The service is obviously centralized and requires KYC, but if you're already verified, you might as well just use it.

If you have to do KYC with Binance anyway, I would advise using the Binance credit card. Here you save more through the cashback program compared to buying gift cards from Coinsbee. Especially if you own plenty of BNB.

[SFR10]

I haven't checked the other services for some time, so if you think I missed something important, please let me know so I update the topic.

It looks like Coincards has a few significant changes in regards to "Underpaid/Late Paid Invoices":

Below, you will find a brief summary of the significant changes:

• When a refund is required, Coincards.com will only process refunds in Bitcoin. Any altcoin payments will be converted to their bitcoin equivalent and will need to be processed in Bitcoin only. Bitcoin refunds include both on-chain, or off-chain (Lightning) payments.
• When an invoice is paid after the expiry timer, the invoice will be automatically processed at the current rate if there was no drop in value since the time of invoice. If the exchange rate has dropped since the invoice expiry, the value of the card will be automatically reduced. If we cannot reduce the amount of the card for any reason, we will contact the customer for a refund in bitcoin.
• When an invoice is underpaid, the value of the card will be automatically reduced and processed. If we cannot reduce the amount of the card for any reason, we will contact the customer for a refund in bitcoin.

If you don't load your account with Bitcoins in advance, the current fees for instant transactions are pretty high.

AFAICR, fees have been quite low in the past couple of weeks or so: mempool.space

[Elderbberry]

I just found out about an actual reliable (at least it seems) method to get visa/mastercard giftcards so as to stay anoynomous protecting my privacy thanks to your amazing thread (apart from ezzocard which is really expensive and from private vcc sellers which seems less reliable :/)).
Though i got some questions  about its practicality if I really plan to use it for this purpose - staying anoynomous for privacy concerns while using mastercard/visa payments. Is it likely in your personal experience that prepaiddigitalsoltions ask for your personal documents if I simply plan to redeem a few (like within 5 codes/year?)?  Besides, that does Coinsbee require verifcation pf your personal information if you register to buy their perpaid cards?

I'm not aware of any other services VCCs and to answer your questions:

Coinsbee shouldn't ask you to verify your identity unless you reach the limit (10,000 EUR) so you're basically safe for two years if the 5 cards you're planning to buy are of 1000 EUR denominations. As for PrepaidDigitalSolutions, then there is always that risk. You can read the warning from Coinsbee's webpage:

If a large number of codes are redeemed on a single account, prepaiddigitalsolutions.com may suspend the account for further investigation. We have no control over this.

Personally, I have bought many cards in the past (never 500/1000 EUR cards though) and never got asked to verify my identity.

Also, before buying, please check their Trustpilot review page before because even though I haven't faced any issues myself, it appears that other people did.

I know its a bit late but thanks for your detailed reply! Its really helpful!
As a side note though it seems that coinsbee are no longer stocking Mastercards/ Visas VCCs now

[OmegaStarScream]

I know its a bit late but thanks for your detailed reply! Its really helpful!
As a side note though it seems that coinsbee are no longer stocking Mastercards/ Visas VCCs now

If you're still interested in buying a few, you could ask them here or just email the support: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182163.260;topicseen

I wouldn't be surprised if they're not going to restock it again since the amount of people having issues with the cards is only increasing.

[LeGaulois]

@SteepPepper

  Very kind of you to post such video. You don't know what it feels like to click on such link when there are children in the room. I'll have to explain that to the parents.

I now wonder the credibility of your claim. At least searching a bit about this company, I wouldn't even bother to try it. See what I mean
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/ezzocard.com?stars=1
Their card doesn't work everywhere, and sometimes there is no money on...

For sure I'm not looking for an alternative to Prepaiddigitalsolution. Enough garbage

[Kittygalore]

Are there any gift card sellers in the Philippines, I only saw in the OP, US and CA so I was curious if there's one available in my country. Hopefully, a Steam Gift Card or an Amazon can at least be available, don't really want to get out of my house to buy Steam gift cards due to pandemic.

[SFR10]

Are there any gift card sellers in the Philippines, I only saw in the OP, US and CA so I was curious if there's one available in my country. Hopefully, a Steam Gift Card or an Amazon can at least be available, don't really want to get out of my house to buy Steam gift cards due to pandemic.

Yes, there are plenty of gift cards for the Philippines in both "Bitrefill" and "Coinsbee ^{[select PH as its region]}".
^{- None of them had one for Amazon PH [not sure if it exists] but both of them have gift cards for Steam PH.}
I'd suggest checking other providers as well.

[OmegaStarScream]

Are there any gift card sellers in the Philippines, I only saw in the OP, US and CA so I was curious if there's one available in my country. Hopefully, a Steam Gift Card or an Amazon can at least be available, don't really want to get out of my house to buy Steam gift cards due to pandemic.

There is no Amazon PH as mentioned above but you can always use a reship company like MyUS or Shipito to shop from the Amazon U.S or any other US store, and then ship the goods to your place. Obviously, though, that would cost a bit more compared to shipping directly to your place so I'd personally recommend investing in a prime membership and also consolidate packages to save money, especially if you're planning to shop on a regular basis.

[DaveF]

Are there any gift card sellers in the Philippines, I only saw in the OP, US and CA so I was curious if there's one available in my country. Hopefully, a Steam Gift Card or an Amazon can at least be available, don't really want to get out of my house to buy Steam gift cards due to pandemic.

There is no Amazon PH as mentioned above but you can always use a reship company like MyUS or Shipito to shop from the Amazon U.S or any other US store, and then ship the goods to your place. Obviously, though, that would cost a bit more compared to shipping directly to your place so I'd personally recommend investing in a prime membership and also consolidate packages to save money, especially if you're planning to shop on a regular basis.

Keep in mind, to use giftcards on Amazon US you MUST have a VALID US based payment method. So you would have to get a VCC with some $ on it and have it's address match the shipping address where you are sending stuff. Then you can use US giftcards. They do ping the card every now and then to make sure it's still valid. No charge, just an authorization for $1.00 most people don't even see it.

-Dave

[OmegaStarScream]

Keep in mind, to use giftcards on Amazon US you MUST have a VALID US based payment method. So you would have to get a VCC with some $ on it and have it's address match the shipping address where you are sending stuff. Then you can use US giftcards. They do ping the card every now and then to make sure it's still valid. No charge, just an authorization for $1.00 most people don't even see it.

-Dave

Is this a new thing? I used to shop from Amazon U.S all the time and I never had to link a credit card before. I just buy gift cards from other individuals on Paxful, redeem the cards, and then ship the goods to my package forwarding company's address.

[LeGaulois]

It's perhaps an advice given, because in some countries Amazon has the habit of suspending accounts that only use gift cards and don't have a registered credit card first.

At least in my country, if you just opened your Amazon account and you pay for your first purchase with a gift card, you have a 50% chance of having your account suspended the same day (or once the package is in preparation. So you're not even sure if you'll receive your order).
Only using gift cards for all your orders seems to be also something not really appreciated for Amazon.

@DaveF mentionned to add a VCC but I advice to take cautious doing it. Years ago they suspended my account after I added a VCC (funny to remember about it, it was a VCC given by PrepaiDigitalSolution). It took me months to get my account back, since Amazon wanted me to send fax with bank statement, ID card, ect.

If someone really wants to add a VCC, better to use a VCC issued by a bank.
Just sharing my last experience with Bitrefill's support. I contacted them and 5 days later only 1 reply and the problem was still going on. No choice to contact them via Twitter and my problem was resolved 10 minutes later. I would have liked the customer service to be as fast. (no grudges)

[LoyceV]

Is this a new thing? I used to shop from Amazon U.S all the time and I never had to link a credit card before. I just buy gift cards from other individuals on Paxful, redeem the cards, and then ship the goods to my package forwarding company's address.

I've read stories of Amazon blocking accounts when a (large) gift card was redeemed. Obviously they don't want to risk shipping items bought with a gift card that was stolen or obtained in other illegal ways.
Adding a creditcard ensures they can make you pay when needed.

[bullrun2024bro]

I've read stories of Amazon blocking accounts when a (large) gift card was redeemed. Obviously they don't want to risk shipping items bought with a gift card that was stolen or obtained in other illegal ways.
Adding a creditcard ensures they can make you pay when needed.

This! A friend of mine recently used about €5k in Bitrefill Amazon gift cards to buy a TV and some other large items. Before making his purchase with the gift cards, he added a credit card to his Amazon account to be safe.

With this precaution, he had no problems making his purchases.


Has anyone had any experience with Hotels.com (USD) gift cards? Since I am able to buy them in Europe, do these also work if you have an account that has only done EUR transactions so far?

go to hotels.com
choose country USA and currency USD
search for your destination
If given the choice select "pay now"
Pay with your gift card

Source: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/hotels_com-usa/?hl=en

I don't really get the explanation, tbh. Any idea if it works with EUR accounts?

[LeGaulois]

@bullrun2020bro

It's because you can pay with another currency than euro. It's like when you shop on Aliexpress, you can change the currency with dollars.  

And here the trick: when you change to pay in USD, you pay cheaper (at least on Ali). Provided that you have a bank card that doesn't charge a convertion fee EUR/USD, then you save money   (otherwise the FX rate is about 2.5% with VISA and Mastercard IICRC)

Since Bitrefill's gift cards are in USD, that's why it says to change the currency to USD. Because you will have to pay in dollars.

But just to let you know that you can't split your purchase over several cards or payment methods.

[DaveF]

Keep in mind, to use giftcards on Amazon US you MUST have a VALID US based payment method. So you would have to get a VCC with some $ on it and have it's address match the shipping address where you are sending stuff. Then you can use US giftcards. They do ping the card every now and then to make sure it's still valid. No charge, just an authorization for $1.00 most people don't even see it.

-Dave

Is this a new thing? I used to shop from Amazon U.S all the time and I never had to link a credit card before. I just buy gift cards from other individuals on Paxful, redeem the cards, and then ship the goods to my package forwarding company's address.

Somewhat. It appears to be random, but being added to all accounts. I have had to have a CC on mine since early 2019. Julie got hit with it sometime in mid 2020 and the work account was forced to add one back in May. I have had friends mention it too.

I am guessing it's a slow rollout, but once they hit you, no more GC till you put on a CC.

Nothing to do with amounts as far as I can tell since most of our Amazon shopping is done on Julie's account [no real reason just worked out that way] but I can say that the spend on that account is WAYYYYY above mine.

