'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"'

[suchmoon]

Socialism and communism should be banned and any followers should be imprisoned and re-educated.

I don't know if you were trying to be funny but that's what authoritarian regimes - often communist regimes - do with dissidents. It never really ends well in the long term.

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[coins4commies]

Its not an organization at all.  North Korea on the other hand is a place with a state and a list of government officials and governing documents.    If a group of fascists call themselves "antifa" that doesn't mean they are antifa.  It means they are liars.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456
They were never antifa.  They were posing.

(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that—

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

(B) appear to be intended—

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

-The police in several cities using tear gas to make protests go away is terrorism by definition

-Trump's threats to use the military against the will of the states to crackdown on protesters would be terrorism by definition.

[cryptoperkele]

Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

I can call myself a WW2 veteran just like I can call myself an "antifascist". That doesn't magically make me either one of those things.

This comparison doesn't make sense in any level.

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ANTIFA does in fact have leaders, organizations, and spokesman as I have already documented.

No you haven't. Did you even read what i said? Do i need to repeat myself?

literally anyone opposing fascists can call themselves antifa

Network isn't a same thing as organization, and is that antifa merchandise supposed to be a proof of some kind? Proof of what?
That i can just make and sell my own antifa gear?

Anyway this was just another outburst and a weak gesture from Trump trying to distract our attention to elsewhere. And (should i lend the term) "useful idiots" will eat it up.

[TECSHARE]

Its not an organization at all.  North Korea on the other hand is a place with a state and a list of government officials and governing documents.    If a group of fascists call themselves "antifa" that doesn't mean they are antifa.  It means they are liars.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456
They were never antifa.  They were posing.

(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that—

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

(B) appear to be intended—

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

-The police in several cities using tear gas to make protests go away is terrorism by definition

-Trump's threats to use the military against the will of the states to crackdown on protesters would be terrorism by definition.

Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

I can call myself a WW2 veteran just like I can call myself an "antifascist". That doesn't magically make me either one of those things.

This comparison doesn't make sense in any level.

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ANTIFA does in fact have leaders, organizations, and spokesman as I have already documented.

No you haven't. Did you even read what i said? Do i need to repeat myself?

literally anyone opposing fascists can call themselves antifa

Network isn't a same thing as organization, and is that antifa merchandise supposed to be a proof of some kind? Proof of what?
That i can just make and sell my own antifa gear?

Anyway this was just another outburst and a weak gesture from Trump trying to distract our attention to elsewhere. And (should i lend the term) "useful idiots" will eat it up.

These aren't protests any more, they are riots. Protesters obey the law. These are mobs of people murdering, beating people, looting, and burning shit. I did in fact document that they are an organization. I noticed you skipped over the rest of my sources to focus on tshirts.

ANTIFA is not an organization.

It is most certainly organized. It has a regional cellular structure with high level organization and funding not only from actors like George Soros, but also the CCP via "Confucius Institute" fronts operating out of colleges all over the nation.



"China Encouraging BLM ANTIFA Rioters Across U.S. Cities" https://www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/37236-intelligence-china-encouraging-blm-antifa-rioters-across-u-s-cities.html



"Pentagon to End Language Funding for Universities That Host Chinese Communist Party–Funded Confucius Institutes"

https://www.newsweek.com/confucius-institute-pentagon-communist-chinese-1406772



"Universities report $1 billion in previously hidden foreign funding after feds threaten investigations"

https://www.thecollegefix.com/universities-report-1-billion-in-previously-hidden-foreign-funding-after-feds-threaten-investigations/



"Donors of Anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ Group Revealed (Center for Community Change -- 2015)"

https://www.scribd.com/document/360602355/Donors-of-Anti-Trump-Resistance-Group-Revealed-Center-for-Community-Change-2015



"China's Foreign Ministry Tweets "I Can't Breathe!"

