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April 04, 2014, 02:20:36 AM |
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Spreading my word out to those who use my Digital Currencies News Search Engine- we reach about 25,000 Bitcoiners per month, and about 10,000 from other Digital Currencies Congrats CleanWaterCoin Team- Keep up the good work and here is my appreciation for your efforts to the Bitcoin & Digital Currency community: http://bitcoinfeeds.com/clean-water-coin-why-it-all-matters-for-youSee why CleanWaterCoin all matters- multiple resources added into one page!
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coinfinder000
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April 04, 2014, 02:23:19 AM |
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I'll show this to Water_kel. thank you . we should speed up to introduce CleanWaterCoin to Chinese, not after block 7,000, or even later. shall we ? waiting for reply from Chinese community manager.
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April 04, 2014, 02:23:50 AM |
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Spreading my word out to those who use my Digital Currencies News Search Engine- we reach about 25,000 Bitcoiners per month, and about 10,000 from other Digital Currencies Congrats CleanWaterCoin Team- Keep up the good work and here is my appreciation for your efforts to the Bitcoin & Digital Currency community: http://bitcoinfeeds.com/clean-water-coin-why-it-all-matters-for-youSee why CleanWaterCoin all matters- multiple resources added into one page! Awesome!
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April 04, 2014, 02:28:17 AM |
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Is the inscription on the coin/logo Greek for "immeasurable love"? I was getting weird feedback from translation machines.
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Xardas2014
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April 04, 2014, 02:57:42 AM |
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Water, I avoid the stuff. I know what fish do in it..............ewwww
I travel quite a bit and can tell you straight up an earlier poster is wrong. Most people in 3rd world countries do boil their water. To many it is almost a second religion.
Now to the watercoin/charity..........if you are just handing out bottled water to people, you are not helping even a tiny bit. What these countries need is a complete rebuild of the infrastructure from water purification plants, water mains, towers, curb to home plumbing, all the way down to new faucets. Almost none of the existing stuff is usable.
I got into a project to build a water tower in the Philippines and quickly found out it was pointless given the terrible condition of the current plumbing. Adding the water pressure the tower would have done..........well it would have ended badly. I suppose somewhere like darkest Africa it would actually be cheaper since you don't have any existing to have to tear out. But for most towns/villages in the Philippines or Vietnam, you have to tear it all out and start new. Tossing out a few bottles of water is utterly pointless.
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April 04, 2014, 03:03:24 AM |
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Is the inscription on the coin/logo Greek for "immeasurable love"? I was getting weird feedback from translation machines.
we need a Greek speaking people to help you .
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coinfinder000
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April 04, 2014, 03:20:21 AM |
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Water, I avoid the stuff. I know what fish do in it..............ewwww
I travel quite a bit and can tell you straight up an earlier poster is wrong. Most people in 3rd world countries do boil their water. To many it is almost a second religion.
Now to the watercoin/charity..........if you are just handing out bottled water to people, you are not helping even a tiny bit. What these countries need is a complete rebuild of the infrastructure from water purification plants, water mains, towers, curb to home plumbing, all the way down to new faucets. Almost none of the existing stuff is usable.
I got into a project to build a water tower in the Philippines and quickly found out it was pointless given the terrible condition of the current plumbing. Adding the water pressure the tower would have done..........well it would have ended badly. I suppose somewhere like darkest Africa it would actually be cheaper since you don't have any existing to have to tear out. But for most towns/villages in the Philippines or Vietnam, you have to tear it all out and start new. Tossing out a few bottles of water is utterly pointless.
who told you WATER would hand out bottled water to people. "I travel quite a bit and can tell you straight up an earlier poster is wrong. Most people in 3rd world countries do boil their water. To many it is almost a second religion." i don't know whether you have been to these towns/villages who even do not have a water purification plant.they use a deep well , do you know this? there are many countries poorer than Philippines or Vietnam. i think WATER will help these people first rather than you have described. we are just talking about something, we do not want to see any uncivilized words here, shall we ?let's keep on talking .
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April 04, 2014, 03:24:26 AM |
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This coin is not a bad idea, but I never liked the cleanwater charity group because just focusing on giving people clean water is not enough.
Most smart people in 3rd world countries will boil or filter unclean water, collect rainwater and water from clean sources, they will not drink out of puddles in the middle of a paddy with a cow standing overhead like some pictures suggest.
