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“I’m coming for Wilder first, then I'm going to come for Joshua. Then I'm gonna come for whoever else wants the smoke. You're all getting annihilated, every single one of you. Ain't no stopping us now. Anyone who does will get smashed to bits, terminated, plowed over like a stone in the road. I’m getting better with age, like a fine wine," Fury said, according to The Mirror. But according to Joshua: “I wonder what people see in Fury that is so intimidating that he can’t be touched? Wladimir Klitschko was his first real challenge and he won that. That took him eight years to get there – from the amateurs to there. Then he had years out and fought Wilder," Joshua said.
“But he has not been in the deep end to prove that he can swim there for a long time, you don’t just come there once or twice, you have to do it repeatedly against championship level fighters, that is how you gain my respect.” https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-vows-annihilate-deontay-wilder-then-anthony-joshua--150530I do agree that Fury is somewhat above the two right now and could do the proverbial, "walk the talk". And I think Joshua is wrong here, Fury was knock down by Wilder in the first fight, and we didn't think that he can get up from down devastating punch he took from Wilder, so that alone show how Fury can react to any situation and bounce back.
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“I’m coming for Wilder first, then I'm going to come for Joshua. Then I'm gonna come for whoever else wants the smoke. You're all getting annihilated, every single one of you. Ain't no stopping us now. Anyone who does will get smashed to bits, terminated, plowed over like a stone in the road. I’m getting better with age, like a fine wine," Fury said, according to The Mirror. But according to Joshua: “I wonder what people see in Fury that is so intimidating that he can’t be touched? Wladimir Klitschko was his first real challenge and he won that. That took him eight years to get there – from the amateurs to there. Then he had years out and fought Wilder," Joshua said.
“But he has not been in the deep end to prove that he can swim there for a long time, you don’t just come there once or twice, you have to do it repeatedly against championship level fighters, that is how you gain my respect.” https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-vows-annihilate-deontay-wilder-then-anthony-joshua--150530I do agree that Fury is somewhat above the two right now and could do the proverbial, "walk the talk". And I think Joshua is wrong here, Fury was knock down by Wilder in the first fight, and we didn't think that he can get up from down devastating punch he took from Wilder, so that alone show how Fury can react to any situation and bounce back. If Fury will beat both fighters, I think the next big fight I like to see is the Joshua vs Wilder, and I swear, I will bet on Wilder to win this much and this might the time that I could see a KO win from either any, but like I said, I would bet on Wilder to win, this should be an interesting fight also IMO.
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“I’m coming for Wilder first, then I'm going to come for Joshua. Then I'm gonna come for whoever else wants the smoke. You're all getting annihilated, every single one of you. Ain't no stopping us now. Anyone who does will get smashed to bits, terminated, plowed over like a stone in the road. I’m getting better with age, like a fine wine," Fury said, according to The Mirror. But according to Joshua: “I wonder what people see in Fury that is so intimidating that he can’t be touched? Wladimir Klitschko was his first real challenge and he won that. That took him eight years to get there – from the amateurs to there. Then he had years out and fought Wilder," Joshua said.
“But he has not been in the deep end to prove that he can swim there for a long time, you don’t just come there once or twice, you have to do it repeatedly against championship level fighters, that is how you gain my respect.” https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-vows-annihilate-deontay-wilder-then-anthony-joshua--150530I do agree that Fury is somewhat above the two right now and could do the proverbial, "walk the talk". And I think Joshua is wrong here, Fury was knock down by Wilder in the first fight, and we didn't think that he can get up from down devastating punch he took from Wilder, so that alone show how Fury can react to any situation and bounce back. If Fury will beat both fighters, I think the next big fight I like to see is the Joshua vs Wilder, and I swear, I will bet on Wilder to win this much and this might the time that I could see a KO win from either any, but like I said, I would bet on Wilder to win, this should be an interesting fight also IMO. I believed that Fury can beat both Wilder and Joshua. We have witnessed that Joshua can really be outbox and we all know Fury is very technical boxer, and with his height and reach advantage it will be very difficult for Joshua to get inside because Fury will pot shot him all day long, LOL. And if this fight happen, it will be another big payday for both, All British fight. And with that said, I also disagree with Joshua here, Fury is the better boxer maybe he didn't see something special about Fury for now, but when they meet it will be very different story.
