🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[Hhampuz]

Not sure if I'll be able to join this year unfortunately. Is there a deadline for when I have to give a final decision?

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[DireWolfM14]

And finally about the sleeper app, does it has a browser version so can I draft and do all what I could need to manage a team? If not and the majority decides to migrate to the app I will make do, but I really prefer to do things from my desktop computer rather than to use apps as the size of the font is kind of small, so if the sleeper website has that option that would be great.

I also prefer desktop sites and tried sleeper last year but their stats were wrong and they never replied to my emails asking for corrections.

I would prefer an app that I can access on a desktop browser also.  It's easier to do research and make changes when I can have multiple windows open at once, and dicking around on a phone is a pain at my age.

In real football news, thank God giants signed Barkley, that would have been a huge hole at running back.  Signed Jones for years and Thomas our left tackle for years.  They are 8.5-1 to win the nfc east.  I know eagles are favorites but I can see them regressing some.  Might throw a flyer on the g men

Like that was something they had to think about?  WTF?  I was rooting for the Giants to take the East last year, as long as it ain't the Cowgirls or the smEagles I'm good.

I went back and looked at yahoo's ratings of our draft report card last year and the top 3 teams were all rated in the bottom 4!  

I found that highly amusing.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/373233

That is funny.  IIRC, I was ranked 3rd after the draft and finished in 9th.  Pretty dismal year for me, hope to do better this year.  I still feel like winning 2021 was a fluke for me, but I'll keep reminding you guys that I won 2021.  

Not sure if I'll be able to join this year unfortunately. Is there a deadline for when I have to give a final decision?

The sooner the better, just so we can recruit a 12 participant if needed.  

The season starts Thursday September 7th, so I think we should have our draft the weekend before; Friday September 1st or Saturday the 2nd.  That's just a bit over a month away.

ETA:

If we do end up with 12 teams, I like the idea of 8 making it to the playoffs.  Quarter finals on week 15, Semi finals week 16, and Finals week 17.

What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest. 

If I recall, last year's entry fee was mBTC25, which is about $73 at the moment.  I'm good with keeping it at that.

[morvillz7z]

<...>If we do end up with 12 teams, I like the idea of 8 making it to the playoffs.  Quarter finals on week 15, Semi finals week 16, and Finals week 17.<...>

I'm not sure i like the idea of 8 playoff teams, that's more than 50% of the league making the playoffs, and those finishing 7 and 8 are likely to have losing records. It cheapens the regular season. In a 12-team league, 6 should be the max, with the top two seeds getting byes.


When we get to vote/discuss current format and settings i'd like to propose two changes:

1. replace kicker with a flex spot
2. switch from continual rolling waivers to reverse standings

[DireWolfM14]

<...>If we do end up with 12 teams, I like the idea of 8 making it to the playoffs.  Quarter finals on week 15, Semi finals week 16, and Finals week 17.<...>

I'm not sure i like the idea of 8 playoff teams, that's more than 50% of the league making the playoffs, and those finishing 7 and 8 are likely to have losing records. It cheapens the regular season. In a 12-team league, 6 should be the max, with the top two seeds getting byes.

You make a good point about it cheapening the regular season, I'm convinced.  In that case I would prefer 4 teams, and no bye week.

When we get to vote/discuss current format and settings i'd like to propose two changes:

1. replace kicker with a flex spot
2. switch from continual rolling waivers to reverse standings

I should have time this weekend to gather all the suggestions and start a poll for the settings and changes.

[wheelz1200]

I'm down for whatever price on the ff.

Cool beans.

In real football news, thank God giants signed Barkley, that would have been a huge hole at running back.  Signed Jones for years and Thomas our left tackle for years.  They are 8.5-1 to win the nfc east.  I know eagles are favorites but I can see them regressing some.  Might throw a flyer on the g men

I would say its better than even money they can catch a wildcard slot this year.





I went back and looked at yahoo's ratings of our draft report card last year and the top 3 teams were all rated in the bottom 4!  

I found that highly amusing.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/373233

It's always the joke in my one fantasy league.  Whoever "they" grade the lowest had the best draft.  It's funny because people think the rankings lines you up for a winning season.  What I've learned is that a decent amount is luck.  Injuries need to be minimal and ypu need to hit a couple flyers who weren't ranked that high. That's usually who wins it.

[ChiBitCTy]

I got your email Hueristic, and of course you know I'm in.  

