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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 184

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October 03, 2023, 12:55:22 PM
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I decided to take that risk and placed a single bet on Chelsea to win. Thankfully they helped me win as well.  Grin  Chelsea found 2 goals in 2 minutes. This was enough to finish off Fulham already. Mudryk and Broja put on a good show there. But the man of the match was Colwill as he worked really hard in this game.
Lucky you, chelsea had been showing impressive performance compared with the previous games. Even though chelsea was a so struggle during the second half but this is not a seriuos problem for the club as chelsea can handle all the attacks that were coming from fulham.
I can't even believe it mudryk was just scoring his first goal which made me scream to see that happened with him. Chelsea is seriously playing even better compared with the previous matches.
The match against burnley will become the best time for chelsea to get another three points.

This was just the win Chelsea needed. Their next game is going to be against Burnley away. I expect another win by Chelsea there. It would be a really important win as well because they are going to face Arsenal in Stamford Bridge right after that.
True, chelsea really needs this win to build its confidence in EPL. Pochettino shall not change the current lineup with another non sense formation. He shall aware if 4-3-3 will always be the best formation for chelsea.
Chelsea had proper midfielder and attacks but it was not having good finisher. Putting armando broja as striker is far better than jackson. Broja has been scoring his first goal on his first match in EPL.

He has a very good talent to be developed even further.

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October 03, 2023, 01:05:13 PM
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Massive win. Good Goal for Mudryk, I do hope to see him scoring more henceforth, he is a player I like secretly . That goal brings in confidence to the player and the entire team.

The win last night can cause a rapid improvement and change with how the blues being playing. I do have this thought of Chelsea players Injury, Players like Pulisic and Loftus Cheek who left Chelsea are now playing well without Injuries, they should conduct a check on the medical team. There must be something wrong. These are same players that a slight collision will lead injures but have seen improvement since leaving.
Not a good thing seeing players like Chiwell and Caicedo out Injured seems odd.
Chelsea players will bounced back to their best peak, this is just the beginning watching these players having good moments in the team. Mauricio Pochettino in here to prove to the fans and the team that he's the right man to lead Chelsea to glory. Prepared his strategy and made good use of the available non-injured players on the pitch, they made good contributions infront of goals, though they missed out on solid goal scoring opportunities which got me upset. Perhaps nothing to worry about because we accumulated three points that made Chelsea climbed further on the table. We have been eager for this glory, I hoped it will continue like this because we can't afford to watched the blues trembling in streak defeats.

They will need to record the same win when they go away to face Burnley. And since Borja back in the lineup with a goal he should start along with Mudryk. Pochetino has experience in the Premier League but he doesn't have the right players to win him that trophy yet. If he can prove himself against Arsenal, Tottenham and City he can have himself backed by the management else he would not be given the chance given to Potter. Fans are excited to see the win.

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October 03, 2023, 01:18:42 PM
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I decided to take that risk and placed a single bet on Chelsea to win. Thankfully they helped me win as well.  Grin  Chelsea found 2 goals in 2 minutes. This was enough to finish off Fulham already. Mudryk and Broja put on a good show there. But the man of the match was Colwill as he worked really hard in this game.

This was just the win Chelsea needed. Their next game is going to be against Burnley away. I expect another win by Chelsea there. It would be a really important win as well because they are going to face Arsenal in Stamford Bridge right after that.
Even though in this match Fullham also played a little better. But Fullham had difficulty entering the Chelsea defense area. And Mudryk's quick goal was also completely unexpected. Then Fullham made a mistake at the back which ended in a goal by A. Broja. 2 goals in 2 minutes really looks like luck. But I think it was more than luck. Because in this case Chelsea's forwards are much better prepared than Fullham's defenders.

You are in luck by betting on Chelsea. I missed this one. Because I am always wrong in predicting Chelsea matches. I'm always unlucky when it comes to Chelsea. So I always miss it.
In the match against Burnley, maybe Chelsea will also win again. But after that against Arsenal, maybe Chelsea could experience defeat again.

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October 03, 2023, 01:39:51 PM
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I think neither Chelsea nor Manchester United are good enough to trust at the moment. Maybe Chelsea won their last match but they are still not consistent at all. Manchester United are also unable to make any improvement lately. I doubt both of them a lot when it comes to their chance for top 4 this season. I'm saying this even though it is early in the season.