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They are both good fighters, but Fury is better than Wilder. The only person who can beat Fury is himself (as with the downward spiral he went into after beating Klitschko) - it's all down to his attitude and motivation, but I think we can assume he'll be sufficiently motivated for the 3rd Wilder fight. The first fight was an aberration and Fury was still on the comeback trail, the second fight was I think more representative of their abilities and was very one-sided. I can't see Wilder winning.
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July 31, 2020, 12:43:49 PM |
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65 votes in the poll so far
51 vote for Fury 13 votes for Wilder 1 vote for a Draw
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I believed that Fury can beat both Wilder and Joshua. We have witnessed that Joshua can really be outbox and we all know Fury is very technical boxer, and with his height and reach advantage it will be very difficult for Joshua to get inside because Fury will pot shot him all day long, LOL.
I agree with you on that, if I will rank these 3 fighters, I would rank (1) Fury (2) Wilder (3) Joshua, no disrespect to him as he is also a champion.. And if this fight happen, it will be another big payday for both, All British fight.
And with that said, I also disagree with Joshua here, Fury is the better boxer maybe he didn't see something special about Fury for now, but when they meet it will be very different story.
They are aiming for the Joshua vs Fury fight, expected to make a history, but both have to finish their current business with their respective opponent first. Fury had a tougher fight as Wilder had chance to get his injury healed and train more.
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I think it will be very awkward for boxers to fight in a ring without any spectators, it will be like a training gym for them without atmosphere. I wonder how long the coronavirus status quo implemented by governments will continue before they go for the herd immunity option, that way football stadiums and all sporting events will be full again and life will begin getting back to pre-coronavirus days.
Without a doubt it will be different but I suppose that once they begin to receive punches for real they will switch into fighter mode really quickly. I suppose governments have not switched to try the herd immunity option because according to their models even if the mortality rate is low now this could increase significantly if the healthcare system got saturated and people were not able to get the necessary healthcare attention to save their lives, so we have no option but to wait for the vaccine.
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If Fury will beat both fighters, I think the next big fight I like to see is the Joshua vs Wilder, and I swear, I will bet on Wilder to win this much and this might the time that I could see a KO win from either any, but like I said, I would bet on Wilder to win, this should be an interesting fight also IMO. I am confident that Tyson Fury will win against Wilder and Joshua and rather than these fighters going for direct rubber matches it would be fun if they fight other top contenders and i would love to see Joshua and Wilder and it would be a completely different fight and Wilder could defeat Joshua, the problem with Fury is that he is too technical and styles makes fights but against Joshua we could see the old Wilder power.
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I believed that Fury can beat both Wilder and Joshua. We have witnessed that Joshua can really be outbox and we all know Fury is very technical boxer, and with his height and reach advantage it will be very difficult for Joshua to get inside because Fury will pot shot him all day long, LOL.
I agree with you on that, if I will rank these 3 fighters, I would rank (1) Fury (2) Wilder (3) Joshua, no disrespect to him as he is also a champion.. And if this fight happen, it will be another big payday for both, All British fight.
And with that said, I also disagree with Joshua here, Fury is the better boxer maybe he didn't see something special about Fury for now, but when they meet it will be very different story.
They are aiming for the Joshua vs Fury fight, expected to make a history, but both have to finish their current business with their respective opponent first. Fury had a tougher fight as Wilder had chance to get his injury healed and train more. They would settle first their unfinished business before considering on fighting which is already on the line.Im very much hype if Fury and Joshua would really have a fight. For Wilder, its sure that he had really an ample time to recover his injury and i believe that he had already prepared for this upcoming fight.He already had the idea on how Fury moves but the question is, would he able to apply on what strategic plans that he had in mind? Fury would surely be unpredictable.
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I believed that Fury can beat both Wilder and Joshua. We have witnessed that Joshua can really be outbox and we all know Fury is very technical boxer, and with his height and reach advantage it will be very difficult for Joshua to get inside because Fury will pot shot him all day long, LOL.
