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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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September 29, 2023, 08:03:37 AM
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Because this match is played at Fulham's home ground, I think they will be slightly favored because Chelsea are also currently in very poor form and this is a West London derby match which of course will be very fierce for both teams.
I will favor Fulham in this match and I will look at the best odds to bet on Fulham winning.

Fulham is much better than Chelsea this season and also in terms of points scored although the two are not much different but I think Fulham will be the favorite in this match and it will be a golden opportunity for Fulham to beat Chelsea at home.
Even so I hope you don't bet too much on Fulham winning because this match is difficult for us to predict even though Chelsea is experiencing bad conditions, but I think Chelsea will try their best in this match.


What is happening to Chelsea right now is quite confusing because if we look at their squad, they are quite capable, but this seems to be due to internal team factors, perhaps because there are new players in the Chelsea squad now and they need more time to create a combination for their players and also a trainer so that he can unite Chemistry.


Chelsea recruits a lot young player who lack experience so it is difficult for them to adapt and build chemistry and Mauricio Pochettino cannot make the Chelsea club play competitively and it seem difficult to make his men look unified and Chelsea does not have high solidarity with his teammates.

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September 29, 2023, 08:05:38 AM
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I think you should not be sure about Chelsea winning the game against Fulham because they are not in the form and their team obviously is under pressure.
Yeah truly considering there performance this season the team is seriously under pressure the Chelsea team seriously need to sit down and evaluate there performance lately to figure out what that needs to be done for the team to regain it formal form because for now nothing is sure for Chelsea,  even some small clubs Chelsea has a big chances of wining but they cannot so even wining Brighton this week doesn't determine there chances of wining Fulham on there next match on less improve there performance but although Fulham also is not much in a good form considering there other matches so the two clubs are just on the same form which will make there match against Chelsea very tough.
No real gambler will be confident that Chelsea will win the match against Fulham. Chelsea's performance has not enhanced this season in order for you to be sure that they can win any club in the English Premier League that is not among the top six clubs. If we can be very truthful to ourselves, no one is even sure that Chelsea can win match against any club in the English Premier League. This is not because Chelsea does not have the capacity to win the matches it is because they have not proven that they have returned to the Chelsea that everyone knows. Both  Chelsea management and Chelsea coach has not figured out how to take the club forward. They are still under the illusion of past glory and it would take them more than two seasons to come back to the Chelsea that everyone knows

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September 29, 2023, 08:16:08 AM
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I will favor Fulham in this match and I will look at the best odds to bet on Fulham winning.
Drawing from the reference of the previous match, Chelsea's (1) vs. (0) Brighton, I observed a modest improvement in Chelsea's offensive play. Despite Brighton's superior field possession, Chelsea is beginning to create more opportunities. This could potentially serve as a turning point and certainly boost Chelsea's morale, enabling them to play more freely.

Meanwhile, Fulham remains consistent with their victory over Norwich in the previous game. Both Chelsea and Fulham display somewhat similar, yet inconsistent, performances. I consider that in tomorrow's match, Chelsea holds a slight edge, but the likelihood of a draw remains significant.
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September 29, 2023, 08:18:29 AM
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I think you should not be sure about Chelsea winning the game against Fulham because they are not in the form and their team obviously is under pressure.
Yeah truly considering there performance this season the team is seriously under pressure the Chelsea team seriously need to sit down and evaluate there performance lately to figure out what that needs to be done for the team to regain it formal form because for now nothing is sure for Chelsea,  even some small clubs Chelsea has a big chances of wining but they cannot so even wining Brighton this week doesn't determine there chances of wining Fulham on there next match on less improve there performance but although Fulham also is not much in a good form considering there other matches so the two clubs are just on the same form which will make there match against Chelsea very tough.
No real gambler will be confident that Chelsea will win the match against Fulham. Chelsea's performance has not enhanced this season in order for you to be sure that they can win any club in the English Premier League that is not among the top six clubs. If we can be very truthful to ourselves, no one is even sure that Chelsea can win match against any club in the English Premier League. This is not because Chelsea does not have the capacity to win the matches it is because they have not proven that they have returned to the Chelsea that everyone knows. Both  Chelsea management and Chelsea coach has not figured out how to take the club forward. They are still under the illusion of past glory and it would take them more than two seasons to come back to the Chelsea that everyone knows

Chelsea won against Brighton in the cup on midweek so at least they are optimistic of getting another good result.Both teams will be a bit tired as both played midweek and both teams qualified further in the cup,I know Chelsea results are really bad so far in the league and they need desperately to win against this opponent or otherwise if they happen to get another lost game that would be for me the final blow to them which I assume they will not be able to recover anymore and most likely they will be in Championship this year,so this is a final for them which they have to win.

