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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 85 (45.5%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.6%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.9%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (7%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 187

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May 30, 2023, 04:07:25 PM
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Too bad this had to happen to Arsenal. In the last few matches towards the end of the season, they looked tired during the match, often made blunders in games and even lost several times against teams that were barely in the relegation zone. Their struggle has gone very far, but yes, no one can be blamed here, the season is over, and they can only lament the real fact that Manchester City deserved the Premier League title this season.
Arsenal should be able to concentrate fully because they are no longer involved in other competitions. But it is very clear that the mentality of Arsenal's players is completely unprepared for pressure. But I salute the struggle of the Gunners' young players, because they can compete fiercely with Manchester City, which has a fairly superior squad.
Arsenal failure to win the EPL this season was a very disappointing moment for everyone involved in the team and its supporters. I think it's very natural for fans to be disappointed by the failure of their team, Arsenal once held the record for occupying the top of the standings for the longest time in Premier League history but in the end they failed to become champions.
Arsenal young squad had made it difficult for Manchester City with a sizable point advantage, but Arsenal were unable to maintain the quality of their game towards the end of the season which resulted in them failing to become champions after sitting in first position for 248 days.

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May 30, 2023, 04:09:44 PM
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Arsenal can blame no one but themself for losing the title this season. They played really good football around the half of the season. But as the season end was coming closer, their form started dropping which made them lose the title in the end. Man City is a better team and it is only fair that they have won the title. Arsenal simply didn't deserve it.
Too bad this had to happen to Arsenal. In the last few matches towards the end of the season, they looked tired during the match, often made blunders in games and even lost several times against teams that were barely in the relegation zone. Their struggle has gone very far, but yes, no one can be blamed here, the season is over, and they can only lament the real fact that Manchester City deserved the Premier League title this season.

Even though Manchester City deserved the Premier League title, but that doesn't mean you can say Arsenal don't deserve the title. lol! Because after all, even though Arsenal failed but basically Arsenal has proven its success has a young squad and good performance this season. Therefore, even though Arsenal failed to win the title, basically Arsenal still deserved the title and yes, unfortunately Arsenal failed in a few matches near the end of the season and allowed Manchester City to take over the top spot.
Those are the strengths that Arsenal have, they have a young squad that can last a long time to become a team, and if they can manage to maintain and continue to improve their performance then they will become a very solid team for the future. Mikel Arteta has good capital to go through next season with Arsenal, he just needs to do some evaluations, especially in terms of mental issues and also their motivation. Because I see them like they lack motivation when it's the end of the season which makes them fail to maintain their position at the top of the standings.


Not only deserved, but also worthy enough for Manchester City to win again this season in the Premier League because the Manchester City team's struggles are also worthy of being said to be good in the Premier League even though there are other teams who feel sorry like Arsenal who after struggling can only finish this season in the rankings runner-up. But the Arsenal team's sadness this season might be paid back next season because in general they already have a lot of experience and a strategy that is mature enough to be better next season.
Manchester City have a more mature squad compared to Arsenal, which makes them more solid and consistent. Actually, Arsenal are also solid with their young players, but they can be said to be still under Manchester City in that regard.
Indeed, they really deserve to be champions, in fact they are also close to the Champions League title, and to be honest, looking at the difference between their opponents in the final, I think they (Manchester City) also deserve more titles.

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May 30, 2023, 04:14:31 PM
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Mikel Arteta is a young coach and compared to Guardiola he doesn't have enough experience and maybe that's why he failed to win the league this season while Arsenal had the first place in the table for weeks but lost just a few points and made some a few mistakes was enough for Guardiola to take the first place of the table however Arsenal had a good performance in this season and we can't complain about this team situation but I guess if Guardiola was not coaching Manchester City, Arsenal could win this season.
Yes, maybe that could be the reason why they failed to win this season. But I don't want to talk about that now, I would rather see their development, last season they could only finish in 5th place, and even the 2 previous seasons they couldn't compete in the top 5 and were thrown into the middle of the standings. management must see this good improvement, this can be a momentum for them to be even more prepared in the next season.

