🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[arallmuus]

That lower bracket finals from Tundra went as expected and props to Quest for the free odds. Even though they dropped a map it felt like they trolled in the second map by picking TB support after that, they went back to serious mode in map three.

As expected. If I could place an outright bet for the qualifiers, I would have gone straight for Tundra and Entity but yeah too bad we couldnt. These two are literally the best team on the qualifiers. OG and Team Secret was probably going to flop somehow as I expected them to be

Anyway, There isnt going to be any top tier tournaments or qualifiers left until Riyadh isnt it? so anything good on cs2?

Thanks and yes, there's not much interesting going on within the next few weeks for Dota while CS2 is in the offseason with the roster shuffles.

I used to always enjoy these kind of weeks with no major tournament because most teams usually shuffle their rosters before the next season begun but with the changes from Valve, its no longer enjoyable for me as teams are free to replace anyone without any penalty. Well its limited to 1 player but still its kinda weird for a team to make all those changes anytime they want when it doesnt work out

I used to love this but now its getting kinda boring atleast for me

[ralle14]

I used to always enjoy these kind of weeks with no major tournament because most teams usually shuffle their rosters before the next season begun but with the changes from Valve, its no longer enjoyable for me as teams are free to replace anyone without any penalty. Well its limited to 1 player but still its kinda weird for a team to make all those changes anytime they want when it doesnt work out

I used to love this but now its getting kinda boring atleast for me

I somewhat agree, it's mostly enjoyable after the biggest tournaments like TI, but for the CS2 scene there's barely any break and I think this is the most they usually get.

Those frequent changes seem fine to me even though I like teams sticking together until the end, it's for the better when players and teams have an alternative option than being forced to stay throughout the whole season.

[emrecemsan]

These days are quite silent in terms of a big tournament in CS2. However as of mid July, we are going to have a lot of fun. 


_{Source: https://www.hltv.org/events/7732/esports-world-cup-2024}

The first tournament is one of the biggest events I have ever seen in this game. Saudi Arabia invested a lot of money (if I'm not wrong, billions of dollars  ) into e-sports industry. They are going big with it as they see that it is a growing industry. We are going to watch many well-known strong teams in this tournament as well.


_{Source: https://www.hltv.org/events/7847/skyesports-championship-2024}

It looks like India also wants to do something here as I don't remember them being active that much. It is nice to see Eternal Fire here but I wish they were a part of the tournament in Riyadh too. 

[arallmuus]

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Those frequent changes seem fine to me even though I like teams sticking together until the end, it's for the better when players and teams have an alternative option than being forced to stay throughout the whole season.

Well speaking of sticking together, Team Spirit was rumoured to be replacing 1-2 players because they kept losing back then but now it seems that they are already back in track. I really wish they win another TI, there hasnt been anyone that won TI 3 times isnt it and yeah imagine that Yatoro getting his 3rd Aegis before even hitting the age of 22. Dude is super talented

_{Source: https://www.hltv.org/events/7732/esports-world-cup-2024}

Wait what, only $1M?

Alot of cs2 tournament has $1M prizepool as well and I thought this esport worldcup tournament would atleast help them get to $2.5M prizepool atleast. Even dota2 has $5M prizepool and I thought cs2 is like top 3 most popular esports

[passwordnow]

Not that a lot of good games we have this time as TI qualifiers has ended. But this time, there's the Elite League Season 2 closed qualifier. I've bet for the WEU region as there's nothing interesting really on this and both for EEU. I chose the Mouz and Dandelions matchup. Despite that there's the low odds for the Mouz, I've chosen them because they seem to be the team that I know how to play on this qualifier although the others are good too.



Both of these regions are the two slots remaining for the Elite League Season 2 that will happen on Lima next month.

[ralle14]

I really wish they win another TI, there hasnt been anyone that won TI 3 times isnt it and yeah imagine that Yatoro getting his 3rd Aegis before even hitting the age of 22. Dude is super talented

If the outright markets for TI are already out, they're probably one of the teams with the best odds together with Team Falcons and Xtreme Gaming.

Both of these regions are the two slots remaining for the Elite League Season 2 that will happen on Lima next month.

Nice choice to avoid the handicap on the MOUZ series and congrats on the win.

There's not much info about the upcoming season of Elite League, but I guess we'll be seeing a lot of teams similar to the previous season since there are only a few notable teams in the regional qualifiers.

[passwordnow]

I've won this bet:

Both of these regions are the two slots remaining for the Elite League Season 2 that will happen on Lima next month.