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September 29, 2023, 08:28:44 AM
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Manchester United though have been inconsistent with their results since the start of the season but I think they stand a better chance of win their English Premier League game against Crystal Palace ahead of their opponents and that's because of their superiority in terms of quality of players in both teams.
Though Manchester United defeated the same Crystal Palace in the EFL cup in on Tuesday, it doesn't mean that they're automatically gonna win the weekend's match against the same team. EFL cup and the EPL are two different competitions and I also expect Crystal Palace to try take something away from the game.
Erik Ten Hag will focused on weekend's game which we all assumed to be tougher for the Red Devils at Old Trafford. Crystal Palace boss, Roy Hodgson is experienced, who knows if he can turned the game around to the favour of his team. Manchester United grab a winning against Crystal Palace in the carabao cup, they will meet the eagles again this weekend, this time is EPL and not EFL. They're both different, and based on high standards, every coach would want to reach significant positions in EPL because it's the ultimate target for every English club out there.

You are right. Sometimes we can even see a difference in a club's performance when playing in the EFL and in the Premier League. So Crystal Palace's defeat in the EFL should not make Manchester United careless in the Premier League match. Because the Crystal Palace coach, Roy Hodgson, will definitely be more careful in matches in the Premier League. But I think Erik Ten Heg would also definitely have the same thoughts. And yes, he will definitely focus on this match. Because after all, Manchester United currently really needs points in the Premier League.

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September 29, 2023, 08:32:44 AM
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For tomorrow match after win with scores 3-0 at Carabao Cup Manchester United will met Crystal Palace again today on Premier League and the latest result from both teams could be an indicator Manchester United had good chances to repeat that result again and most likely Ten Hag will used similar strategy with putting Amrabat as the defender and this is very affective because Manchester United defensive lines is more solid and besides that played Maguire not always bad because last match he can able to performing well

Manchester United has been confirmed Mctominay and Eriksen will return today but possibly they will starting the match from the bench because Ten Hag doesn't want to take the risk by playing them since the beginning of match and Manchester United has odds @1.56 this is not high odds but no wonder because they are the favourite so the bookie will provide low odds for them and pick them seems safe bet for this match

Based on what Manchester united showcased in their last match, show that Ten Hag has worked on his players and they will definitely prove it in this match to maintain a good results that will make people to celebrate them. Crystal palace will do everything possible within their power to ensure what happened last match will not repeat itself again than to draw the match 1-1 which will be difficult for Manchester united to allow such thing to happen in their home. I think, this match will still improve Manchester united points because their coach will make use of the right players to start the match so that they will use first half to achieve some goals that will reduce the strength of crystal palace.


Crystal Palace Manager did not make use of some defenders against Man United that will be no excuse for Man United would have still won the game. They controlled the game, when with the ball, kept possession and also offensive when trying to win the ball
The defense was well rotated and was solid. Harry Maguire played but he was not doing too much in that match I dey I will also say that he was solid in the game.
It was a good game for United they will be ready to do so again tommorow. Bruno should be back on the field as well.
Ten Hag made the right choice and call with thr players involved in his selections.

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September 29, 2023, 08:46:06 AM
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I wonder how they will perform when they get to play against Liverpool or Man city or Arsenal or even Man united.

Before then some of our injuired players will be back from injury to strengthen the team like Reece James that's rumored to be back before the Arsenal game. Infact losing those games won't have worried the fans much if we were winning the smaller teams because everybody knowns we're still in a transition stages and they can't expect everything to be moving smoothly. If we can get back to form with the two lower teams game that's coming up (Fulham and Burnley), playing against the big team won't be an issue too because in those games you don't need to be the best team to win. Our boys just have to be the most determined on the field and they'll get us results. The results isn't necessary a win but a draw we can work with.

