🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[jakelyson]

I am surprised that Jame droppped his ranking from top 10 to bottom 20. Sure, Outsiders was inconsistent this year, but they did won RIO Major. And Jame fragged pretty well, at least from my point of view.

NiKo is still a solid rifler yeah. But it is like there has been some drop in his performance level in the last month of the year especially. I don't know if this can push him a little down in the list.

I have seen a clip of m0nesy while he was teaching NiKo some trick he found on a map.    It feels different to see m0nesy teaching some good things to his bigger friends than himself. I mean NiKo is normally much more experienced than m0nesy when it comes to professional tournaments. But CS:GO is of course not like a game that you need to be very experienced by playing for professional teams to learn new things. It is all about practice and trying to discover something new after new updates especially.

It is the person that dedicates more time in the game that finds those special tricks that could win a game. Experience-wise, Niko still has an advantage over Monesy, but skill-wise, Monesy is starting to take over. He had a monster performance in the latter part of 2022. I am not surprised if Monesy end up in top 10 or top 5 at the most.

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[sunsilk]

Dota 2 tournaments and actions are about to be back, on January 5, it's the start of week 1 for the China's DPC region 2023 tour and that's for division 1.

I'm not used to see other teams part of the division 1 there because there have been too many great teams that have been part of it, but it's good to see new teams and names got in.

While for the SEA, January 9 is the start of games for the same tournament but different region.

[CLS63]

It isn't easy to make this top 20 players list in CS:GO indeed. But the positions of some players really surprise me.

For example YEKINDAR is seen at the 15th position now. rain and huNter have already left him behind. This might be a little unfair to YEKINDAR to be honest. Because he made a huge effort to carry Liquid. He was one of the most remarkable fraggers after making a really big effort. I thought that this effort would deserve more than this but we will see the other names above him. I don't know maybe YEKINDAR's performance while we were close to the end of the year wasn't enough to make the average much better than this.

[dothebeats]

It isn't easy to make this top 20 players list in CS:GO indeed. But the positions of some players really surprise me.

For example YEKINDAR is seen at the 15th position now. rain and huNter have already left him behind. This might be a little unfair to YEKINDAR to be honest. Because he made a huge effort to carry Liquid. He was one of the most remarkable fraggers after making a really big effort. I thought that this effort would deserve more than this but we will see the other names above him. I don't know maybe YEKINDAR's performance while we were close to the end of the year wasn't enough to make the average much better than this.

Yeah pretty much the average stats of these players whole year round and which events they stand out is taken into consideration in the creation of this top 20 list from HLTV. It has been like this since I first started following professional CS:GO in 2016. YEKINDAR has been very explosive on the last months of 2022, but we haven't seen him popping off before that. He's like that average 0.8 - 1.0 rating player that knows his stuff around the map, knows his role, and can aim pretty well. huNter's placement is indeed somewhat questionable as he isn't that consistent of a player too, and compared to YEKINDAR, he's kind of left behind. I would even go so far as to saying b1t should be ahead of huNter- in the rankings but yeah, the Na'Vi rifler didn't really made that much noise too.

[ralle14]

Decided to take this bet after I browsed them, odds are just too good to ignore I guess. PSG.LGD totally consist of almost entire different roster and this is their first game ever in an official tournament so they could be sloppy and somehow lose a map to Dawn Gaming. Well its still pretty early but hey its a start as Im pretty bored right now waiting for tournaments to start

Those odds look crazy good, PSG's new roster still has a decent set of players coming from well known teams though while Dawn Gaming has the more questionable players coming from Saiyan gaming last season that got eliminated from division 2. I'll tail anyway since I also think the odds are worth betting even though PSG can likely 2-0 here.

[CLS63]

It isn't easy to make this top 20 players list in CS:GO indeed. But the positions of some players really surprise me.

For example YEKINDAR is seen at the 15th position now. rain and huNter have already left him behind. This might be a little unfair to YEKINDAR to be honest. Because he made a huge effort to carry Liquid. He was one of the most remarkable fraggers after making a really big effort. I thought that this effort would deserve more than this but we will see the other names above him. I don't know maybe YEKINDAR's performance while we were close to the end of the year wasn't enough to make the average much better than this.

