🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[execijutiere]

Blast premier spring showdown europe matches started today. The first match of the day was a nip-og match. Degster was replaced by smooya. Nip won 2-1. No matter how well Flamez played, he couldn't win the match for his team. Nip was the better team and they deserved it.
The second match was played between C9 and copenhagen flames. After a disappointing loss against Faze, c9 didn't seem to be affected too much. It must be said that they played very well. They beat their opponent 2-0. Hobb1t and sh1ro were the players who made the difference.

There were no surprises in these matches. The matches turned out as I expected. I actually thought you could beat NIP 2-0 in the OG-NIP match. I wasn't aware of the Smooya change in the OG team. It is said that Smooya is a good awm player. Also they are said incompatible for him, this is a complete risk, it will be understood later on. His compatibility with the team. He looked good in this match. AWM did his duty adequately, it was his first match if I'm not mistaken. Hobb1t and sh1ro don't have much to say about them, I can say they are the best. FaZe is the top team. Teams like copenhagen flames can't impress Cloud9 much.

Honestly, I was expecting OG to win, but then I saw that smooya was playing instead of degster.Degster is a different talent.Smooya hasn't played with such teams for a long time and was broadcasting last time. That's why I think he underperformed.There was no surprise match yesterday.In the last match of the day, BIG beat Rare Atom comfortably.I must say that BIG played well as a team. In Rare Atom, moseyuh had a good performance but it was not enough for them to win.

[boyptc]

What can you say about what 23savage said about Filipino Dota 2 players? He's truly savage about that statement or he's just being bitter with what he has experienced after being kicked on his former team and was replaced when he's still with T1?

I thought that it's just an April fools but he really said that on his stream but then deleted it but he said that he's firm with that statement. And he's got no issues with his Filipino friends and he's still intact with them.

Anyways, his team - Talon Esports ended as the 1st place on this DPC season and will go to Berlin major with 400 DPC points earned.

[execijutiere]

Blast premier spring showdown matches continue today. The first match of the day was nip vs C9. C9 won the match 2-1 and advanced to the semifinals. Nip didn't perform very well on the ancient map of his choice. We can say that ax1le and sh1ro were the stars of the map. The second map was the overpass map chosen by c9. This time, on the contrary, c9 couldn't win the map of their choice and the match was extended to the decider map. The decider map was vertigo. C9 won the map with a good team game and became the team that wrote its name in the semi-finals.

[jakelyson]

What can you say about what 23savage said about Filipino Dota 2 players? He's truly savage about that statement or he's just being bitter with what he has experienced after being kicked on his former team and was replaced when he's still with T1?

I thought that it's just an April fools but he really said that on his stream but then deleted it but he said that he's firm with that statement. And he's got no issues with his Filipino friends and he's still intact with them.

Anyways, his team - Talon Esports ended as the 1st place on this DPC season and will go to Berlin major with 400 DPC points earned.

I am not updated with what he said about Filipino DOTA players. Can you share a link if there are copies of his stream before it was deleted?


The match between OG and Entity will be important for both of them. The one who losses will have to go through a 3-way tiebreaker to who will be relegated to the Div 2. While the winner will have to go through a two-way tiebreaker for who will go to the major. It is the last day of the regional qualifiers, but it will still be full of action.

[dothebeats]

What can you say about what 23savage said about Filipino Dota 2 players? He's truly savage about that statement or he's just being bitter with what he has experienced after being kicked on his former team and was replaced when he's still with T1?

I thought that it's just an April fools but he really said that on his stream but then deleted it but he said that he's firm with that statement. And he's got no issues with his Filipino friends and he's still intact with them.

Anyways, his team - Talon Esports ended as the 1st place on this DPC season and will go to Berlin major with 400 DPC points earned.

I am not updated with what he said about Filipino DOTA players. Can you share a link if there are copies of his stream before it was deleted?

Dude just had a lot of beef against Filipino dota players. He was asked if he'll ever want to be teammates with Filipino players, and responded that he's okay with 1 max, but not with 3 or more of them in the same team. Idk what prompted him to say those words. Probably bad experience with his old mates in T1. 23savage back then never really achieved anything great, not without Karl and the gang. Idk what transpired on their stay together, but it's definitely not that good if he ended saying those words against Filipino dota players in general.