I don't even think it will be possible for Chelsea to comfortably win Fulham in their next match coming up on Monday,  Fulham have done better than Chelsea this season so far, it is possible for Fulham to defeat Chelsea.

Chelsea winning that game totally depends on Pochettino starting the right players. Palmer has to retain his place in the starting lineup, same as mudrky. Pochettino shouldn't make a mistake of not starting this two players so they can build on the performance they had last game and he should stop packing defensive players on the field when he's playing a small team. We should be attacking not defending, a 3 man defense is alright and not a 5 man defend against like Fulham. I believe we'll win this game because the spirit of the team is high, you can see how pump they were when they scored against Brighton. The only sad thing is Jackson is suspended but Broja will replace him easily and he won't likely be missed. 2-0 win is my prediction for this game.

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September 29, 2023, 08:54:41 AM
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Chelsea won against Brighton in the cup on midweek so at least they are optimistic of getting another good result.Both teams will be a bit tired as both played midweek and both teams qualified further in the cup,I know Chelsea results are really bad so far in the league and they need desperately to win against this opponent or otherwise if they happen to get another lost game that would be for me the final blow to them which I assume they will not be able to recover anymore and most likely they will be in Championship this year,so this is a final for them which they have to win.
Chelsea has good capital for their success in winning the match against Brighton. This victory should be able to revive the players' enthusiasm for the match against Fulham in the EPL. Pochettino must really be able to make his players fight to get full points in order to rise in the standings. However, if they fail to maintain their good performance again, the Blues will get worse in all the competitions they participate in. For now I really wouldn't bet on Chelsea.



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September 29, 2023, 08:57:48 AM
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You are right. Sometimes we can even see a difference in a club's performance when playing in the EFL and in the Premier League. So Crystal Palace's defeat in the EFL should not make Manchester United careless in the Premier League match. Because the Crystal Palace coach, Roy Hodgson, will definitely be more careful in matches in the Premier League. But I think Erik Ten Heg would also definitely have the same thoughts. And yes, he will definitely focus on this match. Because after all, Manchester United currently really needs points in the Premier League.
Manchester United won 3 - 0 over Crystal Palace in the third round of the EFL Cup but this victory was not a good start for Manchester United because it is not certain that they can still win again against Crystal Palace because in the Premier League both of them have almost equal performance even in the standings the difference is only just one point.

Manchester United fans hope that in the future they can perform quite well in the Premier League and have high hopes that Manchester United this season can finish in the top three or four.
Ten Hag looked very satisfied when he got this victory but this pleasure was only temporary because tomorrow Manchester United might face a stronger team and might not be able to win again.

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September 29, 2023, 09:07:26 AM
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You are right. Sometimes we can even see a difference in a club's performance when playing in the EFL and in the Premier League. So Crystal Palace's defeat in the EFL should not make Manchester United careless in the Premier League match. Because the Crystal Palace coach, Roy Hodgson, will definitely be more careful in matches in the Premier League. But I think Erik Ten Heg would also definitely have the same thoughts. And yes, he will definitely focus on this match. Because after all, Manchester United currently really needs points in the Premier League.
Manchester United won 3 - 0 over Crystal Palace in the third round of the EFL Cup but this victory was not a good start for Manchester United because it is not certain that they can still win again against Crystal Palace because in the Premier League both of them have almost equal performance even in the standings the difference is only just one point.

Manchester United fans hope that in the future they can perform quite well in the Premier League and have high hopes that Manchester United this season can finish in the top three or four.
Ten Hag looked very satisfied when he got this victory but this pleasure was only temporary because tomorrow Manchester United might face a stronger team and might not be able to win again.
Crystal Palace will definitely not use the same strategy as in the EFL. And of course Crystal Palace won't want to be beaten twice in a row. I feel that Crystal Palace will focus more on implementing a defensive strategy in tomorrow's match. And will counterattack when he gets the opportunity.

But my estimate is that Manchester United will probably still win tomorrow's match. It's just that maybe this time the victory was only by a narrow score like 2-1.

