🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[xxjumperxx]

I wanted to bet the game and wanted to wait to bet it a bit closer to Gametime but fell asleep! 
I was on the fence of taking the Seahawks and the Under, which would have both won... 

Oh well I will be sure to place my bets a bit earlier next time! lol 

[morvillz7z]

Cardinals gave that one away, so many dumb penalties throughout the entire game.

-the field goal for Seattle at the end first half was a gift, thanks to ARI player getting injured and stopping the clock SEA +3pts
-safety for holding (that was right after a grounding penalty on Murray) SEA +2pts
-the most ridiculous one was the taunting penalty, instead of a long FG attempt, SEA got a first down, and two plays later a TD SEA +4pts

and there you have it 9pts out of nothing.

Seahawks looked a little bit better with Hyde, they should be getting Carson soon, without a running game (play-action out of it) they are extremely predictable.

I was able to get the UNDER, had another betbuilder bet hit, and one just short, needed Murray to score a rush TD, it's not like they didn't run a play for him at 2nd and 2, but why did he choose to go outside on the play is beyond me, the middle was wide open...anyway, decent start of the week, let's hope we don't get rekt on Sunday again. 

[ChiBitCTy]

Arizona the Public Play today and the way they have been looking not surprised.
I dont like the Seattle Defense and to be honest, R. Wilson has not been looking like R. Wilson the last couple of games. Will he wake up today?

Im still on the fence but probaly give Wilson a chance. Lets hope he wakes up!

He didn't look like Wilson the last game but the game before he still threw for 390 yds and 2 TDs.  Last time he faced Arizone he put up 388 yards and 3 TDs..so I think he will "wake up" this game but I'm not sure it's enough to cover the -3 AZ spread, which is exactly how much they lost by last time they faced off in week 7.  They are at home this time however, so that certainly helps some.

The thing that has me on the fence is that Carson should be back too so thats huge.  He can burn clock when they are up or give a viable run option so the defenses can't play cover 2 otherwise Seattle will burn them with the run.  I might just bet the over and root for both offenses lol.  Now that I think of it thats my play over it is

I ended up betting Seattle at -3.  I was a bit worried since not too long before the game they had rulled Chris Carson out ( speaking of , that guy is a BEAST ) but I figured Carlos Hyde is a pretty solid back-up plan.  He ended up doing pretty well for my fantasy team too.  All and all this bet worked out so I'm a happy man! lol

[vella85]

Arizona the Public Play today and the way they have been looking not surprised.
I dont like the Seattle Defense and to be honest, R. Wilson has not been looking like R. Wilson the last couple of games. Will he wake up today?

Im still on the fence but probaly give Wilson a chance. Lets hope he wakes up!

He didn't look like Wilson the last game but the game before he still threw for 390 yds and 2 TDs.  Last time he faced Arizone he put up 388 yards and 3 TDs..so I think he will "wake up" this game but I'm not sure it's enough to cover the -3 AZ spread, which is exactly how much they lost by last time they faced off in week 7.  They are at home this time however, so that certainly helps some.

The thing that has me on the fence is that Carson should be back too so thats huge.  He can burn clock when they are up or give a viable run option so the defenses can't play cover 2 otherwise Seattle will burn them with the run.  I might just bet the over and root for both offenses lol.  Now that I think of it thats my play over it is

I ended up betting Seattle at -3.  I was a bit worried since not too long before the game they had rulled Chris Carson out ( speaking of , that guy is a BEAST ) but I figured Carlos Hyde is a pretty solid back-up plan.  He ended up doing pretty well for my fantasy team too.  All and all this bet worked out so I'm a happy man! lol

I think that is why we saw all the money come for the Cardinals to cover the +3. I don't like seeing that even if it is because a player is ruled out as the opposite happens more times then not and with the record the Seahawks have at home I still think they were tough to beat.

[wheelz1200]

Good game actually from the Seattle defense.  Was quite surprised actually.  Figures I pick the over and its the one game their defense decides to show up lol.

