🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[Balmain]

The IEM Rio Grand Finals are super competitive. Vitality won the first map in a slightly different Vertigo. Magisk made a difference in Vertigo. The second map is Heroic's choice, inferno. Starting ct, Vitality made good use of this advantage and finished the 10-5 ct side. Heroic needs a really good defense in CT. To win this map and take it to the decider. Cadian's carbon awm shot is pretty good what was the timing.. This hit will bring the Inferno map to Heroic

[execijutiere]

Vitality was the winner in the IEM Rio final.Vitality won the match 2-0 and qualified for IEM Cologne 2023 as well as 100K dollars.Vitality performed very well as a team and everyone contributed well in terms of scoring. Honestly, I expected Heroic to win this match, but Vitality was the team that played better.There was a performance increase in Vitality after the spinx transfer and we can say that the burden on zywoo has decreased.But I still think that something is missing because the team wins with close scores while winning matches.This roster has a higher potential.

[passwordnow]

GG is already get the first map but I’m hesitant on this pick since Team Liquid is much more stronger than GG on all of their matches after the last major without Boxi. Complete Team Liquid is so strong for GG to handle but I give this a shot since there’s a new map and patches which change every strategy that all team in their pocket.

The game is so intense but I don’t want to place any bet on this. Not on match winner because there’s no dominant with this 2 team for this new patch.

Team Liquid managed to secure it to 2-2 and then they were on their final map. 22 minutes in the game and it is not looking good for Team Liquid.
I like more the heroes of GG for this final map whilst I'm not saying that the picks of Team Liquid aren't that good but it just so happens that it's more enthusiastic to think of GG's heroes to win this grand final.
But still, we'll see. Both are experienced and this is the grand finals for which that everything can happen and come backs do happen for real.

[boyptc]

That was an intense fight. Alchemist sure has got some buff on this update but then Tundra took it down. While for game 3, I think this is where all the highlights is gonna come from.

This hero, Muerta has been added to the captains mode and these teams have just been waiting for it to be used. It wasn't only Shopify Rebellion that used it but also Team Liquid.

I think Alchemist was not properly itemized in that game. Sure, he was farmed early and was able to build Tarrasque and rRadiance very early in the game but he did not get BKB to save himself when ganked or properly participate on team fights. I do not know why Arteezy did not get BKB but I do think that is the only item he missed that could have made a difference in that game. Anyway, they won the 3rd game and would face Gaimin Gladiators in the do-or-die match in the lower bracket finals.

There are missed chance that has never been done and with one single mistake or with one missed item, the game is being turned over.

Tundra is out and will go home with a 4th place and $85,000. While Team Liquid is waiting for the grand finals, the battle of 3rd and 2nd will be with GG and SR. Who you think will move to the grand finals guys?

Between Gaimin Gladiators and Shopify Rebellion, I am taking the side of GG in this match. Even though they have been swept by Team Liquid in the upper bracket, I still believe they can grind and have a better grasp of this patch before their match against SR. GG has been solid until now and I think they will be better against SR later. I expect a rematch between GG and Team Liquid for the finals of DreamLeague season 19.

You're right on this choice. GG has won against Shopify Rebellion and then they've won against Team Liquid. No doubt that GG's achievements recently are just proving them on how strong they are.

Now, they're directly invited in the Riyadh Masters with millions of dollars as prize pool and then aside from that, we'll get to see them play in the Berlin major.

[jakelyson]

Tundra is out and will go home with a 4th place and $85,000. While Team Liquid is waiting for the grand finals, the battle of 3rd and 2nd will be with GG and SR. Who you think will move to the grand finals guys?

Between Gaimin Gladiators and Shopify Rebellion, I am taking the side of GG in this match. Even though they have been swept by Team Liquid in the upper bracket, I still believe they can grind and have a better grasp of this patch before their match against SR. GG has been solid until now and I think they will be better against SR later. I expect a rematch between GG and Team Liquid for the finals of DreamLeague season 19.

You're right on this choice. GG has won against Shopify Rebellion and then they've won against Team Liquid. No doubt that GG's achievements recently are just proving them on how strong they are.