As America's Rivals Troll US Over Unrest" https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-foreign-ministry-tweets-i-cant-breath-us-rivals-troll-us-over-unrest



"America is Under Attack by 187 Groups Funded by George Soros"

https://humansarefree.com/2017/04/america-is-under-attack-by-187-groups-funded-by-george-soros.html



"Greta’s Parents Pictured in Antifa Gear & She Raised Funds for Antifa-supporting Organisation in Europe"

https://humansarefree.com/2019/09/gretas-parents-pictured-in-antifa-gear-she-raised-funds-for-antifa-supporting-organisation-in-europe.html



"Billionaire George Soros spent $33MILLION bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators to create 'echo chamber' and drive national protests"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html



"Liberal Money’s Longterm Strategy To Control Public Opinion And Secure ‘Advantageous’ Demographics"

https://dailycaller.com/2016/11/02/revealed-liberal-moneys-longterm-strategy-to-control-public-opinion-and-secure-advantageous-demographics/



"Soros-Funded Militant Group Claims ‘German Contingent’ At G20 Protests"

https://dailycaller.com/2017/07/07/soros-funded-militant-group-claims-german-contingent-at-g20-protests/

There is no member list.

Of course they don't publish member lists, they are a criminal organization. There are however member lists.



"LIST OF ALL CONFIRMED ANTIFA MEMBERS!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RehiI0BwV88




"Antifa sets up recruitment shop at University of Florida"

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13767



"Antifa Is Arming Itself Against a Trump Crackdown"

https://newrepublic.com/article/154110/antifa-arming-trump-crackdown



"Socialist Rifle Association – DC Metro"

https://sra-dc.org



"'Antifa' movement in Phoenix: What it is, and why officials fear it"

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/10/09/antifa-movement-phoenix-what-you-need-to-know/700415001/



"Rose City Antifa"

https://www.rosecityantifa.org



"By Any Means Necessary"

http://www.bamn.com



"George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action" https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/



"Donors of Anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ Group Revealed"

https://freebeacon.com/politics/donors-anti-trump-resistance-group-revealed/



"Black Lives Matter: Produced by George Soros"

https://humansarefree.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-produced-by-george-soros.html



http://www.disruptj20.org/

No training or practices.

They certainly do have training and a very clear modus operandi.



https://www.redneckrevolt.org/



"Forming An Antifa Group: A Manual"

https://itsgoingdown.org/forming-an-antifa-group-a-manual/

it simply means- "Anti Fascist" so now anyone who opposes fascism can be labeled as a terrorist, stripped of all rights and held without trial.

This is the classic PR response that people enabling these terrorists seek to parrot. This is little more than a marketing slogan to cover for their international terrorist and criminal activities. ANTIFA itself fits the profile of a fascist organization itself all the while constantly acting as if they are against it.



"Liberals cheer as antifa violence escalates"

https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/



"Armed 'anarchist and anti-fascist' attempted to firebomb ICE facility in Tacoma, killed in confrontation with police"

https://www.theblaze.com/news/terror-armed-antifa-member-attempts-to-firebomb-ice-facility-in-washington-is-killed-in-confrontation-with-police



"Watch as Antifa Member Shot To Death After Drawing on Police"

https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/watch-antifa-member-shot-death-drawing-police



"A Communist & Anarchist Movement That Explicitly Endorses Violence"

https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/antifa/



""Far-Left Or Anarchists" - Intelligence Reports ID Rioting Protesters; Mostly Locals Arrested"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-are-outsiders-minneapolis-officials-blame-white-supremacist-terror-cells-rioting



"Look Who Funds The Group Behind The Call To Arms At Milo’s Berkeley Event"

https://dailycaller.com/2017/02/03/look-who-funds-the-group-behind-the-call-to-arms-at-milos-berkeley-event/



"Anarchist Extremists: Antifa"

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54d79f88e4b0db3478a04405/t/591b46fad1758ef3d2ed8d2f/1494959867234/Anarchist+Extremists+-+Antifa.pdf



"Why I Joined Antifa, and Why I Left—Gabriel Nadales [CPAC 2020] | American Thought Leaders"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yga9cwCImXc



"Andy Ngo: Breaking Down Antifa Violence & Extremism [TPUSA Special] | American Thought Leaders"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGTliKNQ2g8



"Antifa Origins & Tactics Exposed, After Andy Ngo’s Assault At Portland Protest—Jack Posobiec"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0YWWiSicw

[Spendulus]

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Anyway this was just another outburst and a weak gesture from Trump trying to distract our attention to elsewhere. And (should i lend the term) "useful idiots" will eat it up.

