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Question: Fury vs Wilder III --- who will win?
Tyson Fury - 69 (80.2%)
Deontay Wilder - 16 (18.6%)
Draw - 1 (1.2%)
Total Voters: 86

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May 24, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
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The fight has been postponed, so why is this thread still open?

Also, the poll is completely unnecessary, it's quite clear that Fury has won by an absolute landslide, more votes will achieve nothing.

I suggest locking this thread until the fight is rescheduled.

I also suggest locking this thread there is a tentative date in November but that is still months away if the fight will push through the hype will begin in the month of September, all we can give on this thread are just speculation and updates for people to remember that the fight is a go,
I also participated in a similar poll like this and the results are all the same Fury will win unanimously.

November is too far away and i don't think we have anything more to discuss about this fight at the moment. The fight final date will only be confirmed seeing the world covid 19 situation at that particular time. We can't assume anything as of now.

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May 24, 2020, 11:53:34 AM
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November is too far away and i don't think we have anything more to discuss about this fight at the moment. The fight final date will only be confirmed seeing the world covid 19 situation at that particular time. We can't assume anything as of now.

Wait if there's a boxing event that would happen next month.

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May 24, 2020, 12:18:13 PM
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Fury did an interview with Sky Sports on on the 22nd and in it he was asked about future fights, and in it he alluded that if he loses he'll be fighting Wilder again before anyone else and could keep going on and on, so it looks like he will have the rematch clause: https://youtu.be/MgGgUFRy5N4?t=212

If he does lose and they have a rematch they should just sign a deal that it's the last fight with no rematches as it could get ridiculous. I don't think they should go past a trilogy but I guess if Fury does lose then he will want the rematch.

So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight. He needs to perform even better in this trilogy so that there will be no doubts as to who really is the greatest in this generation. And this is what fans wanted to see and still going to watch even if the price is ridiculous because of the pandemic.

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May 24, 2020, 12:35:44 PM
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Fury did an interview with Sky Sports on on the 22nd and in it he was asked about future fights, and in it he alluded that if he loses he'll be fighting Wilder again before anyone else and could keep going on and on, so it looks like he will have the rematch clause
I was not interested to see the third fight, it would have been great if Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fought before that and then come back for another fight to complete the trilogy, it seems that they will be fighting forever if Wilder somehow wins the third fight and they will sign a two fight deal for the best of 5 should be declared the winner  Grin.

If he does lose and they have a rematch they should just sign a deal that it's the last fight with no rematches as it could get ridiculous. I don't think they should go past a trilogy but I guess if Fury does lose then he will want the rematch.
Tyson Fury might not accept a clause like this because if he looses he wanted to have a rematch because Wilder is a really strong puncher and one knock could end the fight and Fury knows the danger even though he dominated both the fights.
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May 24, 2020, 01:25:19 PM
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52 votes in the poll so far

44 vote for Fury
8 votes for Wilder


Still not faith in Wilder winning, all the votes seem to be going for a Fury win Grin

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May 24, 2020, 11:00:33 PM
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So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight.
It's not for him because even if he will lose in this fight and there's a another fight that is going to happen, people will still watch and both of them will certainly still make a good paycheck.

However, for fans, we don't want to see another fight, we like Fury to win.


He needs to perform even better in this trilogy so that there will be no doubts as to who really is the greatest in this generation. And this is what fans wanted to see and still going to watch even if the price is ridiculous because of the pandemic.

Fans does not seem to care of the price at the moment since we only spend on limited things, so we still get the best deal to entertain ourselves.
The last fight was entertaining especially for the Fury fans but this time around Wilder fans are looking forward a flip of the result they saw last time, a knockout win would be a great bounce back from his last performance.

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May 24, 2020, 11:24:20 PM
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So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight.
It's not for him because even if he will lose in this fight and there's a another fight that is going to happen, people will still watch and both of them will certainly still make a good paycheck.

However, for fans, we don't want to see another fight, we like Fury to win.
It would really need to be closed just like any other great fights that we have seen that last upto trilogy.
This fight will surely prove out on whose a better fighter between the two but if wilder won this time then expect for
4th fight. Grin


He needs to perform even better in this trilogy so that there will be no doubts as to who really is the greatest in this generation. And this is what fans wanted to see and still going to watch even if the price is ridiculous because of the pandemic.