Nice choice to avoid the handicap on the MOUZ series and congrats on the win.

Thanks, Mouz's is going to be up against with Team Tea which has got some notable players as well but I'd skip that match.

There's not much info about the upcoming season of Elite League, but I guess we'll be seeing a lot of teams similar to the previous season since there are only a few notable teams in the regional qualifiers.

Two slots left and they're going to be from EEU and WEU, only 6 teams will participate for their season 2.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Elite_League/2


As I skip the other games for this Elite League, I've checked out the 1win series summer. It's about Team Spirit and Nigma Galaxy.
I'd take the gamble with Nigma Galaxy, I know that Team Spirit is strong but I can't avoid the odds and maybe some twist from them might happen.

[passwordnow]

As I skip the other games for this Elite League, I've checked out the 1win series summer. It's about Team Spirit and Nigma Galaxy.
I'd take the gamble with Nigma Galaxy, I know that Team Spirit is strong but I can't avoid the odds and maybe some twist from them might happen.

As expected, I've bet against Team Spirit for Nigma Galaxy despite that I know that they're already far behind on the meta and they're oldies now of the league. Team Spirit won and my bet has lost. That's fine, I'll recover and will bet better next time. No major league/tournament for this week but on July 4, the Riyadh Masters is going to lock and start!

[emrecemsan]

Wait what, only $1M?

Alot of cs2 tournament has $1M prizepool as well and I thought this esport worldcup tournament would atleast help them get to $2.5M prizepool atleast. Even dota2 has $5M prizepool and I thought cs2 is like top 3 most popular esports

I absolutely agree. After making a billion dollar investment into this industry how can they create a prize pool of 1 million dollars?

Normally the biggest e-sports tournaments are IEMs and Majors in CS2. 1 million dollars is the highest number I have seen for them so far. This disappointed me too as a result. But maybe later on Saudi Arabia would realize the importance of this. With a bigger prize pool they can attract more attention than other tournaments. They have the money for that so what's this lack of will?  

[ralle14]

Normally the biggest e-sports tournaments are IEMs and Majors in CS2. 1 million dollars is the highest number I have seen for them so far. This disappointed me too as a result. But maybe later on Saudi Arabia would realize the importance of this. With a bigger prize pool they can attract more attention than other tournaments. They have the money for that so what's this lack of will?  

Still, even with the $1m prize pool, CS2 easily brings in a lot of viewership. Who knows maybe their organizer (ESL) prioritizes the other recurring tournaments like ESL Pro League and IEM tournaments. Or maybe the higher-ups simply favor Dota more, similar to Valve having favorites.

I'm dipping into a bit of League since the LCK summer standings are looking interesting with T1 sitting in the middle of the pack. In the second series later today, we'll have two teams with good form going against one another so I expect to see a three-map banger.

[sunsilk]

The tournament of 1win series dota 2 summer was done yesterday. The champion that have won $50k in cash prize belongs to Team Spirit.

Yes, they've won this tournament and it may not be that much. In an interview, I think one of them said that they're not in full form for this tournament and they're on the experimental period.

But come on, they've won and beat the other strong teams too despite that this is a tournament that could test some of their new strategies ready for Riyadh Masters and TI.

[ralle14]

Yes, they've won this tournament and it may not be that much. In an interview, I think one of them said that they're not in full form for this tournament and they're on the experimental period.

But come on, they've won and beat the other strong teams too despite that this is a tournament that could test some of their new strategies ready for Riyadh Masters and TI.

In that tournament, i'd say Team Spirit and Gaimin Gladiators are the only two strong teams. Entity and the rest could close into their level, but there's still a decent gap given both semis ended in a sweep.

If that's out of form to the Team Spirit players, i'm looking forward to the performance they'll be dishing out during the Riyadh Masters once they're fully prepared. 

[len01]

As expected, I've bet against Team Spirit for Nigma Galaxy despite that I know that they're already far behind on the meta and they're oldies now of the league. Team Spirit won and my bet has lost. That's fine, I'll recover and will bet better next time. No major league/tournament for this week but on July 4, the Riyadh Masters is going to lock and start!

Sorry to hear about your loss but I'm curious why you took such a big risk betting on Nigma? Meanwhile, as far as I know, TS is one of the teams that relies on playing speed.
What I know before I quit following Dota 2, TS was one of the teams that was feared at that time or maybe I was too far behind regarding the latest information?

