Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide.

[panganib999]

As a gambler, I do always check of my bets in a sense that I do properly managed the way I organized the amounts of bet I spend in a game and after that, I just let the luck to play on my side even if I am playing in an online casino. Seriously, this information was just new for me, and what I can say is that it is worth a time for reading such a long explanation about what is provably fair is in any online casino sites. The information I have read was a new addition into my knowledge obtained here in the forum and I can say is that it is worthy and can be useful to check the fairness of the site when it comes to bets. But for sure well-known and reputable online casinos do exhibit proper and fair provably fair scripts on their site which make me worry less about my bets since I am playing into a reputable and trusted casino site. But just to satisfy my curiosity, I will give it a shot to check the provably fair script of the site so I can make use of the knowledge and information I obtain in this thread.

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[smyslov]

can we say that even a reputable gambling website won't cheat its users? we don't know because the system isn't transparent. So definitely, there are part of this that cheating really occurs sometimes on reputable or non-reputable platforms and we aren't aware of that.

Not because you are checking you do not trust the platform where you are playing you just want to make sure that they are fair so your trust can grow more, and you can recommend it to your friends because the platform you are playing is fair and you yourself proved it because this is very important in any gambling sites people are trusting because they know that luck and their skills is the one that they can rely to win and if they lose because luck is not on their side not because they are cheated.

[KTChampions]

If the reputable gambling website cheating the members, and the members know, they will get into the problem, and the member can chase the site with help from other people who know about the law. Yes, we don't know if the system cheats or not, but we can anticipate from the cheat by not using too big money for playing gambling.

But isn't the point of the Provably Fair system just to know for sure that everything is fair? As I understand it, any player with average technical knowledge/ability can check the fairness of the game on the history of their bets. I read that there are certain nuances and "loopholes" but in general the system works like this.

[famososMuertos]

Read about FP things like the OP, if you think necessary, that is, don't just read, study it.

In any case, for the vast majority, knowing that there is PF is enough.

The PF not has NOTHING to do with your earnings. Neither when you lose nor when you win.
If you think that because a site has PF, you are guaranteed that you will never lose or that the bad streak you are having is normal. You should add to your reading not only FP, you should read about the stakes, the variance, the probability.

Fall into the review, of each bet! it can be a bad practice that leads to losses. If you have $ 100 and bet $ 10 it is great if you do it for fun, you may hit a big prize.

But if you are doing it for real profit, you want to start being a winner, start with a loss of $ 1 after betting 5000 times or more, it's the beginning.

Always check the profit / loss, the size of the BET in relation to your bankroll and enjoy growing see your wagered.

Be careful, checking the PF too many times turns into a placebo effect.

G.B.
PF:Provably Fair

[Ayiranorea]

Verifying the bets will give you awareness and idea on the platform you are betting with so as a gambler, you must do things like this to be aware of your bets and secure your earnings.

But most of us don't do this kind of things, they'll just bet and leave the platform without observing how it works because they thought it'll be a waste of time.  

As a gambler, I am having a difficulty in verifying the fairness of every website that I was able to play even if they are giving an instruction on how we will be
able to check the fairness in their platform.

And I am wondering also if the script that they are giving can be altered easily just to cheat the players and they are just displaying the script just to say that they
are fair. And with regards to client and server seed, I am very poor about it even if you are giving a good example to it.

For a reputable gambling website, they won't cheat to their member or they will lose their members if somehow, their members know about that. That gambling site will tell that they are fair enough to their members, and even, they can invite people to try to test their script to know if they are fair or not. I never think about fair or not because I don't play gambling as other people. And for me, as long as I can play without any problem, that will be fair.

How can we say that even a reputable gambling website won't cheat its users? we don't know because the system isn't transparent. So definitely, there are part of this that cheating really occurs sometimes on reputable or non-reputable platforms and we aren't aware of that.

Agreed, this will happen very rare with the reputed gambling sites. No gambling platform will leave its gamblers for any reason, as well as ruining the reputation for such reasons will surely create a negative opinion upon the site. There isn't transparency, but we can check the fairness. Until there arise an fault we can't question the gambling site.

[Google+]

If the reputable gambling website cheating the members, and the members know, they will get into the problem, and the member can chase the site with help from other people who know about the law. Yes, we don't know if the system cheats or not, but we can anticipate from the cheat by not using too big money for playing gambling.

But isn't the point of the Provably Fair system just to know for sure that everything is fair? As I understand it, any player with average technical knowledge/ability can check the fairness of the game on the history of their bets. I read that there are certain nuances and "loopholes" but in general the system works like this.