Yeah pretty much the average stats of these players whole year round and which events they stand out is taken into consideration in the creation of this top 20 list from HLTV. It has been like this since I first started following professional CS:GO in 2016. YEKINDAR has been very explosive on the last months of 2022, but we haven't seen him popping off before that. He's like that average 0.8 - 1.0 rating player that knows his stuff around the map, knows his role, and can aim pretty well. huNter's placement is indeed somewhat questionable as he isn't that consistent of a player too, and compared to YEKINDAR, he's kind of left behind. I would even go so far as to saying b1t should be ahead of huNter- in the rankings but yeah, the Na'Vi rifler didn't really made that much noise too.

When we compare b1t and huNter's statistics we can see that there is a really small difference.

huNter seems to be better in 2022 by a slight gap statistically. And if we assess the situation by the impacts they have made on matches, I think huNter is still ahead. Because this year wasn't very good for b1t generally. There was a significant drop in his effort level in last months of the year as well. Natus Vincere really needed his great skills as a rifler. But he was quite inconsistent as a fragger. Maybe this was even one of the reasons behind Natus Vincere's bad form.

[len01]

Decided to take this bet after I browsed them, odds are just too good to ignore I guess. PSG.LGD totally consist of almost entire different roster and this is their first game ever in an official tournament so they could be sloppy and somehow lose a map to Dawn Gaming. Well its still pretty early but hey its a start as Im pretty bored right now waiting for tournaments to start

oh shit. I miss new news.
I'm a fan of dota 2 betting but some days I'm too busy with roulette betting and it causes me to miss PSG.LGD match news

but I see in the picture you put, you actually chose Dawn Gaming?
doesn't PSG.LGD have a bigger chance of winning?
and I think I will have a prediction that PSG.LGD will win

[arallmuus]

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Those odds look crazy good, PSG's new roster still has a decent set of players coming from well known teams though while Dawn Gaming has the more questionable players coming from Saiyan gaming last season that got eliminated from division 2. I'll tail anyway since I also think the odds are worth betting even though PSG can likely 2-0 here.

Yikes, I guess I was overconfident with my bet. I mean the odds are good though to gamble but it seems, PSG.LGD is still a pretty good team despite playing with their new roster. Dawn Gaming was trashed only on 19 and 22 minutes, that totally show the dominance that they had over the game on both map which is pretty incredible

[dothebeats]

It isn't easy to make this top 20 players list in CS:GO indeed. But the positions of some players really surprise me.

For example YEKINDAR is seen at the 15th position now. rain and huNter have already left him behind. This might be a little unfair to YEKINDAR to be honest. Because he made a huge effort to carry Liquid. He was one of the most remarkable fraggers after making a really big effort. I thought that this effort would deserve more than this but we will see the other names above him. I don't know maybe YEKINDAR's performance while we were close to the end of the year wasn't enough to make the average much better than this.

Yeah pretty much the average stats of these players whole year round and which events they stand out is taken into consideration in the creation of this top 20 list from HLTV. It has been like this since I first started following professional CS:GO in 2016. YEKINDAR has been very explosive on the last months of 2022, but we haven't seen him popping off before that. He's like that average 0.8 - 1.0 rating player that knows his stuff around the map, knows his role, and can aim pretty well. huNter's placement is indeed somewhat questionable as he isn't that consistent of a player too, and compared to YEKINDAR, he's kind of left behind. I would even go so far as to saying b1t should be ahead of huNter- in the rankings but yeah, the Na'Vi rifler didn't really made that much noise too.

When we compare b1t and huNter's statistics we can see that there is a really small difference.

huNter seems to be better in 2022 by a slight gap statistically. And if we assess the situation by the impacts they have made on matches, I think huNter is still ahead. Because this year wasn't very good for b1t generally. There was a significant drop in his effort level in last months of the year as well. Natus Vincere really needed his great skills as a rifler. But he was quite inconsistent as a fragger. Maybe this was even one of the reasons behind Natus Vincere's bad form.

huNter- really popped off in the latter months of 2022, contributing to G2's BLAST Premier win. I guess that really made the difference: the Major win. If not for that I guess we might see huNter's ranking lower - but maybe not lower than b1t you're correct as I've checked the stats and huNter- really is better in terms of everything. Dude's AWPing in some rounds that they converted to a win really is something else that b1t can't really do for Na'Vi, and I think b1t is one of the weak links of Na'Vi right now that needs to step down or improve if he wants to make his presence worth Na'Vis while.

[Balmain]

It isn't easy to make this top 20 players list in CS:GO indeed. But the positions of some players really surprise me.

For example YEKINDAR is seen at the 15th position now. rain and huNter have already left him behind. This might be a little unfair to YEKINDAR to be honest. Because he made a huge effort to carry Liquid. He was one of the most remarkable fraggers after making a really big effort. I thought that this effort would deserve more than this but we will see the other names above him. I don't know maybe YEKINDAR's performance while we were close to the end of the year wasn't enough to make the average much better than this.

