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June 18, 2023, 01:29:19 PM
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It looks like NaVi have decided to bench npl after an inadequate level of performance. You know he was replaced by sdy temporarily. But his rating during his time here was really low. I don't know if he is the main problem behind the unsuccessful run now but I also think they should sign a better player quickly. Since Boombl4's departure NaVi have been experiencing serious issues with filling his place with the right player. He was the IGL of the team in the end and this role is very important for success.

NaVi's last championship was in PGL Major Stockholm 2021. They haven't been able to win any titles since then and this is serious for a big team like them.
I don't think npl is the main problem, but of course a better player can be transferred to replace npl.There are obviously some mismatches in the team and I give it to the ego war between them.S1mple is a really good player, but I think he sometimes reflects it badly on his teammates. Of course we don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes, but that's my opinion.NaVi's roster is still top notch, but they don't have the igl to provide enough frag contribution.I'm in favor of transferring hobb1t from C9.It will definitely be a plus for them.

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June 18, 2023, 02:21:05 PM
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At Dota2 Dreamhack there are two matches that interest me to bet on them even though they are risky but they seem to give a decent chance of winning.
Team Spirit vs GG
9 Pandas vs Talon Esports
I took the win for GG and Talon by doing a multi bet.



Isn't 9 Pandas way stronger than Talon right now? The odds are somewhat tricky to decide on, and 2.35 is a huge odd to pass on. If I were you, I wouldn't really add this match to any multi bet, and I would do singles and bet for Talon just to be safe. The first one you already have on the leg is relatively safe however 9 Pandas is just playing quite well right now that I am having doubts on how well Talon can go against them.
I don't know which one is the strongest of the two, but I'm sure Talon play very well this year.
This is just a match on Dota2 Dreamhack so things are hard to guess and the game could easily turn around even though 9 Pandas is better.
Talon on DPC is very good and can keep up with several other strong teams so there is still a high probability for them to win the match against 9 Pandas.

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June 18, 2023, 10:58:29 PM
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This is just a match on Dota2 Dreamhack so things are hard to guess

Its actually Dreamleague instead of Dreamhack and I think most teams are actually abit more enthusiastic compared to the last Major. Some teams have already qualified for TI so they probably wouldnt care much about the last Major but every remaining teams want to get to top 2 in this Dreamleague. We are talking about the chance to qualify for the next Riyadh Master for $15M prizepool

Thats almost similar prizepool to the last TI

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June 19, 2023, 05:43:49 PM
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This is just a match on Dota2 Dreamhack so things are hard to guess

Its actually Dreamleague instead of Dreamhack and I think most teams are actually abit more enthusiastic compared to the last Major. Some teams have already qualified for TI so they probably wouldnt care much about the last Major but every remaining teams want to get to top 2 in this Dreamleague. We are talking about the chance to qualify for the next Riyadh Master for $15M prizepool

Thats almost similar prizepool to the last TI
Yes, some teams are more enthusiastic and excited about playing in the Dreamhack match than the last Major, but at least this kind of match still has a final result that is completely unpredictable, different from big tournaments like TI.
You are right that several teams have already qualified for the TI tournament which will be held in October and we can take advantage of this tournament to really get more chances of winning bets.

Even though the Riyadh Master has quite a large prize pool and is almost similar to TI, the TI tournament is the tournament that every team wants to win later on.

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June 19, 2023, 06:07:34 PM
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I don't think npl is the main problem, but of course a better player can be transferred to replace npl.There are obviously some mismatches in the team and I give it to the ego war between them.S1mple is a really good player, but I think he sometimes reflects it badly on his teammates. Of course we don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes, but that's my opinion.NaVi's roster is still top notch, but they don't have the igl to provide enough frag contribution.I'm in favor of transferring hobb1t from C9.It will definitely be a plus for them.

Going for an international player can be really interesting for NaVi. Because they have had a really strict policy about signing only Ukrainian or Russian players into their roster. It looks like they really can't find the one for in-game leader role in these countries. It is hard to predict if this would be good for the team. As long as there isn't any problem on communication with the player to be brought then it is okay.

If I were in their shoes I would have looked for the best in-game leaders in Europe. They really need a solid teamwork to bring back their dominant times.