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September 29, 2023, 09:09:01 AM
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Next time Chelsea are going to play against Fulham in an away game. After getting a critical win against Brighton in the EFL Cup I assume most people will be wondering if there would be another win coming in the Premier League as well. Fulham are also having difficult days recently. Their defense is even worse as they conceded more goals than Chelsea while scoring the same amount.

Chelsea couldn't beat Fulham in their last two head-to-head games in the league. It would be nice to see this streak being broken by Chelsea here. Jackson scored a goal against Brighton so maybe this would make some boost in his self-confidence level to perform much better against Fulham too. I think Chelsea will win by one goal gap.

The day before yesterday I made a multi-bet where one of the outcomes was Chelsea winning over Fulham with odds of 2.02. I’m also waiting for the end of Chelsea’s unsuccessful streak and want to benefit from it, so the funny thing is that after yesterday’s game the quotes changed not in Chelsea’s favor - now they are 2.06. To be honest, I expected the opposite change.

This is a quite interesting change in their odds indeed. I remember a similar change for Milan against Newcastle in the Champions League. Their odds were increasing and Newcastle even became the favourite side in Italy. I still believed in Milan to win. Maybe they couldn't but their performance was just amazing.

This doesn't mean that I expect another amazing performance this time from Chelsea.  Grin  But at least they should be able to win here despite the increase in their odds. Chelsea desperately need this win to start rising in the standings.

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September 29, 2023, 09:18:49 AM
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Fulham is much better than Chelsea this season and also in terms of points scored although the two are not much different but I think Fulham will be the favorite in this match and it will be a golden opportunity for Fulham to beat Chelsea at home.
Even so I hope you don't bet too much on Fulham winning because this match is difficult for us to predict even though Chelsea is experiencing bad conditions, but I think Chelsea will try their best in this match.
Not only this season, even since last season Fulham has always been better than Chelsea and it looks like this time we will see Fulham again being able to beat Chelsea at home. If we look at the meeting between the two last season, Fulham was able to beat Chelsea at home with a score of 2-1 and I think this time Fulham can do it again with a better score of 2-0 or 3-1 considering that Chelsea is very far from being productive. Another fact about Chelsea is that in September they have not recorded a single goal in the EPL competition so we can see that they will again have difficulty winning in the next match against Fulham. So, it is fitting that Fulham will win very convincingly and I still doubt Chelsea if they continue like this in the future.

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September 29, 2023, 09:23:26 AM
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They are still under the illusion of past glory and it would take them more than two seasons to come back to the Chelsea that everyone knows

Their performance this season means that gamblers should not expect much from Chelsea. I agree with what you said that it will take at least two seasons for Chelsea to rebuild the team into the Chelsea that everyone knows. Maybe even longer than that. I just hope that Chelsea will not become like United where they have been a mid-table team for so long.

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September 29, 2023, 09:25:06 AM
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Chelsea winning that game totally depends on Pochettino starting the right players. Palmer has to retain his place in the starting lineup, same as mudrky. Pochettino shouldn't make a mistake of not starting this two players so they can build on the performance they had last game and he should stop packing defensive players on the field when he's playing a small team. We should be attacking not defending, a 3 man defense is alright and not a 5 man defend against like Fulham. I believe we'll win this game because the spirit of the team is high, you can see how pump they were when they scored against Brighton. The only sad thing is Jackson is suspended but Broja will replace him easily and he won't likely be missed. 2-0 win is my prediction for this game.

Pochetino should not let his love for a certain player cloud his judgement, decisions and choices. Thiago Silva caused some errors during the game over the weekend against Villa. If he died improve he should be dropped.
Against Fulham it is a match between two londoners Chelsea must do all they can to makeup for all the draws and loses they have seen.
In addition, Palmer, Caicedo Enzo Fernandez and Mudryk should all start. Once Injured players returns some players will kt make the lineup again.