Yeah pretty much the average stats of these players whole year round and which events they stand out is taken into consideration in the creation of this top 20 list from HLTV. It has been like this since I first started following professional CS:GO in 2016. YEKINDAR has been very explosive on the last months of 2022, but we haven't seen him popping off before that. He's like that average 0.8 - 1.0 rating player that knows his stuff around the map, knows his role, and can aim pretty well. huNter's placement is indeed somewhat questionable as he isn't that consistent of a player too, and compared to YEKINDAR, he's kind of left behind. I would even go so far as to saying b1t should be ahead of huNter- in the rankings but yeah, the Na'Vi rifler didn't really made that much noise too.

When we compare b1t and huNter's statistics we can see that there is a really small difference.

huNter seems to be better in 2022 by a slight gap statistically. And if we assess the situation by the impacts they have made on matches, I think huNter is still ahead. Because this year wasn't very good for b1t generally. There was a significant drop in his effort level in last months of the year as well. Natus Vincere really needed his great skills as a rifler. But he was quite inconsistent as a fragger. Maybe this was even one of the reasons behind Natus Vincere's bad form.

huNter- really popped off in the latter months of 2022, contributing to G2's BLAST Premier win. I guess that really made the difference: the Major win. If not for that I guess we might see huNter's ranking lower - but maybe not lower than b1t you're correct as I've checked the stats and huNter- really is better in terms of everything. Dude's AWPing in some rounds that they converted to a win really is something else that b1t can't really do for Na'Vi, and I think b1t is one of the weak links of Na'Vi right now that needs to step down or improve if he wants to make his presence worth Na'Vis while.

B1t performance stats can be bad yes. B1t has a role in the decline of Navi, but it is necessary not to put all the responsibility on one person. I think the main problem was the fifth player, there are a lot of factors in the team that caused the regression. When B1t does not take on the role of carrier, Navi usually loses when s1mple does a single frag. I remember last year B1t and s1mple always carried the team by scoring high. It was very important to the huNter g2. I can say that it is better than B1t this season.

[ralle14]

Yikes, I guess I was overconfident with my bet. I mean the odds are good though to gamble but it seems, PSG.LGD is still a pretty good team despite playing with their new roster. Dawn Gaming was trashed only on 19 and 22 minutes, that totally show the dominance that they had over the game on both map which is pretty incredible

Or maybe Dawn Gaming is just that bad of a team when they only got a total of 7 kills throughout those two maps.  

I'll try my chances on Team Aster -1.5 vs Knights @1.67 since Aster's squad is still the same and they brought in Aster Aries' former mid laner Xwy. Knight's roster still had some of the old RNG players but their new core players doesn't seem the best though.

[jakelyson]

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Those odds look crazy good, PSG's new roster still has a decent set of players coming from well known teams though while Dawn Gaming has the more questionable players coming from Saiyan gaming last season that got eliminated from division 2. I'll tail anyway since I also think the odds are worth betting even though PSG can likely 2-0 here.

Yikes, I guess I was overconfident with my bet. I mean the odds are good though to gamble but it seems, PSG.LGD is still a pretty good team despite playing with their new roster. Dawn Gaming was trashed only on 19 and 22 minutes, that totally show the dominance that they had over the game on both map which is pretty incredible

It is understandable to doubt the power of LGD right now. From their roster last season, only y and nothingtosay is left on the roster. I would avoid betting for now in DOTA due to the changes in rosters. It is still adjustment stage, and the teams are still very unpredictable. Maybe, I start betting after the first tour or the first Major of the season. At least by then, I have a good gauge which team are promising after their performance in their own region.

[Trofo]

Yikes, I guess I was overconfident with my bet. I mean the odds are good though to gamble but it seems, PSG.LGD is still a pretty good team despite playing with their new roster. Dawn Gaming was trashed only on 19 and 22 minutes, that totally show the dominance that they had over the game on both map which is pretty incredible

Or maybe Dawn Gaming is just that bad of a team when they only got a total of 7 kills throughout those two maps.  

I'll try my chances on Team Aster -1.5 vs Knights @1.67 since Aster's squad is still the same and they brought in Aster Aries' former mid laner Xwy. Knight's roster still had some of the old RNG players but their new core players doesn't seem the best though.