[Jossque]

The first matches were played in the IEM dallas europe closed qualifier matches.If I go in order, I would like to start with the NiP-OG match. NiP defeated the OG team 2-0 and advanced to the semifinals in the upper bracket.We can say that Konfig's performance was impressive.In the Spirit-Astralis match, we can say that he showed an unexpected performance from Buzz.It should be noted that he quickly adapted to the team.Astralis played well against spirit as a team this time.Although the maps were close, they knew how to win.
We saw Cloud9 struggling against the Estonian team.fejtz is the only name I recognize in the team made up of Estonian players. Ax1le and Sh1ro again showed their skills in this match and won the match for their team.
In the last match of the day, I can say that I encountered an unexpected result.Fnatic lost 2-1 to Godsent team. Although Fnatic has been making changes in its roster for a long time, it has not been able to achieve the success and performance it wanted. Actually, I think their roster is in good condition, but they can't achieve success. I can't go without saying that RustY was the star, he had a really good game.

[Peanutswar]

What can you say about what 23savage said about Filipino Dota 2 players? He's truly savage about that statement or he's just being bitter with what he has experienced after being kicked on his former team and was replaced when he's still with T1?

I thought that it's just an April fools but he really said that on his stream but then deleted it but he said that he's firm with that statement. And he's got no issues with his Filipino friends and he's still intact with them.

Anyways, his team - Talon Esports ended as the 1st place on this DPC season and will go to Berlin major with 400 DPC points earned.

I am not updated with what he said about Filipino DOTA players. Can you share a link if there are copies of his stream before it was deleted?

Dude just had a lot of beef against Filipino dota players. He was asked if he'll ever want to be teammates with Filipino players, and responded that he's okay with 1 max, but not with 3 or more of them in the same team. Idk what prompted him to say those words. Probably bad experience with his old mates in T1. 23savage back then never really achieved anything great, not without Karl and the gang. Idk what transpired on their stay together, but it's definitely not that good if he ended saying those words against Filipino dota players in general.

We know how does 23savage carry the Fnatic at that time of era and at the same time with the T1 he has a really good run with them but of course we cannot avoid having a language barrier to the team its quite hard to communicate with other languages just to make a good team fight, there's nothing wrong with their team theres something happen with the management the same like the TNC thats why T1 got wreck  they cannot really afford a good management, thats why they keep changing their rooster even their players is really good.

[dbshck]

Blast premier spring showdown matches continue today. The first match of the day was nip vs C9. C9 won the match 2-1 and advanced to the semifinals. Nip didn't perform very well on the ancient map of his choice. We can say that ax1le and sh1ro were the stars of the map. The second map was the overpass map chosen by c9. This time, on the contrary, c9 couldn't win the map of their choice and the match was extended to the decider map. The decider map was vertigo. C9 won the map with a good team game and became the team that wrote its name in the semi-finals.

C9's performance is simply on another level against these teams, undefeated so far in the Blast Spring Showdown and IEM Dallas Closed Qual. They should easily get past BIG tomorrow in the grand final and get that Spring Final ticket. They're also just one match behind from getting the IEM Dallas invite.

Missed the EU showdown today, will bet on the Americas. Hopefully Liquid doesn't throw this match as they did in ESL S17 Also, considering how EG Black won against Furia yesterday, hard to pass on this odd.

[dothebeats]

What can you say about what 23savage said about Filipino Dota 2 players? He's truly savage about that statement or he's just being bitter with what he has experienced after being kicked on his former team and was replaced when he's still with T1?

I thought that it's just an April fools but he really said that on his stream but then deleted it but he said that he's firm with that statement. And he's got no issues with his Filipino friends and he's still intact with them.

Anyways, his team - Talon Esports ended as the 1st place on this DPC season and will go to Berlin major with 400 DPC points earned.

I am not updated with what he said about Filipino DOTA players. Can you share a link if there are copies of his stream before it was deleted?

Dude just had a lot of beef against Filipino dota players. He was asked if he'll ever want to be teammates with Filipino players, and responded that he's okay with 1 max, but not with 3 or more of them in the same team. Idk what prompted him to say those words. Probably bad experience with his old mates in T1. 23savage back then never really achieved anything great, not without Karl and the gang. Idk what transpired on their stay together, but it's definitely not that good if he ended saying those words against Filipino dota players in general.