When it comes to Yahoo rankings, typically I hate when my team has a good score. Good scores come from people who draft the next man up, which the system has ranked as the best player at that time, and so it adds the most points towards ranking the drafts.  That's why I hate when I get a good grade.  It means I haven't reached around enough for the outlier players. ( Edit: I just realized Wheelz essentially said the same thing lol)

Looking forward to the season ya'll..next Thursday is the first preseason game!

[Hueristic]

Not sure if I'll be able to join this year unfortunately. Is there a deadline for when I have to give a final decision?

I don't remember if we set one last year but thats something we need to discuss if we didnt.


Wan to reply to all you guys but really busy today, will get to it later.

also make sure you said to lock your spot up if you haven't.

those that haven't replied yet i'm going to guess probably used a toss away email for the league so could someone pm them for me, if not i'll do it when i get a minute.

[bbc.reporter]

@Hueristic. I recently read your email. I am certainly joining this season!

On the other details mentioned in this thread, I would like to vote for the same donation amount to the pot of .0025 similar to last season and also vote to use the same website Yahoo Fantasy. All of the other changes being discussed within the fantasy league, I will vote yes of most of the participants agrees and will also vote yes.

Also, welcome to @yahoo62278 and @SouthPark's victi, I mean recruit hehehe.

[ChiBitCTy]

Two days away from the very first preseason game!  They call it the "Hall of Fame Game".  Thursday at 7pm Chicago time.  Jets versus the Browns which would be a REALLY good game if all the starters actually played.  Since the pre-season is now only 3 games instead of 4, they may actually play starters in this game.  We sha'll see.

@Hueristic. I recently read your email. I am certainly joining this season!

On the other details mentioned in this thread, I would like to vote for the same donation amount to the pot of .0025 similar to last season and also vote to use the same website Yahoo Fantasy. All of the other changes being discussed within the fantasy league, I will vote yes of most of the participants agrees and will also vote yes.

Also, welcome to @yahoo62278 and @SouthPark's victi, I mean recruit hehehe.

I agree with you that sticking with Yahoo makes the most sense (though Sleeper is really growing on me and I believe is either the best or will be the best fantasy app before long).  I also agree with .0025BTC being a good amount as the buy in.

[yahoo62278]

Two days away from the very first preseason game!  They call it the "Hall of Fame Game".  Thursday at 7pm Chicago time.  Jets versus the Browns which would be a REALLY good game if all the starters actually played.  Since the pre-season is now only 3 games instead of 4, they may actually play starters in this game.  We sha'll see.

@Hueristic. I recently read your email. I am certainly joining this season!

On the other details mentioned in this thread, I would like to vote for the same donation amount to the pot of .0025 similar to last season and also vote to use the same website Yahoo Fantasy. All of the other changes being discussed within the fantasy league, I will vote yes of most of the participants agrees and will also vote yes.

Also, welcome to @yahoo62278 and @SouthPark's victi, I mean recruit hehehe.

I agree with you that sticking with Yahoo makes the most sense (though Sleeper is really growing on me and I believe is either the best or will be the best fantasy app before long).  I also agree with .0025BTC being a good amount as the buy in.

I'm super curious to see how this Jets team does this season. Adding Aaron Rodgers, probably picking up Dalvin Cook, and a top 5 defense I can see them winning 10-11 games this season.

When are we planning on doing the draft?

[Hueristic]

Ok so lets do a roll call here and see whats what.

suchmoon, IN

nutildah, IN

bbc.reporter, IN

South Park, IN

wheelz1200, IN

DireWolfM14, IN

morvillz7z, IN

Hampus, Undecided

ChiBitCTy, IN

Hueristic, IN

yahoo62278, Added

seek3r waiting on confirmation, pm'd

^^^-- If this list is incorrect let me know so I can update as we need this in stone before we vote for rules and settings.




Looks like first point of order is what deadline for locking up a slot.


Also we need to deciding draft date, IIRC we drafted the Sunday before week 1 last year?


Points to debate after we decide the final roster:

South Park:
1) Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?
2) About the second league, I am in, now we just have to wait to see if there is enough interest on it.

DireWolfM14:
1. What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

morvillz7z:
1. replace kicker with a flex spot
2. switch from continual rolling waivers to reverse standings

yahoo62278:
What is the buy-in and who/where are we sending it? I see .0025 mentioned but I want to be sure.



If I missed a point then let me know so I can add it, also if anyone wants to add a point then just quote the current points and add yours to the bottom and that way none will get lost as we progress and the last quoted one should be the most updated.