Another thing, if your life really sucked and you have spent all your life drinking filthy water, you wake up the next day with cleanwater, would it really matter? It still doesn't change much.
What is important are the people need to be educated, then gain employment so they can afford decent dwellings. That is what charities should focus on, building up the local economy.
Waking up and drinking clean water will drastically change your entire outlook on life. Our bodies are made of water. So if you drink polluted water you become sick, unable to be productive, organs shut down, then you eventually die. So how can you work, provide, teach, learn, or be active when what you are putting in your body is killing you? Even worse, what if you little child died because it was not developed enough strength or immunity to drink the toxins it is taking into its body? How would that affect you're ability to function. Most places in the world, especially the ones Charity:Water focuses on, have no means to simply build up a local economy. We are talking about war torn countries where children are kidnapped and turned into soldiers. Or nothing to draw an economy off of. Collecting rain water is your solution? Have you been to, seen, or even heard of places that doesn't get rain for months on end? Some people have to travel miles per day just to carry polluted water back to their children. Furthermore, the "educate and build an economy" concept is pretty far fetched. Capitalism is not the answer to every problem. Some people have lived their entire ancestry without the need or use for money. They have lived off the land, provided for their families, and been happy. Then along comes war, rebels, murderers, and worse capitalists. Some come through and slaughter tribes and peaceful people making it impossible for them to access the things they have used for centuries to provide a sustainable living. Sometimes entire governments sell of the land they are living on to capitalists who truly believe that cutting off access to clean water and charging these people for something every human needs to survive isn't a crime. Look at what is happening in India with Nestle and Coke. So to answer your question, "Would it really matter?" Yes, it matters, it makes every bit of difference in the lives of people truly afflicted by the sinful nature of mankind. It matters to the child who goes days without drinking water at all, or the mother who lost her baby to polluted water. If your life sucks, all it takes is one ounce of compassion, or one problem solved to figure out the next step in fixing your quality of life. When you wake up hungry and thirsty you can't think about anything else. You can't build a school, or an economy, you are too weak. Clean water is one step in helping, while there are many problems to be solved, you cant take on everything at once. You have to take steps.
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coinfinder000
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April 04, 2014, 03:28:41 AM |
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water should be here! thanks. @CleanWaterCoin
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April 04, 2014, 03:30:50 AM |
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Water, I avoid the stuff. I know what fish do in it..............ewwww
I travel quite a bit and can tell you straight up an earlier poster is wrong. Most people in 3rd world countries do boil their water. To many it is almost a second religion.
Now to the watercoin/charity..........if you are just handing out bottled water to people, you are not helping even a tiny bit. What these countries need is a complete rebuild of the infrastructure from water purification plants, water mains, towers, curb to home plumbing, all the way down to new faucets. Almost none of the existing stuff is usable.
I got into a project to build a water tower in the Philippines and quickly found out it was pointless given the terrible condition of the current plumbing. Adding the water pressure the tower would have done..........well it would have ended badly. I suppose somewhere like darkest Africa it would actually be cheaper since you don't have any existing to have to tear out. But for most towns/villages in the Philippines or Vietnam, you have to tear it all out and start new. Tossing out a few bottles of water is utterly pointless.
The problem of infrastructure goes way beyond what this coin is trying to do. "Infrastructure", or the desire to acquire it, is what often causes these water crisis. "Third-world" countries are raped by banks, who offer up rigged "loans" to corrupt governments, knowing they will never be able to repay them, and thus giving the bank a way to take the resources of the country in question. The debt is leveraged against the citizens in order to drive them in to poverty and then control their resources. The bank starts this process when it approaches a struggling country and promises billions for "water infrastructure", the work for which is then immediately given to the banks subcontractors who build the infrastructure (thus cutting the locals out of the actions for the most part, and not helping their economy any more than building a temporary service industry for the foreign workers). So the country is loaned a few hundred million, or billions, and then it immediately gives a large portion of that money back to the bank, who has made sure that the contract states that only the BANKS subcontractor companies will do the work. The bank's subcontractor's do all the "improvements" that were promised, and when these improvements don't create all the money out of thin air that the banks promised the government and the citizens it would, and after the corrupt government and bank officials have pocketed millions, the bank comes looking for it's interest payments. And guess what? The country can't pay them. So the government defaults on the loan, and renegotiates their water rights away to the bank, who then starts charging the people astronomical prices for water, and diverting it to cheap labor plants and fields, thus turning what once was a perfectly nice little village in to a dried up shell of it's former self, as people have to walk farther and farther to get to an AFFORDABLE clean enough water source to survive. This has been happening for decades and has been well documented by a host of authors, but most notably by John Perkins in "Confession of an Economic Hitman". This coin will redirect funds to help those people that would likely not have been diverted there without the coin. It may even help teach people how to create their own currency and slowly (or quickly, if infrastructure is pre-laid) erode the power wielded by the owners of the banks. Resource robbing was one of those subjects I liked to discuss and blog about in college, the connection to which is what immediately drew me to the coin in the first place. (For a great interview with the author mentioned above, look up "Speaking Freely" with John Perkins.)
