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Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late Who knows it might be a closer or tighter fight than the first one but the overwhelming view seems to be a win for Fury. Wilder will always be dangerous with his right hand but Fury pretty much nullified it in the second fight. I should have added that to the options but for some reason completely overlooked it as an option. I wonder how that would have affected things in the poll but better late than never I will add it now but the idea of a draw again even though most commentators along with current professional and ex-boxers put that draw down to a fix and thought Fury won the first fight. Let us see what happens to the poll now because "Draw" has been added as an option Ha. Bit late for that now . I doubt many would have backed the draw from the start though. Most seem to be overwhelming in favour of Fury winning again. If I had to bet I'd go with Fury but I think it will be closer and Wilder still has that knock out punch that Fury needs to avoid. Anything could happen and that's why I'm looking forward to this fight.
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April 23, 2020, 09:29:23 AM |
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Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight . Who knows it might be a closer or tighter fight than the first one but the overwhelming view seems to be a win for Fury.
Wilder will always be dangerous with his right hand but Fury pretty much nullified it in the second fight.
I believe it will be a close fight, and hilariousetc is correct, it's possible that the fight will end up a draw.
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April 23, 2020, 09:53:47 AM |
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Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight . Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Who knows it might be a closer or tighter fight than the first one but the overwhelming view seems to be a win for Fury.
Wilder will always be dangerous with his right hand but Fury pretty much nullified it in the second fight.
I believe it will be a close fight, and hilariousetc is correct, it's possible that the fight will end up a draw. It is going to be a very close one. While it is probably going to end with a KO, it could easily go to either of the fighters.
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April 23, 2020, 11:50:34 AM |
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But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Wow, that is a very interesting, 26+ odds, I think I will have to check that.. by the way, what sports book you are using? Can you share it here, I like to verify the odds, so I can put my bet. I check on https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Boxing/Boxing%20Matches - but no betting for draw. while no betting odds in playbetr and sportsbet.io.
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April 23, 2020, 03:28:05 PM |
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Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight . Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. People said that about the first fight. Like Fury did in the second fight Wilder needs to learn from his mistakes and that's why I think this one will be a lot closer as Wilder will be far more cautious. He went into the fight far too lazily. I don't know whether he thought he was going to get an easy knockout or what be he got a shock. I can't see him doing that again especially as this will be his final shot at getting those belts back. If Fury wins then he'll just go on to fight Joshua, assuming he doesn't lose his next fight and the belts. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Wow, that is a very interesting, 26+ odds, I think I will have to check that.. by the way, what sports book you are using? Can you share it here, I like to verify the odds, so I can put my bet. I check on https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/Boxing/Boxing%20Matches - but no betting for draw. while no betting odds in playbetr and sportsbet.io. I don't know about bitcoin sportsbooks but 26+ odds for the draw on regular ones probably isn't unusual. I think it was around that for the last fight. You'll be able to get 20/1 at least.
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April 23, 2020, 10:19:48 PM |
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Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight . Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. I'm one of those people who believes that this one won't be a Draw. Seldom we could see a rematch or trilogy that ended up in a two draws. The first fight is already a draw so this time the judges already knew what to do lol. My fearless forecast for this fight is that it won't be like the second where Fury annihilated Wilder from the start. Wilder will adjust and it could be a boring one since we could see a lot of clinching here on both fighters.
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April 23, 2020, 11:38:03 PM |
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Wilder will adjust and it could be a boring one since we could see a lot of clinching here on both fighters.
I don't think this would happen, Wilder is not a fighter who loves to clinch as he is looking for his shot, while Fury would not allow a short distance since he will impose his reach and without his Jab and good head movement, he will be able to hit Fury and score, even if he can't knock him again. That's just my opinion though, things could be different in the ring, and just like most of us thinking that Fury would still win, we could be wrong as no one really know what would happen come this fight night.
