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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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October 04, 2023, 09:47:33 AM
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Even De Gea definitely continues to get entertainment when watching his former team compete because they have always had bad results so far. That is real karma for Manchester United because they have thrown away an experienced goalkeeper like De Gea and preferred a goalkeeper who was only good for one season.
Indeed De Gea was one of the best goalkeeper Manchester United has ever had but I wouldn't blame the club for going for Onana because Onana is actually a nice goalkeeper and has been doing really well since from when he was keeping for AC Milan, I think from his past records, he has more good quality performance than De Gea, but however every good performance of a goalkeeper always depends on the good performance of the defenders because even with the highest goalkeeper in the world could perform very low if the defenders fails to do there work very well so in Manchester United that's what they are facing, how would they expect Onana to perform well as goalkeeper when the defenders are not helping.

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October 04, 2023, 09:52:33 AM
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I don't think it will be for sure, it's not that I don't trust the Chelsea team but I think realistically that the Chelsea team hasn't proven to be able to play consistently well and also this match will be played at home to Burnley so it will be a bit of a tough one.
Mudryk is a player who is already quite down and what he did in his last match with Chelsea could indeed make him more confident, but I am very pessimistic about Mudryk.
This is Chelsea first season with a relatively new formation and players, so everyone must be aware that this season Chelsea cannot force themselves to give their best. Chelsea transition looks very slow, both players and coaches are still having difficulty uniting their goals with each other. So I'm not surprised by people's doubts about every appearance. If they manage to finish in the top 8, that would already be a good result, but in reality it will be difficult for them to achieve this.

Personally, I agree regarding Mudryk, he always annoys me, even though in the last match he scored a goal, it still seems like his existence still can't prove that Mudryk is worth keeping.

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October 04, 2023, 09:57:12 AM
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Too bad for André Onana. A goalkeeper who was one of the best in Europe is now a burden to his club. He has suddenly lost confidence and his performance is nothing to commend. He usually falls before any strike and has failed to make important saves. I have always complained when goalkeeper engage in risky passes close to their goalpost because a slight mistake can be disastrous. Although Galastataray lost the penalty it resulted in a red card against Casemiro which led to more pressure on the Manchester team. It is a shame to see if the best clubs in the world at the bottom of Group A that have low-rated teams like Copenhagen and Galatasaray. I don't know how long the Glazers will keep Erik Ten Hag as coach of the club. But we saw Højlund showing that the money invested in him was not a waste with a brace but his efforts were not well celebrated due to the loss.

It is just difficult to understand Onana right now. He is a very inconsistent goalkeeper in his career. I mean his performance at Inter was amazing in the previous season. He was one of the players who were talked about because of the number of saves he made in the Champions League. But he is desperate now.

He was like the most responsible player for the loss last night. That misplaced pass cost them too much. If it didn't happen maybe they couldn't have lost the game at least. Now I'm curious about whether ten Hag would give Altay Bayindir a chance in his place. ten Hag is also under pressure these days of course and he needs to try everything he can.
Erik Ten Hag has to think hard about making the club run stable again and be able to perform consistently. Maybe replacing Onana with Altay Bayindir could help Manchester United defense a little because so far Altay Bayindir has not made his debut at Manchester United since being brought in from Fenerbahce in the Turkish super league.

If Erik Ten Hag doesn't act immediately, it's likely that Manchester United will experience difficulties and it will be difficult to get points in the Champions League. Of course this will be a tough consideration for Ten Hag but if it isn't done immediately we all won't know the extent of Altay Bayindir performance.

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October 04, 2023, 10:08:30 AM
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We shouldn't put all the blame on Onana. I agree it's his responsibility. Because, to be honest, MU's start was not favorable. Everyone is at fault for bringing the team down. Onana's responsibility may be greater than that of the players. If he makes a mistake, he must pay the price immediately.

If you watch Manchester United vs Galatasaray yesterday you'll see that only the penalty was truly Onana's fault. He was not decent but the mistake he made that led to the goal was the penalty. It was a wrong pass.
Other than that, none of the other goals was his fault. The first goal, instead of Dalot to defend well was busy accompanying the striker. Onana is not so bad that he'll be sorely responsible for Man United's downfall.

The defense and midfield of Manchester United is very average and until they work on that they'll continue to suffer. De Gea would have suffered the same fate if he was still at United. A lot needs to be done in Manchester United but they're hell-bent on blaming the keeper for everything.