Huh?

The "weak gestures" are from liberal governors who let cities burn.

Trump said if they wouldn't stop it, he would.

[TwitchySeal]

These aren't protests any more, they are riots. Protesters obey the law.

There are riots.  And there are protests.  Just because there are riots does not make the protests not protests anymore.

Protesters obey the law.

Not always.  Probably the most well known example is MLK being arrested for protesting in the 60s.
Another example: in LA the other day there were hundreds of people protesting.  The cops declared it an unlawful assembly and gave everyone a chance to leave. Many simply sat down and waited their turn to be arrested.  No violence, no looting, just protesting after being told to stop.  Civil disobedience is one way to protest and dissent is literally where patriotism came from.

Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.


edit: actually there's nothing fun about that.

Any member of the KKK? No.

Did you change your mind?

Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.

[TECSHARE]

These aren't protests any more, they are riots. Protesters obey the law.

There are riots.  And there are protests.  Just because there are riots does not make the protests not protests anymore.

Protesters obey the law.

Not always.  Probably the most well known example is MLK being arrested for protesting in the 60s.
Another example: in LA the other day there were hundreds of people protesting.  The cops declared it an unlawful assembly and gave everyone a chance to leave. Many simply sat down and waited their turn to be arrested.  No violence, no looting, just protesting after being told to stop.  Civil disobedience is one way to protest and dissent is literally where patriotism came from.

Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.


edit: actually there's nothing fun about that.

Any member of the KKK? No.

Did you change your mind?

Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.

They aren't just engaged in unlawful assembly, and they are certainly not nonviolent. Yeah I change my mind, progressives are more racist than any KKK member. You people are fucking disgusting and why no one can have a logical nuanced discussion any more, because any nuance is turned into a "gotcha". You enjoy enabling murder, beatings, looting, and arson.

[KingScorpio]

and lets not miss the fact that the word "terrorist" has been hyper-politicized over the last 20 years to loosely mean "anyone who the government wants to get rid of".   The US has constantly called groups terrorists and then armed them and supported them in later conflicts when they needed their help.

I am using the legal definition of the term terrorist. The rest of your statement is a non sequitur.

The page on Antifa by the Southern Poverty Law Center is quite interesting. It's obviously they are pushing the lie and backing the violent anarchists/communists.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/06/01/designating-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organization-dangerous-threatens-civil-liberties

i lived studied and worked in germany last 30 years, antifa has its origin here

believe me it is extremly exhausting having them constantly in the political debate, it feels like a parasitarian worm is continously drilling your bring, people will suffer having them constantly being pissed off.
there is always force in life.

no government is perfect, antifa destroyes production chains and causes poverty.

[guigui371]

You enjoy enabling murder, beatings, looting, and arson.

And you enjoy the murders of Americans by the people that are supposed to serve and protect them (ie the police).



Just to explain the above statement :  you are against protests that are against police brutality, hence you do not condemn police brutality, hence you enjoy police brutality.
Maybe if you knew that 50% of the police casualties are white (574 out of 1093), you would change your mind. Blacks only represent a mere 24% of the police murders.

So, you can join on the train (condemn police brutality), and still look "good" by supporting white supremacist racist people.

OMg, so much double negation and touches of sarcasm in the above.

[cryptoperkele]

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I did in fact document that they are an organization.
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Yeah, i am not going to waste my time browsing ~30 articles or videos from vague conspiracy sites or for your amusement, i have stuff to do.
If you had actual proof, you would be more specific.

[TwitchySeal]

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I did in fact document that they are an organization.
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Yeah, i am not going to waste my time browsing ~30 articles or videos from vague conspiracy sites or for your amusement, i have stuff to do.
If you had actual proof, you would be more specific.

He googled something like 'antifa is an organization' and posted a bunch of the search results.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252416.msg54543632#msg54543632

[BADecker]

This whole thing is a staged setup to make Trump look bad.

Watch the video at the link to the site, below. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=667&v=CJ9hqde1XMo )


Something Doesn't Add Up! Organized Riots? Staged Bricks, Bail Out's & De Blasio’s Daughter Arrested

Something doesn’t smell quite right with these George Floyd riots breaking out across our cities. Not only are piles of bricks being left at riot scenes, but mayor De Blasio’s daughter has been arrested at one of these unlawful protests and bail out money for looters are being donated by celebrities and Joe Biden campaign staff members. All that and more in this report…

[TECSHARE]

You enjoy enabling murder, beatings, looting, and arson.