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April 24, 2020, 03:45:02 AM |
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But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. Wow, that is a very interesting, 26+ odds, I think I will have to check that.. by the way, what sports book you are using? Can you share it here, I like to verify the odds, so I can put my bet. Mate, I was talking about their previous match. Here it is, anyway: Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight . Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. People said that about the first fight. Like Fury did in the second fight Wilder needs to learn from his mistakes and that's why I think this one will be a lot closer as Wilder will be far more cautious. He went into the fight far too lazily. I don't know whether he thought he was going to get an easy knockout or what be he got a shock. I can't see him doing that again especially as this will be his final shot at getting those belts back. If Fury wins then he'll just go on to fight Joshua, assuming he doesn't lose his next fight and the belts. That's why I am equally excited about how each of their team is planning on the most clever of strategies this time around. I think Wilder was feeling very superior, invulnerable even, in their first match. With an unblemished hell of a record, he must have thought everything is a walk in the park. This upcoming 3rd match, and after his bubble was burst in the 2nd, he's going to be feeling the opposite, for sure. I'm one of those people who believes that this one won't be a Draw. Seldom we could see a rematch or trilogy that ended up in a two draws. The first fight is already a draw so this time the judges already knew what to do lol.
Precisely! That's probably one of the main reasons why the draw odds in the 2nd match ballooned. That was next to impossible. In a match-up like that, you better give the restless fans a controversial split or an equally controversial majority decision rather than give them a 2nd consecutive draw. That would be unbearably off taste.
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April 24, 2020, 09:18:16 AM |
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Yes adding that "Draw" option was way too late That's alright was only few would vote for the Draw, majority would still pick Fury to win, and we have to note that not all posters here are gamblers or will gamble in this particular fight . Yeah, a draw is highly unlikely to happen. Both men have very strong punches and could easily take each other's consciousness out. But I have to admit that although I placed my bet on Fury in their last match, I also put a little wager on draw. Who knows, right? That was 26+ odds. I'm one of those people who believes that this one won't be a Draw. Seldom we could see a rematch or trilogy that ended up in a two draws. The first fight is already a draw so this time the judges already knew what to do lol. My fearless forecast for this fight is that it won't be like the second where Fury annihilated Wilder from the start. Wilder will adjust and it could be a boring one since we could see a lot of clinching here on both fighters. But if that's the case then why wouldn't or couldn't the fight be a draw? If it's a boring one then it easily could be, unless Wilder just goes on the defensive but that isn't going to win him the fight unless he can finally KO Fury at some point this time. If Wilder wants his belts back then he's going to have to go all out because he's unlikely to win on points... or the fight could end in another draw. People said that about the first fight. Like Fury did in the second fight Wilder needs to learn from his mistakes and that's why I think this one will be a lot closer as Wilder will be far more cautious. He went into the fight far too lazily. I don't know whether he thought he was going to get an easy knockout or what be he got a shock. I can't see him doing that again especially as this will be his final shot at getting those belts back. If Fury wins then he'll just go on to fight Joshua, assuming he doesn't lose his next fight and the belts.
That's why I am equally excited about how each of their team is planning on the most clever of strategies this time around. I think Wilder was feeling very superior, invulnerable even, in their first match. With an unblemished hell of a record, he must have thought everything is a walk in the park. This upcoming 3rd match, and after his bubble was burst in the 2nd, he's going to be feeling the opposite, for sure. He did seem like he went in to the fight like it was no big deal but then quickly realised it was. I'd be surprised if he makes the same mistakes again. He knows he can't do that. Hopefully Fury doesn't go into this fight thinking he it will be a breeze again either. They've both got a long time to prepare for it though but hopefully neither of them will slack off.
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April 24, 2020, 09:44:33 AM |
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This fight will be move to October 3, this year according to the article I read. https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/677648/boxing-news-tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-date-start-time-coronavirus-pandemic/Fury vs Wilder 3: Date and time Fury is slated to fight Wilder for the third time next after the Bronze Bomber took up his rematch clause.