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May 30, 2023, 04:16:52 PM
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Mikel Arteta is a young coach and compared to Guardiola he doesn't have enough experience and maybe that's why he failed to win the league this season while Arsenal had the first place in the table for weeks but lost just a few points and made some a few mistakes was enough for Guardiola to take the first place of the table however Arsenal had a good performance in this season and we can't complain about this team situation but I guess if Guardiola was not coaching Manchester City, Arsenal could win this season.
No need to talk much about Pep Guardiola qualities especially in EPL and hopefully soon in Champions League but he has also a very solid and top squad comparing to Arsenal and Arteta. What Arteta made for Arsenal throughout many weeks were impressive. It is unfortunate that they cannot hold more otherwise they would be in the first place.
Back to the squad, Manchester City substitutes are way better than some teams so Guardiola could find suitable change whenever he wants at the opposite of his opponents. It is a success story from money to good coach and top players.

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May 30, 2023, 04:20:08 PM
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No need to talk much about Pep Guardiola qualities especially in EPL and hopefully soon in Champions League but he has also a very solid and top squad comparing to Arsenal and Arteta. What Arteta made for Arsenal throughout many weeks were impressive. It is unfortunate that they cannot hold more otherwise they would be in the first place.
Back to the squad, Manchester City substitutes are way better than some teams so Guardiola could find suitable change whenever he wants at the opposite of his opponents. It is a success story from money to good coach and top players.
Pep Guardiola already successfully built up a good squad to win and even dominate Premier League. He only needs a little bit of luckiness to win Champions League to lift the club to a higher level in Europe. They are a rich club and have been dominating Premier League in the last decade but in Champions League, without a title, people still not consider Manchester City as a giant club there.

They need at least one title to appear in Champions League Hall of fame and it will be a start for them to win more titles in Champions League. A first title is always hardest challenge and later they will feel more confident that will help them to more easily win more titles.

Manchester City have a more mature squad compared to Arsenal, which makes them more solid and consistent. Actually, Arsenal are also solid with their young players, but they can be said to be still under Manchester City in that regard.
Manchester City have more experience than Arsenal, from players to coaches and combinations of all factors, they are stronger and more experienced than Arsenal so that they can beat Arsenal in a title race. This season is only a start of Arsenal to come back top of Premier League. They will be able to improve and can compete better against Manchester City.

It will only be good for Premier League and help to increase quality of clubs there. One or two seasons later, we will see how Arsenal get matured and if they succeed, they will be stronger and more matured, more experienced than now. Chance for them to beat Manchester City in a long competition would be bigger.

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May 30, 2023, 04:29:44 PM
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Arsenal can blame no one but themself for losing the title this season. They played really good football around the half of the season. But as the season end was coming closer, their form started dropping which made them lose the title in the end. Man City is a better team and it is only fair that they have won the title. Arsenal simply didn't deserve it.
Too bad this had to happen to Arsenal. In the last few matches towards the end of the season, they looked tired during the match, often made blunders in games and even lost several times against teams that were barely in the relegation zone. Their struggle has gone very far, but yes, no one can be blamed here, the season is over, and they can only lament the real fact that Manchester City deserved the Premier League title this season.
Arsenal should be able to concentrate fully because they are no longer involved in other competitions. But it is very clear that the mentality of Arsenal's players is completely unprepared for pressure. But I salute the struggle of the Gunners' young players, because they can compete fiercely with Manchester City, which has a fairly superior squad.
I was surprised to see the game of Arsenal team players on 28 may. Arsenal won by 5 goals. But if they can play as well as they did in this match, then Arsenal can keep the 2nd position.  Will move from Avastan. But hopefully if Arsenal can perform well in every match then they will be able to go to 1st Avastan. Hope Arsenal will improve the quality of players in the team.

