[∞ YH] US/EU/AU solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 307 blocks solved!

[Nexus9090]

Congratulations, I think he is the first bitaxe to find a block. I hope Lucky miner LV06 finds one too

No, there's been other BitAxe's that have found blocks last year.

[little_worker]

I'm just chilling with my 15TH/s  BTC

https://ibb.co/j98cGQvr 

92W/Th!!???   

Must be an older miner perhaps?

OK if you've got free electric.

Sounds like s9/s9s it has similar consumption, so here I have a question what OS can be better so solo in this case, braiins os vs original one? Usability, updated packages in braiins it's clear for me, but for solo perspective maybe we have some statistic due to age of old antminers.

[newb789]

Hey -ck, could you please reply to post #5291.

[dugmaster]

I'm just chilling with my 15TH/s  BTC

https://ibb.co/j98cGQvr  

92W/Th!!???  

Must be an older miner perhaps?

OK if you've got free electric.

Yes, an Antminer S9, with the Brain OS Software

[dugmaster]

I'm just chilling with my 15TH/s  BTC

https://ibb.co/j98cGQvr  

92W/Th!!???  

Must be an older miner perhaps?

OK if you've got free electric.

Sounds like s9/s9s it has similar consumption, so here I have a question what OS can be better so solo in this case, braiins os vs original one? Usability, updated packages in braiins it's clear for me, but for solo perspective maybe we have some statistic due to age of old antminers.

A very good question, I would also be very interested. I've heard that the original software is always better for solo mining in the ckpool. The Brain OS software keeps 2.5% of the mining hashrate for itself. This 2.5% fee, if you want to call it that, has to be received by Brain OS somehow, so this hashrate has to be redirected to the Brain OS pool or retained directly. This means that the miner must always switch the software between the two pools, i.e. from ckpool to Brain OS. However, this switching should not be so good, it may have a negative effect on the luck of finding a block, because he always has to switch back and forth. That's how I remember it, that's how I heard it once. Whether this is really the case, I don't know 100%. Maybe ck can say something about it, or maybe someone else. Maybe someone knows this more precisely? It would also be very interesting for me to know.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Yes Braiins software takes 2.5% of your hashrate by periodically switching to what is called a DevFee pool and yes when it does you are not mining elsewhere. Stratum has an optional feature which can be enabled called Nsub that lets a miner seamlessly switch work to a different pool/coin without rebooting and you having no indication when it does that. The DevFee config is hard coded into the Braiins (or other 3rd party) software. It is also often considered a security hole because you have NO idea what it is doing and when. In this case you are knowingly allowing it to switch to the DevFee pool and you have to trust Braiins for that to be all it does.

While you can use a tool like Wireshark to find the IP of the pool and then block it, doing so will result in the miner shutting down until it is again allowed to 'phone home' so Braiins (or Vnish et al) get paid for you using their software.

[dugmaster]

Yes Braiins software takes 2.5% of your hashrate by periodically switching to what is called a DevFee pool and yes when it does you are not mining elsewhere. Stratum has an optional feature which can be enabled called Nsub that lets a miner seamlessly switch work to a different pool/coin without rebooting and you having no indication when it does that. The DevFee config is hard coded into the Braiins (or other 3rd party) software. It is also often considered a security hole because you have NO idea what it is doing and when. In this case you are knowingly allowing it to switch to the DevFee pool and you have to trust Braiins for that to be all it does.

While you can use a tool like Wireshark to find the IP of the pool and then block it, doing so will result in the miner shutting down until it is again allowed to 'phone home' so Braiins (or Vnish et al) get paid for you using their software.

Ohh okay, so it's true. Yes, you're right, of course you don't know what Brain or the software is doing. Is it now 2.5%, or maybe 3 or sometimes 5, hmm, no idea

[-ck]

Also, how do I find my transaction here: https://solo.ckpool.org/pool.txns - just a bunch of hex numbers.
Not sure what to look for.

Not sure what you're looking for in there as "your transaction". Those are the hashes of the current public bitcoin transactions worldwide that are candidates for being included in the next block.