-Dave

[bullrun2024bro]

Coinsbee has plenty of new gift cards available (at least for the German region). They also allow various altcoin payments (50 in total, I guess). Unfortunately, however, a minimum purchase is required to use (smaller) altcoins.

For example if you want to use Binance Coin or Binance USD you need to shop for at least 0.7 BNB, which is currently about $250.

Nevertheless, the new range of gift cards is quite appealing. Definitely an alternative to Bitrefill. I really like that they added a few super markets, drugstores and fast food chains.

[Coinsbee.com]

We added in total 1500 Giftcard brands. We also have now 100 different cryptocoins which u can use to pay.
For Binance User we offer Binance Pay. So no transactionfee and time for them.

[SFR10]

Unfortunately, however, a minimum purchase is required to use (smaller) altcoins.

For example if you want to use Binance Coin or Binance USD you need to shop for at least 0.7 BNB, which is currently about $250.

I believe one of their payment processors ^[CoinGate] should take the blame instead and they also have similar restrictions when it comes to higher amounts.
^{- As a workaround, you can use Binance Pay [if you're one of its users].}

Update:

It appears so. For some reason, CoinGate is pulling that amount from Changelly? https://support.coingate.com/en/66/what-is-the-minimum-amount-for-altcoin-payments

That's strange! Just did a test and that's exactly the case: Screenshot

[OmegaStarScream]

Unfortunately, however, a minimum purchase is required to use (smaller) altcoins.

For example if you want to use Binance Coin or Binance USD you need to shop for at least 0.7 BNB, which is currently about $250.

I believe one of their payment processors ^[CoinGate] should take the blame instead and they also have similar restrictions when it comes to higher amounts.
^{- As a workaround, you can use Binance Pay [if you're one of its users].}

It appears so. For some reason, CoinGate is pulling that amount from Changelly? https://support.coingate.com/en/66/what-is-the-minimum-amount-for-altcoin-payments
Another workaround if you're not willing to KYC and use Binance Pay is to use Okex.com. Send whatever coin you want to pay with to the exchange, trade it for BTC, withdraw it through the lightning network, and then pay your Coinsbee invoice using LN as well. I believe Okex has all the altcoins supported by CoinGate, except for the Binance's coins.

[bullrun2024bro]

It appears so. For some reason, CoinGate is pulling that amount from Changelly? https://support.coingate.com/en/66/what-is-the-minimum-amount-for-altcoin-payments
Another workaround if you're not willing to KYC and use Binance Pay is to use Okex.com. Send whatever coin you want to pay with to the exchange, trade it for BTC, withdraw it through the lightning network, and then pay your Coinsbee invoice using LN as well. I believe Okex has all the altcoins supported by CoinGate, except for the Binance's coins.

Good idea, thanks! I also don't see much advantage in using Binance Pay. If you want to verify with Binance via KYC anyway, you might as well use the Binance credit card and earn cash back on their platform. If you have enough BNB, the cash back is much higher than what you get on Bitrefill or Coinsbee.

I will try the workaround via Okex.com when I have some free time. I am using BTC or some major alts most of the time anyway. So it's not really an issue.

(I am OOM as always, will merit your posts once I get some!)

[LeGaulois]

Guys.

Bitrefill removed the Bitrefill Balance Card? :/
It's the 3rd day I log in to check but don"t see it anymore (EUR, as well USD). It was something useful when you wanted to avoid volatility. I now have some bucks on my account that I can't spend since there is always a minimum purchase

Am I blind or?

It was something useful when you wanted to avoid volatility.

You can still fund your account with Bitcoin to fix the exchange rate: Click Account > Add Funds > From Bitcoin (Lightning) to EUR/USD.

I'm dumb

Thanks


 

[SFR10]

Bitrefill removed the Bitrefill Balance Card? :/
It's the 3rd day I log in to check but don"t see it anymore (EUR, as well USD). It was something useful when you wanted to avoid volatility. I now have some bucks on my account that I can't spend since there is always a minimum purchase

Am I blind or?

It no longer shows up in the search results ^{[through Bitrefill]}, but I did manage ^{[thanks to Google]} to find their links and it seems that they'll be introducing an improved version soon:

• Bitrefill Balance Card (USD)
• Bitrefill Balance Card (EUR)

Code:

We are currently working on a new improved Gift Card. Check out similar products

[LoyceV]

It was something useful when you wanted to avoid volatility.

You can still fund your account with Bitcoin to fix the exchange rate: Click Account > Add Funds > From Bitcoin (Lightning) to EUR/USD.

[bullrun2024bro]

Guys.

Bitrefill removed the Bitrefill Balance Card? :/
It's the 3rd day I log in to check but don"t see it anymore (EUR, as well USD). It was something useful when you wanted to avoid volatility. I now have some bucks on my account that I can't spend since there is always a minimum purchase

Am I blind or?

Is it possible that the general search settings have changed recently?

I was looking for some gift cards earlier today and couldn't find them through the regular search on "browse products". After I logged in, they were strangely available via the search option. I first thought that it might be an IP problem, but using a VPN didn't bring any change either. Very strange.

[DaveF]

Guys.

Bitrefill removed the Bitrefill Balance Card? :/
It's the 3rd day I log in to check but don"t see it anymore (EUR, as well USD). It was something useful when you wanted to avoid volatility. I now have some bucks on my account that I can't spend since there is always a minimum purchase
Am I blind or?

Is it possible that the general search settings have changed recently?

As LoyceV said, you can always just fund your account but this just added a step to the process.
The only downside is you can't get one and give it to somebody which was what I did a few times when I was out of gift ideas.

At a 100% guess, it probably had something to do with the way they were dealing with funds and how they were being held in terms of banking regulation.
But that is just a guess.

-Dave

[LeGaulois]

Yes, it's possible to be out of stock, but it's usually mentioned on the page and you can't purchase any..
Congrats if you won the gift card but I wonder how you won it considering the site says the winner will be announced on November 30th

After the movie Back to the future, we have Going to the Past?

(the post has been deleted while posting my reply to the person)

@DaveF

You could print the gift card for someone IRL or share the URL. I discovered the feature not long ago, each voucher has its own URL. https://www. bitrefill.com/order/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
All you have to do is to give the URL to the person. Shrink the URL with Bitly and alike to make it more swag
(example: bit.ly/happybirthdayhoney). Or make a QR code of the page to share via message text or whatever you want.


@bullrun2020bro

I've never experienced it before. I directly log in and buy what I need. Maybe some gift cards are only available to registered users?
Registered users = IP collected. For some vouchers, I can understand (PCS, Toneo, etc), but if it works while behind a VPN/VPS there is no sense then


Out of topic but I'm just curious. Do you guys still have Amazon Pantry in your country? It was so good

[DaveF]

Out of topic but I'm just curious. Do you guys still have Amazon Pantry in your country? It was so good

Amazon Pantry went away everywhere.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/8/22220331/amazon-pantry-discontinued-prime-grocery-delivery-services
https://progressivegrocer.com/amazon-prime-pantry-phased-out

Here in the US the food delivery is now part of Amazon Fresh / Whole Foods. Same thing, different name.

Back to giftcards (for the US people) any ideas for crypto -> giftcards for a place that sells tires, other then walmart?

-Dave

[LoyceV]

You could print the gift card for someone IRL or share the URL. I discovered the feature not long ago, each voucher has its own URL. https://www. bitrefill.com/order/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
All you have to do is to give the URL to the person. Shrink the URL with Bitly and alike to make it more swag
(example: bit.ly/happybirthdayhoney).

Slight warning: I wouldn't expose the URL with gift code to an URL shortener, that way you risk someone else accessing it.

[OmegaStarScream]

• Bitrefill Balance Card (USD)
• Bitrefill Balance Card (EUR)

Code:

We are currently working on a new improved Gift Card. Check out similar products

I'm going to assume that this is the new improved version[1][2] they were referring to?

I couldn't find any announcements though, nor can I understand what the "account number" is all about since users don't seem to have any unique IDs.

[1] https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/bitrefill-deposit-usd/?hl=en
[2] https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/bitrefill-deposit-eur/?hl=en

[LeGaulois]

Myself when I gave it a try, I tried to use the ID in my referral link, (after /?code=) and got a message saying "Number .......... refused for operator bitrefill-deposit-eur"
Then I tried to use my email and got a message saying "This product is a beta product that is not enabled for your account".

I supposed this Beta version wasn't enabled yet to users. When I contacted them on Twitter to ask about it, They told me they'll escalate this to the engineer team. So I guess the guys have forgotten something before opening the beta version

They added Uber recently

[OmegaStarScream]

-snip-

I've also reached out to them through their live chat, they said it's a technical issue and they're working on it, no ETA given though. I'll make sure to post an update once its working again.

[DaveF]

Has anyone noticed that the BTC to USD price for bitrefilll has been really bad vs. the shown preev & coinbase rates for the last few days?

They always had a bit worse of a rate, and I do know that they are a business out to make money so I did not let it bother me. But twice in the last few days I was going to buy a gift card and wound up thinking "Nah, too much of a cut"

And then, a few hours later it's normal again.

-Dave

[LoyceV]

@DaveF: I just checked: for €1000 at Amazon.de I'd pay exactly (up to a few sats) the preev.com rate. But for $1000 at Amazon.com I'd pay about 2.4% more.

Amazon.nl is even more fun: a €10 coupon costs €11.04. The .de doesn't have this markup.

[OmegaStarScream]

Does anyone know what happened to Netflix smaller denominations? I used to buy 15$ cards from both Bitrefill and Coinsbee, but they're now gone, from both. Not sure if it's a coincidence and they're simply out of stock or Netflix is no longer issuing them? I checked all the services listed, and none of them have Netflix GCs, so I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to a service that sells them.

[SFR10]

I used to buy 15$ cards from both Bitrefill and Coinsbee, but they're now gone, from both.
~Snipped~
I checked all the services listed, and none of them have Netflix GCs, so I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to a service that sells them.

You didn't mention its region, so I'm assuming that it's probably Netflix USA. If I was correct, then looks like the "Canadian version of Coincards" still has it in stock ^{[I prefer to not vouch]}, and based on the following quote, you can use it in your account ^{[in theory it should work, but I'm not a Netflix user]}:

• Redeem a Netflix gift card purchased in a different country
  You can use a gift card purchased in a different country as long as the gift card is in the same currency as your Netflix bill.

Updated:

The thing is Canada and The USA use different currencies...