Arsenal players had a great performance against Wolves. But this match was not an important match for them. Arsenal would have been second in the table even if they had not won this match. And despite the defeat in this match, there has been no change in the Wolves' position in the points table. Then the performance of the Arsenal players was quite organized in this match. The performances of Xhaka and Saka in particular were excellent. Arsenal's performance will be pretty stable next season too unless players get injured.

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May 30, 2023, 04:32:57 PM
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Too bad this had to happen to Arsenal. In the last few matches towards the end of the season, they looked tired during the match, often made blunders in games and even lost several times against teams that were barely in the relegation zone. Their struggle has gone very far, but yes, no one can be blamed here, the season is over, and they can only lament the real fact that Manchester City deserved the Premier League title this season.
Not only deserved, but also worthy enough for Manchester City to win again this season in the Premier League because the Manchester City team's struggles are also worthy of being said to be good in the Premier League even though there are other teams who feel sorry like Arsenal who after struggling can only finish this season in the rankings runner-up. But the Arsenal team's sadness this season might be paid back next season because in general they already have a lot of experience and a strategy that is mature enough to be better next season.
Admittedly, the smartest rich team right now is Man City, unlimited abundant money, targeted purchases, tier 1 trainers, okay management, this is really a very solid team in this modern era. With the depth of the squad and the mentality that really is the key to winning the EPL this season. Man City is really a complete team right now in terms of composition, squad talent and maturity, salute to Pep Guardiola, he deserves all the titles he can win this season.

So it is very appropriate for them to win the EPL league compared to Arsenal, whose second-line squad is uneven, plus their mentality is not strong enough to face pressure. Yes, I agree with you, Arsenal will definitely learn a lot from this season for next season to be even better. But they have to bring in other top players to join the Arsenal squad because next season Arsenal's target is not only to win the EPL league but also the UCL league.

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Mikel Arteta did not learn any lessons from Guardiola and there was no single lessons for him to learn from Guardiola. Arteta did a wonderful job that many people didn't expect. The major problem of Arteta was that he didn't have a squad depth. He was repeating those good guys in every match to get results. Same players for league, same players for FA cup and same players for Europa League. If Arsenal can strengthen Arteta's squad. He will do even better this season.
This is what often makes Arsenal's players experience fatigue when the game is very close, which causes their performance to not always be consistent. Even if Arteta has more great players who can be relied on in every game and in different competitions, I think Arsenal can at least win one of the competitions this season even though it's not in the Premier League. But it's very unfortunate, Arsenal have not got anything this season except for only second place in the Premier League which is also quite painful.
I think the system he plays makes them tired by the end as well. They need to figure out how to rest players during the game period as well, just pass around at the back and just rest the players for a minute, I am not saying take 10 minutes to start a possession, but by the time it's like 70th minute, just tell them to take 2 minutes passing from wing to win, from defender to defender, just keep the ball and not tire yourself much and players ahead will rest meanwhile.

After that they can go back to how they were, but the current system they are playing makes players tired by 90th minute anyway, even if they haven't played a game for a week, they would still be tired with this method, great tactic, just needs players to take a breather during the game if they possibly could.
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May 30, 2023, 04:52:43 PM
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Mikel Arteta is a young coach and compared to Guardiola he doesn't have enough experience and maybe that's why he failed to win the league this season while Arsenal had the first place in the table for weeks but lost just a few points and made some a few mistakes was enough for Guardiola to take the first place of the table however Arsenal had a good performance in this season and we can't complain about this team situation but I guess if Guardiola was not coaching Manchester City, Arsenal could win this season.

Guardiola, is a former teacher for Arteta. at least, Arteta has to see what Pep Guardiola has done in this one season. clear to me, there are many significant differences. let's compare, it's not uncommon for Guardiola to reserve some of his core players. I mean, he always rotates his players, apart from Halland.
let's see Arsenal, if the Arsenal players are not injured, they will still be the main starter. and this, not done by Pep Guardiola. As someone who has worked with Pep Guardiola, Arteta should be able to emulate what his former teacher did. apart from that, Arteta had no other plans when his team found themselves in a deadlock. in truth, players need Rotation. this needs to be done. the benefits are many, besides fitness, the players need another atmosphere and achieve chemistry with other players too. and, there are several other points that we can criticize from Arteta's side.