Now, they're directly invited in the Riyadh Masters with millions of dollars as prize pool and then aside from that, we'll get to see them play in the Berlin major.

That is actually an easy choice. There is no doubt in my mind that GG will win over Shopify Rebellion. Team Liquid and GG is a harder choice. As we can see in the matches played during the Finals. They had a complete series, going through all 5 maps. And in every map, there are numerous changes in leads. These two teams are really toe-to-toe in talent and either one could have won the series.

Congrats to Gaimin Gladiator for bagging the DreamLeague Season 19 Championship.

More than the prize money, I think the invite to Riyadh Masters is a bigger prize. They have now ensured a slot in one of the biggest E-sports events this year.

[boyptc]

You're right on this choice. GG has won against Shopify Rebellion and then they've won against Team Liquid. No doubt that GG's achievements recently are just proving them on how strong they are.

Now, they're directly invited in the Riyadh Masters with millions of dollars as prize pool and then aside from that, we'll get to see them play in the Berlin major.

That is actually an easy choice. There is no doubt in my mind that GG will win over Shopify Rebellion. Team Liquid and GG is a harder choice. As we can see in the matches played during the Finals. They had a complete series, going through all 5 maps. And in every map, there are numerous changes in leads. These two teams are really toe-to-toe in talent and either one could have won the series.

Congrats to Gaimin Gladiator for bagging the DreamLeague Season 19 Championship.

More than the prize money, I think the invite to Riyadh Masters is a bigger prize. They have now ensured a slot in one of the biggest E-sports events this year.

Honestly with the grand finals, many have thought that it's going to be Team Liquid but it seems that it's not enough to defeat GG. GG is just showing on how good they are.

Despite coming from the upper bracket and getting beaten by Team Liquid at their first matches. When they get below, the lower bracket against the Shopify Rebellion. There's already the advantage of Team Liquid's end because they're just waiting at the grand finals, clean, without any other team to match with.

While GG, they need to face first SR and then will have to match at the grand finals so, their minds were quite exhausted by that time but I think they know how to handle such stress.

[dimonstration]

Honestly with the grand finals, many have thought that it's going to be Team Liquid but it seems that it's not enough to defeat GG. GG is just showing on how good they are.

It’s normal that many predict Team Liquid will win grand finals since they beat GG without a problem on the Upper Bracket Finals. I believe the new patch gives GG a fair fight to Liquid once again since everyone is adjusting. I do emphasize this on my previous comment that every team is equal now due to the new patch. GG solve the problem with Underlord meta and beat Team Liquid with it.

The real fight will be on the next tournament probably on Riyadh Master and Berlin Major. Team Liquid is always got Jinx on championship. They already got this tournament if there’s no new patch implemented in the middle of the tournament.

[boyptc]

Honestly with the grand finals, many have thought that it's going to be Team Liquid but it seems that it's not enough to defeat GG. GG is just showing on how good they are.

It’s normal that many predict Team Liquid will win grand finals since they beat GG without a problem on the Upper Bracket Finals. I believe the new patch gives GG a fair fight to Liquid once again since everyone is adjusting. I do emphasize this on my previous comment that every team is equal now due to the new patch. GG solve the problem with Underlord meta and beat Team Liquid with it.

Yes, because they've performed very well during the group stage 1 & 2 and that's why everybody thought that it was Team Liquid that's going to win the finals.

All of these teams are still in adjustment with the new patch but I guess that GG was able to learn it better and further before Team Liquid. But I am sure that TL is going to be back stronger.

The real fight will be on the next tournament probably on Riyadh Master and Berlin Major. Team Liquid is always got Jinx on championship. They already got this tournament if there’s no new patch implemented in the middle of the tournament.

Berlin major is where we'll see the adjustments needed by most teams with this new patch. It's hell of an update and too many have changed from items, to heroes and map control.

[ILuckyGuyI]

It was a really lovely run in the IEM Rio 2023 and Vitality beat Heroic by 2-0 in the grand final.

As you know the finals are played with BO3 format from now on. BO5 seemed nice to many people maybe but I think that it wasn't an ideal format. Because it was too long and many people were getting bored after watching until a point. Anyway coming back to the grand final, I would have expected Heroic to win a map also. Inferno was picked by them in fact but their bad performance in the first half made things difficult for themselves. Vitality were really consistent on both maps and they surely deserved the win.