If one of these teams make big progress I feel like it would be Manchester United. I see more potential in them honestly after seeing their performance in the Champions League against Bayern Munich.
I agree with all views about these two teams because right now situation is not good for them with having many issues specially Manchester United which is going down badly and have no space for the recovery, but Chelsea last win is positive sign for them with now their next game again on road against newly promoted relegation zone team Burnley which never won against them at home hopefully this could be also improved their confidence, and they could be feeling better.

Manchester United is surely having potential, but they need to be consistent because with this most chances they could be not able to stay at this level and have the worst things until end of this season.

Even after having few good player's they are still fails to have solid combination which helps them for having good result which is surely miserable for the Manchester United and ten Hag.

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October 03, 2023, 01:41:42 PM
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They will need to record the same win when they go away to face Burnley. And since Borja back in the lineup with a goal he should start along with Mudryk. Pochetino has experience in the Premier League but he doesn't have the right players to win him that trophy yet. If he can prove himself against Arsenal, Tottenham and City he can have himself backed by the management else he would not be given the chance given to Potter. Fans are excited to see the win.
I think this is the right win at the right time for Chelsea. The Blues managed to suppress Fulham even though previously they were not the favorites. Apart from that, this victory also made Pochettino relieved, because his performance was starting to come under sharp scrutiny due to his poor performance. Furthermore, Chelsea has the potential to be able to get full points again, even though it is not guaranteed, fighting Burnley is not too difficult, but Pochettino also has to make his troops always appear with high enthusiasm so that the target of winning is always achieved. If they lose points again against Burnley, Chelsea's steps will be even tougher because the next schedule will be in a row against quite a tough team.

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October 03, 2023, 01:49:35 PM
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I think neither Chelsea nor Manchester United are good enough to trust at the moment. Maybe Chelsea won their last match but they are still not consistent at all. Manchester United are also unable to make any improvement lately. I doubt both of them a lot when it comes to their chance for top 4 this season. I'm saying this even though it is early in the season.
It is quite difficult for these two teams to get into the top four this season if the other four teams are still very consistent in winning matches and they both have not made significant improvements. Because the two teams you mentioned must really be able to make improvements in order to get better results, because their rivals such as Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham are still very consistent in getting points in most matches.

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If one of these teams make big progress I feel like it would be Manchester United. I see more potential in them honestly after seeing their performance in the Champions League against Bayern Munich.
I also think like that, although Chelsea can also make an unexpected comeback this season as long as they have a great will, but I am more confident in Manchester United in this case because Manchester United must be better than last season so that they are not embarrassed by the players. fans who are still loyal to support him this season.

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October 03, 2023, 01:55:41 PM
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I am sure that Manchester United and Arsenal will still be able to get three points in the Champions League match that will be played today. I personally don't care about Manchester United poor performance and results in the Premier League this moment, because I believe that maybe Manchester United has a better performance in the Champions League. So yes, playing at Old Trafford against Galatasaray, it looks like Manchester United will still be able to play well to get the three points of course. Likewise regarding Arsenal, even though Arsenal will play away but still, I personally remain confident in continuing with Arsenal.
I am feeling we have to wait for the match because with current form I am favoring Arsenal but about Manchester United I am not agreed specially their form against Crystal Palace was really poor and if they are not going to change their strategy and improved their performance they can go down against Galatasaray as well because they are doing impressive performance in last few matches and having good results against top teams as well even with the home advantage and having match in Champions League can bring some positive change for the Manchester United but still they need to have solid performance if they want to have positive result in this match.

Arsenal is surely at top and Lens is having poor start but in last few matches they are also bouncing back which is good sign but most chances Arsenal which concede no goal in last few matches still can punish them in France.

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October 03, 2023, 01:56:27 PM
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Hard for me to trust United this year in both Premier league but also in UCL. Today they do play against Galatasaray and by all means, this team is not to play with and if United has another bad night , I have no doubts that Galatasaray will win the game and take 3 massive points.

