🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[arallmuus]

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Before I bet on Team Falcons, I do hope my ticket on OG (@1.50) survives, I still think they're a level higher than PSG.Quest who barely got through in their groups.

Well obviously no one in their sane mind would even predicted OG to lose against PSG.Quest huh. There are like tons of unpredicted results in the playoffs, I cant even wrap my head around it. I noticed that 9-12th placement paid $100k while 7-8th placement will pay $200k so thats like 100% increment so yeah most teams probably gave their best strat on this, gotta earn as many as they could before dropping out

Tundra was the winner of the TI 11 at the time and so far it is very difficult to defeat. TL only has a small chance and I predict at least will end over 2.5

Well Liquid won the 1st map so Tundra need to step up on the 2nd map to for it to be over 2.5 maps. Overall the match are pretty interesting and I hope you guys are watching it

[passwordnow]

I have bet for Tundra, I guess that all of us agrees that even Team Liquid upset Team Spirit, Tundra is still the better team but we'll see. We need to watch Team Falcons first and GG end their game.

Tundra was the winner of the TI 11 at the time and so far it is very difficult to defeat. TL only has a small chance and I predict at least will end over 2.5

Sadly, they've lost against Team Liquid. I'm not sure what made them think of the same heroes from map 2 and map 3. Anyway, if they lose, my bet also lose. 

My first bet is a lose.  

Calm down dude, there are still two games left that can cover your losses.

0-3 for this day. That's okay as this is what a gambler's life is. 

And for Falcons vs GG, map 1 I managed to get a win from my bet and this is my prediction on map 2.

I should have bet for these kind of bets instead of going on with match winner. I'll try maybe later, we still have 3 games later and all of them from lower bracket.

[ralle14]

The only thing safe at this point is the over for the total maps played because every series earlier went all three maps.  

Well obviously no one in their sane mind would even predicted OG to lose against PSG.Quest huh.

PSG.Quest's draft was too good in the final map, and Tiny's damage output is so bonkers no matter how tanky you itemize your hero you'll still get chunked down by the combo.

There's also Gaimin Gladiators sending Team Falcons down to the lower bracket. The teams waiting down there are so stacked that I can't believe we could potentially have a Team Spirit vs. Team Falcons matchup in the next round.

[passwordnow]

The only thing safe at this point is the over for the total maps played because every series earlier went all three maps.  

Right but I can't help myself to pick with the match/series winners. By the way, we've got three matches for today but I have bet for two because the last one will still be deciding for the winner of BetBoom and Xtreme gaming, the winner gets to face Tundra Esports. Hopefully that I get even one win for today, yesterday was a bad beat. Good luck everyone, first game is starting in less than 2 hours from typing this.

[ralle14]

Hopefully that I get even one win for today, yesterday was a bad beat. Good luck everyone, first game is starting in less than 2 hours from typing this.

Your Team Spirit ticket should cash at the minimum, they won't go down that easily like in the Team Liquid series and the worst case is for the series to go to a third map. I'm even thinking of taking their map handicap as that's how i'm confident on them to beat PSG.Quest.

The BetBoom vs. Xtreme Gaming series depends on BetBoom clutching up for the second time and h2h results are leaning on their side.

[passwordnow]

Hopefully that I get even one win for today, yesterday was a bad beat. Good luck everyone, first game is starting in less than 2 hours from typing this.

Your Team Spirit ticket should cash at the minimum, they won't go down that easily like in the Team Liquid series and the worst case is for the series to go to a third map. I'm even thinking of taking their map handicap as that's how i'm confident on them to beat PSG.Quest.

Yeah, I trust more Team Spirit. They've proven already themselves and although they've won 2 TIs already and Riyadh Masters last year, I fairly think that they're still consistent even up to this moment. It's hard to maintain that state because we've seen how the former OG and Nigma squad became weaker over the period of time after winning lots of major tournaments. Put that bet, the match is about to start in a few.

The BetBoom vs. Xtreme Gaming series depends on BetBoom clutching up for the second time and h2h results are leaning on their side.

Fortunately, BetBoom won and my bet as well. They're gonna face Tundra later after Team Spirit and PSG.Quest match.

[len01]

Well Liquid won the 1st map so Tundra need to step up on the 2nd map to for it to be over 2.5 maps. Overall the match are pretty interesting and I hope you guys are watching it

My prediction is actually true but unfortunately I fell asleep when watching on map 1 and only had time to bet on map 1. If only I didn't sleep, maybe on map 2 I'd bet on over 2.5.

0-3 for this day. That's okay as this is what a gambler's life is.  

It's okay, I'm sure you can win 3 matches today.

I should have bet for these kind of bets instead of going on with match winner. I'll try maybe later, we still have 3 games later and all of them from lower bracket.

Keep doing your own analysis mate. Don't follow my betting style because it's too risky.

I missed to bet on TS vs PSG and chose to wait for Tundra vs BB.

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[passwordnow]

0-3 for this day. That's okay as this is what a gambler's life is.  

It's okay, I'm sure you can win 3 matches today.

I'm done for today, just 1-1. 