I am on the same bet, Aster roster looked way to good for me to pass that bet up and odds are not even that bad. First map went as expected and Aster owned it after very equal initial stage. My other bet was Lilgun +1.5 and than one passed but I haven't seen a minute of it.

Main thing is we have top tier DOTA back and I am very glad I can include it in my tickets.

[arallmuus]

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Or maybe Dawn Gaming is just that bad of a team when they only got a total of 7 kills throughout those two maps.  

I'll try my chances on Team Aster -1.5 vs Knights @1.67 since Aster's squad is still the same and they brought in Aster Aries' former mid laner Xwy. Knight's roster still had some of the old RNG players but their new core players doesn't seem the best though.

Yeah I guess they are just bad so betting on them to lose 2 maps against EHOME for the next one



I combined it with IG to win and technically Knights seems to be abit better but I'd love to add some variance onto this though as Im not really familiar with the CN region so I'd love to explore some weird combination I guess

[dothebeats]

B1t performance stats can be bad yes. B1t has a role in the decline of Navi, but it is necessary not to put all the responsibility on one person. I think the main problem was the fifth player, there are a lot of factors in the team that caused the regression. When B1t does not take on the role of carrier, Navi usually loses when s1mple does a single frag. I remember last year B1t and s1mple always carried the team by scoring high. It was very important to the huNter g2. I can say that it is better than B1t this season.

That's 2021 and early 2022 b1t that you're talking about. He usually was in the highlight reel doing clutches after clutches. I remember when s1mple, b1t, and Boombl4 made a lot of teams look like amateurs during their 2021 dominance. Those were the hey days of b1t that unfortunately I cannot see anymore. I guess the fault isn't only in b1t's inconsitency as of late. Electronic also has a part in their downfall plus the 5th man that struggled to find their tempo with the team. Sdy was great during his initial games with Navi, and the last minute replacement with npl just didn't really change anything to an already weak team. Hopefully npl makes up for his lackluster performance this 2023 though, for Navi to come back in the top 5 team like they just did in 2021.

[ralle14]

Aster won the series but unfortunately, they couldn't close it out within two maps. Their lineup during the second map was a bit greedy though and the doom barely had an impact similar to the first game.

I combined it with IG to win and technically Knights seems to be abit better but I'd love to add some variance onto this though as Im not really familiar with the CN region so I'd love to explore some weird combination I guess

I also have Ehome -1.5 in my parlay but i've combined it with Knights +1.5 for a total odds of 1.7 they looked competitive enough against Aster but i'm not confident in these guys winning the series.

[Mauser]

PSG LGD looks really strong in the Chinese division this year, I will keep betting on them for the next few matches. The match against Team Aster.Aries tomorrow should be an easy win for them, same as the match against EHOME next week. My second favourite team in China is Team Aster, they should also be winning their next two matches against Xtreme Gaming and Team Aster.Aries. Not going for any comi bets though, will stick to my single bets and make small steady returns to build up my bankroll for 2023. Also on Monday the DPC EU tour is starting. I am a bit more familiar with the European teams and probably will switch for my next big bets to the European games. Both Team Liquid and Team Secret are two really strong teams that could go far in the tournament and they are directly meeting on Monday. The match could go either way even though Team Liquid seems to be the favourite, I am going with Secret on this one. OG is facing Tundra Esports which should be an easy win for Tundra, they have a great team and OG is not doing that well anymore recently.

[boltz]

I've took a break with Dota 2 lately but I just started the stream between Polaris and Talon and surprising or not , Talon is playing the same old pace style with enemy having most kills , controlling the map and 23Savage chilling in the forest with the creeps haha doing what he knows best ...farming. Even if I took a break from watching Dota 2 since International , I've been playing some games of Dota2 here and there and I must say Tusk is one of the strongest hero in mid lane right now so no wonder why Tundra has one of their strategies with Tusk being mid ...as he is unbeatable.

[arallmuus]

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One down, one more to go. I guess Dawn Gaming is just bad but atleast it wasnt really one sided game like when they played against PSG.LGD but I'll probably never going to pick them to win a map anymore against any of the favourites in CN divison. Now I just need IG to win against Knights though, I bet decent stake on this acca

[execijutiere]

Csgo tournaments are starting to start in about 10 days. The first tournament we will watch will be the esl pro league qualifier. Turkish representative eternal fire will be the first opponent genk. I think eternal fire will easily enter the top 3 from this tournament and print their name in esl pro league season 17. It has been a good preparation process for eternal fire and they have had a new roster process. I don't think they will have any shortcomings this time and it will be up to the coaches and analysts from now on.