Also , curious to see how Arsenal will perform tonight as they are well known for having trouble with "small" teams during UCL games... Grin Grin

Agree, Manchester United cannot underestimate Galatasaray game. Because so far they have been quite solid, so Manchester United, who are not very entertaining in every match, need to be wary of opponents they rarely encounter. For the score in this match, I think Galatasaray is 2:1 over Manchester United.

Arsenal clearly also needs to reconsider their opponents, because this is a big competition that makes even weak clubs able to show more aggressive play than usual in the League. High motivation to beat big teams is always an ambition, especially for a club like Lens.

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October 03, 2023, 02:00:26 PM
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I think neither Chelsea nor Manchester United are good enough to trust at the moment. Maybe Chelsea won their last match but they are still not consistent at all. Manchester United are also unable to make any improvement lately. I doubt both of them a lot when it comes to their chance for top 4 this season. I'm saying this even though it is early in the season.
It is quite difficult for these two teams to get into the top four this season if the other four teams are still very consistent in winning matches and they both have not made significant improvements. Because the two teams you mentioned must really be able to make improvements in order to get better results, because their rivals such as Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham are still very consistent in getting points in most matches.

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If one of these teams make big progress I feel like it would be Manchester United. I see more potential in them honestly after seeing their performance in the Champions League against Bayern Munich.
I also think like that, although Chelsea can also make an unexpected comeback this season as long as they have a great will, but I am more confident in Manchester United in this case because Manchester United must be better than last season so that they are not embarrassed by the players. fans who are still loyal to support him this season.
Among these two teams,I am seeing more potential in Chelsea than Manchester United.One thing about this Chelsea team is that they have the zeal to play football and win,but they have lacked experience that can make them win games,they don't have team work,and winning spirit which is very essential for any team who wants to go forward.This is a young team that Pochetino is building,so if he can succeed by making the players believe in themselves,and motivating them towards striving to win games,then he must have succeeded in making Chelsea come back to winning ways.They have won two of their last matches now,winning Briton in Carabou cup,and now winning Fulham in the Premier league.This is a young team that will only get better with time,and I think that has just started.

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October 03, 2023, 02:02:13 PM
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Hard for me to trust United this year in both Premier league but also in UCL. Today they do play against Galatasaray and by all means, this team is not to play with and if United has another bad night , I have no doubts that Galatasaray will win the game and take 3 massive points.

Also , curious to see how Arsenal will perform tonight as they are well known for having trouble with "small" teams during UCL games... Grin Grin

Agree, Manchester United cannot underestimate Galatasaray game. Because so far they have been quite solid, so Manchester United, who are not very entertaining in every match, need to be wary of opponents they rarely encounter. For the score in this match, I think Galatasaray is 2:1 over Manchester United.

Arsenal clearly also needs to reconsider their opponents, because this is a big competition that makes even weak clubs able to show more aggressive play than usual in the League. High motivation to beat big teams is always an ambition, especially for a club like Lens.
In the Champions League, many more surprising things happen than in ordinary local leagues. Like last season, we could see that one by one the teams that were favored to become champion candidates fell one by one without being able to go any further. And it was actually several clubs that were not seeded that actually emerged to the top and reached the final. Only Man City is the only team favored as a champion candidate that continues to move forward without significant obstacles. But other strong clubs have to lose even to unseeded teams.

So Man Utd and Arsenal also have to be prepared for all of that. Because in UCL sometimes a weak team can be a team that can beat a strong one. The different match atmosphere makes the game more difficult mentally. so sometimes the mental strength of the players is also tested in the UCL.
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October 03, 2023, 02:36:59 PM
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Among these two teams,I am seeing more potential in Chelsea than Manchester United.One thing about this Chelsea team is that they have the zeal to play football and win,but they have lacked experience that can make them win games,they don't have team work,and winning spirit which is very essential for any team who wants to go forward.This is a young team that Pochetino is building,so if he can succeed by making the players believe in themselves,and motivating them towards striving to win games,then he must have succeeded in making Chelsea come back to winning ways.They have won two of their last matches now,winning Briton in Carabou cup,and now winning Fulham in the Premier league.This is a young team that will only get better with time,and I think that has just started.