We know how does 23savage carry the Fnatic at that time of era and at the same time with the T1 he has a really good run with them but of course we cannot avoid having a language barrier to the team its quite hard to communicate with other languages just to make a good team fight, there's nothing wrong with their team theres something happen with the management the same like the TNC thats why T1 got wreck  they cannot really afford a good management, thats why they keep changing their rooster even their players is really good.

His message is directed towards teammates. He had some Filipino dota players as his teammate for 2 years and he never achieved anything significant save for that Animajor semi-finals run and ESL win. Surely it grows on him that even though his teammates are mechanically gifted and some of the best in the region, they still didn't achieve anything significant. Probably that TI early departure made him grow even hostile towards his teammates and it's understandable, but no need to get that remark anywhere and he can just keep that thing to himself but he chose to call out people when it's uncalled for.

[execijutiere]

Blast premier spring showdown matches continue today. The first match of the day was nip vs C9. C9 won the match 2-1 and advanced to the semifinals. Nip didn't perform very well on the ancient map of his choice. We can say that ax1le and sh1ro were the stars of the map. The second map was the overpass map chosen by c9. This time, on the contrary, c9 couldn't win the map of their choice and the match was extended to the decider map. The decider map was vertigo. C9 won the map with a good team game and became the team that wrote its name in the semi-finals.

C9's performance is simply on another level against these teams, undefeated so far in the Blast Spring Showdown and IEM Dallas Closed Qual. They should easily get past BIG tomorrow in the grand final and get that Spring Final ticket. They're also just one match behind from getting the IEM Dallas invite.

Missed the EU showdown today, will bet on the Americas. Hopefully Liquid doesn't throw this match as they did in ESL S17 Also, considering how EG Black won against Furia yesterday, hard to pass on this odd.

I also expect C9 to beat BIG.Last time they had a good performance in the esl pro league final and played the final match with faze.Faze played better than them and won.Now C9's opponent is weaker than Faze and is an opponent that they can beat.I think they will win the match without much difficulty.
The Pain-Liquid match is a very middle match.Now the situation is 1-1 and it is up to the decider map.When we look at the rosters of the two sides, liquid has a better roster as a team, but there is definitely something wrong.
EG had an incredible win against Furia.Junior played great in the match and won the match for his team.You can bet on EG in this match, at least it won't be a surprise.

[jakelyson]

Dude just had a lot of beef against Filipino dota players. He was asked if he'll ever want to be teammates with Filipino players, and responded that he's okay with 1 max, but not with 3 or more of them in the same team. Idk what prompted him to say those words. Probably bad experience with his old mates in T1. 23savage back then never really achieved anything great, not without Karl and the gang. Idk what transpired on their stay together, but it's definitely not that good if he ended saying those words against Filipino dota players in general.

Oh, so that's what happened. That is actually justifiable. I am a Filipino and I curse every time I play DOTA on our server. I think it is not so different with the Pro players after all if he comments something like that. The toxicity just carries over to the professional players. I think he should have not said it publicly because he is professional and should keep negativity to himself aside from getting backslash from lots of Filipino fans. But I can forgive him since I understand how he feels.




Taking a risk on OG on their game later against Entity. I know OG is not performing well this tour and they could be relegated to the 2nd Division but Entity is not so great as well. I think they could just be toe-to-toe and either could take a win. OG had a good rest and hopefully grind enough to bet Entity.

[boyptc]

What can you say about what 23savage said about Filipino Dota 2 players? He's truly savage about that statement or he's just being bitter with what he has experienced after being kicked on his former team and was replaced when he's still with T1?

I thought that it's just an April fools but he really said that on his stream but then deleted it but he said that he's firm with that statement. And he's got no issues with his Filipino friends and he's still intact with them.

Anyways, his team - Talon Esports ended as the 1st place on this DPC season and will go to Berlin major with 400 DPC points earned.

I am not updated with what he said about Filipino DOTA players. Can you share a link if there are copies of his stream before it was deleted?

This is the link when he stand firm of what he said about those players --> https://www.facebook.com/23savageDotA/posts/pfbid035iG1oZ1Ki8Nsex8h86fNySxKwtEBgaqEVtCv4Ge3B1z9vACyz9bAmsZu2SJWyn6ql

And I think it's just all about being hurt when he's got kicked.