I should have bet for these kind of bets instead of going on with match winner. I'll try maybe later, we still have 3 games later and all of them from lower bracket.

Keep doing your own analysis mate. Don't follow my betting style because it's too risky.

I bet like that in the past week or so and I've won more with that I guess, IIRC.

I missed to bet on TS vs PSG and chose to wait for Tundra vs BB.

Lucky you are, I have bet for TS there but then surprisingly PSG.Quest won. Tundra and BetBoom are currently 1-1, I've skipped to bet on this game and will look forward for the matches tomorrow.

[arallmuus]

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My prediction is actually true but unfortunately I fell asleep when watching on map 1 and only had time to bet on map 1. If only I didn't sleep, maybe on map 2 I'd bet on over 2.5.

I've never actually bet over 2.5 maps after the 1st map ( well atleast not that I remember ), how good is the odds though? It should be way lower than pre bet isnt it? I personally think that taking over 2.5 maps on pre-bet seems to be just way optimal way to bet if you are pretty sure that the game is going to be over 2.5 maps


Anyway Tundra won against BB, quite expected and this is just crazy. We have GG and Team Liquid on upper bracket, we also will probably have falcons and Tundra on lower bracket. Well Falcons need to win tomorrow against PSG.Quest for this scenario to happen but seriously, how would they even lose against PSG.Quest

[ralle14]

I've never actually bet over 2.5 maps after the 1st map ( well atleast not that I remember ), how good is the odds though? It should be way lower than pre bet isnt it? I personally think that taking over 2.5 maps on pre-bet seems to be just way optimal way to bet if you are pretty sure that the game is going to be over 2.5 maps

From what I recall, it's usually similar to the live +1.5 map handicap and sometimes they go down to 1.65 - 1.40 depending on who wins the first map.

Well Falcons need to win tomorrow against PSG.Quest for this scenario to happen but seriously, how would they even lose against PSG.Quest

They'll be in danger if they pick something unusual again like that Huskar on ATF and if they allow PSG.Quest to get the heroes they wanted, in the Team Spirit series it was the SK and Naga cores going through on maps two and three.

[passwordnow]

Anyway Tundra won against BB, quite expected and this is just crazy. We have GG and Team Liquid on upper bracket, we also will probably have falcons and Tundra on lower bracket. Well Falcons need to win tomorrow against PSG.Quest for this scenario to happen but seriously, how would they even lose against PSG.Quest

I have skipped that Tundra and BB but most likely I have won that then because I'd go for Tundra anyway it was intended by me to skip that match. And speaking of GG and Team Liquid, we all knew that GG is the kryptonite of Team Liquid but they're able to prove themselves on this tournament and let's see if that had changed already or it still remains. I'd go with Gaimin Gladiators, most of the odds aren't that good except if you'd choose PSG.Quest over Team Falcons for which I am not willing to gamble there, also other betting types aren't favorable to me so this is it for today.

[len01]

Lucky you are, I have bet for TS there but then surprisingly PSG.Quest won. Tundra and BetBoom are currently 1-1, I've skipped to bet on this game and will look forward for the matches tomorrow.

Looks like in Riyadh it's harder to predict and easier to forecast in the IT competition.
Like yesterday's TL vs Tundra game I thought Tundra would win but it turns out TL could get win and after that TS vs PSG that surprised me even though I didn't bet on this game.

But it's all right, 1–1 is a good result and we still have a pretty good game today.

Lower Bracket

Falcons vs PSG.
This match was supposed to be the Falcons who had to win but PSG proved that they were more confident after beating TS. I'm going to choose over 2.5 and also have other options that I'll update later.


Upper Bracket

GG vs TL
Honestly this game is hard on prediction because GG sometimes gives surprises and for me TL has a chance too and I hope today's game ends over 2.5

I've never actually bet over 2.5 maps after the 1st map ( well atleast not that I remember ), how good is the odds though? It should be way lower than pre bet isnt it? I personally think that taking over 2.5 maps on pre-bet seems to be just way optimal way to bet if you are pretty sure that the game is going to be over 2.5 maps

Just as @ralle14 says it all depends on which team has the first win and also the total kill when the game is going on.

As I remember, the odds were around @1.8+ when the total kill of Tundra and TL was almost equal on map 2.

[Coin_trader]

I've never actually bet over 2.5 maps after the 1st map ( well atleast not that I remember ), how good is the odds though? It should be way lower than pre bet isnt it? I personally think that taking over 2.5 maps on pre-bet seems to be just way optimal way to bet if you are pretty sure that the game is going to be over 2.5 maps

Just as @ralle14 says it all depends on which team has the first win and also the total kill when the game is going on.

As I remember, the odds were around @1.8+ when the total kill of Tundra and TL was almost equal on map 2.

It’s not depending on the total kills for the odds to raise on a bet related to map win count. It’s always based to the gold advantage of the team since there’s a scenario that a team with high kill count is behind in terms of gold or just breakeven since they are just killing supports while the carry can farm freely without any kills.

Also to clarify about depending the team who get the first win. It only means that the odds will increase if the underdog team get the W on the first map because most likely bookmakers assume that the favorite team will get the first map win.

