[ BOXING POLL ADDED ]: Fury vs Wilder III - THE TRILOGY IS BACK ON !!!

[JollyGood]

I see no reason why Fury would want to fight Wilder again. In his eyes he just does not does see Wilder as someone he needs to fight again. The clause for the trilogy was triggered because Wilder wanted it but they could not agree terms. I think Fury genuinely believes that Wilder is mentally unwell and because he himself suffered from severe depression he just does not want anything at all to do with Wilder now.

[TravelMug]

https://twitter.com/MTKGlobal/status/1328041743808393219

So Fury will not be fighting for this year or next month, does it mean that they are waiting for the mediation/arbitration then?

And that a trilogy might be possible March 2021 again?

[yazher]

So Fury will not be fighting for this year or next month, does it mean that they are waiting for the mediation/arbitration then?

And that a trilogy might be possible March 2021 again?

Although I want to see the trilogy with Wilder, I don't think his next opponent is him because they are so many demands from Wilder's side. We just need to wait for the official announcement of his next fight and I'm sure it is a worthy opponent than Wilder. This man is a living legend he doesn't need to prove to anyone how strong he is as he already proves it in their last two matches.

[Maslate]

This man is a living legend he doesn't need to prove to anyone how strong he is as he already proves it in their last two matches.

Wilder is a legend also but he needs to prove he can beat Fury, why would he demand when the right is not him to demand. Fury is the champion, he can refuse Wilder's demand and look for another opponent, besides he is the cash cow now.

In terms of record, I like the record of Wilder but one lose against Fury changes that record mostly to the eyes of the fans.

[Jating]

So Fury will not be fighting for this year or next month, does it mean that they are waiting for the mediation/arbitration then?

And that a trilogy might be possible March 2021 again?

Although I want to see the trilogy with Wilder, I don't think his next opponent is him because they are so many demands from Wilder's side. We just need to wait for the official announcement of his next fight and I'm sure it is a worthy opponent than Wilder. This man is a living legend he doesn't need to prove to anyone how strong he is as he already proves it in their last two matches.

There could be many opponents, but are those better or at least in Wilder's league though? AJ is the most logical choice next, but what happens after that fight? No more challenges for Fury so it means no big pay check coming in. Have you heard of Agit Kabayel and Carlos Takam, the supposedly next opponent for him this coming December? (good that it didn't push through). So everyone will be tomato can opponents, that might hurt him in the long run, legacy wise.

So to cement his legacy further, he really needs to face Wilder once and for all and close the book and prove that he is the greatest Heavyweight of this generation or probably the best ever.

[hilariousetc]

I see no reason why Fury would want to fight Wilder again. In his eyes he just does not does see Wilder as someone he needs to fight again. The clause for the trilogy was triggered because Wilder wanted it but they could not agree terms. I think Fury genuinely believes that Wilder is mentally unwell and because he himself suffered from severe depression he just does not want anything at all to do with Wilder now.

He might not want it but if it's contractually obliged then he doesn't have a choice, which it was, but now it's up to arbitration to decide if it's still valid due to time elapsed. And Fury not wanting to fight him again just seems like braggadocio to me. There's still unfinished business as the first fight was a draw. I don't believe he thinks Wilder is mentally ill either. Wilder is a sore loser though coming out with all these bullshit excuses. He's probably just doing it to cause drama and interest to try get the third fight.

https://twitter.com/MTKGlobal/status/1328041743808393219

So Fury will not be fighting for this year or next month, does it mean that they are waiting for the mediation/arbitration then?

And that a trilogy might be possible March 2021 again?

He still might fight someone before any rematch but I'm sure he's waiting the decision of the courts first. Would be silly not to. He might not be allowed to fight anyone if the contract is in fact still valid.

[bonjouros]

If wilder can do something to avoid being KO again by Fury then this will be a good fight knowing that they are both good fighters but I am hesitant on  whom to favor in this upcoming match as I am pretty sure that Wilder will make sure to prepare well to avoid losing again to Fury.

If Wilder can use his experience against Fury then there is a chance that Wilder can win this fight, I would like to check the odds of this upcoming  fight as I think Fury will get a better odds knowing that he was able to KO Wilder in their latest fight.