Is it not experience that make someone to have potential? I don't know if you are talking about another Chelsea but the Chelsea team I know is full of mediocre players who lacks everything. There's no zeal, commitment and dedication to play for the badge. Sometimes I wonder and ask myself if Chelsea players are not being paid for playing for the team. The only experienced player who's committed and dedicated to the team right now is TS and RJ and unfortunate the former is old while the latter is injury prone player. I don't know what the future holds but I don't see potch going far as a couch in Chelsea.

Chelsea ought to have won yesterday game with five or more goals but the lack of experience and regular 9 denied them those important goals. I have never seen any serious team playing without a striker as Chelsea is doing at the moment. Thanks to Sanchez for saving the team from conceding despite error defense and inaccurate passes. With the current form, if Chelsea survive relegation it would be a miracle. Forget yesterday win and focus on the next match. Until they win the next two matches ahead, I'm not yet convinced they're back to form.

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October 03, 2023, 02:38:12 PM
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Currently, PGMOL has also actually admitted that Diaz's goal should have been allowed but this kind of thing has happened even though it is now admitted that it was an error from the referee, it still does not restore anything. Liverpool have also responded by providing a statement relating to this matter.

But again this also cannot be changed because it has already happened but it is important for PGMOL because this can be a good lesson and in the end for future matches there are no more human errors like this so as not to harm one of the clubs in a match.
Who else is still following the VAR controversy at Tottenham on Saturday between the Liverpool. After this event, Liverpool had took it upon itself to trail the case to make a request to the PGMOL to release the audio conversation of the incident. Interestingly, PGMOL was able to get Liverpool with the footages for their review. We are also hoping and waiting to have it released publicly. On the flip side, the VAR official was biased and used emotion to make his judgment. I still don't take it as a mistake because Diaz strike wasn't supposed to be ruled out just like that. The official could have taken more time to analyze this before taken on in his conclusion. As a penalty, both the VAR official and his assistant have been removed from matchday duties for the rest of the week.

I join others who criticized the decision of the VAR team who didn't intervene after they had discovered the true part of the incident. They could have just resolved it while the game was still on. Although, they capitalized on the IFAB Rule 10. Nonetheless, they could have done better to have resolved this issue on the pitch. I want to believe thst Tottenham took the home advantage over Liverpool. But next time, the VAR team needs to get better sothey don't raise the football fan's possible concerns on Favoritism.

But in situations like this, what should be the possible outcome, will the goal be counted or does it mean the PGMOL does not have any provision to address such mistakes in favor of the victims?

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October 03, 2023, 02:39:36 PM
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If one of these teams make big progress I feel like it would be Manchester United. I see more potential in them honestly after seeing their performance in the Champions League against Bayern Munich.

Right? They had performed much better than I had expected and although I had expected Bayern Munich to win the game, I didn’t think Man United had it in them to actually pose a serious threat but somewhat of a threat United was as they scored three goals to almost even the scoreline and hold Bayern to a draw. It obviously wasn’t the desired outcome Man United had wished for, i still think they did put up a good fight.

We’re on the same page about the team having more potential, but we could really do with that same energy and performance in the EPL as the one displayed in the game with Bayern. That is, If they’ve got any plans of finishing amongst the top 4 this season.
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October 03, 2023, 02:48:09 PM
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Hard for me to trust United this year in both Premier league but also in UCL. Today they do play against Galatasaray and by all means, this team is not to play with and if United has another bad night , I have no doubts that Galatasaray will win the game and take 3 massive points.

Also , curious to see how Arsenal will perform tonight as they are well known for having trouble with "small" teams during UCL games... Grin Grin

Punters had the same confidence yesterday, all expected Chelsea to lose to Fulham including me with a ticket lost too, Chelsea did the opposite of that and bookies rekt a lot of money yesterday, I just imagined how many tickets would be lost yesterday because they thought Chelsea would lose. Manchester United is no different, you can't expect a team to lose all the time and there is even a point that will be reached that they will start to win and this is where bookmakers always prayed to see just to make money.

Arsenal and Lens don't have much history together, not even in any of the European leagues but had a friendly match but it is not enough to verify the next step in this match, but their domestic position says much about how Arsenal is going to win this match tonight.