[Hueristic]

That was one game the smart money stayed on the sidelines.

I think I'll go back to rooting for the Raiders while the Pats rebuild for the next decade.

[nutildah]

Who do you guys like for tomorrow? Immediately I like Miami at +1 vs. Denver, might get in on that. Not really that many more interesting games for me on Sunday but on Monday we have Rams vs. Buccaneers. That's gonna be a great game. Of course I have to root for the Rams but I won't be putting in a bet as I've jinxed them 3 of 3 times this season.

[tyKiwanuka]

Immediately I like Miami at +1 vs. Denver, might get in on that.

Did you play that in early markets already ? Because it's -3.5 now, which looks about right, but +1 is nice value.


Taking my chances on Atlanta ML today, which is mainly based on what I saw from Winston last week and I was shocked how bad (maybe rusty) he looked. Sean Payton saw this as well, so Hill will be the starter today. I love this guy and all the things he can do, but he is most valuable as the role player he used to be imo. So my guess is, that we will see some good portion of Winston as well. In general the Saints aren't that strong this season, which is also because of Brees getting old. They are doing fine record-wise being 7-2, but there were some games which saw them struggling a lot against mediocre opposition. Falcons have found their rhythm lately and the defense has improved a lot. I think this will be a close one and with a couple of INT's from Winston, I like the odds for the Falcons.

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If Bridgewater is out, then I don't see how Carolina will be able to beat the Lions with Grier/Walker while still being CMC-less. Stafford has some thumb injury as well, but he will start. Around 1.80 for Lions atm.

Chargers and Vikings should have no problems in getting the better of Jets/Cowboys, but odds are low.

GB@IND should be a good one, where I see a lot of points being scored, but the line is high. And my bold pick would be the Jags to beat the Steelers, lol.

[JEFE92]

Good combo with great odds for today's matches. 2 weeks ago won 3/3 for Vikings, Texans and Falcons. Today I bet for Browns, Dolphins, Colts, Chiefs. According to stats they are almost stable. GL!

[morvillz7z]

I've decided to give my prop bets a rest this week, instead going with Washington ml + Browns ml and Patriots ml + Lions ml, both tickets over 3 total odds.

Wentz had zero interceptions and zero lost fumbles vs. Giants last week which is highly uncharacteristic of him, Browns won't have Myles Garrett (covid) but i'm sure they will bring enough pressure against Eagles awful OL.

Stephon Gilmore is available for the Patriots after missing a few games, decent boost for their defense, a good matchup against Fuller/Cooks.

I'm all in on Washington in of my fantasy leagues, Alex Smith, McLaurin, and J.D. McKissic have to all deliver for me, Mixon on IR.

[wheelz1200]

Won't be touching the Carolina and Detroit game.  Carolina is beat up with teddy and cmc out but the lions Galloway is out and Stafford has a thumb issue which does t ever bode well for quarterbacks.  I bet a wierd play wins this like a pick 6 or a punt return or something wierd.  Seems like a coin flip to me at best.

And I'm in on the Bengals ML today vs Washington, and ML on clevland.  Every nfc east team is awful.  No analysis needed just bet against any team from the east and in the end you should do alright

[ralle14]

Taking the Browns as they're undefeated at home and Patriots since they showed some signs of life after that upset against the Ravens.

For the 5pm matches i'm leaning on the Dolphins and maybe buy the points down to -2.5.

Edit : My Patriots bet looking dead already after that shutdown during the second quarter. Wentz on the other hand making the Browns look good at the moment.

[South Park]

Taking my chances on Atlanta ML today, which is mainly based on what I saw from Winston last week and I was shocked how bad (maybe rusty) he looked. Sean Payton saw this as well, so Hill will be the starter today. I love this guy and all the things he can do, but he is most valuable as the role player he used to be imo. So my guess is, that we will see some good portion of Winston as well. In general the Saints aren't that strong this season, which is also because of Brees getting old. They are doing fine record-wise being 7-2, but there were some games which saw them struggling a lot against mediocre opposition. Falcons have found their rhythm lately and the defense has improved a lot. I think this will be a close one and with a couple of INT's from Winston, I like the odds for the Falcons.