I agree with you on that, if I will rank these 3 fighters, I would rank (1) Fury (2) Wilder (3) Joshua, no disrespect to him as he is also a champion.. And if this fight happen, it will be another big payday for both, All British fight.
And with that said, I also disagree with Joshua here, Fury is the better boxer maybe he didn't see something special about Fury for now, but when they meet it will be very different story.
They are aiming for the Joshua vs Fury fight, expected to make a history, but both have to finish their current business with their respective opponent first. Fury had a tougher fight as Wilder had chance to get his injury healed and train more. They would settle first their unfinished business before considering on fighting which is already on the line.Im very much hype if Fury and Joshua would really have a fight. Of course, and this 3rd fight is going to be the last fight and will be the biggest fight in terms of revenue if done with a crowd, but if not, then they can't expect big money as PPV alone is not enough for them to satisfy. For Wilder, its sure that he had really an ample time to recover his injury and i believe that he had already prepared for this upcoming fight.
He will be fully recovered when they face for sure, covid-19 give him a lot of time to recover and get back on shape, and he will sure prepare harder for a possible last fight with Fury. He already had the idea on how Fury moves but the question is, would he able to apply on what strategic plans that he had in mind? Fury would surely be unpredictable.
It's not the first time they will meet, remember this is the 3rd time, so he sure have studied Fury's move many times, but Fury on the other hand are also doing the same, so it there will be no big surprises in this fight for sure.
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I agree, I think on a technical basis Fury is a better boxer that Wilder. Fury was not 100% back to his best as it was his return-to-the-ring process but there was no way Wilder managed to draw that fight, it was clear for me apolitical decision because Fury was the winner. In the second fight Fury was back to his best, a total dominating beast that slowly broke down Wilder and knocked him down several times before finishing him off. As for the third fight whenever it happens I think Fury will be just as dominant. Wilder will probably think about using his powerful right hand to catch Fury and not think about it going to a points decision but Fury will go in to the ring with all options and outcomes on the table. I cannot see it going to a points decision, I think Fury should knock out Wilder within six rounds. They are both good fighters, but Fury is better than Wilder. The only person who can beat Fury is himself (as with the downward spiral he went into after beating Klitschko) - it's all down to his attitude and motivation, but I think we can assume he'll be sufficiently motivated for the 3rd Wilder fight. The first fight was an aberration and Fury was still on the comeback trail, the second fight was I think more representative of their abilities and was very one-sided. I can't see Wilder winning.
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If Fury will beat both fighters, I think the next big fight I like to see is the Joshua vs Wilder, and I swear, I will bet on Wilder to win this much and this might the time that I could see a KO win from either any, but like I said, I would bet on Wilder to win, this should be an interesting fight also IMO. I am confident that Tyson Fury will win against Wilder and Joshua and rather than these fighters going for direct rubber matches it would be fun if they fight other top contenders and i would love to see Joshua and Wilder and it would be a completely different fight and Wilder could defeat Joshua, the problem with Fury is that he is too technical and styles makes fights but against Joshua we could see the old Wilder power. One of the things that makes Fury so good is that he does not really fight as a heavyweight, the way he moves and throws punches reminds me of a boxer from a lower weight division, as such most of his opponents do not know how to react to that as they have never seen anyone moving like that and when you add his reach, weight and height it seems almost impossible for the current generation of fighters to beat him, at this point in time the only one that can beat Fury is himself but it seems he has at least regained enough strength to face his inner demons.
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So it seems 19th December 2020 is the date Bob Arum (promoter for Fury) has been mentioning regularly to take place at the Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas. If no fans will be allowed to watch the bout then a minimum of $15 million in ticket sales will be lost so it is vital fans will be allowed in to the arena otherwise Pay Per View fans watching at home will have to pay increased amounts to make up for the shortfall. TALKSPORT: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/757939/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-stadium/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalksport.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F5%2F2020%2F02%2FNINTCHDBPICT000565292809-e1582797350289.jpg%3Fstrip%3Dall%26w%3D960%26quality%3D100&t=665&c=2EXVs6CA45aYSQ)
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If no fans will be allowed to watch the bout then a minimum of $15 million in ticket sales will be lost so it is vital fans will be allowed in to the arena otherwise Pay Per View fans watching at home will have to pay increased amounts to make up for the shortfall.