Fans does not seem to care of the price at the moment since we only spend on limited things, so we still get the best deal to entertain ourselves.
The last fight was entertaining especially for the Fury fans but this time around Wilder fans are looking forward a flip of the result they saw last time, a knockout win would be a great bounce back from his last performance.
Theres always a chance but if Wilder would really have some adjustment on tactics and not just depending on raw power on
their next match.When it comes to body movement then fury do have it in spite of its shape and he should really have that
kind of versatility too.We know on what he's capable of but i would always bet for Fury on this fight again.

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May 25, 2020, 11:58:12 AM
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So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight.
It's not for him because even if he will lose in this fight and there's a another fight that is going to happen, people will still watch and both of them will certainly still make a good paycheck.

However, for fans, we don't want to see another fight, we like Fury to win.
It would really need to be closed just like any other great fights that we have seen that last upto trilogy.
This fight will surely prove out on whose a better fighter between the two but if wilder won this time then expect for
4th fight. Grin
That's probably the scenario if Wilder wins, so if Wilder wants more money, he need to train hard and win this one, a 4th one would be very interesting but it should be the last, unless the outcome will be a DRAW. Grin




He needs to perform even better in this trilogy so that there will be no doubts as to who really is the greatest in this generation. And this is what fans wanted to see and still going to watch even if the price is ridiculous because of the pandemic.

Fans does not seem to care of the price at the moment since we only spend on limited things, so we still get the best deal to entertain ourselves.
The last fight was entertaining especially for the Fury fans but this time around Wilder fans are looking forward a flip of the result they saw last time, a knockout win would be a great bounce back from his last performance.
Theres always a chance but if Wilder would really have some adjustment on tactics and not just depending on raw power on
their next match.When it comes to body movement then fury do have it in spite of its shape and he should really have that
kind of versatility too.We know on what he's capable of but i would always bet for Fury on this fight again.


It's hard for him to adjust, all his fights that he had successfully won, he depends on his power, he does not have a lot of head movement like other boxer, he is a kind of boxer who likes to go forward and go for a kill in just one punch, unfortunately, Fury is just too powerful that he can't take for just one punch, in fact, we've seen Fury knock down 2 times IIRC in the first fight, but he came back the fight ended up a DRAW.

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May 25, 2020, 12:17:27 PM
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That's probably the scenario if Wilder wins, so if Wilder wants more money, he need to train hard and win this one, a 4th one would be very interesting but it should be the last, unless the outcome will be a DRAW. Grin

Draw? No one knows but its unlikely to happen for a fight that do end up on 4th but if management do see that
they can milk out soo much money then why not?  Cheesy

It's hard for him to adjust, all his fights that he had successfully won, he depends on his power, he does not have a lot of head movement like other boxer, he is a kind of boxer who likes to go forward and go for a kill in just one punch, unfortunately, Fury is just too powerful that he can't take for just one punch, in fact, we've seen Fury knock down 2 times IIRC in the first fight, but he came back the fight ended up a DRAW.

That one is indeed controversial but overall we can see on whose the real winner on that fight and it had been proven out on
2nd bout and now we go to the third which would really be a closing one in case.

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May 25, 2020, 12:17:43 PM
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November is too far away and i don't think we have anything more to discuss about this fight at the moment. The fight final date will only be confirmed seeing the world covid 19 situation at that particular time. We can't assume anything as of now.

Wait if there's a boxing event that would happen next month.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/05/21/boxing-set-for-june-9-return-in-las-vegas/

Bob Arum, the famous promoter is on a big mission as he plans to set a boxing event next month, if that will be positive, then we can expect that this fight will happen soon.

Nothing will be more better than this if we could witness live boxing next month. However if it is approved by Nevada Athletic Commission, it will still be without the crowd and players will have to undergo the covid 19 clearance test.
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May 25, 2020, 04:01:17 PM
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Fury did an interview with Sky Sports on on the 22nd and in it he was asked about future fights, and in it he alluded that if he loses he'll be fighting Wilder again before anyone else and could keep going on and on, so it looks like he will have the rematch clause: https://youtu.be/MgGgUFRy5N4?t=212

If he does lose and they have a rematch they should just sign a deal that it's the last fight with no rematches as it could get ridiculous. I don't think they should go past a trilogy but I guess if Fury does lose then he will want the rematch.

So it's compelling for Fury to really finished this match in fashion so that we won't see a 4th and 5th fight. He needs to perform even better in this trilogy so that there will be no doubts as to who really is the greatest in this generation. And this is what fans wanted to see and still going to watch even if the price is ridiculous because of the pandemic.
I think the ball should be in the court of Wilder to perform and recapture his belt. He is the one who are going to adjust. Fury will still do the same, execute the same strategy, heavier and bigger, used his boxing skills, etc.