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October 04, 2023, 10:13:40 AM
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Too bad for André Onana. A goalkeeper who was one of the best in Europe is now a burden to his club. He has suddenly lost confidence and his performance is nothing to commend. He usually falls before any strike and has failed to make important saves. I have always complained when goalkeeper engage in risky passes close to their goalpost because a slight mistake can be disastrous. Although Galastataray lost the penalty it resulted in a red card against Casemiro which led to more pressure on the Manchester team. It is a shame to see if the best clubs in the world at the bottom of Group A that have low-rated teams like Copenhagen and Galatasaray. I don't know how long the Glazers will keep Erik Ten Hag as coach of the club. But we saw Højlund showing that the money invested in him was not a waste with a brace but his efforts were not well celebrated due to the loss.
It is just difficult to understand Onana right now. He is a very inconsistent goalkeeper in his career. I mean his performance at Inter was amazing in the previous season. He was one of the players who were talked about because of the number of saves he made in the Champions League. But he is desperate now.
He was like the most responsible player for the loss last night. That misplaced pass cost them too much. If it didn't happen maybe they couldn't have lost the game at least. Now I'm curious about whether ten Hag would give Altay Bayindir a chance in his place. ten Hag is also under pressure these days of course and he needs to try everything he can.
Erik Ten Hag has to think hard about making the club run stable again and be able to perform consistently. Maybe replacing Onana with Altay Bayindir could help Manchester United defense a little because so far Altay Bayindir has not made his debut at Manchester United since being brought in from Fenerbahce in the Turkish super league.
If Erik Ten Hag doesn't act immediately, it's likely that Manchester United will experience difficulties and it will be difficult to get points in the Champions League. Of course this will be a tough consideration for Ten Hag but if it isn't done immediately we all won't know the extent of Altay Bayindir performance.

I thought Onana was a good goalkeeper.  But he is not suitable for a big team like manchester united . Onana needs to be more  diligent. Manchester united's defense is weak,  along with their goalkeeper's  performance. Onana managed just one save against galatasaray. Galatasaray had a total of 4 on target shots, and the team managed to score all three.

I would say Ten hag should change his match strategy. Manchester United's performance will be stronger if Ten Hag's match strategy is stable. Also several players of the team are injured. Even if these players return to the squad, I think Manchester United's performance will be consistent again.

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Chelsea needs time before they would possibly bounced back to winning ways, they're st restructuring phase and the fans needs patience. Mauricio Pochettino is here to proof his worth to the team and the supporters. Ofcourse all the necessary signs we have been looking for is there already, eliminating a competitive side like Brighton Albion from Carabao cup and winning Fulham in EPL, two wins in a row. Our next game is Burnley and I'm 100% confident of my team thrashing them with ease efforts to maximized. Chelsea bounced back to winning ways, however I'm satisfied with the present results the blues records in their last two games.
Chelsea always need time to improve their condition but unfortunately if that doesn't happen soon then they will run out of time like last season when they ended up outside the top 10 and not playing in any European competition.
They can't run out of time like last season which will result in even greater fan disappointment. This is already the seventh match and later in the eighth match they will face Burnley. There is no doubt they can win over Burnley, although unexpected things can still happen again, because it seems like Chelsea with Pochettino as coach haven't shown anything that good.
Is changing managers every season the reason for Chelsea's poor performance? Chelsea have tried a lot to improve their performance, they have bought the players where they needed to be bought and they have completed several transfers with significant sums of money but still they are not in a good position in the Premier League with this team.

The position of this team is 11 in the English Premier League. But Chelsea is not a team to be in the 11th position at all. When Chelsea can continue from the number one position in the points table to the number five position, I will think that Chelsea's performance is the same as before.  

Pochettino took charge of Chelsea with high hopes but failed to deliver success for this manager and this team.