But the truth is, he has taken Arsenal so far. unfortunately, the chance they had for the trophy was lost with just a few games. but, as an Arsenal supporter. I am quite happy with their achievements. Plus, Arsenal will certainly participate in the Champions League next season.

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May 30, 2023, 04:58:50 PM
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Next season, I double doubt if they can perform the way they did this season.  Much focus would be on, Brighton, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool and also Newcastle for the top four.

I too doubt Arsenal could replicate their performance and play as well as they did in the just concluded season. And I agree with you on clubs like Brighton and Newcastle being clubs we should watch out for next season. Their performance especially Brighton was almost shocking to me. Both clubs would be great contenders for the EPL title next season. If Brighton could play as well as they had done in the just concluded season, and perhaps put in some more effort, I could see them finishing in the top four positions. Manchester United should also better step up their game cause the competition is getting more and more intense.
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It was very tragic what Leeds experienced, they won promotion to the EPL in the 20/21 season and after two seasons they were able to survive, now they have to go down to the championship division again. Actually what they experienced this season and last season was not much different because Leeds was only able to finish at the bottom of the standings.

Very different from the start of the season they were promoted to the EPL which was able to finish in 9th place in the standings. Maybe they have to learn again to correct the mistakes they made this season and I really hope they will be able to compete again next season so they get the chance to play in the EPL again.

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May 30, 2023, 05:18:54 PM
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Next season, I double doubt if they can perform the way they did this season.  Much focus would be on, Brighton, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool and also Newcastle for the top four.

I too doubt Arsenal could replicate their performance and play as well as they did in the just concluded season. And I agree with you on clubs like Brighton and Newcastle being clubs we should watch out for next season. Their performance especially Brighton was almost shocking to me. Both clubs would be great contenders for the EPL title next season. If Brighton could play as well as they had done in the just concluded season, and perhaps put in some more effort, I could see them finishing in the top four positions. Manchester United should also better step up their game cause the competition is getting more and more intense.

If Brighton can make you believe, why don't you believe in the quality of Arsenal, which basically has better management and finances. I personally am not sure about next season Brighton can be a team that can be in the title race and also, Brighton and Newcastle are two different teams and cannot be compared. Newcastle can do anything because Newcastle has become a wealthy team and that is different from Brighton, so Brighton does not have a good chance of becoming a title challenger.

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Next season, I double doubt if they can perform the way they did this season.  Much focus would be on, Brighton, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool and also Newcastle for the top four.

I too doubt Arsenal could replicate their performance and play as well as they did in the just concluded season. And I agree with you on clubs like Brighton and Newcastle being clubs we should watch out for next season. Their performance especially Brighton was almost shocking to me. Both clubs would be great contenders for the EPL title next season. If Brighton could play as well as they had done in the just concluded season, and perhaps put in some more effort, I could see them finishing in the top four positions. Manchester United should also better step up their game cause the competition is getting more and more intense.
I don’t agree with you on this. Arsenal's 2022/23 Premier League campaign showed signs that the club are moving in the right direction once again. We saw that the hard work in previous transfer windows paved the way for Arteta to find the relative success that he had over the past year, but I know there's still plenty more to come to reach the next level. So I’m convinced that Arsenal will be keen to get their business over the line and get ready to compete for the title once again.
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The decision squarely rests on the shoulders of the coach to field whatever player he thinks could do the job like he wants to. Haaland might not be too happy because of Pep’s decision not to field him but he should understand and believe in his coach.
Obviously, a player that’s in form and not injured would want to play more games and shouldn’t get pissed if left out of the squad for a particular game as there is always a reason for whatever the coach does. Irregardless of how good a player is, the decision of the coach supersedes a players emotions and ambitions.