ZywOo became the MVP of the tournament. Vitality won $100k + a ticket to the next IEM Cologne as well - which is going to take place in this year. The prize pool is going to be $1m in that tournament.  

[arallmuus]

How about an early Major bet to start the Major discussion?

Obviously GG to win, its a no brainer. We know how good they were in Dreamleague so thats pretty much a guaranteed there and I am never convince with the SEA region team, therefore Im taking PSG.LGD to win as well. I also got a single slip on GG, thats how confident I am with that bet though

[passwordnow]

How about an early Major bet to start the Major discussion?

Obviously GG to win, its a no brainer. We know how good they were in Dreamleague so thats pretty much a guaranteed there and I am never convince with the SEA region team, therefore Im taking PSG.LGD to win as well. I also got a single slip on GG, thats how confident I am with that bet though

SEA is considered one of the weakest regions and that's why the confidence that you're feeling about a SEA team like Execration is bearable. But with the matches and the progress that I've seen with them, rock bottoming up to redemption that they've got and managed to get into the international stage again is one of the good progresses that this team has taken with the set of new and younger talents that they've got. And in terms of experience, without a doubt that PSG.LGD is taking the lead and advantage between the two. Still, it's a team game and one mistake of one can change the entire game's result and that's why Execration still has the chance to win despite being low. And regards to GG and EG, it's the same situation as the first said match. Good luck with your bets though.

[arallmuus]

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SEA is considered one of the weakest regions and that's why the confidence that you're feeling about a SEA team like Execration is bearable.

I should have added disclaimer onto my last statement about that region. If it was Talon than I'd be happy to bet on them considering they were pretty good on the last Major but probably not on the other teams

I made another risky bet, taking Ex- HR to win against TSM. Nothing particular in my mind, I think the odds are great and thats all. To be fair its a new patch so basically its a fresh start for all top teams in the Major

[ralle14]

How about an early Major bet to start the Major discussion?

I got the same bet plus Team Liquid, I told myself I wouldn't bet pre-live but I can't resist the promo from 500casino as they're offering extra winnings on the teams that would finish the groups.



I'll be skipping GG's series against PSG.LGD though as I still don't know how teams from the other region would adapt to the new patch.

[Road21Bitcoin]

ESL One Berlin Major 2023 has started!

Which teams do you think will secure the upper bracket of the playoffs?

Here are my top four teams that will secure the upper bracket slot: Gaimin Gladiators (obviously the Lima Champion), Team Liquid (currently the #2 world rank), PSG. LGD (just a fanboy) and Tundra Esports (TI 2022 Champion) or 9 Pandas (the Dark horse)

ESL One Berlin Major 2023 - Group Stage Day 1 - April 26, 2023

Schedule of Matches: Group A (BO2)
 •  Gaimin Gladiators vs Evil Geniuses
 •  Execration vs PSG.LGD
 •  9 Pandas vs TSM
 •  BetBoom vs TeamAster
 • Liquid vs Team Aster 
 • TSM vs BetBoom 
 • PSG.LGD vs Gaimin Gladiator 
 •  Execration vs Evil Geniuses 

Group B (BO2)
 • Tundra vs Team Spirit
 • Talon vs Beast Coast 
 • Shopify Rebellion vs Invictus Gaming 
 • SMG vs OG 
 • Xtreme Gaming vs OG 
 • Team Spirit vs Shopify Rebellion 
 • Invictus Gaming vs Tundra 
 • Shopify Rebellion vs SMG 

[passwordnow]

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SEA is considered one of the weakest regions and that's why the confidence that you're feeling about a SEA team like Execration is bearable.

I should have added disclaimer onto my last statement about that region. If it was Talon than I'd be happy to bet on them considering they were pretty good on the last Major but probably not on the other teams

Speaking of Talon, we're on the same thinking on them. I think that they're the strongest team on the SEA region right now and as of typing this, they're having a match against beastcoast on the Berlin Major. Standing is 0-1 in favor of BC but this 2nd map seems to be gonna be taken by them. It's first time again to see an omniknight that's doing well on such major and take note, this omniknight is mid and played by mikoto which the ones that I usually see in tournaments plays the pos 5.