Rematch clause is there for a reason, to make more money for them. Definitely, boxing fans wanted to see more action between the two so if there will be a fourth fight, expect it to sell and bring fans to the arena.

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May 25, 2020, 05:49:51 PM
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I think the ball should be in the court of Wilder to perform and recapture his belt. He is the one who are going to adjust. Fury will still do the same, execute the same strategy, heavier and bigger, used his boxing skills, etc.
This is the funniest response i saw till now, in the second fight Fury changed his fighting style completely and Wilder does not know anything else other than waiting for the knockout punch and landing one. Are you telling me that Wilder will learn boxing while he is at the end of his career Tongue.

Rematch clause is there for a reason, to make more money for them. Definitely, boxing fans wanted to see more action between the two so if there will be a fourth fight, expect it to sell and bring fans to the arena.
You can do something for a certain amount of time but if you overdo something then the interest will die off eventually. After seeing two fights and how Fury dominated in majority of the fight and how one sided the second fight was the third fight should be the final showdown.
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May 26, 2020, 03:54:44 AM
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I think the ball should be in the court of Wilder to perform and recapture his belt. He is the one who are going to adjust. Fury will still do the same, execute the same strategy, heavier and bigger, used his boxing skills, etc.
This is the funniest response i saw till now, in the second fight Fury changed his fighting style completely and Wilder does not know anything else other than waiting for the knockout punch and landing one. Are you telling me that Wilder will learn boxing while he is at the end of his career Tongue.
You said Fury adjusted, then why can't Wilder do the same, simple adjustment like more head movement, angles so that Fury will have a hard time hitting him in the face. Yes, maybe he will be having a hard time to re-adjust his fighting style. This is like a chess game, and one key for Wilder to win and be unpredictable.

Perhaps he was eager for a trilogy because he knows he did something wrong in the second fight, so we will see. If he losses in the same fashion and we didn't see any adjusted then say goodbye to his career.

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May 26, 2020, 04:12:18 AM
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@JollyGood. The replies in here are similar to the replies since the ending of the fight hehehe. Can you change the poll to what fight do you want to have for Tyson Fury? The options clearly being Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder hehehe.

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May 26, 2020, 04:14:44 AM
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I think the ball should be in the court of Wilder to perform and recapture his belt. He is the one who are going to adjust. Fury will still do the same, execute the same strategy, heavier and bigger, used his boxing skills, etc.

This is the funniest response i saw till now, in the second fight Fury changed his fighting style completely and Wilder does not know anything else other than waiting for the knockout punch and landing one. Are you telling me that Wilder will learn boxing while he is at the end of his career Tongue.
You said Fury adjusted, then why can't Wilder do the same, simple adjustment like more head movement, angles so that Fury will have a hard time hitting him in the face. Yes, maybe he will be having a hard time to re-adjust his fighting style. This is like a chess game, and one key for Wilder to win and be unpredictable.

Perhaps he was eager for a trilogy because he knows he did something wrong in the second fight, so we will see. If he losses in the same fashion and we didn't see any adjusted then say goodbye to his career.

@Yaunfitda there’s a big difference between what Fury did, and what you’re expecting Wilder to do at this stage of his career. Also if it’s pertinent to note that you’re not alone who wants Wilder to make drastic changes to his style, as Fury’s former trainer has also advised Wilder to land more punches if he wants to win, but he has also warned Wilder that if he gets exhausted Fury will once again beat him.

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Davison believes that Wilder will have to change his output and land more punches to be successful against Fury.
A precise shot from Wilder can knock anybody out. Increasing the volume will increase the probability of landing clean on the champion. But, as Davison pointed out, he should do it consistently. Otherwise, Fury will take over as Wilder fades. Also, Fury has more tools to win than Wilder.


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https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-ben-davison-reveals-how-deontay-wilder-can-beat-tyson-fury/

https://www.essentiallysports.com/tyson-fury-made-one-crucial-change-to-steal-the-win-against-deontay-wilder-boxing-news/
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May 26, 2020, 12:11:54 PM
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That's probably the scenario if Wilder wins, so if Wilder wants more money, he need to train hard and win this one, a 4th one would be very interesting but it should be the last, unless the outcome will be a DRAW. Grin

Draw? No one knows but its unlikely to happen for a fight that do end up on 4th but if management do see that
they can milk out soo much money then why not?  Cheesy
Draw is possible but with a little chance since Fury has already figured out how to beat Wilder, but remember it happened in the first fight, so I guess betting on the draw in this fight have some value. I think the odds was somewhere around 20 or 26.. it has been posted in the previous posts, I just can't remember who posted it.


It's hard for him to adjust, all his fights that he had successfully won, he depends on his power, he does not have a lot of head movement like other boxer, he is a kind of boxer who likes to go forward and go for a kill in just one punch, unfortunately, Fury is just too powerful that he can't take for just one punch, in fact, we've seen Fury knock down 2 times IIRC in the first fight, but he came back the fight ended up a DRAW.

That one is indeed controversial but overall we can see on whose the real winner on that fight and it had been proven out on
2nd bout and now we go to the third which would really be a closing one in case.

In case Fury will win which a lot of us here believe it will happen.
Anyway, if a 4th fight will happen, then be it, these two are the most popular personalities in boxing sports, and if they keep fighting, they will also keep making money. Fury was really good in selling the fight, I was thinking he was just all talk but he also do the talking in the ring, and a lot of us was surprise that Wilder an undefeated will lose to Fury, so it's really time for Wilder to redeem, otherwise it will be the final fight series.

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May 26, 2020, 02:59:39 PM
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Anyway, if a 4th fight will happen, then be it, these two are the most popular personalities in boxing sports, and if they keep fighting, they will also keep making money.

I doubt that these two will ever surpass popularity of Ali and Tyson. Or will earn enough as Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Yes, they are popular, but only now. When they retire from sport, people will forget about they in 3-5 years.

I really doubts that these two would ever inspire kids or even whole generation to sign to boxing section Smiley

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May 26, 2020, 06:37:32 PM
Last edit: May 26, 2020, 09:54:33 PM by ene1980
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~snip
You said Fury adjusted, then why can't Wilder do the same, simple adjustment like more head movement, angles so that Fury will have a hard time hitting him in the face. Yes, maybe he will be having a hard time to re-adjust his fighting style. This is like a chess game, and one key for Wilder to win and be unpredictable.

Perhaps he was eager for a trilogy because he knows he did something wrong in the second fight, so we will see. If he losses in the same fashion and we didn't see any adjusted then say goodbye to his career.
Your doubt was genuine, why cant Wilder change his style and make adjustments. Wilder started boxing at  20 years and he is not technically a sound boxer but all of his wins are from his punching power and not because of his boxing skills on the other hand Fury started at a really young age and has strong fundamentals and usually change his stances and styles according to the opponent and Fury does not rely on punching power but through his boxing technical skills. Wilder is 34 years old and to expect him to change his style at this age is a huge task.
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May 26, 2020, 08:46:16 PM
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Anyway, if a 4th fight will happen, then be it, these two are the most popular personalities in boxing sports, and if they keep fighting, they will also keep making money.

I doubt that these two will ever surpass popularity of Ali and Tyson. Or will earn enough as Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Yes, they are popular, but only now. When they retire from sport, people will forget about they in 3-5 years.

I really doubts that these two would ever inspire kids or even whole generation to sign to boxing section Smiley


Lol, Tyson Fury and Wilder do have it's own fan base and when they retire they are still popular among its people. Sports figures that you mentioned are popular in their own rights and i think that they won't be forgotten as their works were etched in the boxing history books, only fanatics like us will be forgotten in history  Smiley. Just like Manny Pacquaio, when he retire, he is still very popular here in the Philippines and new generation will remember him as he is one of the greatest the Philippines had produced.

Fury vs wilder 4 is possible and it depends on the outcome of their third fight.

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May 26, 2020, 11:49:17 PM
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Anyway, if a 4th fight will happen, then be it, these two are the most popular personalities in boxing sports, and if they keep fighting, they will also keep making money.

I doubt that these two will ever surpass popularity of Ali and Tyson. Or will earn enough as Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Yes, they are popular, but only now. When they retire from sport, people will forget about they in 3-5 years.

I really doubts that these two would ever inspire kids or even whole generation to sign to boxing section Smiley


Lol, Tyson Fury and Wilder do have it's own fan base and when they retire they are still popular among its people. Sports figures that you mentioned are popular in their own rights and i think that they won't be forgotten as their works were etched in the boxing history books, only fanatics like us will be forgotten in history  Smiley. Just like Manny Pacquaio, when he retire, he is still very popular here in the Philippines and new generation will remember him as he is one of the greatest the Philippines had produced.

Fury vs wilder 4 is possible and it depends on the outcome of their third fight.

Different era though, so it's really hard to compare Ali and Tyson during their prime in the heavyweight division. Same prior to Fury taking over that division, Lennox and Klitschko brothers.

But we will see, only time can tell, maybe 5-10 after those two will retire, we will see how fans are going to remember Fury/Wilder/Joshua's careers.

Damn, we really can't wait for this fight to happen!

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