I think the gambling place that provides that sentence can be used to make players more sure about the betting system that is being carried out because usually when there is no writing like that the players think that the gambling place is manipulating the game, maybe that's what I know from the gambling place circulating at this time.

[qory]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

[noormcs5]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

You should check if the site offer you to verify the bets. If there is no option on the site to verify, then there is 80% chance that the site is not Provably Fair. I always try to play on sites which are transparent and offer to verify the games.

[Lordhermes]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

Most time the result gets upset to gamblers making them feeling negatively whether their plays is significant to right direction or not but the result had always gone in an opposite direction, sometimes it could be from the website setting that no winning should come from the gamblers and if gamblers should notice that, meanwhile should find the nearest exit because that's never a fair website. Observing the casino plays is a good step that's why I have always considered football betting option because results are fair.

[aioc]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

You should check if the site offer you to verify the bets. If there is no option on the site to verify, then there is 80% chance that the site is not Provably Fair. I always try to play on sites which are transparent and offer to verify the games.

This thread will helped a lot of gamblers and if they are promoting their referral links to promote a gambling site this is a big help they can promote how fair the site by letting them check the algo, gamblers are comfortable in playing in a site that is known as fair.

[JohnBitCo]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

You should check if the site offer you to verify the bets. If there is no option on the site to verify, then there is 80% chance that the site is not Provably Fair. I always try to play on sites which are transparent and offer to verify the games.

This thread will helped a lot of gamblers and if they are promoting their referral links to promote a gambling site this is a big help they can promote how fair the site by letting them check the algo, gamblers are comfortable in playing in a site that is known as fair.

I always feel comfortable in depositing money in the casino which are old ones and trusted. I do try new casino's but mostly play with the free money which they offer. Once I realize that the site is trustable, Provably Fair and no bad feedback reported, only then i deposit my money on those new gambling sites.

[arwin100]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

You should check if the site offer you to verify the bets. If there is no option on the site to verify, then there is 80% chance that the site is not Provably Fair. I always try to play on sites which are transparent and offer to verify the games.

This thread will helped a lot of gamblers and if they are promoting their referral links to promote a gambling site this is a big help they can promote how fair the site by letting them check the algo, gamblers are comfortable in playing in a site that is known as fair.

I always feel comfortable in depositing money in the casino which are old ones and trusted. I do try new casino's but mostly play with the free money which they offer. Once I realize that the site is trustable, Provably Fair and no bad feedback reported, only then i deposit my money on those new gambling sites.

I feel the same way to since I can leave for a while without worrying about my money at the old sites compare to those new where they don't have any reputation to break and anytime they can run since they already got the funds of their gamblers. So for this discussion about fairness its truly better for us to go on olds since the assurance is 100%.

But for news I still doesn't have any guts to deposit on then and I just monitored first if they are reliable and looking for promotion and marketing conducted by them since by this it could tell that the site have bright future.

[john_nautica]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

You should check if the site offer you to verify the bets. If there is no option on the site to verify, then there is 80% chance that the site is not Provably Fair. I always try to play on sites which are transparent and offer to verify the games.

This thread will helped a lot of gamblers and if they are promoting their referral links to promote a gambling site this is a big help they can promote how fair the site by letting them check the algo, gamblers are comfortable in playing in a site that is known as fair.

I always feel comfortable in depositing money in the casino which are old ones and trusted. I do try new casino's but mostly play with the free money which they offer. Once I realize that the site is trustable, Provably Fair and no bad feedback reported, only then i deposit my money on those new gambling sites.

I feel the same way to since I can leave for a while without worrying about my money at the old sites compare to those new where they don't have any reputation to break and anytime they can run since they already got the funds of their gamblers. So for this discussion about fairness its truly better for us to go on olds since the assurance is 100%.

But for news I still doesn't have any guts to deposit on then and I just monitored first if they are reliable and looking for promotion and marketing conducted by them since by this it could tell that the site have bright future.

Well said. It is more easy to rely and be assured with old sites, especially those sites that are long known to be fair and has clear record. IT is really a must to check on these new sites and also pay attention to the feedback of those people who had experienced with them to avoid making mistakes.

[KTChampions]

But isn't the point of the Provably Fair system just to know for sure that everything is fair? As I understand it, any player with average technical knowledge/ability can check the fairness of the game on the history of their bets. I read that there are certain nuances and "loopholes" but in general the system works like this.

I think the gambling place that provides that sentence can be used to make players more sure about the betting system that is being carried out because usually when there is no writing like that the players think that the gambling place is manipulating the game, maybe that's what I know from the gambling place circulating at this time.