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September 29, 2023, 09:47:19 AM
Last edit: September 29, 2023, 10:01:47 AM by Nheer
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Chelsea winning that game totally depends on Pochettino starting the right players. Palmer has to retain his place in the starting lineup, same as mudrky. Pochettino shouldn't make a mistake of not starting this two players so they can build on the performance they had last game and he should stop packing defensive players on the field when he's playing a small team. We should be attacking not defending, a 3 man defense is alright and not a 5 man defend against like Fulham. I believe we'll win this game because the spirit of the team is high, you can see how pump they were when they scored against Brighton. The only sad thing is Jackson is suspended but Broja will replace him easily and he won't likely be missed. 2-0 win is my prediction for this game.
I agree with you on this, Mudryk and Palmer have been showing positive impact on the team and their confidence have increased so well that the coach should understand and keep building on the momentum. Mudryk’s performance have improved in recent matches even though the goals and assists are not coming in yet but if the coach can consistently start him in matches i am sure the goals and assists will come in and this improvement could be due to starting couple of matches.

Poch should start having trust in his attackers and stop playing too many defenders than he should and keep giving palmer and Mudryk the chance they need,  i am certain he would start sterling ahead of palmer in our next match which is not right to me. 3 man defense is not alright because it’s a 5 men defense in disguise since the wing midfielders are mostly defenders, which are likely to be Gusto and Chilwell if Gusto was not suspended so he should just play a 4 men defense instead to make room for more attackers.

I think you should not be sure about Chelsea winning the game against Fulham because they are not in the form and their team obviously is under pressure.
It’s true that their performances is getting worse with time. Chelsea is currently going through alot so we can’t be certain of matches they can win anymore so let’s not see them as the big team they use to be, all are in the past now. They have good quality players and enough squad depth to even challenge for the league but until they can figure out where there problem lies and find a solution to it fast they will still struggle throughout this season as well. Fulham maybes the under dog but they are not a team you can write off easily even if chelsea are not struggling they will give them a good fight.

…even some small clubs Chelsea has a big chances of wining but they cannot so even wining Brighton this week doesn't determine there chances of wining Fulham on there next match on less improve there performance but although Fulham also is not much in a good form considering there other matches so the two clubs are just on the same form which will make there match against Chelsea very tough.
I was so disappointed in Chelsea when they dropped points to some of the easiest opponents in the league they could have picked maximum points from. Losing to Nottingham and a draw with Bournemouth was so frustrating for me as a Chelsea fan, i just knew from that moment that we will have a terrible season. If we can’t win against these teams what will happen when we face stronger opponents? It’s going to be a long season for us and at times i just wish they should just start a new season already.

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September 29, 2023, 09:48:50 AM
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You are right. Sometimes we can even see a difference in a club's performance when playing in the EFL and in the Premier League. So Crystal Palace's defeat in the EFL should not make Manchester United careless in the Premier League match. Because the Crystal Palace coach, Roy Hodgson, will definitely be more careful in matches in the Premier League. But I think Erik Ten Heg would also definitely have the same thoughts. And yes, he will definitely focus on this match. Because after all, Manchester United currently really needs points in the Premier League.
Manchester United won 3 - 0 over Crystal Palace in the third round of the EFL Cup but this victory was not a good start for Manchester United because it is not certain that they can still win again against Crystal Palace because in the Premier League both of them have almost equal performance even in the standings the difference is only just one point.

Manchester United seems quite better than Crystal Palace in their previous match. You are right in saying this is not a good start for them because we noticed how their performance has been moving from the start of the season. However, I think having the same point doesn’t guarantee the winner of the game in an English Premier League competition, so we should wait and see, and if you say this is the point to be followed, then definitely Manchester United's performance looks greater than that of Crystal Palace. However, we can say, Let's wait and see what happens tomorrow.

Manchester United fans hope that in the future they can perform quite well in the Premier League and have high hopes that Manchester United this season can finish in the top three or four.
Ten Hag looked very satisfied when he got this victory but this pleasure was only temporary because tomorrow Manchester United might face a stronger team and might not be able to win again.

Manchester United are still going to face Crystal Palace tomorrow. Nothing is new that they will face a big team again. Because when we said Manchester United are facing Crystal Palace, then definitely Crystal Palace are not a big team to them. I’m not trying to guarantee winning from them despite the fact that their performances look a little bit poor this season, but since they have played with Crystal Palace in the EFL competition and they win, I can say I still have hope on them to still have something good tomorrow because we cannot say their victory is luck; 3 goals are not only by luck; we still need to include their performance well to get it.