Even s1mple can't be very consistent regularly these days. This isn't the NaVi team we have known.

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June 19, 2023, 06:18:43 PM
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Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?


It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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June 19, 2023, 10:35:59 PM
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Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?


It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

That is a big thing for esports. The Riyadh Masters already have a huge prize pool, imagine how much more it will get if there is already a dedicated Esports City in Saudi Arabia. It has the potential to be even bigger than the biggest prize pool in TI. It will push Esports to even greater heights. Hopefully, it will become a success because it will cater to a lot of Esports events if that comes to reality.

Even s1mple can't be very consistent regularly these days. This isn't the NaVi team we have known.

He is just human, and he can be inconsistent. And maybe, he is already on the decline in his skills. He has been the top CSGO player for quite some time now, and the fatigue of playing the game must have caught up with him. Younger players have caught up with him and new players are getting better and better.

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June 19, 2023, 11:59:03 PM
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Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?


It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

I'd be thrilled if i'd be able to go there, but unfortunately I can't. It's a lot more closer to me compared to the US or Europe, but then again there are still a lot of requirements for me as a tourist if I were to visit Saudi Arabia just for that. But going back, there'd be a lot of exciting events that could be possibly made on this ambitious project, though hopefully it's accessible to a lot of gamers and not just the ultra-elites.

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June 20, 2023, 01:56:03 AM
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Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?


It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.
It is good news for us Dota watchers, so we get better productions in the future, but unfortunately, not everyone would like this news because a lot of the esports fans previously expressed their hatred for Saudi Arabia whenever they get involved in the competitive scene.

There's also the news about Old G potentially getting disqualified once more because Aramis suddenly left the team, and Old G is close to hitting the match limit that a sub can play for the entire tour.


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Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?


It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

This is very good news in terms of the development of the e-sports sector and more hype.But I can say that the country is a bit bad.Fortunately, this 500 million dollar investment may encourage other countries to establish such a plan by bringing excitement to other countries.E-sports is a sport that is really fun to watch and as exciting as football, and I'm obviously very happy to see such a news.I hope a CS-dominated city will be established Cheesy

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Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?


It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

This is great news for people who can go there without much problem. But I assume so many people wouldn't be very happy this news as the place is too far to themselves. But this kind of huge investments would be expected from especially Saudi Arabia on one hand. In the end they have oil money and they can use it for whatever they want really.

It is at least good that they have decided to spend this amount on a field that has been on the rise for years. Saudi Arabia has a population of 36 million so I wonder how many people are interested in e-sports. In-country participation rate would also be very important for them I guess.

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June 20, 2023, 02:46:32 PM
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Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?


It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

This is great news for people who can go there without much problem. But I assume so many people wouldn't be very happy this news as the place is too far to themselves. But this kind of huge investments would be expected from especially Saudi Arabia on one hand. In the end they have oil money and they can use it for whatever they want really.

It is at least good that they have decided to spend this amount on a field that has been on the rise for years. Saudi Arabia has a population of 36 million so I wonder how many people are interested in e-sports. In-country participation rate would also be very important for them I guess.

These super-rich Middle-Eastern countries are continuously making big moves in order to diversify their investments and as much as possible will become independent from oil in the next years to come.

As rich as Saudi, it is making sure that it has access to nearly all the countries around the globe. Football superstars Ronaldo and Benzema are already playing in Saudi and more are expected to join them. What most people do not like however is the climate and the many restrictions on its laws.

E-sport is a growing sport and Saudi is right on its track. Although it only has a 36 million population, it is expected that it can get television deals from many countries since the top teams and players are there because of the huge prize pool just like the Riyadh Masters.

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June 20, 2023, 10:36:23 PM
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That is a big thing for esports. The Riyadh Masters already have a huge prize pool, imagine how much more it will get if there is already a dedicated Esports City in Saudi Arabia. It has the potential to be even bigger than the biggest prize pool in TI. It will push Esports to even greater heights. Hopefully, it will become a success because it will cater to a lot of Esports events if that comes to reality.
Yeah, it's the biggest prize pool that a tournament will ever held and take note that this isn't even a part of a DPC tournament so no DPC points for the participants. But I guess, this is a good thing that there is this type of tournament so everyone can qualify for the tournament and whoever is gonna be invited on this prestigious tournament. And talking about this city, Saudi Arabia is trying to make their country the center of esports and it's a good investment for sure on their end because they know that the esports industry is a big market that they can take advantage for their tourism and also could be a place for these organization to be their main country for their headquarters.