[Baofeng]

In his latest round of excuses:

Deontay Wilder Claims Fury’s Fingernails Led To Ear Bleeding

In the latest leg of an unexpected PR blitz, Wilder doubled down on all the reasons – each one more fanciful than the next – on why he lost to Tyson fury in their ballyhooed rematch Last February, including the much-lampooned theory that Fury wore doctored gloves in that fight. The proof? According to Wilder, he has fingernail marks inside his ear.

“I haven’t yet heard valid proof of how gloves flap all the way back, why your hands were in the middle of the glove, why did my ear have scratches deep inside my ear? Because of your (Fury’s) nails,” Wilder (42-1-1, 41KOs) told Brian Custer on The Last Stand PodCast. “It’s so many different facts and proof that we have. But it just shows the greatness of it."

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-claims-furys-fingernails-led-ear-bleeding--153336

Lol, aptly called the  “Glove Gate” conspiracy theory. 

We really don't know what's going on with Wilder, now he blames Fury's nail for the scratch inside his ear. It's getting weirder by the day. I would suggest that people around Wilder advise him not to talk to the public and make another bold claim without proofs. Just hurting his legacy.

[BChydro]

If wilder can do something to avoid being KO again by Fury then this will be a good fight knowing that they are both good fighters but I am hesitant on  whom to favor in this upcoming match as I am pretty sure that Wilder will make sure to prepare well to avoid losing again to Fury.

Both are not good fighters, Wilder is a puncher and he only look to knock the head off Fury while Fury is a fighter who knows boxing and it is big difference .

If Wilder can use his experience against Fury then there is a chance that Wilder can win this fight, I would like to check the odds of this upcoming  fight as I think Fury will get a better odds knowing that he was able to KO Wilder in their latest fight.

Wilder started boxing late in his life and Fury is a boxer from a very young age and the experience factor also favors Fury and not Wilder. Fury will be the favorite without a doubt if this fight ever happens.

[TravelMug]

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Lol, aptly called the  “Glove Gate” conspiracy theory. 

We really don't know what's going on with Wilder, now he blames Fury's nail for the scratch inside his ear. It's getting weirder by the day. I would suggest that people around Wilder advise him not to talk to the public and make another bold claim without proofs. Just hurting his legacy.

The guy really lost it, I mean how can Fury nails scratch the inside of his ear when the boxers hands are protected by gloves? Is someone advising Fury to make this excuses or this really came from him?

Why not just accept that he lost to the better man that night fair and square and redeem himself if ever their is a third fight?

There is a strict regulation as far as gloves is concern, so it's really hard to tamper it, Tyson Fury's Cutman Responds To Glove Tampering Conspiracy Theory.

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If wilder can do something to avoid being KO again by Fury then this will be a good fight knowing that they are both good fighters but I am hesitant on  whom to favor in this upcoming match as I am pretty sure that Wilder will make sure to prepare well to avoid losing again to Fury.

People seem to be forgetting Wilder was the first person to get a KO in the first fight. There's no reason why he couldn't do that again but both fighters will likely learn from their mistakes.

In his latest round of excuses:

Deontay Wilder Claims Fury’s Fingernails Led To Ear Bleeding

In the latest leg of an unexpected PR blitz, Wilder doubled down on all the reasons – each one more fanciful than the next – on why he lost to Tyson fury in their ballyhooed rematch Last February, including the much-lampooned theory that Fury wore doctored gloves in that fight. The proof? According to Wilder, he has fingernail marks inside his ear.

“I haven’t yet heard valid proof of how gloves flap all the way back, why your hands were in the middle of the glove, why did my ear have scratches deep inside my ear? Because of your (Fury’s) nails,” Wilder (42-1-1, 41KOs) told Brian Custer on The Last Stand PodCast. “It’s so many different facts and proof that we have. But it just shows the greatness of it."

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-claims-furys-fingernails-led-ear-bleeding--153336

Lol, aptly called the  “Glove Gate” conspiracy theory. 

We really don't know what's going on with Wilder, now he blames Fury's nail for the scratch inside his ear. It's getting weirder by the day. I would suggest that people around Wilder advise him not to talk to the public and make another bold claim without proofs. Just hurting his legacy.

Wilder just needs to shut up and stop being so pathetic with all these bs excuses. How can fingernails perforate a boxing glove far enough to go down someones ear canal? People get cut in boxing but there's no way it could have been due to Tyson's fingernails unless his gloves were damaged and I've seen no evidence of that.

https://boxingjunkie.usatoday.com/2020/11/bob-arum-tyson-fury-will-fight-joshua-or-wilder-depending-on-dec-12-bout

Bob Arum, Tyson Fury’s co-promoter, said his fighter’s immediate future isn’t complicated.