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September 29, 2023, 09:49:39 AM
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I wonder how they will perform when they get to play against Liverpool or Man city or Arsenal or even Man united.
Chelsea do not have to look too far ahead, they actually don't have to worry about the big teams for now, what matters is the next game and they have to stop losing games that they have a high probability of winning. The most important thing for Chelsea to do now is to build on their Carabao cup victory, they have to take advantage of the momentum and beat Fulham on Monday, if they do that, it is two wins in a row, and from there they could get the confidence they really need to bring their season to life.
Actually, I agree with you on this. Chelsea's performance has fluctuated recently. They just need to keep the ball moving right now; they don't need to aim for the moon. This match against Fulham is crucial. It is concerning because their victory is not assured despite the rumors and odds. Their victory in the Carabao Cup is something I hope they can build on in order to advance. They now have to concentrate on winning every game. Small victories, in my opinion, will be what give them the motivation and confidence they require. They might be able to restart their season with a victory over Fulham

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September 29, 2023, 09:55:55 AM
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Fulham is much better than Chelsea this season and also in terms of points scored although the two are not much different but I think Fulham will be the favorite in this match and it will be a golden opportunity for Fulham to beat Chelsea at home.
Even so I hope you don't bet too much on Fulham winning because this match is difficult for us to predict even though Chelsea is experiencing bad conditions, but I think Chelsea will try their best in this match.
Not only this season, even since last season Fulham has always been better than Chelsea and it looks like this time we will see Fulham again being able to beat Chelsea at home. If we look at the meeting between the two last season, Fulham was able to beat Chelsea at home with a score of 2-1 and I think this time Fulham can do it again with a better score of 2-0 or 3-1 considering that Chelsea is very far from being productive. Another fact about Chelsea is that in September they have not recorded a single goal in the EPL competition so we can see that they will again have difficulty winning in the next match against Fulham. So, it is fitting that Fulham will win very convincingly and I still doubt Chelsea if they continue like this in the future.
Even though they still don't appear consistent, the victory over Brighton should be able to spark enthusiasm for the Chelsea players to win the match again against Fulham. Yes, in the last two seasons the Blues have been so down that it is easy for anyone to win three points. For this week's match I believe Chelsea will be hunting for victory again, in the betting market they don't have a big chance of winning but I believe the Blues will be able to overcome Fulham's resistance.

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September 29, 2023, 10:01:51 AM
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Even though they still don't appear consistent, the victory over Brighton should be able to spark enthusiasm for the Chelsea players to win the match again against Fulham.

I do not think the victory over brighton can give the chelsea lads any spark or ginger or vibes to defeat fulham on saturday. They played a rotated Brighton side in the carabao cup. In the EPL this weekend, Chelsea will play a full strenght Fulham side and they must aim to score atleast 2 goals if they want to defeat fulham because the fulham team will always score a goal or 2

Can this chelsea side score 2 goals? Can they even find the target once in the EPL? This are hard questions Chelsea does not have proofs for.
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I don't think he has anything to apologize for after all the coach is finding it hard to admit that he has done wrong.  Sancho on the other hand, has only committed one offense which is not being in his best form, so why on earth would the coach say he's not doing well in training? The player said he's doing fine, if the coach don't like him is best to say Sancho isn't in his plan and let the player start packing his stuff to any available club.
I have this feeling that this issue is on the palm of the coach, and I don't see this as a sign of discipline at all, ETH doesn't like Sancho and it won't help the team.
I don't think Sancho would help the team as well, instead of allowing his pride make his form to reduce more why not apologise to the coach so as to start training with the first team, maybe the coach would give him a chance to prove himself and show to the fans that the coach was wrong, by displaying a very good performance on the pitch, after all Wambissaka was also called and even benched for Dalot but the coach but he worked hard to improve and impressed the coach.

 Erik Ten Hag is the coach of Manchester United and he knows what's best for his team, if they coach says you're not doing fine, or meeting up with his standards, then it's left for the player to be very punctual in the training ground and work hard to be at his best, instead of replying back to the coaches comment like Sancho did, a disrespect to the coach is like disrespecting the club, Sancho won't dare try such a thing if it were in Sir Alex Ferguson's era, i don't even think he would've made the 1st team.

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