This is great news for people who can go there without much problem. But I assume so many people wouldn't be very happy this news as the place is too far to themselves. But this kind of huge investments would be expected from especially Saudi Arabia on one hand. In the end they have oil money and they can use it for whatever they want really.

It is at least good that they have decided to spend this amount on a field that has been on the rise for years. Saudi Arabia has a population of 36 million so I wonder how many people are interested in e-sports. In-country participation rate would also be very important for them I guess.
Well, if you've been into esports and watches a lot. Every tournament, event and competitions are held in different countries so there's no far place from these teams, players, organizations and managements. I think it's not about how many people in their country are interested in esports but it's about attracting esports tournaments to be held on their country and get more of the tourism sector and as well as rent for the events place itself.

I'd be thrilled if i'd be able to go there, but unfortunately I can't. It's a lot more closer to me compared to the US or Europe, but then again there are still a lot of requirements for me as a tourist if I were to visit Saudi Arabia just for that. But going back, there'd be a lot of exciting events that could be possibly made on this ambitious project, though hopefully it's accessible to a lot of gamers and not just the ultra-elites.
I'm hoping that I can go there and just be an observer someday but I don't know when exactly it will happen. I think when this is done, they'll put ease to the tourists that has this specific purpose of going there. Hopefully, that they'll like some special process on the tourists who's got that definite purpose of landing to their country.

It is good news for us Dota watchers, so we get better productions in the future, but unfortunately, not everyone would like this news because a lot of the esports fans previously expressed their hatred for Saudi Arabia whenever they get involved in the competitive scene.
I'm optimistic on this because it's the entire esports and this isn't just going to be for the Dota 2 but also other esports that's being competitive in the scene.

There's also the news about Old G potentially getting disqualified once more because Aramis suddenly left the team, and Old G is close to hitting the match limit that a sub can play for the entire tour.


This is painful for the Old G, I guess that they should just give up this team. Isn't it that they've taken a slot by another team for them to be back in division 2?

This is very good news in terms of the development of the e-sports sector and more hype.But I can say that the country is a bit bad.Fortunately, this 500 million dollar investment may encourage other countries to establish such a plan by bringing excitement to other countries.E-sports is a sport that is really fun to watch and as exciting as football, and I'm obviously very happy to see such a news.I hope a CS-dominated city will be established Cheesy
If that happens that other countries invests and do the same thing as what Saudi Arabia is about to do, it's a win for the esports industry. Many will keep on pursuing their esports career even not a main player but just a support staff or with the back end type of jobs. The hype on every tournament is actually very good and noticeable and those crowd shouts aren't just for the typical sports but also in esports.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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Even though the Riyadh Master has quite a large prize pool and is almost similar to TI, the TI tournament is the tournament that every team wants to win later on.
of course. TI is one of the biggest match tournaments in dota 2 with huge prizes so the whole team will fight for the title to get TI dota 2 aegis and of course a huge prize.
from this DPC match we can already predict who has already qualified for TI and who will become the champion of The International dota 2 later. it's not only the dota 2 team that will benefit from the TI tournament later but as bettors we can benefit from betting on this match.

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Even though the Riyadh Master has quite a large prize pool and is almost similar to TI, the TI tournament is the tournament that every team wants to win later on.
of course. TI is one of the biggest match tournaments in dota 2 with huge prizes so the whole team will fight for the title to get TI dota 2 aegis and of course a huge prize.
from this DPC match we can already predict who has already qualified for TI and who will become the champion of The International dota 2 later. it's not only the dota 2 team that will benefit from the TI tournament later but as bettors we can benefit from betting on this match.