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October 04, 2023, 10:31:25 AM
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Even De Gea definitely continues to get entertainment when watching his former team compete because they have always had bad results so far. That is real karma for Manchester United because they have thrown away an experienced goalkeeper like De Gea and preferred a goalkeeper who was only good for one season.
Indeed De Gea was one of the best goalkeeper Manchester United has ever had but I wouldn't blame the club for going for Onana because Onana is actually a nice goalkeeper and has been doing really well since from when he was keeping for AC Milan, I think from his past records, he has more good quality performance than De Gea, but however every good performance of a goalkeeper always depends on the good performance of the defenders because even with the highest goalkeeper in the world could perform very low if the defenders fails to do there work very well so in Manchester United that's what they are facing, how would they expect Onana to perform well as goalkeeper when the defenders are not helping.
Firstly I would want us not to dwell so much on the past as it's not helping the present, Onana has a record which has been fantastic but that's in the past and we can't continue to glorify the past and make it a good reason to excuse the present failure, success is more appreciated when it's been sustained and repeated over again regardless of the circumstances attached to the success.

Going by what you are saying it means Onanas success was greatly dependent on the defenders and now that those defenders are no more his blunders are been exposed of which it shouldn't be so, no doubt the presence of good defenders aids the excellent performance of a keeper but then the keeper himself must have some level of accuracy that will be complimented by the defensive efforts, so we can't blame it so much on the defenders.

De gea was in Manchester united with these same defenders although only but a few has changed but de gea did well with these same defenders onana is having a hard time with so I think it's time we stop excusing him and bring it to him that he is been failing the club and should improve, he doesn't need the whole season to prove how good he can be. De gea is also doing well where he is now with new set of defenders so I wouldn't want to start comparison now as there will be More than enough to talk about as it concerns these two keepers.

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October 04, 2023, 10:35:56 AM
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We shouldn't put all the blame on Onana. I agree it's his responsibility. Because, to be honest, MU's start was not favorable. Everyone is at fault for bringing the team down. Onana's responsibility may be greater than that of the players. If he makes a mistake, he must pay the price immediately. Onana is under pressure from the mistake he made in the last match against Bayern Munich, and this time, he continued to make mistakes. And he's making things difficult for himself. We should give Onana a chance to correct her errors.
There is still a chance for Onana to correct mistakes, but goalkeeper Onana will not be able to fix errors with empty words. He must do it with saves on the field. He should prove it with actions.

The whole defenders and him shall be blamed as onana was performing as bad as last match due to the garbage defenders who did nothing during the game. Onana has been conceding a lot of goals in the last 9 matches. It's a very bad record to concede around 27 goals from 9 matches which is a very bad record for manchester united as well. Onana needs to improve himself. He was not feeling confident anymore about it. I think that there must be a huge revamp to the defenders of manchester united.
I prefer to see meguire to play together with amrabat instead of another defender. Ten hag shall be blamed caused by he was always changing the strategy which was making manchester united to lose the important game.
I think that the quality of manchester united was still far below my expectation. The defenders and goal keepers are the main factors here. How easy galatasaray players in scoring against manchester united.
Onana's performance was really different compared with his season with intermilan. Is there something wrong going on him right now? He needs to solve his problem as soon as possible. Shall ten hag use secondary goal keeper instead of him?

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October 04, 2023, 10:40:26 AM
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Apart from Manchester United fans who feel disappointed, actually those of us who bet on Manchester United also feel this disappointment.  Grin
Maybe what you say is true, that even if De Gea was the goalkeeper in that match, Manchester United's goal would still be conceded if Manchester United's back line was so weak.
Of course, Onana was not completely wrong for Man United's defeat, maybe if Dea Gea was still there they would have suffered the same fate because Man United's defense was very weak, especially since several Man United defenders were injured. Onana's blunder was also made by De Gea when he gave Erikson a pass, but instead his opponent grabbed him and managed to score a goal. And what happened, De Gea was also bullied by fans at that time but the great thing about being a senior is that he can definitely recover from mistakes. Now it's up to Onana to have a steel or fail mentality. However, Onana's blunder certainly cannot be separated from Erik Ten Heg's gaming strategy and the success of his opponent's high press strategy as well. It would be a shame if Onana was the only one to blame.

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Currently, many people are cornering Erik Ten Heg. And many people began to doubt his abilities as a quality coach. But we also need to know that in the transfer market yesterday the club's spending money was quite limited. So Erik Ten Heg even withdrew from hunting for players the club actually needed due to limited funds.
Of course his capacity as Man United coach is questionable because so far there have been no significant changes, in my opinion player transfers are not the reason because currently the composition of Man United players is far above the average of other players and I wonder why Erik Ten Heg doesn't want to resign. and I'm surprised management doesn't want to kick Erik Ten Heg.
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October 04, 2023, 10:41:46 AM
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After Burnley win against Luton Town today, they will face Chelsea in the next 3 days later, I believe this will be sure win for Chelsea because Burnley's players are exhausted.