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April 04, 2014, 03:36:49 AM |
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water should be here! thanks. @CleanWaterCoin +1
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Water_kel
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April 04, 2014, 03:46:29 AM |
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I'll show this to Water_kel. thank you . we should speed up to introduce CleanWaterCoin to Chinese, not after block 7,000, or even later. shall we ? waiting for reply from Chinese community manager. Official Chinese ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555540.0Naming Suggestion for Clean Water Coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555566.0Just simply write down a few words and you have a chance for getting 500 WATER or even more. After the suggestion, a voting thread will be added. The voters can get free coins. There is a more interesting feature for that giveaway. You will know very soon. After that my plan is to promote the coin on QQ. My ultimate aim is to help the coin to get on some Chinese media. For that Chinese exchange, I will contact it today. Do you have any suggestion for promoting this coin for Chinese? Glad to see some Chinese here.
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April 04, 2014, 03:49:20 AM |
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I'll show this to Water_kel. thank you . we should speed up to introduce CleanWaterCoin to Chinese, not after block 7,000, or even later. shall we ? waiting for reply from Chinese community manager. Official Chinese ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555540.0Naming Suggestion for Clean Water Coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555566.0Just simply write down a few words and you have a chance for getting 500 WATER or even more. After the suggestion, a voting thread will be added. The voters can get free coins. There is a more interesting feature for that giveaway. You will know very soon. After that my plan is to promote the coin on QQ. My ultimate aim is to help the coin to get on some Chinese media. For that Chinese exchange, I will contact it today. Do you have any suggestion for promoting this coin for Chinese? Glad to see some Chinese here. Nice!
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April 04, 2014, 03:59:37 AM |
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SHARE WATER + GET WATERHelp us build the communitySaving a billion people can’t be done alone; it requires a community that spans countries and continents. Join us in this global initiative by tweeting, following, liking, sharing, and blasting our message out to other social communities. We’ll reward you for your help! Twitter: Tweet & Follow – 30 coins Facebook: Like & Share – 30 coins Reddit: Subscribe to /r/CleanWaterCoin – 30 coins Instagram: Follow – 30 coins Support our Thunderclap – 30 coins All the coins we have to give out have been mined by us. Despite what trolls would have you believe we don’t have a King’s bounty of coins stocked away. We earn our coins just like everyone else, one hash at a time and we want to share them with you. Please do not post here asking for your rewards, it is against the rules on Bitcointalk. Instead, submit the form linked below and we will take care of you! Don't worry if you've already done these things, just show us and you'll get credit! Use the form below: Share WATER & Get WATER Form Another 3 People paid out. Keep on showing us your support, it is incredibly important! be active for water please, it's easy to get waters here. I really like this coin and have donated to charity water previously for birthday campaigns and such and so am more than happy to support a coin that gives to a worthy charity. Liked and shared on facebook. Followed and tweeted on twitter I tweeted Nathan Fillion (actor in Firefly, Castle and others) who also supports charity water, you never know he may retweet to his +2M followers and all the other stuff. Will be actively sharing this coin with friends and family
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April 04, 2014, 04:02:57 AM |
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I'll show this to Water_kel. thank you . we should speed up to introduce CleanWaterCoin to Chinese, not after block 7,000, or even later. shall we ? waiting for reply from Chinese community manager. Official Chinese ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555540.0Naming Suggestion for Clean Water Coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555566.0Just simply write down a few words and you have a chance for getting 500 WATER or even more. After the suggestion, a voting thread will be added. The voters can get free coins. There is a more interesting feature for that giveaway. You will know very soon. After that my plan is to promote the coin on QQ. My ultimate aim is to help the coin to get on some Chinese media. For that Chinese exchange, I will contact it today. Do you have any suggestion for promoting this coin for Chinese? Glad to see some Chinese here. good. QQ is necessary , every altcoin has a QQ group in China, or more . Chinese media is also good. my only suggestion is : speed up taking your plan actions , please. we've launched for days. after block 7,000 ,reward will decrease , that's a little unfair to Chinese . i have seen a QQ group here :water水币cleanwatercoin 151277401 why do the official promotions largely fall behind their fans?