If the price is affordable I think they can get it sold to the fans, they might not have the gate entrance but there's a lot of fans now that would still watch online so PPV will increase compared to the regular situation where gate entrance are allowed. Promoter should carefully evaluate this fight, it's a big fight hence it deserves a big pay. If they love the fans then they will make it happen at per scheduled date but if they love their pockets, they can postponed it again, for the 2nd time. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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There is no further news on what date it might land if they could settle with a limited audience then it may continue on Dec. 19 or it might carry on to another location outside the US and it may become the 1st week of February 2021,
If they couldn't meet that revenue they how can they pay the fighters and if both fighters would conclude on the financial terms then this fight will surely continue,
And what about the rumors of Tyson Fury tampering his glove before the fight? this issue might be answered by Fury himself but if proven to be guilty then his fight with Wilder will become a No-Contest but further investigation might need before it is proven.
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65 votes in the poll so far
51 vote for Fury 13 votes for Wilder 1 vote for a Draw
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September 11, 2020, 04:04:18 PM |
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So it seems 19th December 2020 is the date Bob Arum (promoter for Fury) has been mentioning regularly to take place at the Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas. If no fans will be allowed to watch the bout then a minimum of $15 million in ticket sales will be lost so it is vital fans will be allowed in to the arena otherwise Pay Per View fans watching at home will have to pay increased amounts to make up for the shortfall.
At least we will be able to see this match in december even without the fans/crowd. This fight was initially to be scheduled at 18 July but it was postponed due to covid 19. I hope we get to see this match within this year. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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If they market the fight correctly and maximise all revenue options then they will easily make enough for all parties involved to have big pay days and that goes for both boxers, their managers and the promoters. Having fans in the arena should positively affect both boxers, I wonder how it would feel having that fight in an empty stadium. If no fans will be allowed to watch the bout then a minimum of $15 million in ticket sales will be lost so it is vital fans will be allowed in to the arena otherwise Pay Per View fans watching at home will have to pay increased amounts to make up for the shortfall.
If the price is affordable I think they can get it sold to the fans, they might not have the gate entrance but there's a lot of fans now that would still watch online so PPV will increase compared to the regular situation where gate entrance are allowed. Promoter should carefully evaluate this fight, it's a big fight hence it deserves a big pay. If they love the fans then they will make it happen at per scheduled date but if they love their pockets, they can postponed it again, for the 2nd time. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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So it seems 19th December 2020 is the date Bob Arum (promoter for Fury) has been mentioning regularly to take place at the Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas. If no fans will be allowed to watch the bout then a minimum of $15 million in ticket sales will be lost so it is vital fans will be allowed in to the arena otherwise Pay Per View fans watching at home will have to pay increased amounts to make up for the shortfall.
At least we will be able to see this match in december even without the fans/crowd. This fight was initially to be scheduled at 18 July but it was postponed due to covid 19. I hope we get to see this match within this year. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There's plenty of time, if they start selling that PPV now, then maybe they could generate enough funds for the coming fight to satisfy both parties. Anyone knows if they are already selling the PPV online ticket? As per revenue, it's possible as the biggest PPV sale in history goes to. 1: Floyd Mayweather v Manny Pacquiao — 4.6 million PPV buys https://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-best-selling-pay-per-view-events-boxing-ufc-wrestling-tv-history-2017-8#1-floyd-mayweather-v-manny-pacquiao-46-million-ppv-buys-55I just don't know how to convert that into USD.
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If they market the fight correctly and maximise all revenue options then they will easily make enough for all parties involved to have big pay days and that goes for both boxers, their managers and the promoters. Having fans in the arena should positively affect both boxers, I wonder how it would feel having that fight in an empty stadium.
We have already seen fights that do only have staffs and some personnel inside the stadium or venue and this event wont be different.It would really be having that the same vibe but look at on what happen on NBA where they do put up some virtual fans. They might be considering it up but to think this will be an add up expenses on a one time even unlike on a basketball game.So they would really be patching up all on ppv sales and hope it wont really be that much expensive for people to be able to look at.
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