[Sc0rPs]

Yes Braiins software takes 2.5% of your hashrate by periodically switching to what is called a DevFee pool and yes when it does you are not mining elsewhere. Stratum has an optional feature which can be enabled called Nsub that lets a miner seamlessly switch work to a different pool/coin without rebooting and you having no indication when it does that. The DevFee config is hard coded into the Braiins (or other 3rd party) software. It is also often considered a security hole because you have NO idea what it is doing and when. In this case you are knowingly allowing it to switch to the DevFee pool and you have to trust Braiins for that to be all it does.

While you can use a tool like Wireshark to find the IP of the pool and then block it, doing so will result in the miner shutting down until it is again allowed to 'phone home' so Braiins (or Vnish et al) get paid for you using their software.

Ohh okay, so it's true. Yes, you're right, of course you don't know what Brain or the software is doing. Is it now 2.5%, or maybe 3 or sometimes 5, hmm, no idea

 I don't think this is how braiins works, I have it running on a few of my S19 types, where I split the pools to mine on. For example I direct a small amount of hash to solo mine while the rest is on a pool like braiins. You can mine on several pools with that o/s simultaneously without issue, and the 2% fee is basically an invisible pool the miner points to all the time.

 I ran several pools (think it was 5 pools all being mined on the same ASIC), and even solo mining other coins like BCH - it had actually found blocks. I see the 2% loss in hashrate to make it more efficient and then can allocate a small portion to solo worth while. I have found no indication in loss of mining, in fact I view being able to make the miner more efficient worthwhile, and if mining on braiins with their o/s also gives an equal bonus by no pool fee so evens out.

 What I am now trying to test is if the "main pool" somehow is better to solo mine than say "pool 2" or whatever down the list.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

I don't think this is how braiins works

Yes, it is. Just check the terms on their site.
Snippit from there:

When you use Braiins OS, we collect a 2-2.5% dev fee (depending on the hardware model) by directing that percentage of your hashing power to our pool. It’s up to you which pool you mine with for the remaining 97.5-98%.

They do say that if you are using Braiins and mine to their pool then there is 0% pool fee - but you still pay the DevFee.

Now if you are switching pools between Braiins and here all the time - then I have no idea what happens. That said, this convo should be carried on in the Braiins thread - not here as it is definitely off topic.

[philipma1957]

Hi, ck, I had a proposal that can be implemented as an experiment at first for a period of 3 months, let's say, and then if users agree to make it permanent. I would propose to increase the 2% fee to 25%, and the extra 23% to be shared among all miners. It can be implemented as a trial only on eusolo.ckpool.org for the beginning. It's just a proposal, please don't beat around the bush, it may sound crazy at first glance.

No thanks. People mine here to mine solo.

Yeah ck will keep it true.

If you want some pay use a few pieces of gear point 2 of 3 at ck and 1 on another pool.

I have 1.5 ph to a pps+ pool

I have 22th pointed to ck pool

[Sc0rPs]

I don't think this is how braiins works

Yes, it is. Just check the terms on their site.
Snippit from there:

When you use Braiins OS, we collect a 2-2.5% dev fee (depending on the hardware model) by directing that percentage of your hashing power to our pool. It’s up to you which pool you mine with for the remaining 97.5-98%.

They do say that if you are using Braiins and mine to their pool then there is 0% pool fee - but you still pay the DevFee.

Now if you are switching pools between Braiins and here all the time - then I have no idea what happens. That said, this convo should be carried on in the Braiins thread - not here as it is definitely off topic.

 That's not what I meant, and you're right. They do snag a portion of your hash but in turn *if* you mine on their pool it is reimbursed in the form of bonus.

 What I meant to clarify is it sounded like this diversion affects your odds of mining up a solo block, this in itself is not true. It also makes it per ASIC and how you plan to deploy it, for example an older S9 does have a low power mode already but you can further decrease it with an after market o/s like braiins. You can also crank it up to hash out a lot more, I was just clarifying my case where I mined on several pools without issue and yes gave up some hash for it, so comes to user and their goals.