Yes, I do know that but I read the following Reddit post ^{[a bit old so it might be outdated and I couldn't find that exact information on the Netflix website]} last night and it said it's possible:

• You should be okay. According to the Netflix website their gift cards are good to go in Canada and the US regardless of your region.

[LeGaulois]

The thing is Canada and The USA use different currencies...
Netflix vouchers are targeted, for example, Netflix EUR may only work in Eurozone. The same as Amazon vouchers.


 @OmegaStarScream

The €25 cards are too high? Because I see them available on Bitrefill



So I don't believe Netflix stopped issuing GC vouchers, it's probably coming from the partners they're using as a middleman

[bullrun2024bro]

Does anyone know what happened to Netflix smaller denominations? I used to buy 15$ cards from both Bitrefill and Coinsbee, but they're now gone, from both. Not sure if it's a coincidence and they're simply out of stock or Netflix is no longer issuing them? I checked all the services listed, and none of them have Netflix GCs, so I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to a service that sells them.

I've had issues with Netflix and DAZN gift cards on Bitrefill a few times. I usually buy the smallest amount available, but the last three purchases I have made, my purchase was refunded. Unfortunately, the transaction fees were lost. Pretty disappointing. When I clicked on "Buy", the vouchers were shown to me as available. However, the purchase failed and subsequently the gift cards were displayed as "Out of Stock".

The €25 cards are too high? Because I see them available on Bitrefill

Did someone try the €25 cards?

[DaveF]

Does anyone know what happened to Netflix smaller denominations? I used to buy 15$ cards from both Bitrefill and Coinsbee, but they're now gone, from both. Not sure if it's a coincidence and they're simply out of stock or Netflix is no longer issuing them? I checked all the services listed, and none of them have Netflix GCs, so I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to a service that sells them.

Going to guess that with the price increases that Netflix has done / will be doing the $15 cards may no longer cover a month of service by next year:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/22/netflix-could-raise-prices-again-soon/
So getting rid of them beforehand may just be the 1st step in doing that.

I think over the next few years we are going to continue to be seeing a lot of $1 here and there price increases on streaming services till they find the consumer pain point.
Which then means (I think) that we are going to start to see things like this where gift cards start at larger amounts.

-Dave

[OmegaStarScream]

ntion its region, so I'm assuming that it's probably Netflix USA. If I was correct, then looks like the "Canadian version of Coincards" still has it in stock ^{[I prefer to not vouch]}, and based on the following quote, you can use it in your account.

Yes, I'm looking for the U.S one.

The link you gave me is not leading anywhere though (404 not found) and searching for "netflix" in the Canadian version is not returning any results: https://coincards.com/ca/?s=netflix&post_type=product

-snip-
 @OmegaStarScream

The €25 cards are too high? Because I see them available on Bitrefill

-snip-
So I don't believe Netflix stopped issuing GC vouchers, it's probably coming from the partners they're using as a middleman

Did someone try the €25 cards?

I'm not sure about the CAD cards, but for EUR, I know they won't work as I already tested that, IIRC the gift card currency should match the currency of the payment method linked to the account. 25 EUR is basically no different from 30$ anyway.

@bullrun2020bro You mean buying the cards or redeeming them?

[SFR10]

Yes, I'm looking for the U.S one.

I sent Bitrefill an email and I was quite surprised at how quickly they've responded back:
^{- It's safe to say that the $15 denomination will still exist}

• Hello,
  
  Thank you for reaching out and I am sorry for the inconvenience.
   
  The $15 denomination for Netflix USA is currently out of stock but our supplier should have it back in 1-3 business days.
   
  Please let us know if you have any questions or if there is anything else we can help you with. I hope you are having a great week!
  
  Thank you,
  Sharon

The link you gave me is not leading anywhere though (404 not found) and searching for "netflix" in the Canadian version is not returning any results: https://coincards.com/ca/?s=netflix&post_type=product

That's strange, you're right but it comes and goes ^{[quite weird]}: Here's an "archived" version that I ​took earlier.
^{- Despite its availability on CoinCards, I'd suggest waiting a few more days for Bitrefill to refill it.}

[bullrun2024bro]

@bullrun2020bro You mean buying the cards or redeeming them?

Actually both! My subscription is about to expire and I would like to renew it.


By the way, the DAZN cards are very funny now. If you are not logged in, you see the cards as available in Germany. If you log in and click on add to cart, they are no longer available. At least I didn't waste any transaction fees again. Progress! 

[OmegaStarScream]

Actually both! My subscription is about to expire and I would like to renew it.
-snip-

Well, personally I've never had any issues buying the EUR cards from Bitrefill. I'm not that familiar with their refunding process, but it's a struggle when you're paying directly from your crypto wallet, then it may be a better idea to buy using your account balance.

As for redeeming the card, then you shouldn't have a problem either as long as you choose the correct currency (EUR) otherwise it won't work.

[OmegaStarScream]

Anyone here familiar with Google play gift cards? I keep getting the following error:

Couldn't redeem this code. This code can only be used in United States.

I remember having this issue the first time I redeemed a card but I fixed it by changing my country (in my account settings) to the U.S and using a VPN. I tried to do the same thing but still getting that message. Any thoughts?

[pugman]

Anyone here familiar with Google play gift cards? I keep getting the following error:

Couldn't redeem this code. This code can only be used in United States.

I remember having this issue the first time I redeemed a card but I fixed it by changing my country (in my account settings) to the U.S and using a VPN. I tried to do the same thing but still getting that message. Any thoughts?

Okay so I looked it up, some of the solutions were:

- Change your region currency to USD. This seemed to be the most goto option which seemed to solve it.

- Using a secondary device and formatting it and setting the country as US to default although I think you don't need to necessarily format, you can clear your Google play data and try it, it might just work. There's one reddit solution here: https://www.reddit.com/r/googleplay/comments/pad3xp/couldnt_redeem_this_code_this_code_can_only_be/

[OmegaStarScream]

- Change your region currency to USD. This seemed to be the most goto option which seemed to solve it.

- Using a secondary device and formatting it and setting the country as US to default although I think you don't need to necessarily format, you can clear your Google play data and try it, it might just work. There's one reddit solution here: https://www.reddit.com/r/googleplay/comments/pad3xp/couldnt_redeem_this_code_this_code_can_only_be/

As I said, I've already tried that and my account is already from the U.S. I can't change it even if I wanted to unless I provide a new payment method from a different country. Still no luck :/
Update: Bitrefill has partnered with Binance, so you can now pay using your Binance Pay without any fees.

[bullrun2024bro]

Update: Bitrefill has partnered with Binance, so you can now pay using your Binance Pay without any fees.

Full infos here:



Source: https://twitter.com/bitrefill/status/1449316634150293504
Link to the blog-post: https://blog.bitrefill.com/bitrefill-partners-with-binance-876e2f0ac6c8

Interesting news. Didn't Coinsbee also recently add Binance Pay?

IMHO partnering with Binance is a great way to raise awareness of their service and payment with cryptocurrencies in general. Thumbs up!

[OmegaStarScream]

Interesting news. Didn't Coinsbee also recently add Binance Pay?

They have. CryptoRefills did too: https://pay.binance.com/en/merchant-stores

I wouldn't be surprised if the other gift card providers follow the same steps.

IMHO partnering with Binance is a great way to raise awareness of their service and payment with cryptocurrencies in general. Thumbs up!

True but at the same time, Binance pay is not only custodial but also requires KYC (regardless of how small the transaction is)

[LeGaulois]

@OmegaStarScream Hi

Do you think Cryptorefills.com deserves a place on your list? I discovered it today, and I have never heard of it before. I searched the forum and the site is mentioned a dozen times, including once on this topic.

There's not much on the web about them but in any case, searching quickly, I didn't find any negative comments

- Service name: Cryptorefills.com
- Representative profile: no idea
- Available gift cards: over 100
- Supported coins: 7 and also LN
- Registration required: optional
- Can Top-up phone: yes
- Sell crypto to fiat: no
- KYC Policy: Unregistered Users: Daily Limit: 2.000 Euro Monthly Limit: 5.000 Euro Registered Users: Daily Limit: 5.000 Euro
Monthly Limit: 10.000 Euro (Maximum amount per single Purchase 2.000 Euro)

https://trustpilot.com/review/www.cryptorefills.com
application for android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cryptorefills&hl=fr&gl=US
There is a loyalty program too in which you earn points and can redeem them later

[DaveF]

@OmegaStarScream Hi

Do you think Cryptorefills.com deserves a place on your list? I discovered it today, and I have never heard of it before. I searched the forum and the site is mentioned a dozen times, including once on this topic.

There's not much on the web about them but in any case, searching quickly, I didn't find any negative comments

- Service name: Cryptorefills.com
- Representative profile: no idea
- Available gift cards: over 100
- Supported coins: 7 and also LN
- Registration required: optional
- Can Top-up phone: yes
- Sell crypto to fiat: no
- KYC Policy: Unregistered Users: Daily Limit: 2.000 Euro Monthly Limit: 5.000 Euro Registered Users: Daily Limit: 5.000 Euro
Monthly Limit: 10.000 Euro (Maximum amount per single Purchase 2.000 Euro)

https://trustpilot.com/review/www.cryptorefills.com
application for android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cryptorefills&hl=fr&gl=US
There is a loyalty program too in which you earn points and can redeem them later

Good catch, never heard of them before.
They do seem to be a bit expensive vs Bitrefill and some others but they also have some cards that others do not so there is that.
No matter what the more people doing it the better.

-Dave

[Coinsbee.com]

We added more than 1500 different brands in the last month. In total we have now 2000+ brands. We have some more brands in the pipeline which will be added before christmas.
Which brands do you miss? We will try to add them.

Warm regards from Germany
Coinsbee.com - Team

[DaveF]

We added more than 1500 different brands in the last month. In total we have now 2000+ brands. We have some more brands in the pipeline which will be added before christmas.
Which brands do you miss? We will try to add them.

Warm regards from Germany
Coinsbee.com - Team

You need to add the ability to sort by name and since you just did add a bunch sort by new additions or something like that.
A notify when in stock option would be nice too.

-Dave

[Danydee]

We added more than 1500 different brands in the last month. In total we have now 2000+ brands. We have some more brands in the pipeline which will be added before christmas.
Which brands do you miss? We will try to add them.

Warm regards from Germany
Coinsbee.com - Team

Hi

Any updates on Master/Visa Virtual prepaid cards ?