I'm very excited to see what Mudryk will do in this match, either people will proud of him or continue to get booed like his previous 19 matches Tongue

I expect his self confident went high,he might become a selfish player who's trying to dribbling and beat the opponents.
I don't think it will be for sure, it's not that I don't trust the Chelsea team but I think realistically that the Chelsea team hasn't proven to be able to play consistently well and also this match will be played at home to Burnley so it will be a bit of a tough one.
Mudryk is a player who is already quite down and what he did in his last match with Chelsea could indeed make him more confident, but I am very pessimistic about Mudryk.
Chelsea's current condition will indeed make everyone doubt whether they have improved or not. I personally learned from Man Utd's inconsistency and I think Chelsea could end up the same as Man Utd. It's just that Burnley should be much weaker than Chelsea. So Chelsea's chances of winning should be higher. But still Burnley as hosts is something to be reckoned with. Moreover, Burnley is currently still slumped in the relegation zone. So Burnley definitely wants the points back. At least they will try to share the points.

Mudryk will probably be much more enthusiastic in the match against Burnley. But I'm not sure whether he will score goals again or not. Chelsea's mistake this season was that they let Lukaku go by loaning him to Roma. Even though if there was Lukaku, I think Chelsea's front line would be much better. Or if Nkunku wasn't injured then of course Chelsea would be better.
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October 04, 2023, 10:45:00 AM
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Indeed De Gea was one of the best goalkeeper Manchester United has ever had but I wouldn't blame the club for going for Onana because Onana is actually a nice goalkeeper and has been doing really well since from when he was keeping for AC Milan, I think from his past records, he has more good quality performance than De Gea
Since when Onana played for AC Milan?

He played for Milan but it is Inter Milan and in the last season, he had a Champions League final with them. Before playing for Inter Milan, Onana played some seasons for Ajax Amsterdam where Ten Hag worked as a coach. That is one of reasons Ten Hag brought Onana to Manchester United like Martinez.

Comparing Onana and De Gea, if it is only about saving ability, De Gea is better. If it is about passing, in theory Onana is better but the yesterday match with Galatasary shows that Onana is not too good with passing. With a goalkeeper, is passing a most important skill?

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October 04, 2023, 11:14:56 AM
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Since when Onana played for AC Milan?

He played for Milan but it is Inter Milan and in the last season, he had a Champions League final with them. Before playing for Inter Milan, Onana played some seasons for Ajax Amsterdam where Ten Hag worked as a coach. That is one of reasons Ten Hag brought Onana to Manchester United like Martinez.

Comparing Onana and De Gea, if it is only about saving ability, De Gea is better. If it is about passing, in theory Onana is better but the yesterday match with Galatasary shows that Onana is not too good with passing. With a goalkeeper, is passing a most important skill?
Why is it difficult for Manchester United fans to accept defeats, the reasons is stated out and the team's performance declined in every single game they've played. Each time they triumped, they would start praising the players and forget about their main problems, but when they lose, they chants, lay blames on all social media platforms. We know how AC Milan be put in place of Inter Milan, let's assumed it to be an error on his side. André Onana was crucial in his position as Inter Milan goal keeper, he made brilliant saves before capturing the sights of Manchester United who were focused on bringing him as David De Gea replacement due to his abilities, but it turns out they made hugh mistakes by bringing in André Onana, he conceded more goals than any goal keeper in EPL except Sheffield United side.

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Apart from Manchester United fans who feel disappointed, actually those of us who bet on Manchester United also feel this disappointment.  Grin
Maybe what you say is true, that even if De Gea was the goalkeeper in that match, Manchester United's goal would still be conceded if Manchester United's back line was so weak.

Manchester United had spoiled many people's minds yesterday by not being able to win the match because many people picked Manchester United straight, but as for me, I am not a Manchester United fan, and again, when I bet on their game, I picked Manchester United to score two goals, and they did that.
 
