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However, what is the news update on Deontay Wilder? Will he accept the money offered to step aside? Nevermind Anthony Joshua's opponent. For certain he will take his offer hehehe.
There is no update yet but I don't think he will take the money just to step aside, that is so embarrassing, he is a true warrior, he didn't even accept a defeat and he just makes excuses on his heavy suit, so let's expect that Fury vs Wilder 3 will push through. Yep, Wilder is focused on avenging his lost to Fury so I don't think that he is willing to step aside now. Besides, there is a contractual obligations, for sure they can somewhat bend it if both parties agree, but he has set his eyes on Fury for now so I doubt that he will take offers unless the money is too big to resists like in the $50-$100 million but at this point no individual or group of individuals are willing shell out that big money.
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May 03, 2020, 11:30:07 AM |
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However, what is the news update on Deontay Wilder? Will he accept the money offered to step aside? Nevermind Anthony Joshua's opponent. For certain he will take his offer hehehe.
There is no update yet but I don't think he will take the money just to step aside, that is so embarrassing, he is a true warrior, he didn't even accept a defeat and he just makes excuses on his heavy suit, so let's expect that Fury vs Wilder 3 will push through. Right now, it is hard to tell if there will be boxing match this year. Most of them already postponed their matches. I don't think Wilder will also accept the money. It is better to see the 3rd instalment of this match. But seems that we need to wait long time, maybe late next year? No one should take the money to step aside as this is not about the money, it is about the pride. If anyone takes the money, they will lose their fans forever and people will not like this behavior. As far as the match date is concerned, i think we may see this match in 2021 and not before that time.
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It would have made an interesting fight seeing Wilder and Joshua while both were undefeated but it would still make an interesting fight. With both being undefeated I would have backed Wilder to destroy Joshua by going all out for him and giving him a brutal KO within 2 or 3 rounds but now things have changed a lot. Going by the way Joshua out boxed Ruiz to win back the title he lost and going by the way Fury out boxed WIlder, I am not sure Wilder would beat Joshua if they fought today. I would think right now Fury is top of the current crop of heavyweight boxers. Joshua, Wilder, Ruiz and maybe a couple more are in the same bracket. Then lower than that would be the next group. @JollyGood - I agree, Wilder(pre Fury defeat) vs Joshua(pre Ruiz defeat) will be a good one. And I think Wilder will knock out Joshua that time. Well obviously, the negotiations that time fell apart and everyone is pointing fingers as who is to blame.
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No one should take the money to step aside as this is not about the money, it is about the pride. If anyone takes the money, they will lose their fans forever and people will not like this behavior. The fighters have big ego and usually the fighters who earn big money usually does not step aside, but what if they offer big amounts to step aside and make a contract that they will face them at a later time and there is no doubt that AJ and Fury will be a blockbuster fight. As far as the match date is concerned, i think we may see this match in 2021 and not before that time. It is hard to imagine any sporting events resuming anytime soon unless they want to conduct the fight in empty stadiums then they might carry on with the fight this year, if not next year is the possibility. I would think right now Fury is top of the current crop of heavyweight boxers. Joshua, Wilder, Ruiz and maybe a couple more are in the same bracket. Then lower than that would be the next group. Fury is the undisputed king as long as he has the undefeated record and anything can happen in a fight, a freak injury or a lucky knockout, Joshua and Wilder made a mark in the industry but Ruiz is yet to make that as he went off the radar after the second fight, these three fighters can always attract a huge crowd in the heavyweight division.
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May 03, 2020, 08:15:49 PM |
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I would think right now Fury is top of the current crop of heavyweight boxers. Joshua, Wilder, Ruiz and maybe a couple more are in the same bracket. Then lower than that would be the next group.
Right, he is a shoulder above the rest of the current heavyweight right now. Before it was Joshua and Wilder and obviously, they have lost that 0 already and Fury come back and reclaim the belt he won from Wladimir Klitschko. But what happened to him after that big win was history (mental breakdown, alcoholism etc). So he was really on top already prior to the breakdown and those belts that both Joshua and Wilder has was his in the first place since and he was strip and then vacated the rest of the title.
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May 03, 2020, 10:31:04 PM |
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46 votes in the poll so far
38 vote for Fury 8 votes for Wilder
According to this poll, Wilder has got almost no chance.
There is not much confidence in him winning according to members here. On the other side Fury has captured the imagination of voters here with the majority clearly going for a Fury win.
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May 03, 2020, 11:00:57 PM |
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According to this poll, Wilder has got almost no chance.