And you enjoy the murders of Americans by the people that are supposed to serve and protect them (ie the police).



Just to explain the above statement :  you are against protests that are against police brutality, hence you do not condemn police brutality, hence you enjoy police brutality.
Maybe if you knew that 50% of the police casualties are white (574 out of 1093), you would change your mind. Blacks only represent a mere 24% of the police murders.

So, you can join on the train (condemn police brutality), and still look "good" by supporting white supremacist racist people.

OMg, so much double negation and touches of sarcasm in the above.

Actually I used to run a Youtube channel focused on nothing more than police brutality for several years, this was of course before it was trendy to hate all cops just for being cops. I had over 5000 subscribers and nearly two million views. I also got more death threats than I could count. Of course feel free to tell me what I enjoy while you make excuses for people who might very well cause a civil war and societal breakdown. I am sure your "justice" in the dark running from roving gangs of murderers and rapists while you starve will be worth it.

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I did in fact document that they are an organization.
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Yeah, i am not going to waste my time browsing ~30 articles or videos from vague conspiracy sites or for your amusement, i have stuff to do.
If you had actual proof, you would be more specific.

So the groups own website is not proof enough? The guide published by ANTIFA detailing how to start a group isn't enough?

[slaps "CONSPIRACY" sticker on it] "Yep, no need to reply now"

Just because you refuse to read it doesn't change the fact that I documented they are in fact a collection of organized groups.

He googled something like 'antifa is an organization' and posted a bunch of the search results.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252416.msg54543632#msg54543632

I have been monitoring the activities of this organization for at least 5 years, and up to 19 if you count "black bloc" from 1999. You have fun with your shallow baseless assertions, because we both know you have no argument to stand on here. ANTIFA is a terrorist organization.

[af_newbie]

Socialism and communism should be banned and any followers should be imprisoned and re-educated.

I don't know if you were trying to be funny but that's what authoritarian regimes - often communist regimes - do with dissidents. It never really ends well in the long term.

It was done in the US in the past, see the "Third Enforcement Act".

But in the current political environment, it might be impossible as the House is full of ANTIFA sympathizers.

As for ANTIFA, they commit criminal acts and can be detained and charged for those, never mind their crazy, utopian ideology.

The ideology they profess will lead to economic genocide and will affect ALL Americans.

[Spendulus]

Its not an organization at all.  North Korea on the other hand is a place with a state and a list of government officials and governing documents.    If a group of fascists call themselves "antifa" that doesn't mean they are antifa.  It means they are liars.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456
They were never antifa.  They were posing.
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The use of cells at the higher organizational level of an attempted communist takeover is well documented. This was done by those agents of the Communist party under Mao in organizing the "student protests" in China that led to the takeover in 1949.

[TwitchySeal]

"Trump Denies, Then Admits, Going to White House Bunker During Protest"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/us/politics/trump-protests.html

“Well, it was a false report”
“I wasn’t down — I went down during the day, and I was there for a tiny little short period of time, and it was much more for an inspection, there was no problem during the day.”

I wonder if the deep state leaked it to Antifa that it was bunker inspection day.

[guigui371]

You enjoy enabling murder, beatings, looting, and arson.

And you enjoy the murders of Americans by the people that are supposed to serve and protect them (ie the police).



Just to explain the above statement :  you are against protests that are against police brutality, hence you do not condemn police brutality, hence you enjoy police brutality.
Maybe if you knew that 50% of the police casualties are white (574 out of 1093), you would change your mind. Blacks only represent a mere 24% of the police murders.

So, you can join on the train (condemn police brutality), and still look "good" by supporting white supremacist racist people.

OMg, so much double negation and touches of sarcasm in the above.

Actually I used to run a Youtube channel focused on nothing more than police brutality for several years, this was of course before it was trendy to hate all cops just for being cops. I had over 5000 subscribers and nearly two million views. I also got more death threats than I could count. Of course feel free to tell me what I enjoy while you make excuses for people who might very well cause a civil war and societal breakdown. I am sure your "justice" in the dark running from roving gangs of murderers and rapists while you starve will be worth it.