It also would be great if you make restock of Paypals,, can never guarantee how is clean when trading with an individual BTCs against PPs.

[LeGaulois]

Which brands do you miss? We will try to add them.

I wanted to suggest SportDirect since I use the website, until I figure the shop is already added. But within the UK flag. So, if a user doesn't select the UK, he will never see SportDirect. Personally, I didn't know it was possible to buy a voucher with BTC for Sportdirect. Nice findings since I needed new pajamas  

As for suggesting some brands. Perhaps it could be great to tell us what brands it's possible to add with your partners. We could then 'vote' for what could be cool to see added to Coinsbee. Because we could suggest so many brands, mainly local, but there isn't a lot of chance you'll be able to add it, I suppose.

Greetings  

edit: also a shop related to CBD products would be nice

[bullrun2024bro]

We added more than 1500 different brands in the last month. In total we have now 2000+ brands. We have some more brands in the pipeline which will be added before christmas.
Which brands do you miss? We will try to add them.

Warm regards from Germany
Coinsbee.com - Team

I have a few suggestions for a few German brands you could add to your store:

• Uber / Uber Eats (Delivery / Food Delivery)
• Wolt (Food Delivery)
• DM (Drug store)
• Hotels.com (Hotels)
• Lieferando (Food Delivery)

Nevertheless, you definitely need to work on your prices. For example, if you have to pay almost 5€ fees for a 100€ Amazon gift card, that's not very attractive. Especially if you get the gift card with other providers without fees and even save further through their cashback programs. I would really like to support you guys, but currently most gift cards are just too expensive.

[tomahawk9]

We added more than 1500 different brands in the last month. In total we have now 2000+ brands. We have some more brands in the pipeline which will be added before christmas.
Which brands do you miss? We will try to add them.

Warm regards from Germany
Coinsbee.com - Team

- Asos (Clothing)
- mechanicalkeyboards (Peripherals)
- DROP . com (audio gear and keyboards)

[bullrun2024bro]

- Asos (Clothing)

ASOS is already available on Coinsbee for some regions, see here:



Source: https://www.coinsbee.com/en/Asos-bitcoin

It's available in Germany, France, Italy and United Kingdom. Unfortunately, the website is very cluttered and the search button is hard to find. I also see a clear need for improvement here.

[DaveF]

There is another GC provider that has been discussed a bit here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363239
ANN thread: https://www.addn.io/

I bought 2 cards from them both worked with no issues.
Crypto payments are processed through coingate.
Fair prices, about the same as bitrefill.

-Dave

[BuySellVouchers]

Hello, can you add our platform to your list - https://www.buysellvouchers.com/ ? We have been working since 2012. This means that we are a reliable platform.  On our platform it is possible to buy and sell gift cards and vouchers using such payment methods as: BTC, LTC, ETH, USDT, Perfect Money, Advcash, Webmoney, BS Token.

Kind greetings!
Buysellvouchers Team

[SFR10]

We have been working since 2012. This means that we are a reliable platform.

But the same cannot be said for "all" of the sellers on your platform! Am I right?
- I'm not sure you'd be counted as a proper gift card provider, since "you're" not providing anything ^{[other sellers/unofficial suppliers are doing it]} while there's the following thing as well:

• BuySellVouchers will not constitute as a party in your transaction with the seller and is not responsible for any damages and/or losses that may arise in case of default of either party.

Please refrain from changing ^{[or inserting your domain name]} the subject field when you're posting on someone else's thread!

[LoyceV]

Please refrain from changing ^{[or inserting your domain name]} the subject field when you're posting on someone else's thread!

OP can easily fix that:

[BuySellVouchers]

We have been working since 2012. This means that we are a reliable platform.

But the same cannot be said for "all" of the sellers on your platform! Am I right?
- I'm not sure you'd be counted as a proper gift card provider, since "you're" not providing anything ^{[other sellers/unofficial suppliers are doing it]} while there's the following thing as well:

• BuySellVouchers will not constitute as a party in your transaction with the seller and is not responsible for any damages and/or losses that may arise in case of default of either party.

Please refrain from changing ^{[or inserting your domain name]} the subject field when you're posting on someone else's thread!

Hello, thanks for your comment.
Yes Buysellvouchers is a marketplace that helps buyers and sellers of digital goods do business.
Rating system, sales history, registration date, number of successful transactions, customer reviews allow you to filter out reliable sellers. Also, sellers are currently required to submit documents for verification. All this set of factors makes it easy to filter out trusted sellers.
Kind greetings!

p.s Title corrected.

[OmegaStarScream]

Update: Added both Addn.io and CryptoRefills as suggested.

@Coinsbee I don't have any brands to suggest, but I would still like to see new coins added, preferably stablecoins that are not built on Ethereum.

@BuySellVouchers I'm afraid I can't list your service for the reason mentioned by SFR10. P2P platforms don't qualify. I understand that there is a rating system to protect the users but there's still a risk.

[SFR10]

Just found another one ^[1stpal], but I'm not sure if it deserves to be on the list... It has +30 gift cards ^{[apart from offering keys]}. It appears that they weren't active ^{[in here]} in the past few years and I could only find one "review from their old thread", so I was wondering if anyone from here has "recently" tried using their platform?
^{- Btw, "from here" you can see how they respond to bad reviews.}

[OmegaStarScream]

Just found another one ^[1stpal], but I'm not sure if it deserves to be on the list... It has +30 gift cards ^{[apart from offering keys]}. It appears that they weren't active ^{[in here]} in the past few years and I could only find one "review from their old thread", so I was wondering if anyone from here has "recently" tried using their platform?
^{- Btw, "from here" you can see how they respond to bad reviews.}

I haven't but I'll make sure to give them a try next time I need to buy something and give my review.

I can see that they are offering Windows keys as well, are they supposed to be this cheap? I looked around G2A and they're almost double there.

[SFR10]

I can see that they are offering Windows keys as well, are they supposed to be this cheap? I looked around G2A and they're almost double there.

Honestly, I can't recall how much I paid to activate mine, but when you put it that way ^{[x2 prices in G2A]}, it makes me doubt its legitimacy ^{[even after reading "this" page [apart from the main images at the top, it seems that some of their suppliers tend to sell it to a few users]]}.

[LeGaulois]

I will contact Bitrefill's support but I'm posting here to see what others members think about a problem I have with gifts cards bought from Bitrefill.

In September 2021, I bought a gift card for Ikea but never used it because it was bought for later.
This afternoon, I was shopping online and decided to use the voucher so. To my surprise, once I added the code Ikea displays the message: Amount remaining on the card 2,14 € (it's a 50€ voucher)

I started to think: how did that come? I'm sure I never used it. Wow, I got hacked and someone found the screenshot on my laptop? No
Someone else in my home used it without me knowing it? No. Am I sure I never used it? Yes, 1000%.

Humm, I need to finish my order with Ikea, let's buy another voucher on Bitrefill and I will see later about it.
I do, I buy a 50€ code and use it on Ikea.
Guess what the website tells me? Amount remaining on the card 2,14 €

I'm aware there is a 48h delay to use the voucher but that's not always the case, and that's not the problem, otherwise, the 2nd voucher wouldn't work and not tell me "Amount remaining on the card 2,14 €"

Since I'm sure it doesn't come from my side and there is nothing showing it could come from Ikea, I truly think there is a problem with Bitrefill.

edit:

ok, the problem was from my side. 2,14 is the amount left after i finish the checkout. I feel me a bit dumb

[OmegaStarScream]

-snip-

If I had to guess, I would say it's probably just a problem with the 50euro denominations (of your country) otherwise many other people would've reported it and they would've fixed it already.

It would be interesting to know what happened to the cards though. If I were you, I'd reach out to IKEA as well, and try to figure out what happened and see when they were redeemed and what was bought (if possible). This should help you get your refund from Bitrefill quicker since they're dealing with a third-party supplier.

[OmegaStarScream]

Bitrefill has updated (increased) its limits a few days ago, though I don't see what's the point of having these limits when it's allowed to buy without an account:

1. Customers without accounts
Maximum orders per day: 15 (fifteen)
Maximum purchasing limits: 500 USD per day and 1.000 USD per month

2. Customers with basic accounts
Maximum orders per day: 15 (fifteen)
Maximum purchasing limits: Up to 2.000 USD per card, up to 5.000 USD per day, up to 10.000 USD per month (different exceptional thresholds may apply to certain Products)
Maximum phone top-ups per day: 15 (fifteen)
Maximum phone top-up limits: Up to 200 USD per pin/refill, up to 500 USD per day, up to 2.000 USD per month

3. Customers with verified accounts
Maximum orders per day: 25 (twenty-five)
Maximum purchasing limits: Up to 2.000 USD per card, up to 10.000 USD per day, up to 50.000 USD per month (different exceptional thresholds may apply to certain Products)
Maximum phone top-up limits: Up to 500 USD per pin/refill, up to 1.000 USD per day, up to 5.000 USD per month
To verify your account please start here while logged into your account - https://www.bitrefill.com/account/kyc
What information is required?
To be able to complete the verification process you need:
- a photocopy of an ID (e.g. your passport or driving license)
- a proof of address
- a live selfie

[TryNinja]

Is this list only for actual companies/websites who sell gift cards?

I've been selling brazilian gift cards for a while (~2 years). Am I allowed here?

I even have a topic about that: [VENDO] Gift Cards por BTC (Uber, Spotify, Netflix, Steam, LoL, PSN, e mais...)

[OmegaStarScream]

Is this list only for actual companies/websites who sell gift cards?
-snip-

Yes. It currently is but I might end up making a separate list for individuals and P2P platforms.
Some updates:
- U.S citizens will soon be able to pay their bills using Bitrefill[1].
- Coinsbee is now offering VCCs (MasterCards) again[2], but with another provider.

[1] https://www.bitrefill.com/us-bills
[2] https://www.coinsbee.com/en/My%2BPrepaid%2BCenter%2BMastercard-bitcoin

[DaveF]

Is this list only for actual companies/websites who sell gift cards?
-snip-

Yes. It currently is but I might end up making a separate list for individuals and P2P platforms.
Some updates:
- U.S citizens will soon be able to pay their bills using Bitrefill[1].
- Coinsbee is now offering VCCs (MasterCards) again[2], but with another provider.