It could be different comes in real fight, what we are seeing now is a result of being a human, that's how the brain of human works, we think Wilder has no chance because he lose in the last fight, we have become the servant of our new king which is Fury, but I'll take chances on Wilder a bit, the guy is a Warriors, getting a lower chance to win is alright if only based on people's judgement, but he will show up in the coming fight with better betting odds if he'll win.
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May 03, 2020, 11:39:53 PM |
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No one should take the money to step aside as this is not about the money, it is about the pride. If anyone takes the money, they will lose their fans forever and people will not like this behavior.
Boxing is all about money, pride is second IMO. Team Wilder is changing people on their camp and if they realizes that a trilogy this year or early next year is not appropriate then i think they would accept the step aside money. There is not much confidence in him winning according to members here. On the other side Fury has captured the imagination of voters here with the majority clearly going for a Fury win.
There is a saying, "You are only as good as your last performance", that maybe the reason why poll result is like that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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May 04, 2020, 11:27:00 AM |
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No one should take the money to step aside as this is not about the money, it is about the pride. If anyone takes the money, they will lose their fans forever and people will not like this behavior.
Boxing is all about money, pride is second IMO. Team Wilder is changing people on their camp and if they realizes that a trilogy this year or early next year is not appropriate then i think they would accept the step aside money. There is not much confidence in him winning according to members here. On the other side Fury has captured the imagination of voters here with the majority clearly going for a Fury win.
There is a saying, "You are only as good as your last performance", that maybe the reason why poll result is like that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . No matter how Wilder screw the last fight with Fury, he deserves a trilogy with an Englishman. He showed his skills for at least half of decade and we can scratch off such talented and titled boxer. We simply cannot. And Fury fight with AJ is another kettle of fish.
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May 04, 2020, 11:31:35 AM |
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No matter how Wilder screw the last fight with Fury, he deserves a trilogy with an Englishman. He showed his skills for at least half of decade and we can scratch off such talented and titled boxer. We simply cannot.
And Fury fight with AJ is another kettle of fish.
I certainly agree with you on that, Wilder is challenged here, he still believe he can beat Fury so that's interesting if we can see him knock down the guy who beat him twice, lol... I am sure this is a hell of a fight, just like the last 2 fights although it was never favored Wilder but a desperate man will show everything he got in this last fight.
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May 04, 2020, 11:41:05 AM |
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According to this poll, Wilder has got almost no chance.
It could be different comes in real fight, what we are seeing now is a result of being a human, that's how the brain of human works, we think Wilder has no chance because he lose in the last fight, we have become the servant of our new king which is Fury, but I'll take chances on Wilder a bit, the guy is a Warriors, getting a lower chance to win is alright if only based on people's judgement, but he will show up in the coming fight with better betting odds if he'll win. It's because we also see the boxers are good as their last fight. So obviously, Wilder lost the fight and Fury won it convincingly. That's why some gave Fury no chance to win in the trilogy. And then we heard his excuse after the fight which makes us think that Wilder was such a clown blaming everyone and literally everything his outfit ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) . So we judge him during and after the fight. So he needs to show up in the trilogy totally different. He still has the chance to win, if he adjust. Odds are attractive, but lets see once everything settles down in the next 6 months and hope that the fight will happen.
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May 04, 2020, 01:37:17 PM |
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46 votes in the poll so far
38 vote for Fury 8 votes for Wilder
According to this poll, Wilder has got almost no chance.
There is not much confidence in him winning according to members here. On the other side Fury has captured the imagination of voters here with the majority clearly going for a Fury win.
My vote made that 39-8 in favor of Fury. No one in their right mind would say that Deontay Wilder has absolutely no chance here. He is having a good chance, but I would say that Fury is having a better probability of winning. A few months back, I would have gone with Wilder. But after watching the fight with Fury on February this year, my opinion has changed.
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May 04, 2020, 03:15:57 PM |
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47 votes in the poll so far39 vote for Fury 8 votes for WilderKeep the votes coming in please. The odds according to users in the forum are clearly in favour of a Fury win ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) 83% are voting for a Fury win 17% are voting for a Wilder win
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May 05, 2020, 11:44:41 AM |
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According to this poll, Wilder has got almost no chance.