[Hueristic]

I got your email Hueristic, and of course you know I'm in. 

When it comes to Yahoo rankings, typically I hate when my team has a good score. Good scores come from people who draft the next man up, which the system has ranked as the best player at that time, and so it adds the most points towards ranking the drafts.  That's why I hate when I get a good grade.  It means I haven't reached around enough for the outlier players. ( Edit: I just realized Wheelz essentially said the same thing lol)

Looking forward to the season ya'll..next Thursday is the first preseason game!

thx for mentioning the email system worked fine, first time I tried it.

That is funny.  IIRC, I was ranked 3rd after the draft and finished in 9th.  Pretty dismal year for me, hope to do better this year.  I still feel like winning 2021 was a fluke for me, but I'll keep reminding you guys that I won 2021. 

Lol, I'm trying to forget that year.

The season starts Thursday September 7th, so I think we should have our draft the weekend before; Friday September 1st or Saturday the 2nd.  That's just a bit over a month away.
If we do end up with 12 teams, I like the idea of 8 making it to the playoffs.  Quarter finals on week 15, Semi finals week 16, and Finals week 17.

Works for me but I think Sunday the 3rd should be on the table as well.

Are we including preseason? Post season?

Not normally but if you have something you want to do for them just ask.
AFA a separate thread IIRC last year we decided to stay in this thread but I can put it on the vote list if you want.

[bbc.reporter]

I agree with @DireWolfM14 on having 2 payouts. If I remember correctly, everything went to the winner last year. This season we have 2 more recruits. Their entry fees can go to my opponent as 2nd prize after the final.

[Hueristic]

I agree with @DireWolfM14 on having 2 payouts. If I remember correctly, everything went to the winner last year. This season we have 2 more recruits.

We had a tie last year, remember the guy that died on the field from the Bills that collided with Higgins?

Their entry fees can go to my opponent as 2nd prize after the final.

LOL, I think we will probably all agree 2 or even 3 places will be good this year.




AFA a Deadline for locking up last years position I'm going to throw out 3 weeks before the season starts as it should give us 2 weeks to get another player if someone cannot commit and 1 week buffer for the draft.

Also if someone cannot commit we can still have them on the list if their circumstances change before we lock in a new player.

[seek3r]

Thanks for reminding me, Hueristic.

I would love to participate in this year. Maybe I need some help at the beginning because its my first Fantasy League but that are my only concerns right now.
In one of our posts you already mentioned some points that would be interesting for me aswell: Buyin, Start, 2nd league?!?!

Lets goo!!!!

[Hueristic]

Thanks for reminding me, Hueristic.

I would love to participate in this year. Maybe I need some help at the beginning because its my first Fantasy League but that are my only concerns right now.
In one of our posts you already mentioned some points that would be interesting for me aswell: Buyin, Start, 2nd league?!?!

Lets goo!!!!

Cool now that you checked in I think we are ready to start voting.

Roll call.

suchmoon, IN

nutildah, IN

bbc.reporter, IN

South Park, IN

wheelz1200, IN

DireWolfM14, IN

morvillz7z, IN

Hampus, Undecided

ChiBitCTy, IN

Hueristic, IN

yahoo62278, Added

seek3r added


So first thing we need to decide is deadline for keeping a spot locked up.

1) Spot lockup deadline

I vote 3 weeks prior to draft day.

2) date of draft day

I vote Sat or Sun before kickoff thursday.
I tend to goto casino friday nights.

3) Any Veto's on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?

I'm guessing this is a non issue but I want it to be fair and impartial.
I vote allow both unequivocally.

4) Keep me as Commish?

I vote yes unless someone else wants it and then I may change my vote.

5) Keep DW as treasurer?

I vote yes as he has done a stellar job the last 2 years.

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?

I'm unsure but I would lean yes as we can still get a majority vote without having everyone locked in.


Thats all I can think off of the top of my head that we need to address before the league for 2023 can be cemented and we can start discussing rules.


Also anyone intested in a second league we can start a list now and choose a comish and format.

[ChiBitCTy]

I'm good with pretty much everything laid out in those questions.  I think we should draft on a Sunday. I can make most Saturdays work, but Sundays I think are the best days for most people. 

I also think we should start with making any league changes before we get all 12 players locked up, no big deal not having that.  I say we start with getting rid of the kicker position.  I can't remember what else I though we should consider changing besides that, will have to review the leagues rules from last year. thx

@Hueristic. I recently read your email. I am certainly joining this season!