[Beparanf]

Lower Bracket

Falcons vs PSG.
This match was supposed to be the Falcons who had to win but PSG proved that they were more confident after beating TS. I'm going to choose over 2.5 and also have other options that I'll update later.


Upper Bracket

GG vs TL
Honestly this game is hard on prediction because GG sometimes gives surprises and for me TL has a chance too and I hope today's game ends over 2.5

You’ve got 1-1 on this pick. I have high hopes that TL can beat GG or at least get 1 map but they are always outplayed on the laning phase especially 33 that always late on item timing. TL always has a weak start which GG always capitalize until the end.

TF vs Quest is more entertaining to watch due to the close match. It’s sad for Quest they can’t do the revenge match against Falcon that always gatekeeping them on every major tournament. ATF is very strong if he gets his comfort here but still Kudos to Quest for giving a promising fight against TF.

[Trofo]

Lower Bracket

Falcons vs PSG.
This match was supposed to be the Falcons who had to win but PSG proved that they were more confident after beating TS. I'm going to choose over 2.5 and also have other options that I'll update later.


Upper Bracket

GG vs TL
Honestly this game is hard on prediction because GG sometimes gives surprises and for me TL has a chance too and I hope today's game ends over 2.5

You’ve got 1-1 on this pick. I have high hopes that TL can beat GG or at least get 1 map but they are always outplayed on the laning phase especially 33 that always late on item timing. TL always has a weak start which GG always capitalize until the end.

TF vs Quest is more entertaining to watch due to the close match. It’s sad for Quest they can’t do the revenge match against Falcon that always gatekeeping them on every major tournament. ATF is very strong if he gets his comfort here but still Kudos to Quest for giving a promising fight against TF.

I have been following DOTA a lot this last week but still got totally wrong read on games today. Liquid was improving and playing quite well and I was sure they can take one map from GG. Falcons also started slow into the tournament but they were playing better and better and I thought easy 2:0 should be the result today. Ah, well, hopefully it will go better tomorrow,

[Wapfika]

Falcons is already 1 win away to semi finals against Tundra. I thought Tundra already got game 1 since MK has total map control due to  mobility yet Falcon manage to win all the team fights due to their vision provided by the wards of weaver which is everywhere.

I don’t understand why BM is still being pick as offlane hero while it’s contested pick most of the time and low winning rate so far. I’m not updated on the patch but it seems like BM is very hard to win a lane. I watch many games today that BM is struggling early games.

[Beparanf]

I have been following DOTA a lot this last week but still got totally wrong read on games today. Liquid was improving and playing quite well and I was sure they can take one map from GG. Falcons also started slow into the tournament but they were playing better and better and I thought easy 2:0 should be the result today. Ah, well, hopefully it will go better tomorrow,

Watching Liquid is very painful because 33 not performing well which Liquid has high expectation to the space he should create but it turns out that his lane is always the weakest and needs frequent visit since dyrcho keeps dominating him badly. If 33 performs better, Liquid has better chance to get at least 1 map. GG is indeed the achilles heel of Liquid in every tournament. They can’t past this team no matter what they do.

Same with Quest to Falcons. This team’s game play is a natural counter. Lol

[arallmuus]

and I thought easy 2:0 should be the result today. Ah, well, hopefully it will go better tomorrow,

Falcons actually won 2-0 but its against Tundra. Pure made a silly mistake on the 2nd map which ended the game afterward, if only he didnt then it could easily go off to the 3rd map. Imagine farming all the way until 50 minutes only to commit silly mistake that cost the game, this would put a stain on his career history


So Team Liquid - Falcons tomorrow for the first game. This totally screams over 2.5 maps but once Falcons finds their momentum on the 1st map, it could be easily 0-2 for them again but either way Im betting on GG for the final

[passwordnow]

I have been following DOTA a lot this last week but still got totally wrong read on games today. Liquid was improving and playing quite well and I was sure they can take one map from GG.

That's okay, there's an history about GG and Team Liquid. In the past several tournaments, GG always dominated Team Liquid, whether it's in the finals or semis. And like their match today, GG won 2-0.

Falcons also started slow into the tournament but they were playing better and better and I thought easy 2:0 should be the result today. Ah, well, hopefully it will go better tomorrow,

They're able to take out Tundra for 2-0, this is the typical Team Falcons that we know but it's unfortunate they have their route through the lower bracket but still, three teams remaining. As GG awaits in the grand finals, Team Liquid and Team Falcons tomorrow for the semi finals.

Lucky me, won this only bet for this day although the odd isn't a lot but I'd take the W. 

[ralle14]

Lucky me, won this only bet for this day although the odd isn't a lot but I'd take the W. 

I also had a ticket on Gaimin Gladiators and they saved me from going winless.

After that beatdown from Gaimin Gladiators, i'll gladly take Team Falcons to beat Team Liquid in the lower bracket final. If Team Liquid can't get a map against Gaimin Gladiators yesterday regardless of the good heroes they've drafted, I don't see them bouncing back in this series to set a rematch in the final.