[1] https://www.bitrefill.com/us-bills
[2] https://www.coinsbee.com/en/My%2BPrepaid%2BCenter%2BMastercard-bitcoin

Yeah, but with a 2% fee on the bill payments from bitrefill and a 10% markup (no that's not a typo) fee on the VCCs from coinsbee.
For the US & Canada there are better deals on the VCC. I don't know about the rest of the world.
The bill payment is new thing so 2% although high IMO may or may not be average for these kinds of services.
Will be interesting to see if you can pay car loan or lease payments, mortgage payments and those kinds of things.

-Dave

[SFR10]

Yeah, but with a 2% fee on the bill payments from bitrefill

I think their 2% fee is still good enough for smaller bills and it seems that you can still use Strike to take advantage of their "5% cashback ^{[credit goes to @Kahuna_07 on Twitter]}".
^{- Personally, I'm more worried about the time it takes for them to pay the bills ["within 3 business days"] because I had a bad experience with using a similar service in the past [locally]!}

[DaveF]

Yeah, but with a 2% fee on the bill payments from bitrefill

I think their 2% fee is still good enough for smaller bills and it seems that you can still use Strike to take advantage of their "5% cashback ^{[credit goes to @Kahuna_07 on Twitter]}".
^{- Personally, I'm more worried about the time it takes for them to pay the bills ["within 3 business days"] because I had a bad experience with using a similar service in the past [locally]!}

Well I just too a look around and yes there are mortgage and auto loan providers there.
Don't have a car loan at the moment but I will pay a CC bill and a few other other things and see how it goes.

-Dave

[pugman]

Anyone used bitrefill recently? Its still good yes??

Would possibly need recommendations for gift card providers who could possibly be better than bitrefill perhaps? Is coinsbee better than bitrefill currently or no? Planning to buy some amazon credits sometime soon so would love me some recommendations

Yes. It currently is but I might end up making a separate list for individuals and P2P platforms.

PLEASE DO! I would like to do some lil wittle transactions with some decent individuals/P2P plats.

[LeGaulois]

I use it regularly, the last time was a few days ago with SportDirect UK, and yes it is still good. However, I would not advise you to buy high-value vouchers. This is the kind of thing that makes Amazon flag your account and suspend it. Their system is sometimes too strict. Personally, even if my Amazon account is old, i wouldn't add a 200€ voucher to it

Bitrefill is cheaper regarding Amazon vouchers compared to Coinsbee.

I don't have a specific preference between both, I alternate, but what I like with bitrefill is the possibility to top up my account to use it later. So if the BTC price goes down, I don't care. You also have a cashback of 1% per Amazon voucher. It's not a lot but like we say in my country, every penny counts.

[LoyceV]

Anyone used bitrefill recently? Its still good yes??

It works fine for me most of the time. Sometimes not all cards or all denominations are available.

Would possibly need recommendations for gift card providers who could possibly be better than bitrefill perhaps?

I haven't tried others (that says something about how good Bitrefill works for me).

I would not advise you to buy high-value vouchers. This is the kind of thing that makes Amazon flag your account and suspend it. Their system is sometimes too strict. Personally, even if my Amazon account is old, i wouldn't add a 200€ voucher to it

I've seen the stories, and I haven't tried it, but it's not something I worry about. Even if I pay by voucher, Amazon charges my creditcard with a 0.00 euro reservation. So if their gift card "bounces" (which would be ridiculous to begin with!), they won't lose money.

[DaveF]

Did two credit card payments with bitrefills bill pay.
Started another thread so this one can stay for gift card providers and leave the other one for the bill pay service.
Other thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5396798

-Dave

[Coinsbee.com]

We added more than 1500 different brands in the last month. In total we have now 2000+ brands. We have some more brands in the pipeline which will be added before christmas.
Which brands do you miss? We will try to add them.

Warm regards from Germany
Coinsbee.com - Team

I have a few suggestions for a few German brands you could add to your store:

• Uber / Uber Eats (Delivery / Food Delivery)
• Wolt (Food Delivery)
• DM (Drug store)
• Hotels.com (Hotels)
• Lieferando (Food Delivery)

Nevertheless, you definitely need to work on your prices. For example, if you have to pay almost 5€ fees for a 100€ Amazon gift card, that's not very attractive. Especially if you get the gift card with other providers without fees and even save further through their cashback programs. I would really like to support you guys, but currently most gift cards are just too expensive.

Hi,
we added Lieferando for Germany. So u can order your next pizza with us.  We are also working on the others.

https://www.coinsbee.com/en/Lieferando-bitcoin

[bullrun2024bro]

Hi,
we added Lieferando for Germany. So u can order your next pizza with us.  We are also working on the others.

https://www.coinsbee.com/en/Lieferando-bitcoin

Interesting, thanks for the reply. It's nice that you are constantly adding new stores.



Source: https://www.coinsbee.com/en/Lieferando-bitcoin

Unfortunately, the fees are quite high at 4€+ for a 100€ voucher. And the competition (still) does it cheaper. See here, for example, Bitrefill:



Source: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/lieferando-germany/?hl=de

Actually, there are no fees at all, and with the 1% cashback you even get your money back for the transaction fee.

@Coinsbee this is not meant to be a criticism of your service, but simply the reason why I tend to use the competition in this case - even though you are a German company and I would be happy to support you.

[Coinsbee.com]

Thx for the feedback. We try to get better conditions for those giftcards all the time to improve the prices.

[bullrun2024bro]

Thx for the feedback. We try to get better conditions for those giftcards all the time to improve the prices.

You're welcome. Keep it up. IMHO, you are on the right track! The relatively high fees are the only thing that you are still lacking a bit. The selection of vouchers has improved significantly compared to last year (especially for German users).

[AndriiF86]

In my opinion Coinsbee - https://www.coinsbee.com/en/ is the best of these. I buy there gift cards quite long time and I'm fully satisfied

[negancoin]

Interesting, thanks for the reply. It's nice that you are constantly adding new stores.



Source: https://www.coinsbee.com/en/Lieferando-bitcoin

Unfortunately, the fees are quite high at 4€+ for a 100€ voucher. And the competition (still) does it cheaper. See here, for example, Bitrefill:



Source: https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/lieferando-germany/?hl=de

Actually, there are no fees at all, and with the 1% cashback you even get your money back for the transaction fee.

I'm looking to buy a Netflix gift card and I've noticed the difference in prices between Bitrefill and Coinsbee. Bitrefill's prices seems reasonable, so I'll buy from it since OmegaStarScream vouched for it.

[SFR10]

I'm looking to buy a Netflix gift card and I've noticed the difference in prices between Bitrefill and Coinsbee. Bitrefill's prices seems reasonable, so I'll buy from it since OmegaStarScream vouched for it.

Both of them are good, but make sure to check or rather compare different values/amounts as well ^{[results aren't always the same and it probably has something to do with their current supplies]}:

e.g. If you get Netflix 70 BRL ^[screenshot]:

• At the moment is 0.0007669 BTC on Coinsbee, while on Bitrefill is 0.00077504 BTC.
  
  • Even if we take into account the 1% reward on Bitrefill, it's still slightly cheaper on Coinsbee (I'm referring to this case only):
    0.00077504 - 1% reward (0.0000077504) = 0.0007672896BTC
    

[LoyceV]

I was hoping Bitrefill would add the difference to my account when I paid more than needed for a gift card, but unfortunately they didn't. I tested it with a small amount, so it's not worth complaining about, but it would be a great feature (to avoid small change outputs) if I can pay any amount I want. I could do this by using "Top-up Balance" first, but paying directly is faster to buy something.
It's been months since bitrefill was active here, so no rush

[bitrefill]

I was hoping Bitrefill would add the difference to my account when I paid more than needed for a gift card, but unfortunately they didn't. I tested it with a small amount, so it's not worth complaining about, but it would be a great feature (to avoid small change outputs) if I can pay any amount I want. I could do this by using "Top-up Balance" first, but paying directly is faster to buy something.
It's been months since bitrefill was active here, so no rush

Hello! if you send more than the required, you can get it deposited to your Bitrefill balance by asking that to our customer service here or by twitter DM https://bitrefill.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[OmegaStarScream]

Found these two new services in Binance pay merchants directory: https://pay.binance.com/en/merchant-stores

- Egycards (based in Egypt).
- and topup-balance.com

If you used them before, please share your experience.

[ralle14]

Found these two new services in Binance pay merchants directory: https://pay.binance.com/en/merchant-stores

- Egycards (based in Egypt).
- and topup-balance.com

If you used them before, please share your experience.

I've tried topup-balance once, their fees are slightly higher than the other sites and payment process is a bit of a hassle since their copy address button doesn't work so the only way to pay is to scan the provided QR code.

Coingate is also listed in the Binance directory and they have an impressive variety of gift cards. I used them a few times to buy gift cards that were usually out of stock on other sites.   

[LeGaulois]

I confirm.

topup-balance is a nightmare, you can't copy an address and you need to scan a QR code. They're supposed to sent a bill, so you may think you will copy the adress from it but they don't sent this bill... Since I hate stuff with QR code I prefer to go elsewhere.
That said it's different if you use something else than Bitcoin, it works since they're using a 3rd party to process the payment

Coingate is good for some countries, with different stores. Some of you can pay a supermarket like Lidl, or buy gazoil with Shell etc...
You can even find Mc Donald, Burger King etc...

[OmegaStarScream]

I've tried topup-balance once, their fees are slightly higher than the other sites and payment process is a bit of a hassle since their copy address button doesn't work so the only way to pay is to scan the provided QR code.

Coingate is also listed in the Binance directory and they have an impressive variety of gift cards. I used them a few times to buy gift cards that were usually out of stock on other sites.  

I'll make sure to add coingate after checking their limits and KYC policy.

Thanks for checking top-up balance as well. I just took some time to browse the site, and it appears that this is not the only problem they have.

[libert19]

Addn.io seems to be done for, their trustpilot page is full of complaints. Better remove it from list in case someone feels enticed by no-kyc policy.

[SFR10]

Found these two new services in Binance pay merchants directory: https://pay.binance.com/en/merchant-stores

- Egycards (based in Egypt).
- and topup-balance.com

Looks like there are a few more gift card providers in the above directory:
^{Note: My post shouldn't be taken as a vouch!}

• MooGold.com
• CryptoMate.com.cn
• ByteTopUp.com ^{[it comes with a very weird layout]}

Addn.io seems to be done for, their trustpilot page is full of complaints.

The same can also be said for "Gyft" and "CardCash ^{[except for the very last review]}".