 For me I managed to I average below 21w per TH, stock would do about 28w per. So I am saving about 25% power costs and all together (without bonus if I would mine on braiins) dropped 20% in hashing. So for me, it makes the gain greater than the fee.

[dugmaster]

Also, how do I find my transaction here: https://solo.ckpool.org/pool.txns - just a bunch of hex numbers.
Not sure what to look for.

Not sure what you're looking for in there as "your transaction". Those are the hashes of the current public bitcoin transactions worldwide that are candidates for being included in the next block.

Hi ck, I'm in Europe and have always used the solostats.ckpool.org pool until now. Should I now switch to the eusolostats.ckpool.org pool. Is this absolutely necessary? Or does it not make a big difference if I am in Europe but do not switch to the eu pool?

[-ck]

Also, how do I find my transaction here: https://solo.ckpool.org/pool.txns - just a bunch of hex numbers.
Not sure what to look for.

Not sure what you're looking for in there as "your transaction". Those are the hashes of the current public bitcoin transactions worldwide that are candidates for being included in the next block.

Hi ck, I'm in Europe and have always used the solostats.ckpool.org pool until now. Should I now switch to the eusolostats.ckpool.org pool. Is this absolutely necessary? Or does it not make a big difference if I am in Europe but do not switch to the eu pool?

Yes it's definitely worth switching. I spent a lot of money on getting a very good pool up for EU users so it'd be a shame if you didn't use it.

[joker_josue]

-ck
I don't know if you noticed, but the download buttons on the cgminer.info homepage don't work.
They could be pointing to the download page, instead of directly to a file (which currently no longer exists).

[-ck]

-ck
I don't know if you noticed, but the download buttons on the cgminer.info homepage don't work.
They could be pointing to the download page, instead of directly to a file (which currently no longer exists).

I haven't maintained or supported cgminer in almost 5 years, and any downloads I placed for it were flagged as "coinminer" from google and it would blacklist my site.

[Janni]

Is this the donation adress: 1PKN98VN2z5gwSGZvGKS2bj8aADZBkyhkZ 

i will show some support for this Pool before i start Mining next days...

[-ck]

Is this the donation adress: 1PKN98VN2z5gwSGZvGKS2bj8aADZBkyhkZ 

i will show some support for this Pool before i start Mining next days...

Thanks, much appreciated! That's an old address, which still works but I'd prefer if you use the current pool mining address bc1q28kkr5hk4gnqe3evma6runjrd2pvqyp8fpwfzu . You can confirm the address by looking at the fee going to that address from the previous blocks https://mempool.space/mining/pool/solock

[Janni]

Is this the donation adress: 1PKN98VN2z5gwSGZvGKS2bj8aADZBkyhkZ 

i will show some support for this Pool before i start Mining next days...

Thanks, much appreciated! That's an old address, which still works but I'd prefer if you use the current pool mining address bc1q28kkr5hk4gnqe3evma6runjrd2pvqyp8fpwfzu . You can confirm the address by looking at the fee going to that address from the previous blocks https://mempool.space/mining/pool/solock

Ok fine will do, thank u and happy solo mining...

[drackysg]

Also, how do I find my transaction here: https://solo.ckpool.org/pool.txns - just a bunch of hex numbers.
Not sure what to look for.

Not sure what you're looking for in there as "your transaction". Those are the hashes of the current public bitcoin transactions worldwide that are candidates for being included in the next block.

Hi ck, I'm in Europe and have always used the solostats.ckpool.org pool until now. Should I now switch to the eusolostats.ckpool.org pool. Is this absolutely necessary? Or does it not make a big difference if I am in Europe but do not switch to the eu pool?

Yes it's definitely worth switching. I spent a lot of money on getting a very good pool up for EU users so it'd be a shame if you didn't use it.

i'm in southeast asia region but should i be using eupool to solo mine as i'm getting avg 160ms pings for eusolo.ckpool vs avg 240ms pings for solo.ckpool