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April 04, 2014, 04:04:53 AM |
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Water, I avoid the stuff. I know what fish do in it..............ewwww
I travel quite a bit and can tell you straight up an earlier poster is wrong. Most people in 3rd world countries do boil their water. To many it is almost a second religion.
Now to the watercoin/charity..........if you are just handing out bottled water to people, you are not helping even a tiny bit. What these countries need is a complete rebuild of the infrastructure from water purification plants, water mains, towers, curb to home plumbing, all the way down to new faucets. Almost none of the existing stuff is usable.
I got into a project to build a water tower in the Philippines and quickly found out it was pointless given the terrible condition of the current plumbing. Adding the water pressure the tower would have done..........well it would have ended badly. I suppose somewhere like darkest Africa it would actually be cheaper since you don't have any existing to have to tear out. But for most towns/villages in the Philippines or Vietnam, you have to tear it all out and start new. Tossing out a few bottles of water is utterly pointless.
The problem of infrastructure goes way beyond what this coin is trying to do. "Infrastructure", or the desire to acquire it, is what often causes these water crisis. "Third-world" countries are raped by banks, who offer up rigged "loans" to corrupt governments, knowing they will never be able to repay them, and thus giving the bank a way to take the resources of the country in question. The debt is leveraged against the citizens in order to drive them in to poverty and then control their resources. The bank starts this process when it approaches a struggling country and promises billions for "water infrastructure", the work for which is then immediately given to the banks subcontractors who build the infrastructure (thus cutting the locals out of the actions for the most part, and not helping their economy any more than building a temporary service industry for the foreign workers). So the country is loaned a few hundred million, or billions, and then it immediately gives a large portion of that money back to the bank, who has made sure that the contract states that only the BANKS subcontractor companies will do the work. The bank's subcontractor's do all the "improvements" that were promised, and when these improvements don't create all the money out of thin air that the banks promised the government and the citizens it would, and after the corrupt government and bank officials have pocketed millions, the bank comes looking for it's interest payments. And guess what? The country can't pay them. So the government defaults on the loan, and renegotiates their water rights away to the bank, who then starts charging the people astronomical prices for water, and diverting it to cheap labor plants and fields, thus turning what once was a perfectly nice little village in to a dried up shell of it's former self, as people have to walk farther and farther to get to an AFFORDABLE clean enough water source to survive. This has been happening for decades and has been well documented by a host of authors, but most notably by John Perkins in "Confession of an Economic Hitman". This coin will redirect funds to help those people that would likely not have been diverted there without the coin. It may even help teach people how to create their own currency and slowly (or quickly, if infrastructure is pre-laid) erode the power wielded by the owners of the banks. Resource robbing was one of those subjects I liked to discuss and blog about in college, the connection to which is what immediately drew me to the coin in the first place. (For a great interview with the author mentioned above, look up "Speaking Freely" with John Perkins.) The problem I have with watercoin is that it is more of a feel good thing, than something of actual substance and real world help. Obviously both of us have an understanding of the real world obstacles involved to actually provide clean water to a village. Sadly, many people hyping and praising watercoin have never left their hometown, much less lived in a third world country for any length of time. Even fewer, including myself, have visited a 4th world country. It is admirable that people get excited and want to "help", but honestly folks, handing out some bottled water doesn't fix the problem. Villages in Africa need wells, protected by armed guards, with incorruptable overseers to make sure people needing the water get it. They need onsite purification facilities. What they don't need is a few bottles of water and empty promises. Let me clue some of you in about how it works in the Philippines.........I'll use clothes as an example. You donate your clothes to Goodwill, they send them to the Philippines at the expense of Goodwill, where a corrupt customs official sells them by the kilo to the highest bidder. The winning bidder then takes those clothes and resells them to the public (after removing any higher value items they can resell in their "main" store) at places similar to flea markets or dollar stores. DO the locals appreciate it............yes, because they can get some decent clothes at a reasonable price. It is right? Not even slightly. You paid lets say $10 for a dress that fits a lil girl, she wore it a few times and outgrew it, you gave it to Goodwill wanting to be nice and help others.........but in this case at least two other people have profited by your "donation". At LEAST 2 people, as the winning bidder might have been another corrupt official that then resold them to the thrift store type people. Trust me......that lil girl dress wasn't acquired by the new lil girl for free. I seriously doubt a shipment of bottled water arriving in the Philippines would fair any better. Customs can and will charge you up to 200% of the value of the import, ESPECIALLY if that import competes with a local vendor. I'm also fairly certain this doesn't only happen in the Philippines.