[arallmuus]

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I got the same bet plus Team Liquid, I told myself I wouldn't bet pre-live but I can't resist the promo from 500casino as they're offering extra winnings on the teams that would finish the groups.

Gosh both ended up as a draw which is kinda unexpected. I had extra stake on GG though and there goes my hundred bucks 

Glad that I made something extra from picking ex HR though for 3x odds, I guess TSM was just that bad huh. Anyway, both MC and Sumail was playing incredibly well though I guess they are both still top tier despite sticking with Nigma for so long

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Kinda reminds me on how @tomamhawk9 always update this stuff. Wondering how he is doing rn

Standing is 0-1 in favor of BC but this 2nd map seems to be gonna be taken by them.

Watched that game, they were basically throwing that 1st map. It could have been easy 2-0 for them

[passwordnow]

Standing is 0-1 in favor of BC but this 2nd map seems to be gonna be taken by them.

Watched that game, they were basically throwing that 1st map. It could have been easy 2-0 for them

They've won the 2nd map and yes, it could have been a 2-0 for them. Day 1 has ended and just as we're talking about the SEA region, all of the three SEA teams didn't ended well especially Execration. It's said that they're low morale after this day but it's not yet the end of their journey. Yes, this may be the first day and could be a deciding factor to gain confidence for all of the matches made. But then, we still have 4 days remaining left until the group stage ends and that's a lot of days and a lot of things can happen for most of them.

[ralle14]

Gosh both ended up as a draw which is kinda unexpected. I had extra stake on GG though and there goes my hundred bucks 

I guess TSM was just that bad huh. Anyway, both MC and Sumail was playing incredibly well though I guess they are both still top tier despite sticking with Nigma for so long

I also didn't expect both series to finish on a draw and the series I avoided is the one that went 2-0. 

Here's what I have for today though, the TSM bet is already a no-brainer while OG vs Spirit seems to be heading towards a draw since OG got a good start while Team Spirit is continuing their trend of splitting maps. More confident about the EG bet than the draw when TSM is back to their losing ways.

[dbshck]

Is anyone following the Brazy Party 2023 CS:GO tournament? It's not a tier 1 event, but it's entertaining enough to pass the time as we wait for the major. Several top 20 teams are participating, including Astralis, BIG, C9, and ENCE. Today, the opening matches for groups C and D are Astralis vs. GL and C9 vs. Sprout, respectively. Based on their performance in IEM Rio last week, Cloud9 should easily breeze past Sprout, but the odds for them are so low that it's probably not worth betting.

On the other hand, the Astralis vs. GL match should be a closer contest. The odds currently favor Astralis at 1.5, but I think GL has a solid chance to pull off an upset. I'll be placing a bet on them and hoping they bring their A-game against Astralis.

[Trofo]

Gosh both ended up as a draw which is kinda unexpected. I had extra stake on GG though and there goes my hundred bucks 

I guess TSM was just that bad huh. Anyway, both MC and Sumail was playing incredibly well though I guess they are both still top tier despite sticking with Nigma for so long

I also didn't expect both series to finish on a draw and the series I avoided is the one that went 2-0. 

Here's what I have for today though, the TSM bet is already a no-brainer while OG vs Spirit seems to be heading towards a draw since OG got a good start while Team Spirit is continuing their trend of splitting maps. More confident about the EG bet than the draw when TSM is back to their losing ways.

Though games to call so far, I had some success with taking +1.5 handicaps on underdogs but nothing substantial so far. Only "certain" bets I feel confident to call are usually when 2 teams are about even value and then taking slight underdog +1.5 but those odds are @1.35 so nothing special.

That being said I feel like Shopify Rebelion, Bet Boom and 9 Pandas are playing very good DOTA while they are almost always not favored so I will try to force them a bit in the group. Liquid does not look invincible like in the old patch so maybe betting against them sweeping is also a good call.

Execretion is terrible so far, so betting against them seems profitable as well.