That is why I phrased it as a question saying that I wonder how Haaland thinks about it. I have no problem with coaches making decisions and see it the same way, the player has to respect it. Yet when you are a Ballon d’Or candidate, you definitely want to break all records possible. Haaland is in a difficult situation since he will probably not win any tournaments with his national team during his career, which means he has to win even more with his clubs and produce the best numbers and scores possible. The difference between Haaland and Messi might be that Haaland already had a few more injuries at this young age and Guardiola is taking that into account.

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Next season, I double doubt if they can perform the way they did this season.  Much focus would be on, Brighton, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool and also Newcastle for the top four.

I too doubt Arsenal could replicate their performance and play as well as they did in the just concluded season. And I agree with you on clubs like Brighton and Newcastle being clubs we should watch out for next season. Their performance especially Brighton was almost shocking to me. Both clubs would be great contenders for the EPL title next season. If Brighton could play as well as they had done in the just concluded season, and perhaps put in some more effort, I could see them finishing in the top four positions. Manchester United should also better step up their game cause the competition is getting more and more intense.
Well I aslo agree on the issue of arsenal not replicating this season performance because they show how they were unable to cope with the pressure of the league at the end of season but I would like to clear that it would be hard for team like Brighton to contest for the league but no doubt their performance was excellent but contending for the league, thats a totally different atmosphere with teams like Manchester city at their current best it will be hard for any team now to compete with them in for the title.

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May 30, 2023, 06:58:51 PM
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I was surprised to see the game of Arsenal team players on 28 may. Arsenal won by 5 goals. But if they can play as well as they did in this match, then Arsenal can keep the 2nd position.  Will move from Avastan. But hopefully if Arsenal can perform well in every match then they will be able to go to 1st Avastan. Hope Arsenal will improve the quality of players in the team.

Arsenal players had a great performance against Wolves. But this match was not an important match for them. Arsenal would have been second in the table even if they had not won this match. And despite the defeat in this match, there has been no change in the Wolves' position in the points table. Then the performance of the Arsenal players was quite organized in this match. The performances of Xhaka and Saka in particular were excellent. Arsenal's performance will be pretty stable next season too unless players get injured.

When their fans hopes were high, that was when Arsenal fumble, they failed to defeat two important matches, it was humiliating and disappointing to say that a team like Nottingham Forest used Arsenal loss to run away from Relegation zone, Brighton was understandable since they were not in relegation zone before meeting with Arsenal and they were even way better form than Nottingham Forest only for them to lose to them and start showing seriousness against wolves match that wasn't necessary, nothing really changes when the match ended between these teams. I hope they try harder in next season but if teams that weren't serious should bounce back, they will have a lot of work to accomplish.

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May 30, 2023, 07:16:33 PM
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Next season, I double doubt if they can perform the way they did this season.  Much focus would be on, Brighton, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool and also Newcastle for the top four.

I too doubt Arsenal could replicate their performance and play as well as they did in the just concluded season. And I agree with you on clubs like Brighton and Newcastle being clubs we should watch out for next season. Their performance especially Brighton was almost shocking to me. Both clubs would be great contenders for the EPL title next season. If Brighton could play as well as they had done in the just concluded season, and perhaps put in some more effort, I could see them finishing in the top four positions. Manchester United should also better step up their game cause the competition is getting more and more intense.
Did anyone expect Arsenal to dominate the table for 247 days before they got  usurped by Manchester City. Next season is still too far to decide and Arteta must have learnt from last season's mistake. Secondly if Arteta was a disciple of Garduiola he will definitely unseat Manchester City to win the title as long as he remains in Arsenal. Newcastle is another team to look out for next season but for Liverpool i don't know what to expect, Manchester will only do more better if the sign more attackers and defenders, but with the pressure next season will come with the might not even top 4.
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Arsenal players had a great performance against Wolves. But this match was not an important match for them. Arsenal would have been second in the table even if they had not won this match. And despite the defeat in this match, there has been no change in the Wolves' position in the points table. Then the performance of the Arsenal players was quite organized in this match. The performances of Xhaka and Saka in particular were excellent. Arsenal's performance will be pretty stable next season too unless players get injured.