Then, he posted again for apologies about his insensitive comments about the players on that stream. I can't find the stream anymore but these posts of him will give you the idea.

--> https://www.facebook.com/23savageDotA/posts/pfbid0r6EYdSWjUcs7r7V83BXaM2kWWket7zi7N7ZJiwHo3GmqjPzSZnRayGvCe9uCP84vl

[Jossque]

We can say that we did not see a surprise result on day 2 of the IEM Dallas qualifiers.
In the OG-synck match, OG was the winning team even though it was a bit difficult.I have to say that he had some difficulties especially on mirage, the map of his choice.
FlameZ showed a great performance and won the match for his team.NEOFRAG, on the other hand, played badly after a long time.As far as I know, it is ridiculous for NEOFRAG to play so badly when their IGL is niko and even he got such a good frag.
In the Spirit-Fnatic match, Fnatic won 2-0.Fnatic was also the team that struggled on the map of its choice. fnatic won the map 16-14 after losing 12-3 on the Overpass map.
In the Astralis-Godsent match, Astralis was the winner.I should mention that they played well as a team.Although they did not have a comfortable match, it should be said that they played well throughout the match.
Especially in the last map, Ancient, they showed a good t side performance.
In the NiP-C9 match, C9 was the winner.Again, we can say that ax1le and sh1ro played well in the match and it was thanks to them that they won.When these two names play badly in the team, the c9 team's chances of winning the match decrease.So we can say that every match actually depends on these 2 players playing well.If the opposing teams take measures against these two players, it will be easy for them to win.

[dothebeats]

Dude just had a lot of beef against Filipino dota players. He was asked if he'll ever want to be teammates with Filipino players, and responded that he's okay with 1 max, but not with 3 or more of them in the same team. Idk what prompted him to say those words. Probably bad experience with his old mates in T1. 23savage back then never really achieved anything great, not without Karl and the gang. Idk what transpired on their stay together, but it's definitely not that good if he ended saying those words against Filipino dota players in general.

Oh, so that's what happened. That is actually justifiable. I am a Filipino and I curse every time I play DOTA on our server. I think it is not so different with the Pro players after all if he comments something like that. The toxicity just carries over to the professional players. I think he should have not said it publicly because he is professional and should keep negativity to himself aside from getting backslash from lots of Filipino fans. But I can forgive him since I understand how he feels.

Pretty sure it's more than that. But again, if he had personal grudges against those people that he got in his team, he shouldn't have generalized Filipino pro players. Just look at Abed for instance..

Taking a risk on OG on their game later against Entity. I know OG is not performing well this tour and they could be relegated to the 2nd Division but Entity is not so great as well. I think they could just be toe-to-toe and either could take a win. OG had a good rest and hopefully grind enough to bet Entity.

I thought OG is a bad pick in general right now because they are underperforming? Lots of people have said this and I kinda think it's true. They are in the brink of being relegated to Div 2 if they do not get enough wins for this DPC tour. Would have been nicer for them anyway so that they can get their shit together and hopefully renew their outlook in Dota 2 and grind it harder.

[dbshck]

I also expect C9 to beat BIG.Last time they had a good performance in the esl pro league final and played the final match with faze.Faze played better than them and won.Now C9's opponent is weaker than Faze and is an opponent that they can beat.I think they will win the match without much difficulty.
The Pain-Liquid match is a very middle match.Now the situation is 1-1 and it is up to the decider map.When we look at the rosters of the two sides, liquid has a better roster as a team, but there is definitely something wrong.

Yeah guess it's official now Pain is better than Liquid. They might've taken the match if they could close their 11-2 advantage on Nuke. No NA team on the final, RIP NA CS

EG had an incredible win against Furia.Junior played great in the match and won the match for his team.You can bet on EG in this match, at least it won't be a surprise.

It turned out to be a surprising 2-0 loss lol that makes it 0/2 on last night's bets ugh. What's your pick on tonight's IEM Dallas Qual?