I do not think there is already a runaway winner at this point in the upcoming TI. It is very unpredictable and even good teams at majors falter during The International. I do not think anyone has predicted Tundra will be the champion last year or Team Secret will be the second placer after their horrible season. There are strong teams that are favored to win the TI, but no definite team will win it, or else it will be too boring to watch. Team performance in majors does not correlate to TI championship. It is still anybody's ballgame.
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I don't think npl is the main problem, but of course a better player can be transferred to replace npl.There are obviously some mismatches in the team and I give it to the ego war between them.S1mple is a really good player, but I think he sometimes reflects it badly on his teammates. Of course we don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes, but that's my opinion.NaVi's roster is still top notch, but they don't have the igl to provide enough frag contribution.I'm in favor of transferring hobb1t from C9.It will definitely be a plus for them.

You might actually be right about that and I have also been doubting that. Because I watched s1mple's Twitch streams a couple of times before. He was quite bossy against his teammates in FPL games and getting quite angry at them from time to time as well. Hence I think this might not be limited to only his games without his team. Maybe he hasn't been the IGL but I feel confident that he isn't much different than an IGL in team matches. His gestures seen sometimes in tournament games could be a proof for it.

Maybe there isn't a very good weather as for in-team relationships these days. After filling npl's place the coach should focus on that as well.

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June 21, 2023, 02:11:28 PM
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Even though the Riyadh Master has quite a large prize pool and is almost similar to TI, the TI tournament is the tournament that every team wants to win later on.
of course. TI is one of the biggest match tournaments in dota 2 with huge prizes so the whole team will fight for the title to get TI dota 2 aegis and of course a huge prize.
from this DPC match we can already predict who has already qualified for TI and who will become the champion of The International dota 2 later. it's not only the dota 2 team that will benefit from the TI tournament later but as bettors we can benefit from betting on this match.
Yes, you are right and of course we can look for opportunities to get some profit in betting, after all in every match in the TI tournament there is no way to manipulate it so it will make it easier to achieve the goal of winning every bet.
I can't wait for Dota 2 TI's biggest tournament and I'm going to have some money ready to bet on every match that takes place.

Today there were several matches, did you also bet on one of them?
I have two teams that I bet on today's game.

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June 21, 2023, 02:27:04 PM
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Today there were several matches, did you also bet on one of them?
I have two teams that I bet on today's game.


9Panda is giving a good fight against LGD but 9Panda just lacking on early games aggression since they can’t win any lanes to have an early advantage. They can beat LGD if they can make the game in more late game since they have a good hero to kill the backline hero of LGD quickly compared to LGD Ember.

I think you already got this 2 bet of yours since Aster has no sign oh having a recovery on their bad game. They have nothing to gain on winning this match so I guess Gaimin can easily win this match.

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The news of teams transferring and strengthening their teams in the interim period is starting to come one by one.While there is no tournament in this interim period, I want to talk about a few of the teams that want to make good use of this break.Astralis has decided to change both the sports director and analyst by making a radical change.This may actually be a harbinger of a change for them.I can say that they have recently recruited good players but have not achieved success.
In NaVi, it seems likely that there will be a radical change.According to the news that has emerged, it seems that they will try to make the team international.It seems that iM, jL and AleksiB have been transferred to replace NPL, electronic and Perfecto.If this roster becomes a reality, I think it will do a good job.There is definitely an increase in the performance of iM and jL recently.AleksiB can make a really good contribution as an IGL, although he remains weak as a frag.

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June 21, 2023, 04:54:27 PM
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Even though the Riyadh Master has quite a large prize pool and is almost similar to TI, the TI tournament is the tournament that every team wants to win later on.
of course. TI is one of the biggest match tournaments in dota 2 with huge prizes so the whole team will fight for the title to get TI dota 2 aegis and of course a huge prize.
from this DPC match we can already predict who has already qualified for TI and who will become the champion of The International dota 2 later. it's not only the dota 2 team that will benefit from the TI tournament later but as bettors we can benefit from betting on this match.
Definitely that TI is still the best of these all tournaments, it's like the grandest and most awaited tournament not just by fans but of course by most of the players and teams.

But what if by after this upcoming TI, Valve will decide and will have a talk with the Saudi Arabian government that they should strengthen their relations towards this event and it's gonna be a yearly with also an increasing prize pool just as TI.

Or there could be some twist that Valve decides it to be part of the DPC season and will also give out DPC points before the TI but this isn't applicable for this year.

I am talking about the possibility of what can happen by next year when these tournaments are done and all of them resulted into a satisfying ending for which will make the Saudi government and Valve to keep up with more tournaments.



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