De Gea is a good goalkeeper, as is Onana, so saying De Gea is better than Onana is what I can't say, so maybe Onana is not in good form currently, and that is the truth about players, and even De Gea fuckups sometimes when he loses form. From the records Onana has from his previous clubs, if someone checks them, he will definitely know that Onana is a great goalkeeper. There are many goals that Manchester United have been conceding and I don't think it is only Onana's fault because even the defensive line is weak.

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Currently, many people are cornering Erik Ten Heg. And many people began to doubt his abilities as a quality coach. But we also need to know that in the transfer market yesterday the club's spending money was quite limited. So Erik Ten Heg even withdrew from hunting for players the club actually needed due to limited funds.

Up till now, I never knew what is really going wrong in Manchester United that they are hardly winning matches nowadays, even  against weak teams. This is a big problem for Manchester United, but I don't think it is the coach because it was this same coach who coached them last season and their team did great. To be honest, Erik Ten Hag is a good coach with a good record, but currently things are just rough for him at Manchester United.

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October 04, 2023, 11:51:24 AM
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Too bad for André Onana. A goalkeeper who was one of the best in Europe is now a burden to his club. He has suddenly lost confidence and his performance is nothing to commend. He usually falls before any strike and has failed to make important saves. I have always complained when goalkeeper engage in risky passes close to their goalpost because a slight mistake can be disastrous. Although Galastataray lost the penalty it resulted in a red card against Casemiro which led to more pressure on the Manchester team. It is a shame to see if the best clubs in the world at the bottom of Group A that have low-rated teams like Copenhagen and Galatasaray. I don't know how long the Glazers will keep Erik Ten Hag as coach of the club. But we saw Højlund showing that the money invested in him was not a waste with a brace but his efforts were not well celebrated due to the loss.

It is just difficult to understand Onana right now. He is a very inconsistent goalkeeper in his career. I mean his performance at Inter was amazing in the previous season. He was one of the players who were talked about because of the number of saves he made in the Champions League. But he is desperate now.

He was like the most responsible player for the loss last night. That misplaced pass cost them too much. If it didn't happen maybe they couldn't have lost the game at least. Now I'm curious about whether ten Hag would give Altay Bayindir a chance in his place. ten Hag is also under pressure these days of course and he needs to try everything he can.
Erik Ten Hag has to think hard about making the club run stable again and be able to perform consistently. Maybe replacing Onana with Altay Bayindir could help Manchester United defense a little because so far Altay Bayindir has not made his debut at Manchester United since being brought in from Fenerbahce in the Turkish super league.

If Erik Ten Hag doesn't act immediately, it's likely that Manchester United will experience difficulties and it will be difficult to get points in the Champions League. Of course this will be a tough consideration for Ten Hag but if it isn't done immediately we all won't know the extent of Altay Bayindir performance.

Ten hag was not even thinking so hard in making the club to have good results again. This guy was doing so many stupid things. The unacceptable decision from him to replace garnacho with rashford in the match against palace in EPL. It was also destroying the mentality owned by the team.
It's a really pathetic decision from ten hag as a manager. The fans have been massively complaining regarding his decision to replace garnacho with rashford. It was changing the gameplay a lot unlike the first leg in the EFL.

The performance of manchester united has been decreasing so hard. Having meguire at the same time with amrabat was good. Onana really underperform in any game which is also unacceptable as MU bought him with a lot of money.

Mount is also really 007. This guy like did nothing for manchester united. He has not even scored a single goal since he was coming to the manchester united.
So many people shall not expect MU to get big achievement this season. MU is finished now. The chance to go to the play off is pretty small.

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October 04, 2023, 12:00:18 PM
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Currently, many people are cornering Erik Ten Heg. And many people began to doubt his abilities as a quality coach. But we also need to know that in the transfer market yesterday the club's spending money was quite limited. So Erik Ten Heg even withdrew from hunting for players the club actually needed due to limited funds.
Of course his capacity as Man United coach is questionable because so far there have been no significant changes, in my opinion player transfers are not the reason because currently the composition of Man United players is far above the average of other players and I wonder why Erik Ten Heg doesn't want to resign. and I'm surprised management doesn't want to kick Erik Ten Heg.
Firing Erik Ten Hag now does not necessarily guarantee that Man United will be better. Because what we see is very difficult to believe. Achieving victory is quite difficult even if the opponent is a weak club, facing a stable club will only embarrass Man United. Honestly, I would prefer the Glazers to sell this club to an owner who really cares about his club. Erik Ten Hag and the Man United players seem to have limits on where to collaborate depending on the situation. The defeat against Galatasaray created new history where the Red Devils themselves experienced a series of defeats that they had never experienced before at Old Trafford. Bringing Onana was a big mistake because initially Man United was interested in David Raya, who is now playing better at Arsenal than Onana performance at Man United.