[passwordnow]

His message is directed towards teammates. He had some Filipino dota players as his teammate for 2 years and he never achieved anything significant save for that Animajor semi-finals run and ESL win. Surely it grows on him that even though his teammates are mechanically gifted and some of the best in the region, they still didn't achieve anything significant. Probably that TI early departure made him grow even hostile towards his teammates and it's understandable, but no need to get that remark anywhere and he can just keep that thing to himself but he chose to call out people when it's uncalled for.

He just never had a good run with his past team, T1 together with those teammates that he's calling for the attention of because he and his new team kept on beating their assess. It may seem to be uncalled for but it's a truth that has come from his feeling of dismay at what happened to him. I guess that he was keeping it for a long time and he just got the courage to tell it so that it would be released. Well, what's done is already done and he has said what he feels and those players that might have been called for even without naming it, no need to prove him wrong.

[jakelyson]

I thought OG is a bad pick in general right now because they are underperforming? Lots of people have said this and I kinda think it's true. They are in the brink of being relegated to Div 2 if they do not get enough wins for this DPC tour. Would have been nicer for them anyway so that they can get their shit together and hopefully renew their outlook in Dota 2 and grind it harder.

I was hoping they will perform better in this match since they are on the brink of getting relegated.

And it worked. They won against Entity with ease. They are down on the second map, but they recovered nicely through Midas. They beat Entity 2-0 and were very dominant in this game. They are now heading tomorrow for the Major tiebreaker against Ooredoo Thunders. They beat Ooredoo in their first match so I think OG will have the upper hand tomorrow and could potentially still go to the Majors after a bad performance in this regional. We will see tomorrow if they can keep it together and perform like how they perform today to qualify for Major.

[boyptc]

The Berlin major is about to get full, only the last one slot from WEU is being waited on to fill the whole stack of participants. So, the last slot is either going to be taken and will be fighted for by OG and Ooredoo Thunders.

Honestly, majority of us here would like to see OG participate the Berlin major and take that last slot but OT won't just allow that to happen easily and we'll get to see it happen later.

For the list of participating teams, you can see it here guys --> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Berlin_Major/2023

[jakelyson]

The Berlin major is about to get full, only the last one slot from WEU is being waited on to fill the whole stack of participants. So, the last slot is either going to be taken and will be fighted for by OG and Ooredoo Thunders.

Honestly, majority of us here would like to see OG participate the Berlin major and take that last slot but OT won't just allow that to happen easily and we'll get to see it happen later.

For the list of participating teams, you can see it here guys --> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Berlin_Major/2023

When Yuragi was interviewed after their win against Entity, he said that they have a good chance to get into Berlin Major. It means that he is confident that they will beat Ooredoo Thunders in their tiebreaker game for the Major slot. There is a reason he is confident though. They easily beat Ooredoo in their first match on this tour. There is no reason they will be beaten unless they slack off and failed to prepare for the series against Ooredoo.

I think I will risk again on OG but I will check the odds first. If it is good, I will put a good amount for OG to win.

[execijutiere]

I also expect C9 to beat BIG.Last time they had a good performance in the esl pro league final and played the final match with faze.Faze played better than them and won.Now C9's opponent is weaker than Faze and is an opponent that they can beat.I think they will win the match without much difficulty.
The Pain-Liquid match is a very middle match.Now the situation is 1-1 and it is up to the decider map.When we look at the rosters of the two sides, liquid has a better roster as a team, but there is definitely something wrong.

Yeah guess it's official now Pain is better than Liquid. They might've taken the match if they could close their 11-2 advantage on Nuke. No NA team on the final, RIP NA CS

EG had an incredible win against Furia.Junior played great in the match and won the match for his team.You can bet on EG in this match, at least it won't be a surprise.

It turned out to be a surprising 2-0 loss lol that makes it 0/2 on last night's bets ugh. What's your pick on tonight's IEM Dallas Qual?

ohh sorry, I just saw it.

Honestly, I wouldn't bet on Pain-Imperail first of all, because both teams have potential, even though they've met before, it's an equal win for both teams, so I wouldn't bet on this match. Imperial played well as a team and won the match.

In the Astralis-Cloud 9 matchup, I went with astralis with a slight risk. Cloud9 has good players, but as a team they sometimes lose ridiculous rounds. Astralis, on the other hand, has the talent and potential to capitalize on this, so I went with Astralis with low risk.