Qualifying for UCL football comes with different level of obligation, Erik Ten Hag owe United the very best performance when it comes to elite competition. If Erik Ten Hag continues to raise skepticism and push supporters out of reach, they will undoubtedly demand his removal from office; nothing would be too resilient for these United supporters to provoke. Manchester United's play is erratic, casting uncertainty on their upcoming league results. We know how the Red Devils switch off and on in EPL games, but this is a different story in the UEFA Champions League. Manchester United has the capacity to face Galatasaray tonight, which will be a difficult game to watch.

Manchester United is not too cold like Chelsea allows their emotion to overcrowd their mind and judgement, by far Manchester United still has some players that do not function well in their position, look at Onana who was hyped, they had to trash De Gea to bring in the dude only for them to be face with all this problem, they had to let go of green to subsidized interest of the media, Antony and Cavallin was still recent and they are even better than Chelsea that has all the players they needed but are still playing like babies, except for yesterday that things turn around, it is not Erik Ten Hag fault and I don't think Manchester United will lets go of him anytime soon.

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October 03, 2023, 03:02:18 PM
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Arsenal and Lens don't have much history together, not even in any of the European leagues but had a friendly match but it is not enough to verify the next step in this match, but their domestic position says much about how Arsenal is going to win this match tonight.

Lens will benefit from playing as hosts, but must remain alert because they will meet Arsenal, which is a strong Premier League club. Arsenal are in good condition and have found their rhythm for several seasons. They are very stuck and are not even able to be in the Champions League zone.  , Lens must dominate the match because if not, Arsenal will easily embarrass Lens on their own turf.

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October 03, 2023, 03:09:55 PM
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Massive win. Good Goal for Mudryk, I do hope to see him scoring more henceforth, he is a player I like secretly . That goal brings in confidence to the player and the entire team.

The win last night can cause a rapid improvement and change with how the blues being playing. I do have this thought of Chelsea players Injury, Players like Pulisic and Loftus Cheek who left Chelsea are now playing well without Injuries, they should conduct a check on the medical team. There must be something wrong. These are same players that a slight collision will lead injures but have seen improvement since leaving.
Not a good thing seeing players like Chiwell and Caicedo out Injured seems odd.
Chelsea players will bounced back to their best peak, this is just the beginning watching these players having good moments in the team. Mauricio Pochettino in here to prove to the fans and the team that he's the right man to lead Chelsea to glory. Prepared his strategy and made good use of the available non-injured players on the pitch, they made good contributions infront of goals, though they missed out on solid goal scoring opportunities which got me upset. Perhaps nothing to worry about because we accumulated three points that made Chelsea climbed further on the table. We have been eager for this glory, I hoped it will continue like this because we can't afford to watched the blues trembling in streak defeats.

They will need to record the same win when they go away to face Burnley. And since Borja back in the lineup with a goal he should start along with Mudryk. Pochetino has experience in the Premier League but he doesn't have the right players to win him that trophy yet. If he can prove himself against Arsenal, Tottenham and City he can have himself backed by the management else he would not be given the chance given to Potter. Fans are excited to see the win.

All managers need time to build their teams. Slowly but surely, manager Pochettino's experience in the Premier League is becoming a valuable asset. Even though no trophies have been won, his experience and understanding of football in England can help the team in the long term. But the real test against Arsenal, Tottenham and City will be important proof that Pochettino is a manager capable of competing at the highest level.
Even though they only won the last 2 matches and only against teams that were not in the top flight, Chelsea's performance is improving.
and Borja's return to the lineup and scoring goals is great news. A good performance from a key player like Borja can have a positive impact on the team's overall performance. He seems to be a good choice to play alongside Mudryk.

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October 03, 2023, 03:16:33 PM
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Agree, Manchester United cannot underestimate Galatasaray game. Because so far they have been quite solid, so Manchester United, who are not very entertaining in every match, need to be wary of opponents they rarely encounter. For the score in this match, I think Galatasaray is 2:1 over Manchester United.

Arsenal clearly also needs to reconsider their opponents, because this is a big competition that makes even weak clubs able to show more aggressive play than usual in the League. High motivation to beat big teams is always an ambition, especially for a club like Lens.