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October 04, 2023, 12:00:30 PM
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Even De Gea definitely continues to get entertainment when watching his former team compete because they have always had bad results so far. That is real karma for Manchester United because they have thrown away an experienced goalkeeper like De Gea and preferred a goalkeeper who was only good for one season.
Indeed De Gea was one of the best goalkeeper Manchester United has ever had but I wouldn't blame the club for going for Onana because Onana is actually a nice goalkeeper and has been doing really well since from when he was keeping for AC Milan, I think from his past records, he has more good quality performance than De Gea, but however every good performance of a goalkeeper always depends on the good performance of the defenders because even with the highest goalkeeper in the world could perform very low if the defenders fails to do there work very well so in Manchester United that's what they are facing, how would they expect Onana to perform well as goalkeeper when the defenders are not helping.
Onana has played for Inter not Milan.
Now there should be no debate about who is better between Onana and De Gea. because if you really want to debate it from the beginning there should be when Onana is preparing to replace De Gea not now because it is too late and they (Manchester United) know the plans they are trying to implement even though at this time it still cannot be realized properly.

Manchester United's mistake is actually in my opinion too complex because it is not only about the problem of players but staff, coaches and even Management so that this will still interfere with performance even if there are several changes made in just one area because their problems must be fixed from the new roots to the commonplace.

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October 04, 2023, 12:19:43 PM
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Currently, many people are cornering Erik Ten Heg. And many people began to doubt his abilities as a quality coach. But we also need to know that in the transfer market yesterday the club's spending money was quite limited. So Erik Ten Heg even withdrew from hunting for players the club actually needed due to limited funds.
Of course his capacity as Man United coach is questionable because so far there have been no significant changes, in my opinion player transfers are not the reason because currently the composition of Man United players is far above the average of other players and I wonder why Erik Ten Heg doesn't want to resign. and I'm surprised management doesn't want to kick Erik Ten Heg.
Firing Erik Ten Hag now does not necessarily guarantee that Man United will be better. Because what we see is very difficult to believe. Achieving victory is quite difficult even if the opponent is a weak club, facing a stable club will only embarrass Man United. Honestly, I would prefer the Glazers to sell this club to an owner who really cares about his club. Erik Ten Hag and the Man United players seem to have limits on where to collaborate depending on the situation. The defeat against Galatasaray created new history where the Red Devils themselves experienced a series of defeats that they had never experienced before at Old Trafford. Bringing Onana was a big mistake because initially Man United was interested in David Raya, who is now playing better at Arsenal than Onana performance at Man United.

This is my opinion regarding the situation of ten hag. Firing him now might not be a good decision as manchester united is still in a very busy schedule but it's not that bad too. I meant let's say that even though united was not sacking him but united will still face the risk finished out of top 4 EPL and out from UEL once it was also failed in UCL as well. The chance for manchester united to be successful with new coach will always be there. Let's give him more time till the middle of season. That reminds me when people called him as next ferguson LOL.
Those people really had nice jokes by called him as next ferguson. Anything about manchester united is still questionable.

Ten hag keeps doing some experiments. Hojlund was the only guy who performed so well for manchester united but two goals meant nothing coz galatasaray made more goals than manchester united.
Manchester united is now going back to the bad performance again.

The attacking line of manchester united is not that bad, but the mentality of its defenders was so pathetic. They were so clueless.

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October 04, 2023, 12:27:21 PM
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Chelsea managed to win again after 3 weeks in the league. After 3 weeks without a win, Chelsea defeated Fulham away and got 3 points. Chelsea, who had a bad start this year under Pochettino, are not exactly playing well but they are hardly winning matches. I wonder if the management will make a move because the gap with the teams they are already competing with has widened slightly. Chelsea increased their points to 8 with this win and there is a 10 point gap between them and the leader.