[DaveF]

Found these two new services in Binance pay merchants directory: https://pay.binance.com/en/merchant-stores

- Egycards (based in Egypt).
- and topup-balance.com

Looks like there are a few more gift card providers in the above directory:
^{Note: My post shouldn't be taken as a vouch!}

• MooGold.com
• CryptoMate.com.cn
• ByteTopUp.com ^{[it comes with a very weird layout]}

Addn.io seems to be done for, their trustpilot page is full of complaints.

The same can also be said for "Gyft" and "CardCash ^{[except for the very last review]}".

Gyft is and always has been 100% owned by First Data https://www.gyft.com/about-us/
Not a company that is going to scam. They do have a fair amount of people who don't like them. Usually seedy merchants that they kicked off their platform.
They then go out and badmouth First Data and all their companies. Seen it with my own eyes.

OTOH, since we are all are pro BTC, do we really want to be dealing with a credit card processor to get our gift cards.

I'll leave that discussion up for others to take up.

Now, onto the subject that I came here for. Be aware that bitrefill is a bit broken. They are charging a bit more for some cards then face value. i.e. $20 dunkin' card is $20.25
Keep your eyes open if you order something just to make sure it's not more then a few cents.

-Dave

[LeGaulois]

A new thing at Bitrefill?

We now have limits before to be forced to verify our account. I say 'forced' because we can purchase an item without the need to sign up.
I'm bothered because with an account we can for exemple deposit BTC, convert in euros and use our balance another day
And just after buying a voucher, the limit has been updated (see pic #3). So that's something new? Last time I used Bitrefill was ~2 months ago.

No way LeGaulois sends his ID cards. Too cute

The verification process is done via the Sumsub platform. "Secure & GDPR compliant"
Oh yeah Secure, they all say that but that's not true, it's rather trolling me
FYI, Sumsub is in partnership with several cryptos related companies, And of course, manipulating data about you...

[OmegaStarScream]

I don't remember what the limits used to be, but the limits page from the second screenshot has always been there. The warning when depositing is new though.

[LoyceV]

Bitrefill has had those limits for as long as I can remember. I don't really worry about them: who's going to buy $10,000 per month on Bitrefill?

[LeGaulois]

I've never pay attention there are limits. I learned it while seeing the warning when I deposit.
Well, I shall say they improved since now I'm aware

I thought it was for lifetime and not per month (I haven't read correctly  )
Fair enough, but perhaps a day I'll be rich 

[bullrun2024bro]

Bitrefill has had those limits for as long as I can remember.

Yep, that's exactly how it is. The limits have been around for a long time. I had a short chat via e-mail with the support in 2021(?) and they confirmed that there are certain limits.

Looks like only the note about the limits is new. At least I had not seen this before. But I haven't used Bitrefill for a few months either.

who's going to buy $10,000 per month on Bitrefill?

Perhaps someone needs a Netflix subscription until 2183? 

[NotATether]

Perhaps someone needs a Netflix subscription until 2183?  

Is Netflix even going to be around in 2183?

@LeGaulois Are they using some KYC provider to live-shoot the ID like everyone else, or are they just asking for photo ID upload?

I'm not holding my breath, hopefully they're not using some trash ID verification service.

[bullrun2024bro]

@LeGaulois Are they using some KYC provider to live-shoot the ID like everyone else, or are they just asking for photo ID upload?

I'm not holding my breath, hopefully they're not using some trash ID verification service.

The KYC process is handled by Sumsub, a verification platform which is used by plenty of players in the space, as it seems. See below:



Source: Bitrefill, KYC

More Infos here: https://sumsub.com/privacy-notice/



Looks like they are also working with Binance, Bybit & Huobi. Can anyone comment on how reputable/respected the KYC provider is?

[DaveF]

Bitrefill now has Prepaid Mastercard gift cards for the US.

https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/prepaid-mastercard-usa/?hl=en

And as a small added bonus you get 5% back at some places:
https://www.myprepaidcenter.com/page/mastercard-univ

Unlike a lot of other places looks like NO activation fees that I can see. At least for now.

Tested with no issues, see post below.

-Dave

[LoyceV]

Bitrefill now has Prepaid Mastercard gift cards for the US.

I can't buy it because of my location, so I can't see the real price, but the "estimate" for a $1 prepaid mastercard is 4279 sat! That would mean a prepaid mastercard with no overhead, I thought it usually costs at least a few bucks per card.

[DaveF]

Bitrefill now has Prepaid Mastercard gift cards for the US.

I can't buy it because of my location, so I can't see the real price, but the "estimate" for a $1 prepaid mastercard is 4279 sat! That would mean a prepaid mastercard with no overhead, I thought it usually costs at least a few bucks per card.

Just bought a card 0 fees, actual face value of card. Used it to pay a cable bill with no issues.
You don't actually get a card number, you get an activation code and have to go to https://MyPrepaidCenter.com/redeem to activate it.
Spit out a Master Card with an expiration date 6 months out and all the other info.

If you buy it in a store with cash there is usually a $2.95 to $4.95 fee egifter also charges a fee.

At a *guess* they are probably getting some of the % of the sales to run it though and are making their money that way.
OR like your local drug dealer they are keeping it free to start, once they get you hooked then it's gonna cost you.

But as of now it's a 1 to 1 deal.

-Dave

[NotATether]

Bitrefill now has Prepaid Mastercard gift cards for the US.

I can't buy it because of my location, so I can't see the real price, but the "estimate" for a $1 prepaid mastercard is 4279 sat! That would mean a prepaid mastercard with no overhead, I thought it usually costs at least a few bucks per card.

Try using Tor with a US exit node. Seemed to work with me when accessing a previous Walmart card of mine.

It should work as long as the website is not banning tor, or there is no Cloudflare with annoying captcha.

[LoyceV]

Just bought a card 0 fees, actual face value of card. Used it to pay a cable bill with no issues.
You don't actually get a card number, you get an activation code and have to go to https://MyPrepaidCenter.com/redeem to activate it.
Spit out a Master Card with an expiration date 6 months out and all the other info.

If that works online, I can think of a few uses. Does it also work for websites outside US?

At a *guess* they are probably getting some of the % of the sales to run it though and are making their money that way.
OR like your local drug dealer they are keeping it free to start, once they get you hooked then it's gonna cost you.

Or both

Try using Tor with a US exit node.

I tried, but when I try to buy one it brings me to https://www.bitrefill.com/api/cart?redirect showing this:

Code:

message	"This product does not exist"
status	"invalid_product"

I haven't tried a VPN yet.

[LeGaulois]

Does it also work for websites outside US?

I believe yes.

Yesterday, while discovering the website, I saw they mention a 2% fee when you use the card to pay in another area/currency
Another hint is the fact it's translated in others languages, so they can serve people outside USA. And there is list of restricted countries, so others can use it,...and since it's not using USD...

[LoyceV]

Bitrefill now has Prepaid Mastercard gift cards for the US.

https://www.bitrefill.com/buy/prepaid-mastercard-usa/?hl=en

I tried again by using a VPN, and got this:

Code:

This product is currently not available for VPN users.

That's a first! This message only shows up after I click "Add to cart". I'll try from a server in the US when they're available again.

Update: I tried to buy a prepaid mastercard from Bitrefill again, this time from a Ramnode cloud server in Atlanta. Even though I used Firefox on the server, I got the same result: it still says I'm using a VPN.

[OmegaStarScream]

-snip-
Update: I tried to buy a prepaid mastercard from Bitrefill again, this time from a Ramnode cloud server in Atlanta. Even though I used Firefox on the server, I got the same result: it still says I'm using a VPN.

I also tried to use Vultr, but with no luck. I'm getting the same message. But even after managing to buy them, you would probably still need to submit your documents on the card's provider website.

[LoyceV]

But even after managing to buy them, you would probably still need to submit your documents on the card's provider website.

I've never seen a coupon on Bitrefill that requires documents. @DaveF: can you confirm this? KYC would make a $2 prepaid Mastercard utterly useless.

[DaveF]

But even after managing to buy them, you would probably still need to submit your documents on the card's provider website.

I've never seen a coupon on Bitrefill that requires documents. @DaveF: can you confirm this? KYC would make a $2 prepaid Mastercard utterly useless.

Just some basic name and address info, but you would need to give most of them something for online purchases so they could verify address & zip when processing the card.

At least here in the US the online merchants verify the house number and zip code or the card gets declined. They prepaid center never did any verification if it's a real address.

I just PMd both of you.

-Dave

[LoyceV]

They prepaid center never did any verification if it's a real address.

Don't you risk them freezing the card if they ever ask for an address verification that you can't provide?

[DaveF]

They prepaid center never did any verification if it's a real address.

Don't you risk them freezing the card if they ever ask for an address verification that you can't provide?

Possibly. But even so, I have bought physical prepaid cards [in a store with cash] for customers when I had to pay for some subscription or something and could not track down one of the owners and used bogus addresses and never had an issue.


So with a bit of testing. It looks like even if you get past the purchasing of the card and getting the activation info you cannot activate the card using any known VPN IP. Will just fail. If you get around THAT and get it activated you cannot use it in some locations. Did a few tests with people. Some worked some did not. Will let them comment in the thread if they want to discuss.

-Dave

[LoyceV]

So with a bit of testing. It looks like even if you get past the purchasing of the card and getting the activation info you cannot activate the card using any known VPN IP. Will just fail. If you get around THAT and get it activated you cannot use it in some locations. Did a few tests with people. Some worked some did not. Will let them comment in the thread if they want to discuss.

I'll comment: It's one of the reasons I prefer crypto All those fraud checks are (obviously) meant to prevent fraud, but don't include the privacy conscious user who just wants to pay something without sharing their real information. Maybe it will get better once they roll out prepaid creditcards to other countries.
Thanks DaveF for testing.

[OmegaStarScream]

I found this new service[1] on Binance's pay merchants page. I'd like to hear your thoughts before listing them if anyone has used them before and for those who didn't, if you can't see any items listed, it's probably because of your adblocker.

[1] https://www.card-wow.com/

[LeGaulois]

Always the same shops from one site to another.

Thinking about it, there isn't much innovation in this niche. They provide the same cards with the same shops compared to 'traditionnals' websites where you pay in fiats.

You can say the innovation is you can pay with cryptos... humm, it costs cheaper to pay with a local currency, so if the innovation is to pay higher it's not really interesting... unless you like to pay higher...
Bitrefill stands out from the crowd with its cashback system, but still.