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April 04, 2014, 04:06:17 AM |
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I'll show this to Water_kel. thank you . we should speed up to introduce CleanWaterCoin to Chinese, not after block 7,000, or even later. shall we ? waiting for reply from Chinese community manager. Official Chinese ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555540.0Naming Suggestion for Clean Water Coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555566.0Just simply write down a few words and you have a chance for getting 500 WATER or even more. After the suggestion, a voting thread will be added. The voters can get free coins. There is a more interesting feature for that giveaway. You will know very soon. After that my plan is to promote the coin on QQ. My ultimate aim is to help the coin to get on some Chinese media. For that Chinese exchange, I will contact it today. Do you have any suggestion for promoting this coin for Chinese? Glad to see some Chinese here. good. QQ is necessary , every altcoin has a QQ group in China, or more . Chinese media is also good. my only suggestion is : speed up taking your plan actions , please. we've launched for days. after block 7,000 ,reward will decrease , that's a little unfair to Chinese . i have seen a QQ group here :water水币cleanwatercoin 151277401 why do the official promotions largely fall behind their fans? agree , pls speed up your promotions .
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April 04, 2014, 04:14:39 AM |
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I'll show this to Water_kel. thank you . we should speed up to introduce CleanWaterCoin to Chinese, not after block 7,000, or even later. shall we ? waiting for reply from Chinese community manager. Official Chinese ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555540.0Naming Suggestion for Clean Water Coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555566.0Just simply write down a few words and you have a chance for getting 500 WATER or even more. After the suggestion, a voting thread will be added. The voters can get free coins. There is a more interesting feature for that giveaway. You will know very soon. After that my plan is to promote the coin on QQ. My ultimate aim is to help the coin to get on some Chinese media. For that Chinese exchange, I will contact it today. Do you have any suggestion for promoting this coin for Chinese? Glad to see some Chinese here. good. QQ is necessary , every altcoin has a QQ group in China, or more . Chinese media is also good. my only suggestion is : speed up taking your plan actions , please. we've launched for days. after block 7,000 ,reward will decrease , that's a little unfair to Chinese . i have seen a QQ group here :water水币cleanwatercoin 151277401 why do the official promotions largely fall behind their fans? agree , pls speed up your promotions . 同意!
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April 04, 2014, 04:49:46 AM |
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I'll show this to Water_kel. thank you . we should speed up to introduce CleanWaterCoin to Chinese, not after block 7,000, or even later. shall we ? waiting for reply from Chinese community manager. Official Chinese ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555540.0Naming Suggestion for Clean Water Coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555566.0Just simply write down a few words and you have a chance for getting 500 WATER or even more. After the suggestion, a voting thread will be added. The voters can get free coins. There is a more interesting feature for that giveaway. You will know very soon. After that my plan is to promote the coin on QQ. My ultimate aim is to help the coin to get on some Chinese media. For that Chinese exchange, I will contact it today. Do you have any suggestion for promoting this coin for Chinese? Glad to see some Chinese here. good. QQ is necessary , every altcoin has a QQ group in China, or more . Chinese media is also good. my only suggestion is : speed up taking your plan actions , please. we've launched for days. after block 7,000 ,reward will decrease , that's a little unfair to Chinese . i have seen a QQ group here :water水币cleanwatercoin 151277401 why do the official promotions largely fall behind their fans? agree , pls speed up your promotions . 同意! I will. I have my day job to do and I am not contributing all the time into the coin. We need your help as my own power is not strong enough. Please help to suggest one or two names for the coin and I will end the suggestion part. The voting and giveaway part will be opened soon.
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