I actually predict the match will end with a score of 2:1 too but for Manchester United to win. I don't mean to belittle Galatasaray. But I think that playing at home will be an advantage for the hosts.
Playing in the Champions League is certainly different from playing in the local league. The teams that are considered weak in the group are basically the best in their respective leagues. Maybe their quality is below that of teams from big leagues, but what differentiates them from weak teams in local leagues is the mentality of a champion.

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October 03, 2023, 03:17:30 PM
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I decided to take that risk and placed a single bet on Chelsea to win. Thankfully they helped me win as well.  Grin  Chelsea found 2 goals in 2 minutes. This was enough to finish off Fulham already. Mudryk and Broja put on a good show there. But the man of the match was Colwill as he worked really hard in this game.

This was just the win Chelsea needed. Their next game is going to be against Burnley away. I expect another win by Chelsea there. It would be a really important win as well because they are going to face Arsenal in Stamford Bridge right after that.

Honestly, I was quite surprised by Chelsea's performance in this match, finally I saw The Bluess end the match by winning full points, if only I ventured to bet on Chelsea in this match I would have fared like you, but in fact it is quite difficult to believe in this team that always looks bad. This is the result we've been waiting for from a squad that has undergone an almost complete overhaul. Yes, it's true that in the first half Pochettino's squad has managed to take a two-goal lead from Fulham and I think it's quite impressive that as you said, the difference between the first and second goals in the first half is only one minute difference. Honestly, I see that Chelsea now have a bit of a winning mentality, and it seems that they have begun to be able to unite in terms of chemistry with other players, of course this is a pretty good start to getting back from the downturn.

Well right, next Chelsea will play Burnley at Turf Moor stadium before finally competing with Arsenal which is much stronger than Pochettino's squad. I hope Chelsea will return to the next match still with their performance against Fulham, I am sure if this is one of the beginnings of Chelsea's revival to get into the proper path as a big team.

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October 03, 2023, 03:21:13 PM
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Arsenal and Lens don't have much history together, not even in any of the European leagues but had a friendly match but it is not enough to verify the next step in this match, but their domestic position says much about how Arsenal is going to win this match tonight.

Lens will benefit from playing as hosts, but must remain alert because they will meet Arsenal, which is a strong Premier League club. Arsenal are in good condition and have found their rhythm for several seasons. They are very stuck and are not even able to be in the Champions League zone.  , Lens must dominate the match because if not, Arsenal will easily embarrass Lens on their own turf.

Although for example they have a history of head to head or meetings but still, at this moment it is clear that Arsenal are in their best form . Therefore, of course Arsenal also have better quality because after all, from last season Arsenal also competed well in the upper zone in the Premier League standings which have difficult competition . But yes, Arsenal in this season are also still consistent with their good performance and results in the Premier League . Therefore, with the good performance that Arsenal have at this moment then of course, Arsenal will most likely still succeed in getting three points also in the match in the Champion League.

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October 03, 2023, 03:22:21 PM
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Hard for me to trust United this year in both Premier league but also in UCL. Today they do play against Galatasaray and by all means, this team is not to play with and if United has another bad night , I have no doubts that Galatasaray will win the game and take 3 massive points.

Also , curious to see how Arsenal will perform tonight as they are well known for having trouble with "small" teams during UCL games... Grin Grin
There are many people who doubt Manchester United, but we also have to admit that a team like this could come back at any time, so there are many possibilities that could happen in the match against Galatasaray.
Indeed, Manchester United is in a very bad state, but I don't dare underestimate them in the UCL match, this team has many quality players.

Meanwhile, Arsenal this season has been different, they have been quite consistent and they have equal players in all their lines so I no longer doubt Arsenal when facing small teams.
After having good end in last season mostly were feeling things will be at his best for them in this season, but sadly they are not able to perform consistently which is big below for them and their off the field issues are also creating mess-up for them which is surely another setback if they want to have positive things management needs to fix problems and have good atmosphere in dressing room which is important for the success and better results hopefully today we will have good performance from them against Turkish champions which is also on impressive run and this game can bring good change into their performance for the future.

Arsenal are having good time and their trip to France are going to have good result for them with another three pointer and then staying at the top in this group with having good chance for the last eight after this it's not easy for them.

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