It could be different comes in real fight, what we are seeing now is a result of being a human, that's how the brain of human works, we think Wilder has no chance because he lose in the last fight, we have become the servant of our new king which is Fury, but I'll take chances on Wilder a bit, the guy is a Warriors, getting a lower chance to win is alright if only based on people's judgement, but he will show up in the coming fight with better betting odds if he'll win. It's because we also see the boxers are good as their last fight. So obviously, Wilder lost the fight and Fury won it convincingly. That's why some gave Fury no chance to win in the trilogy. And then we heard his excuse after the fight which makes us think that Wilder was such a clown blaming everyone and literally everything his outfit ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) . So we judge him during and after the fight. So he needs to show up in the trilogy totally different. He still has the chance to win, if he adjust. Odds are attractive, but lets see once everything settles down in the next 6 months and hope that the fight will happen. The fight will happen for sure, for Wilder it should give him a lot of time to train, he does have the money, he doesn't need to work anymore, just train for the time being so he will be fully prepare if the 3rd fight will happen this year. For Wilder, he should not play the blame game anymore, some people still trust him and in fact I could bet on him with his betting odds.
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May 05, 2020, 12:35:43 PM |
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According to this poll, Wilder has got almost no chance.
It could be different comes in real fight, what we are seeing now is a result of being a human, that's how the brain of human works, we think Wilder has no chance because he lose in the last fight, we have become the servant of our new king which is Fury, but I'll take chances on Wilder a bit, the guy is a Warriors, getting a lower chance to win is alright if only based on people's judgement, but he will show up in the coming fight with better betting odds if he'll win. It's because we also see the boxers are good as their last fight. So obviously, Wilder lost the fight and Fury won it convincingly. That's why some gave Fury no chance to win in the trilogy. And then we heard his excuse after the fight which makes us think that Wilder was such a clown blaming everyone and literally everything his outfit ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) . So we judge him during and after the fight. So he needs to show up in the trilogy totally different. He still has the chance to win, if he adjust. Odds are attractive, but lets see once everything settles down in the next 6 months and hope that the fight will happen. The fight will happen for sure, for Wilder it should give him a lot of time to train, he does have the money, he doesn't need to work anymore, just train for the time being so he will be fully prepare if the 3rd fight will happen this year. For Wilder, he should not play the blame game anymore, some people still trust him and in fact I could bet on him with his betting odds. It will be a good fight for sure because Wilder has a spirit of revenge in order to regain his title back. Fury worked and trained hard in order to get better shape and that is why we beat Wilder in their second fight. I'm sure that the fight will happen maybe next year because there are still pandemic out there. I'll bet again with Fury because he is not boastful like Wilder and he will make sure that he will win again in their next fight.
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If the fight goes ahead I am sure (just like you) that Fury will win. Whether he wins in round 1 or round 12 depends on which mental and physical shape Wilder will be in. The eventuality as far as I am concerned cannot be changed - Fury will win. I do cannot see this re-match going to 12 rounds and I do not see Wilder going beyond 5 or 6 rounds at most, I think Fury will win by clear KO. It will be a good fight for sure because Wilder has a spirit of revenge in order to regain his title back. Fury worked and trained hard in order to get better shape and that is why we beat Wilder in their second fight. I'm sure that the fight will happen maybe next year because there are still pandemic out there. I'll bet again with Fury because he is not boastful like Wilder and he will make sure that he will win again in their next fight.
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May 05, 2020, 02:54:16 PM |
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46 votes in the poll so far
38 vote for Fury 8 votes for Wilder
According to this poll, Wilder has got almost no chance.
Wilder is all about talk when he said he can beat the hell out of Fury, when Fury has all the ability to take him down. Wilder also said in the interview that he can beat the prime Mike Tyson with no problem. he may be good right now but beating Mike in his prime is another deluded imagination.
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May 05, 2020, 04:01:38 PM |
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I certainly agree with you on that, Wilder is challenged here, he still believe he can beat Fury so that's interesting if we can see him knock down the guy who beat him twice, lol... I am sure this is a hell of a fight, just like the last 2 fights although it was never favored Wilder but a desperate man will show everything he got in this last fight.
I have a different opinion here, Wilder is not challenged but he is not yet ready to accept the defeat, there is a big difference ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Every fighter will have the confidence to beat anyone, but need to have the technical skills and a fight IQ when you are facing top competition and everyone know how to box but how you handle the situation during a fight determines the winner. If Wilder can show a dimension he never showed that would be interesting.
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Come on people keep the votes coming in please. We have 47 votes so far, let us get to 50 then see what the percentages for a Fury win vs Wilder win will be ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Come on people keep the votes coming in please. We have 47 votes so far, let us get to 50 then see what the percentages for a Fury win vs Wilder win will be ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It already shows the percentages, 83% for Tyson. I think this is slightly more favorable than what the bookies will offer though. I'm expecting 3:1 on Fury and 1:2 on Wilder—or there abouts. Wish it would name and shame those that think it's Wilder, so we can ridicule them when he loses a third time in a row. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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