We haven't talked about any team's performance for next season because surely things like form changes and main line ups are still very likely. Arsenal certainly deserve high appreciation this season even if they failed to win the title, but I believe this failure will only make the players more mature next season.

Arteta will probably try to bring in some players instead of just relying on all the players available, so we will also see some new names in their squad next season. Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham and Manchester United are also expected to do better, but now is not the time to talk about that.

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May 30, 2023, 07:26:50 PM
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With Chelsea's current condition, it is actually still possible for Newcastle to win by more than one goal difference in my opinion.
Even though in this match Chelsea will still continue to be determined and dominate the field as usual, but their gaps are still very much in defense especially by seeing how bad they were in yesterday's match against Manchester United in the compactness in defense.
Even though in this match Newcastle actually didn't win, that's okay, but surely they want to get 3 points as one of the conditions for increasing their performance.
Not that it looks like Chelsea will lose before the match, but with their current condition, I actually doubt that in this match they will get points.
The match is over already, you can see that Newcastle failed to win since the match ended with a draw result.
It was Chelsea home match and they need the points to secure their position on the table, so as I expected Chelsea really played with their best. Although they got 1 goal from the opponent's own goal, I think Chelsea deserves to get 1 goal in that match. I even think they should score more goals but their accuracy in shooting is a bit disappointing, so no other goals were made. But considering the stats, Chelsea played better than Newcastle. They played offensively and they dominated the match very well.


Well actually in this case it's a shame because Newcastle are on a different level of motivation than they have already qualified for the Champions League phase and can't find any more reasons to win but on the other hand even though I lost the bet in this case I liked the performance of both teams in the game This.
As usual Chelsea are very good in their ball possession but their problems are also still not being resolved properly especially for the defense which has lots of gaps and with very poor finishing conditions.

It was very tragic what Leeds experienced, they won promotion to the EPL in the 20/21 season and after two seasons they were able to survive, now they have to go down to the championship division again. Actually what they experienced this season and last season was not much different because Leeds was only able to finish at the bottom of the standings.

Very different from the start of the season they were promoted to the EPL which was able to finish in 9th place in the standings. Maybe they have to learn again to correct the mistakes they made this season and I really hope they will be able to compete again next season so they get the chance to play in the EPL again.
I think with the tragic conditions of the EPL it is clear that this season Leicester is the most tragic team compared to Leeds.
For Leeds itself, actually from last season it was also quite worrying because it was only one ladder above the 3 clubs that were relegated and indeed this season it was difficult for them to reverse their condition because indeed with the current condition of the club and the players who really didn't stand out too much. Moreover, losing Raphinha also contributed to their breaking power, so inevitably they had to go to the Championship division next season.

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It was very tragic what Leeds experienced, they won promotion to the EPL in the 20/21 season and after two seasons they were able to survive, now they have to go down to the championship division again. Actually what they experienced this season and last season was not much different because Leeds was only able to finish at the bottom of the standings.

Very different from the start of the season they were promoted to the EPL which was able to finish in 9th place in the standings. Maybe they have to learn again to correct the mistakes they made this season and I really hope they will be able to compete again next season so they get the chance to play in the EPL again.
I'm not surprised about Leeds relegation and Southampton basically only ended last season in 15th and 17th position. But Leicester, it's a real shock because in the end they had to suffer relegation after last season being in 8th position. It's a bit disappointing because I hope they stay in the Premier League more than Nottingham or Bournemouth.

For Leicester, this is clearly the biggest setback they have experienced after winning the Premier League title in the 2015/2016 season. I hope they will soon be promoted to the Premier League again in the upcoming 2024/2025 season if they are able to improve their form in the second division.

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