If Kubrat Pulev, who is also handled by Arum, beats Anthony Joshua on Dec. 12, then Fury will face Deontay Wilder a third time probably in late February. If Joshua defeats Pulev, then Fury will face Joshua in an all-England showdown around the same time.

Deontay Wilder Reveals Five-Man Shortlist For Next Fight Amid Tyson Fury Trilogy Dispute:

https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/news-ex-wbc-champ-deontay-wilder-reveals-five-man-shortlist-for-next-fight-20201118

When asked about a potential next opponent, the 'Bronze Bomber' told Brian Custer's Last Stand Podcast: "Realistically, Dillian Whyte would be on the list, Andy Ruiz Jr would be one on the list, Robert Helenius, Joseph Parker.

"Oleksandr Usyk, I would love to fight him because he called me out. There's a lot of guys on the list. When that phone rings just accept the opportunity."

[JollyGood]

I wonder what the effect on the well-being of both fighters will be if the whole drama does escalate to a new level and end up in court. Rather than have a long drawn out legal battle via lawyers it would be far better for them to avoid it and have a fight in the ring instead.

Whichever legal firm represents them in court will end up getting a huge pay day and they might be the only real winners of any dispute.

I see no reason why Fury would want to fight Wilder again. In his eyes he just does not does see Wilder as someone he needs to fight again. The clause for the trilogy was triggered because Wilder wanted it but they could not agree terms. I think Fury genuinely believes that Wilder is mentally unwell and because he himself suffered from severe depression he just does not want anything at all to do with Wilder now.

He might not want it but if it's contractually obliged then he doesn't have a choice, which it was, but now it's up to arbitration to decide if it's still valid due to time elapsed. And Fury not wanting to fight him again just seems like braggadocio to me. There's still unfinished business as the first fight was a draw. I don't believe he thinks Wilder is mentally ill either. Wilder is a sore loser though coming out with all these bullshit excuses. He's probably just doing it to cause drama and interest to try get the third fight.

https://twitter.com/MTKGlobal/status/1328041743808393219

So Fury will not be fighting for this year or next month, does it mean that they are waiting for the mediation/arbitration then?

And that a trilogy might be possible March 2021 again?

He still might fight someone before any rematch but I'm sure he's waiting the decision of the courts first. Would be silly not to. He might not be allowed to fight anyone if the contract is in fact still valid.

[hilariousetc]

I wonder what the effect on the well-being of both fighters will be if the whole drama does escalate to a new level and end up in court. Rather than have a long drawn out legal battle via lawyers it would be far better for them to avoid it and have a fight in the ring instead.

Whichever legal firm represents them in court will end up getting a huge pay day and they might be the only real winners of any dispute.

I very much doubt it will be a long drawn out legal battle. The arbitration process will likely either state the contract is valid or null and the fighters will accept that and I believe the decision is to be expected this month. Maybe either party could appeal the decision but if it's in favour of Wilder with the rematch then Fury will likely just accept it. He might make out like he doesn't really want to rematch Wilder but whether that's true or not it's likely going to be his biggest payday outside of the AJ fights so it's win-win for him. Maybe if Wilder loses the appeal he will take it further and appeal that as he won't want to lose the opportunity to lose his belts without a fight but my guess is he'll just move on.

[Baofeng]

I wonder what the effect on the well-being of both fighters will be if the whole drama does escalate to a new level and end up in court. Rather than have a long drawn out legal battle via lawyers it would be far better for them to avoid it and have a fight in the ring instead.

Whichever legal firm represents them in court will end up getting a huge pay day and they might be the only real winners of any dispute.

I very much doubt it will be a long drawn out legal battle. The arbitration process will likely either state the contract is valid or null and the fighters will accept that and I believe the decision is to be expected this month. Maybe either party could appeal the decision but if it's in favour of Wilder with the rematch then Fury will likely just accept it. He might make out like he doesn't really want to rematch Wilder but whether that's true or not it's likely going to be his biggest payday outside of the AJ fights so it's win-win for him. Maybe if Wilder loses the appeal he will take it further and appeal that as he won't want to lose the opportunity to lose his belts without a fight but my guess is he'll just move on.