BTW, regarding the Riyadh Masters tournament there is an interesting first match between G2.IG vs Entity. What do you think, does Entity still have a chance of winning faster in the first match? I think yes

[ralle14]

Sorry to hear about your loss but I'm curious why you took such a big risk betting on Nigma? Meanwhile, as far as I know, TS is one of the teams that relies on playing speed.
What I know before I quit following Dota 2, TS was one of the teams that was feared at that time or maybe I was too far behind regarding the latest information?

I'd assume it's because of the group stage format being a bo1, they could catch Team Spirit off guard, and with those odds, it's understandable to go for the risky play.

You're not that far behind when it comes to Team Spirit and the current competitive scene, they're still one of the scariest teams together with the other two(Team Falcons and Xtreme Gaming).

BTW, regarding the Riyadh Masters tournament there is an interesting first match between G2.IG vs Entity. What do you think, does Entity still have a chance of winning faster in the first match? I think yes

I'd give them a high probability of getting one map, most teams aim for a draw and avoid losing 0-2.

[sunsilk]

Yes, they've won this tournament and it may not be that much. In an interview, I think one of them said that they're not in full form for this tournament and they're on the experimental period.

But come on, they've won and beat the other strong teams too despite that this is a tournament that could test some of their new strategies ready for Riyadh Masters and TI.

In that tournament, i'd say Team Spirit and Gaimin Gladiators are the only two strong teams. Entity and the rest could close into their level, but there's still a decent gap given both semis ended in a sweep.

If that's out of form to the Team Spirit players, i'm looking forward to the performance they'll be dishing out during the Riyadh Masters once they're fully prepared. 

I think that's like the practice yard that they have for the Riyadh masters and we're about to see that tomorrow.

Team Spirit is still in good shape despite winning two ti's and they're still in tact, the 4 that have taken their first aegis. So, if OG and Team Spirit did already made history.

I guess that they can make another one for themselves and if they both made two ti aegis, why not make it three for Team Spirit?

[ralle14]

I think that's like the practice yard that they have for the Riyadh masters and we're about to see that tomorrow.

They won't play tomorrow, they'll be skipping the play-ins since they are already qualified through EPT points. According to the schedule, we'll get to see them play next week.

For tomorrow's matches, i've gone for the underdogs (G2.IG and Virtus.Pro) to take a map, both odds are around 1.30 to 1.45. I could've added more legs, but two is my limit for now to test the waters.

[sunsilk]

I think that's like the practice yard that they have for the Riyadh masters and we're about to see that tomorrow.

They won't play tomorrow, they'll be skipping the play-ins since they are already qualified through EPT points. According to the schedule, we'll get to see them play next week.

Yeah, I checked the lists of the teams and they're going to skip the play in as they're secured in the group stages, thanks for the correction.

For tomorrow's matches, i've gone for the underdogs (G2.IG and Virtus.Pro) to take a map, both odds are around 1.30 to 1.45. I could've added more legs, but two is my limit for now to test the waters.

G2.IG seems to be not that favored at all this time but they're strong. The same with Virtus.Pro, they're consistent into participating in these big tournaments.

Hope you win.

[len01]

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I'd give them a high probability of getting one map, most teams aim for a draw and avoid losing 0-2.

Thank you for the information you provide.
After considering everything and to be honest I have to adapt more deeply into Dota 2, I will take a smaller risk to bet on each map.

I have always preferred to bet on total kills or map duration and I only remember that Entity has a team strength that is always solid and goes to war more often.
And for LGD vs Virtus, as far as I remember these two teams always had big ambitions in every match (but I believe LGD will be more successful)

And finally, to be honest, I don't really like Blacklist and Beastcoast, but I tried placing a bet to see how strong these two teams are.

[ralle14]

Hope you win.

Thanks, the parlay cashed after most of the games yesterday ended with each team winning a map.

And finally, to be honest, I don't really like Blacklist and Beastcoast, but I tried placing a bet to see how strong these two teams are.

I also had low expectations from those two but after today's results, i'm taking the risk before the odds get adjusted in the next few days.

I saw this draw @2.4 between beastcoast vs. Entity as one of the highest out of all the matches scheduled later today. I don't think Entity should be this high of a favorite even though they've been delivering some good results recently.

[arallmuus]

Its too bad that you didnt win this. I probably would have taken this as well given that Beastcoast managed to get two draws yesterday especially after they lost the 1st map. Its pretty rough as always on bo2 games, the games are totally unpredictable and its kinda weird. I personally still lean on taking draws on bo2 games but its kinda weird to even watch the game expecting draws lol. I'd rather support a team to win rather than hoping for draws

Anyway, two china region teams on group A seems to be having hard time winning their game so far