The industry seems saturated nowadays and there's not much new to provide to users.

I'm going to sound like a hypocrite because I use Bitrefill but I'm just making an observation

[OmegaStarScream]

Update: It looks like Bitrefill announced the release of their eSIM service yesterday[1][2]. Unfortunately, and as mentioned by @_act_ these eSims don't have a phone number, meaning you can't use them to receive calls or texts (which IMO should've been their first priority here).

[1] https://www.bitrefill.com/en/esims/
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462636.msg62669289#msg62669289

[dkbit98]

Update: It looks like Bitrefill announced the release of their eSIM service yesterday[1][2]. Unfortunately, and as mentioned by @_act_ these eSims don't have a phone number, meaning you can't use them to receive calls or texts (which IMO should've been their first priority here).

It's strange that I am getting 404 Not Found error on first link you posted, but I can find them and open on their main page  

I think I saw other services offering e-sim cards for Bitcoin and other crypto (for example silent.link), so this is nothing special for Bitrefill.

[OmegaStarScream]

It's strange that I am getting 404 Not Found error on first link you posted, but I can find them and open on their main page  

I think I saw other services offering e-sim cards for Bitcoin and other crypto (for example silent.link), so this is nothing special for Bitrefill.

They must've removed the page. The link was working just fine when I posted it.

Some competition is always good, I guess. Have you tried Silent.link before? There's also eSimWay which I made a thread about a couple of days ago if you want to look into it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464321.0;topicseen

[Ariona]

Hi,

I will be in the US soon and I would love to use some Bitrefill gift cards for my trip. Two questions:

1. You guys got some ideas for gift cards that either work directly in the store and don't need an US app on your phone? Especially restaurants or food. I would like to print the qr code, walk in the store and get my food.
2. Did you try the Groupon gift card? Does it work?

And maybe one more off-topic question: are there any kyc-free bitcoin atms with low fees? Are there kyc-free atms at all?

Thanks.

[OmegaStarScream]

1. If you use bitrefill, you can see it mentioned on the top whether the cards work on physical stores or just online.

2. I couldn't answer that. I haven't.

For the BTMs, I know there are some kyc free ones, just not sure if they are in the U.S. but you can check that information, along with the fees on:

https://coinatmradar.com/country/226/bitcoin-atm-united-states/

[DaveF]

Hi,

I will be in the US soon and I would love to use some Bitrefill gift cards for my trip. Two questions:

1. You guys got some ideas for gift cards that either work directly in the store and don't need an US app on your phone? Especially restaurants or food. I would like to print the qr code, walk in the store and get my food.
2. Did you try the Groupon gift card? Does it work?

And maybe one more off-topic question: are there any kyc-free bitcoin atms with low fees? Are there kyc-free atms at all?

Thanks.

It depends on the restaurant.
A Ruth Chris opened near where I live and they took the printout no problem:  https://www.bitrefill.com/us/en/gift-cards/ruths-chris-steakhouse-usa/
As does California Pizza Kitchen: https://www.bitrefill.com/us/en/gift-cards/california-pizza-kitchen-usa/
With Fast Food it depends on the person behind the counter.

But....
Famous Daves: https://www.bitrefill.com/us/en/gift-cards/famous-daves-usa/ had to call a manager and someone else over for us to use it. I told them it's OK, I'm Dave but they didn't care....

As for the ATMs there are separate posts around here to discuss, a lot depends on where you are. (i.e. Las Vegas, has more BATMs that have very light KYC vs BATMs in Florida)

-Dave

[Ariona]

/

/

Thank you for the links and hints. I will be in California for a while and will try some of the places suggested above. 

[DaveF]

At the moment Bitrefill has 5% BTC back on prepaid virtual visa cards. US only.
There is a 1% fee to buy the card so I don't know why they just didn't get rid of that on give 4% back but nobody asked me :-)

https://www.bitrefill.com/us/en/gift-cards/virtual-prepaid-visa-usa/

Did some testing, like their prepaid MasterCard:
If you try to buy it with an IP out of the US or with a known VPN IP it will fail.
If you try to activate it with an IP out of the US or with a known VPN IP it will fail.

Once you get past that it does seem to work wherever I tested it.

It is better then nothing, but still not great.

-Dave

[Danydee]

Did some testing, like their prepaid MasterCard:
If you try to buy it with an IP out of the US or with a known VPN IP it will fail.
If you try to activate it with an IP out of the US or with a known VPN IP it will fail.

Once you get past that it does seem to work wherever I tested it.

 It is great to hear that !

From wich provider the card is, (that to look on their terms to see how it is restricted or not !)

It is better then nothing, but still not great.

If it interest you, "Coinsbee" have reintegrated (My prepaid center) wich provide Global MasterCards !!

[DaveF]

It's from a company called perfectgift.com
The card number itself is issued through Sutton Bank.



It's also good since if there are more options that are out there, services like Bitrefill & Coinsbee & others will be forced to keep their prices reasonable and perhaps come up with better options for cards.

-Dave

[Danydee]

Thank you

I was thinking about the Master Card 

It is the VISA that you have used outside the United States ?

[DaveF]

Thank you

I was thinking about the Master Card 

It is the VISA that you have used outside the United States ?

Neither card bitrefill sells is *supposed* to work out of the US.
With that being said there has been some discussion on reddit that they do work in limited instances in other countries, but I have not been able to get them to work.
A few months ago when I got some and gave them to other forum members to test they did not work for them.

-Dave

[dkbit98]

Neither card bitrefill sells is *supposed* to work out of the US.
With that being said there has been some discussion on reddit that they do work in limited instances in other countries, but I have not been able to get them to work.
A few months ago when I got some and gave them to other forum members to test they did not work for them.

It is possible to use them in some cases if you change IP address to US using VPN, but there is no guarantees this will work.
I think they have different gift cards available in different countries, at least that was the case last time I purchased gift cards from them.
Thebitcoincompany.com works in similar way.

[OmegaStarScream]

I think they have different gift cards available in different countries, at least that was the case last time I purchased gift cards from them.
-snip-

Bitrefill? I don't believe so. It's the case for Netflix, Nike, etc. but if you're referring to their VCC then no. Coinsbee does have worldwide cards but unlike Bitrefill, you'd have to verify your identity (as mentioned at the bottom of the page): https://www.coinsbee.com/en/My%2BPrepaid%2BCenter%2BMastercard-bitcoin

[dkbit98]

Bitrefill? I don't believe so. It's the case for Netflix, Nike, etc. but if you're referring to their VCC then no.

Maybe they changed something recently.
I am 100% sure they had Google Play gift cards that worked in different countries (Germany for example), but I am checking now and they currently have only US based cards.
Not sure if this was the case with other cards they are offering, or only for Google Play cards.

[OmegaStarScream]

Maybe they changed something recently.
I am 100% sure they had Google Play gift cards that worked in different countries (Germany for example), but I am checking now and they currently have only US based cards.
Not sure if this was the case with other cards they are offering, or only for Google Play cards.

I guess you misunderstood me. I'm referring to the VCCs (virtual credit cards) and not to the gift cards like Google play and Netflix etc. I know that those are available in different regions, and I believe that's the case for pretty much every provider on the list.

[anonymouze2020]

Coinsbee is a scam. Just lost 7 USDT there trying to buy a Global Mastercard $5 value.

This is how they work.

Purchased on:
https://www.coinsbee.com

Post purchase got redirected to:
https://myprepaidcenter.com

Created an account there, they ask for personal details.

Upon trying to redeem the "code" they sent on mail, this got displayed:
We apologize. We have identified an error on our side. Please contact customer service at 866-815-3034.

Then the account created on myprepaidcenter.com became unable to login. This site only displays phone numbers with toll charges for support, so 90% of the people will not even bother calling in as it would cost more to make the call than the value of the stolen funds most of the time.

Upon sending an email to the coinsbee.com support email help@coinsbee.com you get weird answers which basically point to "go to myprepaidcenter.com and cry there"

TOTAL SCAM. Which makes me wonder how many shills there are in this thread who all merited and vouched for this Coinsbee.com scam.

Here is the "code" they showed in the fake card on the site. It's blank.
https://i.imgur.com/2zcxPrU.jpg

[DaveF]

....

Nope, it's something on your side.
Bitrefill and many other places use myprepaidcenter.com for their mastercard prepaid cards.
Try a different browser. Also, they are US (possibly North America) only for some services. And they do block VPNs

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208530.msg61853963#msg61853963

Log out, log back in, try using a private browser window.

Heck, even a MC I got from a class action lawsuit was run through the myprepaidcenter.com site.

I also don't see that 866 number you gave on their site: https://myprepaidcenter.com/contactus

-Dave

[anonymouze2020]

....

I also don't see that 866 number you gave on their site: https://myprepaidcenter.com/contactus

-Dave

What kind of a site only has tolled (paid) numbers for customer support and no email?
Obviously a scam site that knows that most people will not bother to spend money to make an international call when only 5-10 dollars have been stolen from them.

You have 1000s of posts here and you're VOUCHING for an obvious scam site? I just don't understand it.

VPN session or no VPN session, why would they display a blank card with no numbers? The attitude of the support email person at support@coinsbee.com has proven beyond doubt that it is a scam operation. This VPN excuse is the same one he kept repeating. I've never heard of a site working this way under VPN. I'll wait for someone else to respond before saying anything else.

Edit: I added a review on TrustPilot and now Coinsbee.com is trying to give an excuse that i purchased from some other site not Coinsbee. I have also emailed the actual company known as Pathward N.A. and we will soon know if myprepaidcenter.com is related to them or not. Obviously it is not and it is a scam.

[DaveF]

....

I also don't see that 866 number you gave on their site: https://myprepaidcenter.com/contactus

-Dave

What kind of a site only has tolled (paid) numbers for customer support and no email?
Obviously a scam site that knows that most people will not bother to spend money to make an international call when only 5-10 dollars have been stolen from them.

You have 1000s of posts here and you're VOUCHING for an obvious scam site? I just don't understand it.

VPN session or no VPN session, why would they display a blank card with no numbers? The attitude of the support email person at support@coinsbee.com has proven beyond doubt that it is a scam operation. This VPN excuse is the same one he kept repeating. I've never heard of a site working this way under VPN. I'll wait for someone else to respond before saying anything else.

Edit: I added a review on TrustPilot and now Coinsbee.com is trying to give an excuse that i purchased from some other site not Coinsbee. I have also emailed the actual company known as Pathward N.A. and we will soon know if myprepaidcenter.com is related to them or not. Obviously it is not and it is a scam.

coinsbee is also on the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2667213

They (myprepaidcenter.com) have plenty of toll free numbers in the US. They are a public US / North American company and for the most part only deal with people in the US / North America. Most, perhaps all, of my US issued credit cards don't have toll free numbers out of the US so that is not unusual.

As for the VPN, since they are a financial services company they have to abide by KYC / AML rules. $1 or $5 or $1000 or $5000 or $100,000 it's all the same in the eyes of KYC / AML rules.

This is what I see when I 1st log in. [I blanked some info]


Once I click on view details I see the full info [I blanked some info]


What do you get when you click view details?


Pathward has nothing to do with coinsbee all coinsbee is doing is reselling their cards as do hundreds of other services.

With all the above being said, they are very very twitchy when it comes to security.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SwagBucks/comments/150olvk/stay_away_from_getting_myprepaidcenter_mastercard/

You see it as a $5 gift card I see it as a $5 card they (my prepaid / blackhawk / Pathward) *have* to see it as the potential to get 1000 x $1000 gift cards and move a $1,000,000 in less time then it took me to type this.
https://financialcrimeacademy.org/the-essential-guide-to-prepaid-card-money-laundering/

-Dave

[anonymouze2020]

I got shown a card that was blank as I have already posted in my original message, 3-4 messages ago.

Here is the "code" they showed in the fake card on the site. It's blank.
https://i.imgur.com/2zcxPrU.jpg

We will soon find out if Pathward N.A. is related to myprepaidcenter.com, i'm awaiting the email from them. I have also informed some German finance authorities about this site. Let's see how this develops.

No legit company says "go to that other company (which has no customer support email and only has tolled phone numbers) and cry there, we cannot do anything about it"


Edit: I installed some app on my phone and managed to make a call to one of their support numbers. Long story short, some email came with a retrieval code, that might or might not have also come earlier when all this started, and i may or may not have clicked on it while under VPN, i'm confused, anyway long story short, after the call to their agent, the problem got sorted and i'm no longer angry and baying for blood. I actually feel kinda stupid, i might have overlooked the "retrieve code" email earlier. But in any case, the company still comes across as scammy simply because they have not shown a support email ID. I asked the agent on the phone also and she said no we don't have a support email ID. Whatever, i'm at least anger-free now, but won't ever buy a card from this site again. Actually, phew, i was looking at 7-10 of constant internet sleuthing around trying to contact all sorts of authorities, that would have taken a major toll on my happiness. After all this nonsense happened, i anyway discovered that the Bitcoin Company or something with that red/pink turtle logo has an option to get Visa Card paid for with bitcoin lightning sats. So i won't be using Coinsbee/Myprepaid center again anyway. I'll just keep my previous 3-4 angry messages up for record sake anyway, even though they don't really apply. It might have been my mistake (overlooking the "retrieve" email that came earlier today, or maybe i did open it in a browser that had the VPN add on running, because i'm very sure that the code did not display even after a long time of keeping the page open, even just now when it did show it lagged for at least 10 seconds before loading on the screen. Whatever be the case if VPN makes the code not work, then such a warning message should be shown before clicking the link, and a support email just has to be there. What a stupid waste of so many hours. A comedy of errors. Bah. I'll show myself out.

[OmegaStarScream]

I got shown a card that was blank as I have already posted in my original message, 3-4 messages ago.

Here is the "code" they showed in the fake card on the site. It's blank.
https://i.imgur.com/2zcxPrU.jpg

We will soon find out if Pathward N.A. is related to myprepaidcenter.com, i'm awaiting the email from them. I have also informed some German finance authorities about this site. Let's see how this develops.

No legit company says "go to that other company (which has no customer support email and only has tolled phone numbers) and cry there, we cannot do anything about it

I'm not affiliated with Coinsbee in any way but you should know that MyPrepaidCenter is owned by Blackhawk network (who have 3000+ employees) and from my understanding, they're not only used by Coinsbee, but even with much bigger companies like G2A.[1][2] but yes, it does look like a lot of people are facing lots of troubl with them.

[1] https://blackhawknetwork.com/
[2] https://www.trustpilot.com/review/myprepaidcenter.com

[anonymouze2020]

Well my original problem has gotten sorted (i got the $5 balance to show up in my account) but now i'm facing the problem of what to do with not just thus $5 on myprepaidcenter.com but also the $10 card i bought from the bitcoin company using sats. The bitcoin company uses this site yourrewardcard.com. I'm guessing this too must be the exact same corporations that do the former site. Both of these cards do not work on where i intended to use them (Spokeo.com).

So my question now is, where are these cards spendable? Which merchants accept these cards? Spokeo itself is a scam service that tells you the report is just $0.95 but also tries to set you up on a monthly payment plan of much larger payments. So, maybe these virtual cards won't be accepted by them, for they want to scam people with regular credit cards who will not regularly check their statements.

Also, i wonder how a card purchased online can be a US card or a non-US card or an international card. Is it basically the pincode? If I want a card to be considered a US-card should I just enter a US pincode and some fake address? I mean these sites have no way of checking if i indeed live in the pincode i enter, so i can enter any pincode during registration, right?

[OmegaStarScream]

Well my original problem has gotten sorted (i got the $5 balance to show up in my account) but now i'm facing the problem of what to do with not just thus $5 on myprepaidcenter.com but also the $10 card i bought from the bitcoin company using sats. The bitcoin company uses this site yourrewardcard.com. I'm guessing this too must be the exact same corporations that do the former site. Both of these cards do not work on where i intended to use them (Spokeo.com).

So my question now is, where are these cards spendable? Which merchants accept these cards? Spokeo itself is a scam service that tells you the report is just $0.95 but also tries to set you up on a monthly payment plan of much larger payments. So, maybe these virtual cards won't be accepted by them, for they want to scam people with regular credit cards who will not regularly check their statements.

There's no way to tell for sure. You'd have to test that sadly. You can do that with small amounts and see for yourself, especially if the site you're using is not a well-known one.
And by the way, you're not the only one having issues with the Bitcoin company. I had a similar experience.

[anonymouze2020]

Well my original problem has gotten sorted (i got the $5 balance to show up in my account) but now i'm facing the problem of what to do with not just thus $5 on myprepaidcenter.com but also the $10 card i bought from the bitcoin company using sats. The bitcoin company uses this site yourrewardcard.com. I'm guessing this too must be the exact same corporations that do the former site. Both of these cards do not work on where i intended to use them (Spokeo.com).

So my question now is, where are these cards spendable? Which merchants accept these cards? Spokeo itself is a scam service that tells you the report is just $0.95 but also tries to set you up on a monthly payment plan of much larger payments. So, maybe these virtual cards won't be accepted by them, for they want to scam people with regular credit cards who will not regularly check their statements.

There's no way to tell for sure. You'd have to test that sadly. You can do that with small amounts and see for yourself, especially if the site you're using is not a well-known one.
And by the way, you're not the only one having issues with the Bitcoin company. I had a similar experience.

Actually The Bitcoin Company guys refunded my sats back to me. At least they have a customer support email and telegram system in place. Though, they showed a lot of attitude ("mate, you only have a $10 card, why are you wasting our time" etc. they're from Australia). But at least they refunded my money back to me. Didn't lose anything and gained 1000 sats for signing up on their stupid app.

But the MyPrepaidCenter thing is a disaster. There is no support email and you have to call their phone numbers. I have written about how I did not get (or maybe did not see the email) the code from them initially, and then somehow got a free international calling app (that provided just 2 minutes of 1 free call) and managed to call their Tolled support number, and get the card to show up in my account. But it was all for vain, the card would not work anywhere. I finally resorted to using it to top up some gift card balance on my amazon.com account (not my actual amazon.in account, it wouldn't work there). It's still wasted, since I can't really use this $5 balance to buy anything, the shipping on Amazon.com to India itself would be a lot lot more and they don't allow buying Kindle Books on Amazon.com that can be read by an account in India (*rolling my eyes*). Still better to waste it this way than have the cheaters at Pathward N.A. gobble up my $5 on an unused card.

MyPrepaidCenter and basically all Pathward N.A. cards only work on USA sites it seems.

Basically they're all cheating when they use words like Worldwide and International. These cards are not international. They only work on USA sites.

It's all a clusterf*ck, that's why the world needs bitcoin. These financial k*kes will create 100 hoops to jump through to even spend your own money. Bitcoin is the way.

Never buying any "card" issued by Pathward N.A.

[Mattcafc]

Anyone able to recommend a site that will sell a prepaid Visa card with no KYC that works in the uk? bitrefill Visa cards only work in US

[OmegaStarScream]

Anyone able to recommend a site that will sell a prepaid Visa card with no KYC that works in the uk? bitrefill Visa cards only work in US

The bitcoin company app should have that, I tried them some time ago. You don't need to do any ID verification but I had difficulties using the card on certain sites. I'd buy a very small denomination and try it out first if I were you.

Another service would be Bit.store (which I haven't tried) but I made a discussion about: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475083.20

[dkbit98]

Anyone able to recommend a site that will sell a prepaid Visa card with no KYC that works in the uk? bitrefill Visa cards only work in US

There are some virtual cards that are available but note that they have some restrictions for certain services, and they don't always work on all websites.
For bit.store cards you need to check the list of prohibited websites and risk scenarios before purchasing anything.
If you try to use them there anyway you will get trigger warning and they could froze or permanently ban your account and seize your money.

[Coinsbee.com]

Well my original problem has gotten sorted (i got the $5 balance to show up in my account) but now i'm facing the problem of what to do with not just thus $5 on myprepaidcenter.com but also the $10 card i bought from the bitcoin company using sats. The bitcoin company uses this site yourrewardcard.com. I'm guessing this too must be the exact same corporations that do the former site. Both of these cards do not work on where i intended to use them (Spokeo.com).

So my question now is, where are these cards spendable? Which merchants accept these cards? Spokeo itself is a scam service that tells you the report is just $0.95 but also tries to set you up on a monthly payment plan of much larger payments. So, maybe these virtual cards won't be accepted by them, for they want to scam people with regular credit cards who will not regularly check their statements.

There's no way to tell for sure. You'd have to test that sadly. You can do that with small amounts and see for yourself, especially if the site you're using is not a well-known one.
And by the way, you're not the only one having issues with the Bitcoin company. I had a similar experience.

@OmegaStarScream thx for you answers you are completly right.

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