Probably the end of this year, and if the arbitration goes on Wilder's side, then next year is the fight. If for unknown reasons, Fury doesn't want to go to a trilogy, then perhaps he would have to pay damages. We doesn't have the name of the mediator, it only says retired judge at this point. So let's wait and see.

[Maslate]

Whichever legal firm represents them in court will end up getting a huge pay day and they might be the only real winners of any dispute.

You are correct with that statement, lawyers will already accept payment upon accepting the case and it will take time to determine who will win the case and it's both expenses on their side, never seen this before actually but I hope they'll realize that instead of making money as what they usually do, they are the one here spending money for the lawyers.

[JollyGood]

73 votes in the poll so far

59 vote for Fury
13 votes for Wilder
1 vote for a Draw

Well the fight is obviously not taking place unless some sort of legal judgement forces Fury to enter the ring with Wilder for the trilogy because according to Fury the time period that the third fight was supposed to be agreed within has elapsed but if it were to go ahead the overwhelming favourite according to those in this forum that voted (80%) are saying that Fury would win.

Here is a piece in the bbc sports website in which Fury makes it clear he will not give Wilder the time of day again: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/54914264

[Natalim]

I think this is a good news, people are not really looking for the trilogy, instead they look to see Fury fight AJ, so after AJ's fight against Kubrat Pulev, hopefully he will win, the Fury vs Joshua will be the biggest fight next year, hopefully Fury's side will win if there will be a case so Wilder will learned his lessons and accept his current state now, and not to make excuses.

[hilariousetc]

Well the fight is obviously not taking place unless some sort of legal judgement forces Fury to enter the ring with Wilder for the trilogy because according to Fury the time period that the third fight was supposed to be agreed within has elapsed but if it were to go ahead the overwhelming favourite according to those in this forum that voted (80%) are saying that Fury would win.

Here is a piece in the bbc sports website in which Fury makes it clear he will not give Wilder the time of day again: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/54914264

Why have you decided it's off? He might not want to fight him again and maybe considers the case closed and personally moved on but he might not have a choice depending on what the arbitration judge decides. If they rule in favour of Wilder and Fury declines then he could be stripped of his belt, which I'm sure he's not going to let the belts go.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/11/18/21572925/fury-vs-wilder-3-could-still-be-coming-2021-boxing-news-2020

Tyson Fury was looking to fight again on Dec. 5, likely against Agit Kabayel, but with Deontay Wilder forcing arbitration over a rematch clause, that idea is off, and Fury won’t return until next year.

Co-promoter Frank Warren confirms to ESPN that Fury is looking to fight again early in 2021, and that it may indeed have to be against Wilder:

    “Hopefully Tyson will fight again in the first quarter of 2021, and we don’t know yet if it will be against Wilder because of the arbitrary situation, we’re still waiting on the outcome of that. ... An arbitration judge will decide it. We say it [the rematch clause] is at an end, Wilder says it can be extended. If the judge rules that Wilder is right, then that’s what he [Fury] has to do. They will give us a decision soon, but we don’t know when.”

I've no idea what's going on with the court case though as there's been no word of it publicly in weeks. It's up to them at the end of the day unless Fury's camp appeals but he'd be stupid not to just take it. It'll be the biggest payday he'll be able to get outside of the AJ fights and that probably won't be happening for a while as AJ is fighting this weekend and if he loses then they'll be a rematch for that as well.

[JollyGood]

THE TRILOGY IS BACK ON !!!!





FURY vs WILDER III

24th JULY 2021

ALLEGIANT STADIUM, LAS VEGAS

Daily Mail Sports

It is all back on now thanks to what the Court of Arbitration has done after intervening. They have forced Fury to fight Wilder on 24th July 2021 so any hopes of seeing a Fury vs Joshua fight are over for now. Around the same time the WBO ordered Joshua to fight their No1 contender Usyk, the pair must agree terms by 31st May 2021 to make the fight happen.

[KTChampions]

Tyson Fury   - 59 (79.7%)
Deontay Wilder   - 14 (18.9%)
Draw   - 1 (1.4%)
Total Voters: 74

I see Fury is still the clear favorite in this pair, but a little less than in pair with Joshua's. In my opinion, this will be a confrontation with approximately equal chances - since after the second battle was strategically lost, Wilder's team will draw conclusions and change the battle strategy so that it looks more like their first fight.