I watched this game and I was surprised they did not use Winston at all, Hill had a decent game, no interceptions, 2 rush TDs and one fumble, but I wonder what this means? There are many rumours that state Brees is going to retire at the end of this season, does coach Payton want to see what he has on Hill so he knows if he will be his starting QB next season or if he needs to draft a QB? Or is Winston so bad that Hill simply got the job over him?

And I'm in on the Bengals ML today vs Washington, and ML on clevland.  Every nfc east team is awful.  No analysis needed just bet against any team from the east and in the end you should do alright

And then Burrow got injured and the Bengals could not score at all after he left, while there is not a lot of information about the seriousness of the injury as of right now it seemed to me it had the potential to be a season ending injury, which is a shame as he was doing well and it seemed the first pick the Bengals used on him was justified.


Edit: It seems the season is over for him.

Thanks for all the love. Can’t get rid of me that easy. See ya next year

Source: https://twitter.com/JoeyB/status/1330616204172681222

[tyKiwanuka]

I watched this game and I was surprised they did not use Winston at all, Hill had a decent game, no interceptions, 2 rush TDs and one fumble, but I wonder what this means? There are many rumours that state Brees is going to retire at the end of this season, does coach Payton want to see what he has on Hill so he knows if he will be his starting QB next season or if he needs to draft a QB? Or is Winston so bad that Hill simply got the job over him?

Payton said he wants to see what he has in Hill. As you said he had a decent game, but this Falcons team was no benchmark today, so he would be wise to not draw too many conclusions out of todays performance (and he won't, since he is wise^^). Saints would have lost to a lot of teams today imo, but ATL was pretty toothless and Saints D had a good game. They will play @Broncos next week and this will be a different game for Hill. He won't get away with a lot of things he got away with today.

I personally don't see Hill being a starting QB in NFL, but you never know, he might grow into this challenge. I really liked the duo of Brees/Hill, was fun to watch, and would like the Saints to keep it this way - with another QB, whose name will not be Winston imo. He is only 26, but was never that good to begin with and it's rare to see a QB coming out of mediocrity just like that. If he is able to otoh, Payton did a good job then

[morvillz7z]

Nice win for the Colts in OT, they were close of winning it in regulation by completing a second-half comeback, just like their buddies (Titans) from AFC South did earlier today. So many holding penalties in the final 2 and half minutes though, i thought they were going to run the clock down after that gutsy 4th and 4 completion, still more penalties. Titans/Colts play next weekend, should be a good one.

Big thanks to Wentz for helping me win two of my matchups this week (i was streaming Browns defense - 20pts right there), pick-six, safety, another interception...my guy! 

[wheelz1200]

Taking my chances on Atlanta ML today, which is mainly based on what I saw from Winston last week and I was shocked how bad (maybe rusty) he looked. Sean Payton saw this as well, so Hill will be the starter today. I love this guy and all the things he can do, but he is most valuable as the role player he used to be imo. So my guess is, that we will see some good portion of Winston as well. In general the Saints aren't that strong this season, which is also because of Brees getting old. They are doing fine record-wise being 7-2, but there were some games which saw them struggling a lot against mediocre opposition. Falcons have found their rhythm lately and the defense has improved a lot. I think this will be a close one and with a couple of INT's from Winston, I like the odds for the Falcons.

I watched this game and I was surprised they did not use Winston at all, Hill had a decent game, no interceptions, 2 rush TDs and one fumble, but I wonder what this means? There are many rumours that state Brees is going to retire at the end of this season, does coach Payton want to see what he has on Hill so he knows if he will be his starting QB next season or if he needs to draft a QB? Or is Winston so bad that Hill simply got the job over him?