The date and location of the bout has not officially been confirmed yet and was expected to be held at the MGM Grand again on July 18.
That has had to be changed due to the ongoing issues surrounding the pandemic and the fight is now reportedly set to take place on October 3 in Las Vegas again.
More time for Wilder to prepare, this is a revenge fight, he has to take it seriously and accept defeat if ever he will lose in this fight again.
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April 24, 2020, 08:59:50 PM |
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Wait? What? Do you have friends inside on telling such thing?..(Joke).
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~ Well that supposedly drinking spree when he won against Klitschko was really to start of Fury's downward spiral isn't it? He went from a world champion to absolute rubbish, drinking and taking drugs and the people behind him that time are not looking for his best interest. And now that he has a second coming, yes it's ok to celebrate after a big win against Wilder, but put yourself in his shoes, do you think that he will go back to his old habits? I mean he was given the second chance here, logical people won't even go back to their old self. And as I have said, it seems that this time, the team behind him are far more better in making a decision for Fury, specially his wife and family. So I do hope that with this lockdown he will remain sober and think about his future. This is actually true yet for sure he had made some realizations back to that day and with his current standing and reputation for sure he wont make the same thing and instead would be focused more on his career.Its isnt bad to hangout and make some celebration but it should really need up some moderation. ~ More time for Wilder to prepare, this is a revenge fight, he has to take it seriously and accept defeat if ever he will lose in this fight again.
Thanks for the update and that would really hurt that much if he would still lose in second time.
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April 24, 2020, 10:33:22 PM |
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This fight will be move to October 3, this year according to the article I read. https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/677648/boxing-news-tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-date-start-time-coronavirus-pandemic/Fury vs Wilder 3: Date and time Fury is slated to fight Wilder for the third time next after the Bronze Bomber took up his rematch clause.
The date and location of the bout has not officially been confirmed yet and was expected to be held at the MGM Grand again on July 18.
That has had to be changed due to the ongoing issues surrounding the pandemic and the fight is now reportedly set to take place on October 3 in Las Vegas again.
More time for Wilder to prepare, this is a revenge fight, he has to take it seriously and accept defeat if ever he will lose in this fight again. Yes more time to prepare or just delaying the inevitable. Sometimes fights that are postpone put a lot of mental stress specially if you are the one chasing and wanting to make a big revenge win in the case of Wilder. Maybe he is taking the training lightly and not to push himself and overtrain. So many variables right now because of this pandemic that really affected a lot of sporting events. But then again, if Wilder shows the same self, no adjustment and just really on his power, then I guess it will be the same result.
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April 26, 2020, 07:07:47 PM |
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Wilder will adjust and it could be a boring one since we could see a lot of clinching here on both fighters.
I don't think this would happen, Wilder is not a fighter who loves to clinch as he is looking for his shot, while Fury would not allow a short distance since he will impose his reach and without his Jab and good head movement, he will be able to hit Fury and score, even if he can't knock him again. That's just my opinion though, things could be different in the ring, and just like most of us thinking that Fury would still win, we could be wrong as no one really know what would happen come this fight night. Clinching is definitely not on the best interests of Wilder, you could see during the second fight that Fury leaned on very heavily on Wilder when they clinched, this is a very old tactic in which the heavier fighter tries to wear down the stamina of his opponent, and quite frankly it seemed to have an effect on Wilder. So what should Wilder do in order to try to win the third fight? Since it is really difficult he is going to learn how to box at a high enough level in such a short amount of time to match Fury’s skill level my opinion is that he should learn how to unleash to power of his right hand while going backwards and with a small amount of space, if you look at most of his KOs you will see he knocks people out while he is the one going forward and his opponent is going backwards and Fury is not going to allow that to happen.
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April 26, 2020, 10:46:15 PM |
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if you look at most of his KOs you will see he knocks people out while he is the one going forward and his opponent is going backwards and Fury is not going to allow that to happen.
yes, that is correct, actually he only struggles against Fury as Fury can take his punches and he has a better strategy to beat him. Fury is bigger and taller than him, so Fury is just playing his game right, and with his very impressive body movement, that makes Wilder to struggle hitting his target, seems like Fury has been the Kryptonite of Wilder.