In fact, all these fears of players came to gambling from earlier times when honesty was not controlled by mathematics and evidence, but by regulatory authorities (or no one at all) and, accordingly, there was a huge field for manipulation.

[peter0425]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

You should check if the site offer you to verify the bets. If there is no option on the site to verify, then there is 80% chance that the site is not Provably Fair. I always try to play on sites which are transparent and offer to verify the games.

This thread will helped a lot of gamblers and if they are promoting their referral links to promote a gambling site this is a big help they can promote how fair the site by letting them check the algo, gamblers are comfortable in playing in a site that is known as fair.

Good way of bringing new gamblers to the site who are willing to be check if they are using this system.

Trust will be established between, we as gamblers knows that trusted gambling house recieve more players supports.
The more they show how genuine the system is the more players / gamblers to join and play inside the house.

[Oilacris]

I really learned a lot reading from here I never thought that provably fair might be not fair as well, whenever I see a "Probably Fair" option in the tab or somewhere the casino I just thought that they are fair already I think I should now start checking the casino on where I am currently playing.

It might be shameful to say but i do accept nor i do have same impressions when i do see that provably fair tab where i do automatically believe that theyre fair just because you can
able to check it out but in most cases im not really that too much concern to verify things up as long i do see players then thats already a go.

It do really changes up my perception when i do read up this thread and it really open my eyes on how important on verifying things up and you would be that confident
that you are playing on a fair site.

From now on, i will change up that kind of behavior and starting to verify things up from time to time specially on newer sites.

[ethereumhunter]

If the reputable gambling website cheating the members, and the members know, they will get into the problem, and the member can chase the site with help from other people who know about the law. Yes, we don't know if the system cheats or not, but we can anticipate from the cheat by not using too big money for playing gambling.

But isn't the point of the Provably Fair system just to know for sure that everything is fair? As I understand it, any player with average technical knowledge/ability can check the fairness of the game on the history of their bets. I read that there are certain nuances and "loopholes" but in general the system works like this.

Yes, they can check the fairness, but not all gamblers can do that, and some of them are only want to play gambling without thinking about fairness or not. But they will search for the fairness of the game on that site by reading many sources, so they don't have to worry about fairness. It is good for people who can check the fairness of the game, so if they find something strange, they can show to people, and maybe they can get help from other people who can check the fairness.

[shoreno]

If the reputable gambling website cheating the members, and the members know, they will get into the problem, and the member can chase the site with help from other people who know about the law. Yes, we don't know if the system cheats or not, but we can anticipate from the cheat by not using too big money for playing gambling.

But isn't the point of the Provably Fair system just to know for sure that everything is fair? As I understand it, any player with average technical knowledge/ability can check the fairness of the game on the history of their bets. I read that there are certain nuances and "loopholes" but in general the system works like this.

Yes, they can check the fairness, but not all gamblers can do that, and some of them are only want to play gambling without thinking about fairness or not. But they will search for the fairness of the game on that site by reading many sources, so they don't have to worry about fairness. It is good for people who can check the fairness of the game, so if they find something strange, they can show to people, and maybe they can get help from other people who can check the fairness.

Playing without paying attention on other details is a suicide and it's similar to giving away your money to the strangers .

They play using their own money because they are also expecting for some return but if they don't like to verify their bets then  it's better if they will only use fake money or faucet money to play for fun  .

[Rune]

I have never verified provably fair bets but I was believing in it back when I used to gamble I feel stupid for that now.
I did only bet on the most reputuble sites Primedice and Bitsler  but still you should check the authenticity if your risking your money.
I now think its not only dangerous but stupid to gamble at all never mind do it with out verifying the bets I lost so much money gambling never again.
When you give these people your bitcoins you're thinking its only a few hundred dollars or whatever but its actually whatever bitcoin becomes worth in the future to. Feels bad to lose more bitcoin at casinos then I will ever make again.

[FontSeli]

But isn't the point of the Provably Fair system just to know for sure that everything is fair? As I understand it, any player with average technical knowledge/ability can check the fairness of the game on the history of their bets. I read that there are certain nuances and "loopholes" but in general the system works like this.

I think the gambling place that provides that sentence can be used to make players more sure about the betting system that is being carried out because usually when there is no writing like that the players think that the gambling place is manipulating the game, maybe that's what I know from the gambling place circulating at this time.

In fact, all these fears of players came to gambling from earlier times when honesty was not controlled by mathematics and evidence, but by regulatory authorities (or no one at all) and, accordingly, there was a huge field for manipulation.

Now sometimes you can also find gaming sites created by scammers. These sites do not exist for long, but they manage to deceive a certain number of people. Therefore, people who have passed through the hands of such scammers will be cautious about other online casinos.