And I'm in on the Bengals ML today vs Washington, and ML on clevland.  Every nfc east team is awful.  No analysis needed just bet against any team from the east and in the end you should do alright

And then Burrow got injured and the Bengals could not score at all after he left, while there is not a lot of information about the seriousness of the injury as of right now it seemed to me it had the potential to be a season ending injury, which is a shame as he was doing well and it seemed the first pick the Bengals used on him was justified.


Edit: It seems the season is over for him.

Thanks for all the love. Can’t get rid of me that easy. See ya next year

Source: https://twitter.com/JoeyB/status/1330616204172681222

Yeah thats a shame.  This kid is real good was going to have one of the best statistical rookie quarterback years.  Never like to see someone get injured like that.  Hope he recovers well comes back next year just as strong as he was this year.

[bbc.reporter]

Nice win for the Colts in OT, they were close of winning it in regulation by completing a second-half comeback, just like their buddies (Titans) from AFC South did earlier today. So many holding penalties in the final 2 and half minutes though, i thought they were going to run the clock down after that gutsy 4th and 4 completion, still more penalties. Titans/Colts play next weekend, should be a good one.

Big thanks to Wentz for helping me win two of my matchups this week (i was streaming Browns defense - 20pts right there), pick-six, safety, another interception...my guy! 

Also the Cowboys win was nice hehe. I am quite certain the Vikings fans thought they had the win before that run on the 4th quarter for Cowboys.

All teams for the NFC east all in for a chance in the playoff hehehehe. I want the Redskins.

[wheelz1200]

Nice win for the Colts in OT, they were close of winning it in regulation by completing a second-half comeback, just like their buddies (Titans) from AFC South did earlier today. So many holding penalties in the final 2 and half minutes though, i thought they were going to run the clock down after that gutsy 4th and 4 completion, still more penalties. Titans/Colts play next weekend, should be a good one.

Big thanks to Wentz for helping me win two of my matchups this week (i was streaming Browns defense - 20pts right there), pick-six, safety, another interception...my guy! 

Also the Cowboys win was nice hehe. I am quite certain the Vikings fans thought they had the win before that run on the 4th quarter for Cowboys.

All teams for the NFC east all in for a chance in the playoff hehehehe. I want the Redskins.

The Giants definately have an edge on the redskins as they've beaten them twice already.  I still don't know who is going to come of this division but there is a REAL chance that someone only has 5 wins and takes the division, 6 tops is all i can see.  Unless someone gets much better.  Giants still have a game against the Bengals and Cowboys that are both winnable.  Eagles are a mess and cant get out of their own way.  Cowboys are a mystery and the redskins look on the right side of things with Alex Smith running the team now.  Haskins looks like a complete waste of a pick at this point

[ralle14]

After the underdog wins yesterday I don't know which team to take anymore. Bucs looking solid at home except for their division game against the Saints while the Rams are 50-50 on the road. I really like the Bucs to cover I expect this game to be a blowout kind of like how they won against the Packers but my record is terrible at the moment so i'll just go against my gut and go for the Rams.

[morvillz7z]

All teams for the NFC east all in for a chance in the playoff hehehehe. I want the Redskins.

Cowboys in my eyes have the easiest remaining schedule with 3 divisional games (two of those at home), Bengals, banged-up 49ers, and the Ravens.
Eagles next 4 vs. Seahawks, Packers, Saints, and Cardinals...i can't give them anything but four losses, and they are not benching Wentz, best case scenario Eagles finish the season with 5/10/1.
Giants have a bunch of tough games remaining but if they can win against the Browns or Cardinals at home, 6 and 10 is doable.
Washington has to win on Thanksgiving first and maybe hope the Giants finish with 5 and 10.

I want to see either NYG/WAS make the playoffs, if the Eagles somehow make it with 5/10/1, i pledge to not watch a single game until Super Bowl LV.. fuck Wentz

<...> so i'll just go against my gut and go for the Rams +4.5

Good luck with your bet, Goff was trash vs. Miami in their last away game, not sure what to expect from him, that's why i'm skipping this one, also want to finish the week with a positive record, took the Raiders with 2 extra pts on the spread with decent odds yesterday: