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Question: Fury vs Wilder III --- who will win?
Tyson Fury - 69 (80.2%)
Deontay Wilder - 16 (18.6%)
Draw - 1 (1.2%)
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July 03, 2020, 02:43:03 AM
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An article pops up accusing Fury of loading his gloves, this is according to Wilder's brother.

Fury Vows To End Wilder's Career After Claim of Loaded Gloves

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In a recent social media post, Marsellos Wilder, the younger brother of former heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder, made a sensational claim that Tyson Fury may have loaded his gloves for the rematch with Deontay back in February.

“You know it’s crazy when you [are] great. They gotta do everything that is underneath real to figure out how to stop you. And the most wicked sh-t about [it] is- people on your own team will do anything for the hate [or] money to help [the opponents] take you down. It was discovered by doctors that my brother has a dent [at] the side of his head [due] to a blunt object [striking] his head [in] his last fight. No glove or fist was able to cause the damage according to the autopsy. My daddy once told me if you pull a gun out on somebody, you better kill them. Because if you don’t, they are gonna come back and kill you. The king is about to rise again. We [are] coming for blood," Marsellos Wilder stated.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-vows-end-wilder-career-claim-loaded-gloves--149855

I doubt that those allegations are true though, there are a lot of people including boxing bodies representatives and even the WBC President said that he is present in both in the dressing room. So I don't know where the hell did Marsellos Wilder got this idea.

This another b_s excuse on the Wilder camp on why their guy lost the fight. I think, after that Margarito incident, boxing bodies are very strict on inspecting gloves to prevent another such incident. I read an article that Fury is more motivated to end the career of Wilder after knowing that baseless allegation. Bad for Wilder?

Why can't they just accept the result and focus on the next fight?
Wilder almost lose in the first fight, so there is no reason for people to believe that Fury has to cheat or cheating since some of them are even convince that it was Fury who won in the first fight. Another excuse from him, maybe the end of his career is near.  Smiley

I just re-watched the second fight, Fury was really the bigger fighter and that is the reason why there is so much power in his both hands. Maybe the team or at least the brother can't accept the result because the older Wilder has no answer to the Gypsy King.

And I also doubt that a high level fight like this will just let go of the boxing commission if there are doubts or question about his wrap or gloves.

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July 03, 2020, 02:44:00 AM
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So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income  Smiley. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905
Kinda expected though that this fight will be rescheduled because of what is happening in US right now Cheesy.

Lets just hope that at that time, a vaccine has been made although the minimum time frame for a new vaccine to be created is around 12-18 months so there is still a bit chance that a vaccine can't be created by December. Hoping to have a new virus by December although I'm not expecting Cheesy.

I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.

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July 03, 2020, 03:33:05 AM
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So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income  Smiley. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905
Kinda expected though that this fight will be rescheduled because of what is happening in US right now Cheesy.

Lets just hope that at that time, a vaccine has been made although the minimum time frame for a new vaccine to be created is around 12-18 months so there is still a bit chance that a vaccine can't be created by December. Hoping to have a new virus by December although I'm not expecting Cheesy.

I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.

Probably the vaccine will came from EU or US, I reckon. Anyways, I'm optimistic that in the next quarter, at least a potential vaccine could be developed so that everything will be back to normal. As far as the fight goes, it's the most anticipated fight, and lets hope that a fight could be made at the end of the year or early 2021.

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July 03, 2020, 09:52:22 AM
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An article pops up accusing Fury of loading his gloves, this is according to Wilder's brother.

Fury Vows To End Wilder's Career After Claim of Loaded Gloves

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In a recent social media post, Marsellos Wilder, the younger brother of former heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder, made a sensational claim that Tyson Fury may have loaded his gloves for the rematch with Deontay back in February.

“You know it’s crazy when you [are] great. They gotta do everything that is underneath real to figure out how to stop you. And the most wicked sh-t about [it] is- people on your own team will do anything for the hate [or] money to help [the opponents] take you down. It was discovered by doctors that my brother has a dent [at] the side of his head [due] to a blunt object [striking] his head [in] his last fight. No glove or fist was able to cause the damage according to the autopsy. My daddy once told me if you pull a gun out on somebody, you better kill them. Because if you don’t, they are gonna come back and kill you. The king is about to rise again. We [are] coming for blood," Marsellos Wilder stated.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-vows-end-wilder-career-claim-loaded-gloves--149855

I doubt that those allegations are true though, there are a lot of people including boxing bodies representatives and even the WBC President said that he is present in both in the dressing room. So I don't know where the hell did Marsellos Wilder got this idea.

Just more butthurt excuses from Wilder's camp. Do you really think he could get away with something like this in such a high profile fight. Their gloves are checked multiple times and an official watches them being put on. I'm sure Wilder would have felt something wrong and said so during the fight if there was something in Fury's gloves.

So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income  Smiley. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905

I'm not sure it's official yet. They just said that they'd 'reserved' the venue for then. Doesn't mean it will happen for sure. It probably depends on how the pandemic is by then. Most places are easing lock-downs but some places are seeing more cases and a packed, sweaty arena probably isn't the best place to be given the circumstances.

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July 03, 2020, 10:18:33 AM
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So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income  Smiley. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905
Kinda expected though that this fight will be rescheduled because of what is happening in US right now Cheesy.

Lets just hope that at that time, a vaccine has been made although the minimum time frame for a new vaccine to be created is around 12-18 months so there is still a bit chance that a vaccine can't be created by December. Hoping to have a new virus by December although I'm not expecting Cheesy.

I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.

Probably the vaccine will came from EU or US, I reckon. Anyways, I'm optimistic that in the next quarter, at least a potential vaccine could be developed so that everything will be back to normal. As far as the fight goes, it's the most anticipated fight, and lets hope that a fight could be made at the end of the year or early 2021.

I don't think the vaccine will be produce this year, most of the news or reports I read online saying that the vaccine is expected to be available early next year, and also I haven't read any news  a certain country guarantees a vaccine release this year, even Trump did not promise this year.

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July 03, 2020, 10:29:57 AM
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No real vaccine has ever been made for any coronavirus including the common cold therefore I am not convinced they will find a vaccine for COVID-19

I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.

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July 03, 2020, 01:00:12 PM
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If this would happen then probably the new normal now is going to be our normal forever?
Some countries have claim that they already found the vaccine, just waiting for it to be fully tested before they will release it, so they are lying to us?

I really hope not man although it's hard to say what they think but this is for everyone and to get back our freedom as walking down the streets wearing mask is not fun at all, and we are limited with what we can do because of the virus.

No real vaccine has ever been made for any coronavirus including the common cold therefore I am not convinced they will find a vaccine for COVID-19

I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.
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July 03, 2020, 05:56:25 PM
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58 votes in the poll so far

47 vote for Fury
10 votes for Wilder
1 vote for a Draw


Regardless of when the fight takes place this thread has seen a lot of activity with members expressing their views  Wink


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Last edit: July 03, 2020, 07:42:34 PM by finaleshot2016
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So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income  Smiley. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905
Kinda expected though that this fight will be rescheduled because of what is happening in US right now Cheesy.

Lets just hope that at that time, a vaccine has been made although the minimum time frame for a new vaccine to be created is around 12-18 months so there is still a bit chance that a vaccine can't be created by December. Hoping to have a new virus by December although I'm not expecting Cheesy.

I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.

Probably the vaccine will came from EU or US, I reckon. Anyways, I'm optimistic that in the next quarter, at least a potential vaccine could be developed so that everything will be back to normal. As far as the fight goes, it's the most anticipated fight, and lets hope that a fight could be made at the end of the year or early 2021.

I don't think the vaccine will be produce this year, most of the news or reports I read online saying that the vaccine is expected to be available early next year, and also I haven't read any news  a certain country guarantees a vaccine release this year, even Trump did not promise this year.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/05/trump-says-us-has-2-million-coronavirus-vaccine-does-ready-to-go.html
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U.S. officials and scientists are hopeful a vaccine to prevent Covid-19 will be ready in the first half of 2021.
The current pandemic is a very dangerous virus, it really requires a lot of time before it will be developed.

So maybe Q1 or Q2 next year, there's a possibility that they will produce a vaccine for us to be COVID-free. Meanwhile, in China, there are vaccine trials happening right now and I hope it's the solution for this pandemic so we can continue the sports event like Fury vs Wilder III that has postponed recently.

https://fortune.com/2020/07/02/china-covid-vaccine-cansino/
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July 03, 2020, 11:35:11 PM
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The current pandemic is a very dangerous virus, it really requires a lot of time before it will be developed.

So maybe Q1 or Q2 next year, there's a possibility that they will produce a vaccine for us to be COVID-free. Meanwhile, in China, there are vaccine trials happening right now and I hope it's the solution for this pandemic so we can continue the sports event like Fury vs Wilder III that has postponed recently.
The vaccine trails might take a long time and the fight is targeted on December 19 and the promoters might not carry on with the fight if the audience are not allowed as they do not want to let go off millions of dollars in live gate and they are vocal about it.
Every country is trying to develop some kind of vaccine and hopefully we will see a finished product by a years time.
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July 04, 2020, 06:33:27 AM
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We live in such an unpredictable moment that only as time passes and the virus is controlled, we can know with certainty what will happen with the sporting events that are in the 2020 calendar.

I have read in this article that the vaccine that Pfizer is developing has given positive results in the evaluation of 45 people.
The coronavirus is shown differently in each person, making it difficult to find the cure as soon as possible.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/01/pfizer-stock-jumps-after-it-reports-positive-data-in-early-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial.html

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July 04, 2020, 06:50:21 AM
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We live in such an unpredictable moment that only as time passes and the virus is controlled, we can know with certainty what will happen with the sporting events that are in the 2020 calendar.
The sporting event will continue as schedule, the government have the experts and they know how worst this problem is but it will be worse for all of us if we stop living because we can't stop the corona virus. Please also understand that though the virus is very dangerous but there are a lot of people who got cured from the virus, so it's not really something that should stop us.

I have read in this article that the vaccine that Pfizer is developing has given positive results in the evaluation of 45 people.
The coronavirus is shown differently in each person, making it difficult to find the cure as soon as possible.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/01/pfizer-stock-jumps-after-it-reports-positive-data-in-early-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial.html

That's a bad news but for sure they will not stop searching until they find the real solution or the cure to the virus, and in fact it's not only Pfizer who is working in finding the cure, it's the whole world, so be optimistic and we will hear some good news in time.

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July 04, 2020, 07:23:43 AM
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The current pandemic is a very dangerous virus, it really requires a lot of time before it will be developed.

So maybe Q1 or Q2 next year, there's a possibility that they will produce a vaccine for us to be COVID-free. Meanwhile, in China, there are vaccine trials happening right now and I hope it's the solution for this pandemic so we can continue the sports event like Fury vs Wilder III that has postponed recently.
The vaccine trails might take a long time and the fight is targeted on December 19 and the promoters might not carry on with the fight if the audience are not allowed as they do not want to let go off millions of dollars in live gate and they are vocal about it.
Every country is trying to develop some kind of vaccine and hopefully we will see a finished product by a years time.

They don't actually need to rush this fight, wait for the right timing then make the fight happen.

We know that it was suppose to be scheduled this year, and actually it's possible to make this happen if they are not targeting for bigger revenue, but promoter bob are clear they want to make more money from this fight, so no vaccine this year, there will be no fight this year.

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There has never ever been a cure for any coronavirus including the common flu so why do people think there will be a cure developed for COVID-19?

The current pandemic is a very dangerous virus, it really requires a lot of time before it will be developed.

So maybe Q1 or Q2 next year, there's a possibility that they will produce a vaccine for us to be COVID-free. Meanwhile, in China, there are vaccine trials happening right now and I hope it's the solution for this pandemic so we can continue the sports event like Fury vs Wilder III that has postponed recently.

https://fortune.com/2020/07/02/china-covid-vaccine-cansino/

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July 04, 2020, 10:48:51 AM
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There has never ever been a cure for any coronavirus including the common flu so why do people think there will be a cure developed for COVID-19?

The current pandemic is a very dangerous virus, it really requires a lot of time before it will be developed.

So maybe Q1 or Q2 next year, there's a possibility that they will produce a vaccine for us to be COVID-free. Meanwhile, in China, there are vaccine trials happening right now and I hope it's the solution for this pandemic so we can continue the sports event like Fury vs Wilder III that has postponed recently.

https://fortune.com/2020/07/02/china-covid-vaccine-cansino/

Rushing out a vaccine would probably do more harm than good. A vaccine probably won't even be needed for most people, especially the young and healthy. Most people only get mild symptoms anyway and it has a very low mortality rate.

No real vaccine has ever been made for any coronavirus including the common cold therefore I am not convinced they will find a vaccine for COVID-19

I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.

It's more akin to a flu than a cold, and of course we have a flu vaccine. It's only really given to the elderly though.

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July 07, 2020, 12:46:36 PM
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About the rumor that Wilder will step aside on the trilogy fight against Fury and will just take money instead, this is not true, the fight is one.

Here's the latest news about that, so no more rumors.

EXCLUSIVE: Deontay Wilder NOT pulling out, Tyson Fury trilogy is ON!





Interesting news also.

Mike Tyson Tells Deontay Wilder To “Grow Up”

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By Allan Fox: Mike Tyson doesn’t like the way that former heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder appears to have given up on himself following his loss to Tyson Fury five months ago in February.

‘Iron Mike’ feels that Wilder (42-1-1, 41 KOs) can come back from this defeat and potentially beat Fury if he dedicates his life to getting the victory in their trilogy match.

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July 07, 2020, 12:57:26 PM
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~snip~

Wilder must have gone through terrible depression days after losing miserably for the first time in his professional career. But he must face it like a tough man. He is a fighter and he shouldn't be crying all the time because he once lost. He should have learned the lessons and moved on. Or has he got a big spoiled ego that after spewing alibis and excuses, he would eventually quit?

If he does that, he definitely needs some spanking from old mike.
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July 07, 2020, 01:14:56 PM
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This is interesting! despite what we are going through today, they can still give us some extraordinary matches such as this. I'm looking forward to seeing this match. You never see this kind of fight every year, the two known heavyweight fighters will return to the ring in their 3rd re-match. I'm rooting for them I don't care who will win because this might be their last fight. they need to give it all they've got in this fight.
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July 07, 2020, 01:26:09 PM
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This is interesting! despite what we are going through today, they can still give us some extraordinary matches such as this. I'm looking forward to seeing this match. You never see this kind of fight every year, the two known heavyweight fighters will return to the ring in their 3rd re-match.
It's a good news to know that this fight will push through, but we can't be too excited as it seems like not gonna happen this read.
I read an article that the promoter wants more money, so under the current situation it's not possible as bigger money are coming from the gate entrance.
My best estimate is this fight will happen next year or when the vaccine arrives, whichever comes first.


I'm rooting for them I don't care who will win because this might be their last fight. they need to give it all they've got in this fight.
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July 07, 2020, 02:07:14 PM
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About the rumor that Wilder will step aside on the trilogy fight against Fury and will just take money instead, this is not true, the fight is one.
The reason Wilder took the third fight is because his ego is not accepting the defeat and even though there were talks about paying him off it was evident his ego will not allow that to happen and he was even questioning the legacy of Mike Tyson in the past few months about the top fighters he faced during his career.

It's a good news to know that this fight will push through, but we can't be too excited as it seems like not gonna happen this read.
I read an article that the promoter wants more money, so under the current situation it's not possible as bigger money are coming from the gate entrance.
My best estimate is this fight will happen next year or when the vaccine arrives, whichever comes first.
The fight will happen but we are no way on the verge of producing any vaccine and it is a long distant dream and we have to expect that the virus will die off eventually after one year, but the question is, is it that simple to be optimistic about it, the number of cases are surging on and off and we are forced to live with that situation and for the promoters to expect to have a full audience within an year is optimistic but if we have a better testing kit then they can test everyone and that will be the game changer than expecting a vaccine .
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