I think, there is improvement in the team now because Chelsea dominated through out the match that made them to defeated Fulham to have more strength to finished the match, and that match has given people confident that they will definitely achieve victory in their next match. Since pochettino has discovered his errors that made the team to went through all those challenges that made their starting look poor for other teams to reduced them, but he has used this Fulham match to encourage fans that there is a hope for the team to step up to top 4 in this season. Based on what am observing from this Chelsea new manager, I think if Chelsea president give him long time he will do something that will make Chelsea to embrace that honor they where receiving as among the best team in the premier league competition in the past.
Chelsea is starting to return to winning ways and the players' mentality is improving. Pochettino must maintain the good spirits of his players so that in the next match he will also have high hopes of winning again against Burnley. But I'm not really sure that the Blues will be able to continue to perform well except against mediocre teams because the quality of players still doesn't look promising for this season so I'm pessimistic that they will be able to finish in the top six. If you look at the concept that has been developed, Chelsea has quite bright prospects and I am sure that Chelsea will be able to rise with Pochettino in the next few seasons.
I have numerous questions about Pochettino's Chelsea rule! Can he get Chelsea to win consistently? Not buying it, especially this season! They've won twice, but beating Brighton Albion and Fulham isnt exactly headline-grabbing, is it? I wouldnt lay my home on them bashing Burnley either. Not seeing Pochettino's strategic genius that Chelsea needs right now makes me angry and scared. If they sneak into the top six, I'll be shocked. He may need time, but does Chelsea have it? The next few matchups will reveal more, but Im pessimistic for now.

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October 04, 2023, 12:32:27 PM
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Today there is a week 2 postponed match between Luton vs Burnley. The match between the two clubs that are not in good condition, I think it is very likely to end with a draw. Luton will be the host, they host Burnley armed with a victory in their last match. While Burnley, who is a guest, is a club that has not won until this week. I can't predict who will be the winner in this match, because in terms of the game I don't see them being better. Maybe luck will determine who will be the winner, whether it's Luton or Burnley.
Are you interested and want to watch or even bet on this match?
Both teams are at the bottom of the team so there won't be any impressive games there but if you are betting it better not to because in match like this it will really be very difficult to predict and there is big possibility that there will always be unexpected things that can make our bet lose.
Take look at their previous meeting which only ended in draw and in the last meeting Burnley won 0 - 1 which was also a home match for Luton.

It better to use your money on more interesting and more predictable matches like some of the matches this weekend.

Well, I think it's no problem if someone wants to bet on a match like this, maybe just to fill the void or maybe to try their luck. Because after all, it looks like if we bet on the goal under option it might be a good option too or maybe, about the option for both teams to score (no) . But yes, if I consider the available odds, at least it seems that Burnley are still slightly favourites, although I also don't know on what basis Burnley are favorites based on the odds . Because after all, Burnley is one of the teams that has not won at all so far, while Luton has had one win so far this season. Therefore, I think it would also be interesting if we bet on Luton perhaps with a double chance option and or draw no bet.
Yes there is no problem and everyone is free to make their own choices about who and what to bet on.
However for me if I want to bet on sports especially football I will choose top team matches which can provide adrenaline and excitement when in the match you can bet on one of them after all the top teams always provide very exciting matches and are very different from the lower team which might just play more monotonously.

Burnley got 1 - 2 win over Luton but I didn't fully watch their match because what I really waiting for is this weekend match between Arsenal vs Manchester City which last season were the two top contenders.

Let discuss little and in your opinion which of the two will have the advantage and can win the match.

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October 04, 2023, 12:33:57 PM
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Before playing for Inter Milan, Onana played some seasons for Ajax Amsterdam where Ten Hag worked as a coach. That is one of reasons Ten Hag brought Onana to Manchester United like Martinez.

Comparing Onana and De Gea, if it is only about saving ability, De Gea is better. If it is about passing, in theory Onana is better but the yesterday match with Galatasary shows that Onana is not too good with passing. With a goalkeeper, is passing a most important skill?
I think the most important thing is not about passing. But it's about how a goalkeeper can always save the goal. And how he can read the opponent's foot movements in directing the ball. So you can make decisions more quickly when the opponent's shot is fired. That is what is called a goalkeeper who is good at reading the direction of the ball. But for me, Onana is quite bad at reading the direction of the ball. And I agree De Gea is much better in this regard. I think Onana must learn to strengthen his mentality as a goalkeeper. He always seemed hesitant in making decisions.

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