Good on you! I believe that more people should "film the cops", hold them responsible. Document police brutality, report dirty cops and of course sue them.
Why did you stop? that was a very noble cause!

So why did you turn 180 deg and are now defending dirty cops? why are you against the first amendment (freedom of peaceful speech / peaceful march)?

One of the definitions of fascism is "Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition" which is basically the exact definition of what I see when I watch  "police the police' or "film the police" videos.

I'm pretty sure that cop watchers see themselves as social heroes, fighting police fascism ... aka Antifa




I think that you are against the looters, the mob that wants to burn cities down, create a revolution, and that are hiding among the #cantbreathe protests.
Only a fool (Donald Trump duck) would mix everybody in the same panel

[TECSHARE]

Good on you! I believe that more people should "film the cops", hold them responsible. Document police brutality, report dirty cops and of course sue them.
Why did you stop? that was a very noble cause!

So why did you turn 180 deg and are now defending dirty cops? why are you against the first amendment (freedom of peaceful speech / peaceful march)?

One of the definitions of fascism is "Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition" which is basically the exact definition of what I see when I watch  "police the police' or "film the police" videos.

I'm pretty sure that cop watchers see themselves as social heroes, fighting police fascism ... aka Antifa


I think that you are against the looters, the mob that wants to burn cities down, create a revolution, and that are hiding among the #cantbreathe protests.
Only a fool (Donald Trump duck) would mix everybody in the same panel

I stopped when I realized that the shift against police was being purposely turned trendy to weaponize it to sow division and create chaos, also when everyone suddenly thought it was ok to hate all police. It became propaganda, not just reality based criticism. Weird how people act like you are the enemy when they get treated like the enemy isn't it?

Please quote exactly the statement where I defended dirty cops.

I am pro-freedom of speech, however when there in nation wide civil unrest which is directly endangering the lives of thousands of people, possibly millions if it expands, then the protestors should go home, at least until the rioting stops. These people, if not violent criminal themselves, are directly and in some cases purposely serving as direct cover for rioting.

This is what these ANTIFA cowards do. They come to protests of ANY KIND left or right, hide among the crowd, pop out and beat, stab, burn, and steal. Then they slip away back into the masses to escape. ANTIFA is also closely affiliated and organized with BLM. They also share some funding sources. These are not innocent protests. This is PR cover for violent unrest.

People need to wake the fuck up quick and realize this is an organized effort to destabilize our nation and soften it up for it being taken down. Take a look at the historical patterns used in "color revolutions" all over the world. A more recent example is "The Arab Spring". That is happening here, and it is NOT organic. This is NOT going to result in anything you like. What it will however result in is society breaking down, and death, destruction, poverty, and starvation becoming commonplace, but you can at least rest assured that you were trying to fight for justice when that does happen.



More media propaganda exposed...

"No Tear Gas Used Ahead of Trump’s Church Visit: Police"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-tear-gas-used-ahead-of-trumps-church-visit-police_3374470.html

[TwitchySeal]

They aren't just engaged in unlawful assembly, and they are certainly not nonviolent.

"Jersey City Protesters Rally At South Precinct, Mayor In Crowd"
https://hudsonreporter.com/2020/06/02/jersey-city-peacefully-protests/

"Another peaceful Jersey City rally marches on City Hall"
https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/06/another-peaceful-jersey-city-rally-marches-on-city-hall.html



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No violence.  Not even any arrests.  The mayor marched and the cops knelt with the protesters for 9 minutes.  I know for a fact these pictures and reports are not fake news.  It's what's actually happened.  And it seems to be happening all over the country world.  Although I can't personally vouche for what happened at all of them.

Stereotyping everyone that protests as a violent thug is not helping.  It's hurting.  When you see the media report on a protest, don't just assume they're a bunch of thugs.

[TwitchySeal]

More media propaganda exposed...

"No Tear Gas Used Ahead of Trump’s Church Visit: Police"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-tear-gas-used-ahead-of-trumps-church-visit-police_3374470.html

Damn media saying they used tear gas when all they really did was throw smoke canisters and shoot pepper balls and people!