On the other details mentioned in this thread, I would like to vote for the same donation amount to the pot of .0025 similar to last season and also vote to use the same website Yahoo Fantasy. All of the other changes being discussed within the fantasy league, I will vote yes of most of the participants agrees and will also vote yes.

Also, welcome to @yahoo62278 and @SouthPark's victi, I mean recruit hehehe.

I agree with you that sticking with Yahoo makes the most sense (though Sleeper is really growing on me and I believe is either the best or will be the best fantasy app before long).  I also agree with .0025BTC being a good amount as the buy in.
[/quote]I'm super curious to see how this Jets team does this season. Adding Aaron Rodgers, probably picking up Dalvin Cook, and a top 5 defense I can see them winning 10-11 games this season.

When are we planning on doing the draft?
[/quote]

The Jets should bet quite good and fun to watch.  Still not sure if they are adding Dalvin Cook.  If they don't, they obviously think that Breece Hall is good to go, which would be great news for them as he's better than Cook and of course much younger.

[nutildah]

Get rid of the kicker? The kicker is a fantasy football institution since time immemorial. Getting rid of the kicker is like asking Catholics to give up rosary beads.

I'm in agreement with all this. A couple other things we'll also need to decide on is what the payout structure will be for the winner(s) and how many teams we have advancing to the playoffs. If hhampuz is out we'll need to find another player or cut one and go back down to 10... 11 teams is too weird. Personally I hope he stays in.

[bbc.reporter]

Thanks for reminding me, Hueristic.

I would love to participate in this year. Maybe I need some help at the beginning because its my first Fantasy League but that are my only concerns right now.
In one of our posts you already mentioned some points that would be interesting for me aswell: Buyin, Start, 2nd league?!?!

Lets goo!!!!

So first thing we need to decide is deadline for keeping a spot locked up.

1) Spot lockup deadline

I vote 3 weeks prior to draft day.

2) date of draft day

I vote Sat or Sun before kickoff thursday.
I tend to goto casino friday nights.

3) Any Veto's on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?

I'm guessing this is a non issue but I want it to be fair and impartial.
I vote allow both unequivocally.

4) Keep me as Commish?

I vote yes unless someone else wants it and then I may change my vote.

5) Keep DW as treasurer?

I vote yes as he has done a stellar job the last 2 years.

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?

I'm unsure but I would lean yes as we can still get a majority vote without having everyone locked in.

1) Agreed, but 2 weeks before is also okay.

2) Okay with me. We do not want our commissioner lost in a casino without internet on draft day heheheheee.

3) No veto.

4) Yes.

5) Yes.

6) This thread is always open, no choice but to vote yes hehe.



In any case, sharing this old article about football being a combat sport. Some of you might like it.



As I said earlier, football is basically simulated war, but with a ball. The offensive line and defensive line is the main war front. The line is arguably the most important part of a football game, protecting the quarterback, giving the running back and full backs room to run, and more.

The quarterback is your general. He commands the players, making the most important plays with the ball. He delegates to the wide receivers, tight end, running backs, blocking assignments from all positions, play calling, audible, and all. Running backs, receivers, and tight ends are your skill players. For the most part, they’re responsible for scoring in a variety of ways.

Defense is the same boat. An defensive line is the front. The linebackers are the generals. Secondary protects the endzone. All have similar goals to the offense, just the opposite.

Read in full https://mymmanews.com/is-american-football-a-combat-sport-yes-it-is/

[ChiBitCTy]

Get rid of the kicker? The kicker is a fantasy football institution since time immemorial. Getting rid of the kicker is like asking Catholics to give up rosary beads.

I'm in agreement with all this. A couple other things we'll also need to decide on is what the payout structure will be for the winner(s) and how many teams we have advancing to the playoffs. If hhampuz is out we'll need to find another player or cut one and go back down to 10... 11 teams is too weird. Personally I hope he stays in.

lol.  I'm in a league where they force us to have 2 kickers.  It's the dumbest league ever but I play in it because my best friend from HS asked me to co-manage it with him years ago, and it's a way for us to stay in touch and what not. Anyways I keep trying to get them to change the rules but they won't budge. I named my team "2 kickers 1 league" ..they weren't amused  (hopefully you get the joke there)



EDIT:  Everyone enjoy the Hall of Fame game tonight...first game of the season, even if it's preseason it's still NFL football!