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April 26, 2020, 11:36:41 PM |
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his very impressive body movement, that makes Wilder to struggle hitting his target, seems like Fury has been the Kryptonite of Wilder. The impressive footwork and body movements and weaving is the the biggest difference, you cannot find a fighter who moves like a lighter wight fighter with a huge frame, all of the fights Wilder had in the past were stationary targets and he was able to land the heavy punch but with Fury he was not able to land the decisive punch even though he was able to land in the first fight Fury was able to absorb that, the most interesting part of this fight for me is how Wilder will return after a loss.
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April 27, 2020, 06:09:46 AM |
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the most interesting part of this fight for me is how Wilder will return after a loss.
It's his last chance, if he will not work hard on figuring how to beat Fury, then we can't expect him to be champion again, he might retire afterwards, who knows. I still believe on Wilder, though people think he lose in bought fights, but I think only the fight number 2 was a pretty convincing loss of Wilder, we will be able to find out in fight number 3, but like I said, Wilder still has a good chance of winning here.
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April 28, 2020, 02:16:10 PM |
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the most interesting part of this fight for me is how Wilder will return after a loss.
It's his last chance, if he will not work hard on figuring how to beat Fury, then we can't expect him to be champion again, he might retire afterwards, who knows. I still believe on Wilder, though people think he lose in bought fights, but I think only the fight number 2 was a pretty convincing loss of Wilder, we will be able to find out in fight number 3, but like I said, Wilder still has a good chance of winning here. I wouldn't say it's his last chance, well to regain his belt at least. But he can continue to box again even if he losses in the trilogy. Might not be the same pay check though, as obviously he is no longer the champion. He can work his way up again, probably 2-3 years down to line and make himself the top contender again. For me, it is going to be more on the preparation of the mind more than his body. If in his mind says that he longer have it if he losses this fight, then maybe he will retire.
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April 28, 2020, 02:24:26 PM |
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the most interesting part of this fight for me is how Wilder will return after a loss.
It's his last chance, if he will not work hard on figuring how to beat Fury, then we can't expect him to be champion again, he might retire afterwards, who knows. I still believe on Wilder, though people think he lose in bought fights, but I think only the fight number 2 was a pretty convincing loss of Wilder, we will be able to find out in fight number 3, but like I said, Wilder still has a good chance of winning here. I wouldn't say it's his last chance, well to regain his belt at least. But he can continue to box again even if he losses in the trilogy. Might not be the same pay check though, as obviously he is no longer the champion. He can work his way up again, probably 2-3 years down to line and make himself the top contender again. For me, it is going to be more on the preparation of the mind more than his body. If in his mind says that he longer have it if he losses this fight, then maybe he will retire. Last chance to remain in the top.. he needs to beat Fury, that way he will reclaim his belt and he will get bigger fights in the future. Wilder has gone in a lot of battle, he KO's most of his opponents, so he really has that kind of positive mentality, he always go for a kill though.
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I cannot see Wilder fighting again after this re-match against Fury because Fury will win and Wilder will losr - exactly why would Wilder fight again? He will not be able to recover mentally from another defeat and that should put all issues about him fighting again to rest.
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I also think Wilder could lose the fight against Fury. If the event could take place, there is talk that it could be in October, for the fight to take place. It should be an event with spectators. The last fight raised $ 17m ticket sales and without the fans, there is no business. 'The fans in the last fight put in almost $17m into the coffers in the purchase of tickets… how do you replace that?': Tyson Fury's trilogy bout with Deontay Wilder may have to 'wait a couple more months' beyond October so it's safe for spectators, warns Bob Arum. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8240271/Tyson-Fury-vs-Deontay-Wilder-III-October-safe-fans-says-Bob-Arum.html
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