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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 84 (45.2%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.7%)
Arsenal - 39 (21%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 13 (7%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 186

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November 10, 2023, 04:59:42 AM
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If Ten Hag really want to improve Manchester united in the remaining matches, he should start benching any player that do anyhow in their training or inside the match, so that those forming oldest players in the team will learn their lesson by benching them like two matches for them to know their offence.
You sounds like Manchester United have other quality players in bench.

In keeper position they have: Onana, Heaton and Bayindir, Heaton only play 3 match in 3 years while Bayindir is a new goalkeeper from Fernebahce which has a difference in terms of competitiveness.

In defender position they have (not injured): Evans, Varane, Maguire, Lindelof, Reguilon, Dalot and Bissaka. Only both Varane and Dalot are good defenders, while the other are forced to play since Ten Hag don't have any option.
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November 10, 2023, 05:19:43 AM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.
Yes, I admit that the performance of the Manchester United team is very bad at the moment, Manchester United has experienced 9 defeats so far in 17 matches, although there is a lot of pressure from a number of Man Utd fans. However, this does not seem to dampen Ten Hag enthusiasm to continue to improve the performance of his players to continue coaching Manchester United and I heard rumors circulating that if Sir Alex Ferguson, the former Manchester United coach, still supports Ten Hag to continue coaching this club.
Manchester United must do more be patient and enjoy the current process by changing coaches, it seems like it would be the same if Manchester United lacked qualified players because what I see seems to be Ten Hag having difficulty building cooperation with the current players so Manchester Utd continues to experience decline, but I hope Ten Hag moves Hurry to immediately improve the quality of the current players because Ten Hag still has a long time to improve the club performance.

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November 10, 2023, 05:53:39 AM
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Chelsea again gained momentum to bounce back, after the momentum was able to hold Arsenal to a draw but failed in the next match, now the momentum came when they managed to beat Tottenham even though the victory was due to the fact that their opponents played with only 9 players which gave Chelsea a big advantage.
Facing Manchester City at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea will again face a quite difficult match, they are not the favorite team even though they are playing at home because the victory over Tottenham cannot be used as a benchmark that Chelsea has improved, it's just that there is an opportunity for them to make a surprise even if it doesn't win the match but being able to get just one point would be a good thing for Chelsea because Manchester City is a very consistent team after the two consecutive defeats they experienced City managed to recover quickly, so even though there is a chance for Chelsea to beat City, it is very small.

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November 10, 2023, 08:03:20 AM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.
I think that currently, it's not just Onana or Maguire who often make mistakes. Because I see other players are now starting to do the same thing. I think this squad's teamwork has really gotten worse. It's as if they want to be individual players who stand out. In the back line, it's not just Maguire who is getting worse but the others are the same. Maybe it's true that Maguire often makes mistakes, be it because of hand balls or whatever. But I actually saw that another mistake made by Manchester United's defenders was that they were not smart enough in controlling and stopping opposing players. Often opposing players can move freely in areas that should be closely guarded by Manchester United defenders. It's as if the Manchester United players don't know what to do. This squad's attacking line players are also sometimes too selfish. Yes, sometimes they push themselves too hard even in a difficult position. I don't know what ETH did to make it difficult for this squad to build good cooperation. Because individually I know the quality of Manchester United players is very good. But they are currently bad at building cooperation in the Manchester United squad. And whatever the reason, it is natural that Ten Heg will be the one who will be most pressured and criticized. His position could even be threatened if this squad does not improve in the middle of the season.

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November 10, 2023, 08:14:41 AM
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Well looks like this upcoming weekend have a lot of beautiful games to parlay together like Tottenham,Arsenal,Man.Utd and Newcastle which would make a nice odd in general,I doubt any of these teams will lose although I never exclude surprise results from happening in the Premier League,in fact surprise results are the most distinguishing factor for this league,anyway it does not hurt to try and parlay together all these games of the Saturday.

Also on Sunday we can have somewhat some more difficult games that can be parlayed together too but let's see how Saturday ends up and then think about Sunday.

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November 10, 2023, 08:18:14 AM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.
It is only natural that some fans criticize and criticize and even do something that should not be done because they see their beloved club at a point where it is very disappointing. Surprisingly, when the players made so many mistakes, Erik Ten Hag still gave a lot of trust to his players. I understand he may not have many options, but he should be able to trust and rotate players more fully. I also know it's not the right time to do that, but with what they're showing at the moment, there's nothing wrong with them trying to do it, even though experimenting also carries a huge risk.

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November 10, 2023, 08:29:29 AM
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Well looks like this upcoming weekend have a lot of beautiful games to parlay together like Tottenham,Arsenal,Man.Utd and Newcastle which would make a nice odd in general,I doubt any of these teams will lose although I never exclude surprise results from happening in the Premier League,in fact surprise results are the most distinguishing factor for this league,anyway it does not hurt to try and parlay together all these games of the Saturday.

Also on Sunday we can have somewhat some more difficult games that can be parlayed together too but let's see how Saturday ends up and then think about Sunday.
The game between Totthenham Hurtspur and Wolves is a game that will be very tough because Totthenham have a lot of injury worries and problems,and according to rumours,Maddison is doubtful for that game due to injury,and it may affect their performances on the pitch.However,I still believe they will have a way of grinding out a win despite the injury and the red card given to one of their player.While the Arsenal game will be a workover for the gunners after their excellent display against Sevilla in champions league group stage.
They still have that energy and mumentum to get a good result and bounce back from the defeat they had in premier league against Newcastle.

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November 10, 2023, 08:32:40 AM
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Well looks like this upcoming weekend have a lot of beautiful games to parlay together like Tottenham,Arsenal,Man.Utd and Newcastle which would make a nice odd in general,I doubt any of these teams will lose although I never exclude surprise results from happening in the Premier League,in fact surprise results are the most distinguishing factor for this league,anyway it does not hurt to try and parlay together all these games of the Saturday.

Also on Sunday we can have somewhat some more difficult games that can be parlayed together too but let's see how Saturday ends up and then think about Sunday.
The game between Totthenham Hurtspur and Wolves is a game that will be very tough because Totthenham have a lot of injury worries and problems,and according to rumours,Maddison is doubtful for that game due to injury,and it may affect their performances on the pitch.However,I still believe they will have a way of grinding out a win despite the injury and the red card given to one of their player.While the Arsenal game will be a workover for the gunners after their excellent display against Sevilla in champions league group stage.
They still have that energy and mumentum to get a good result and bounce back from the defeat they had in premier league against Newcastle.

I also think that out of these 4 games Tottenham is the most difficult one and the odd should be near 2 for them because of that horrible display in front of their home fans this last Monday against Chelsea.It needs a really huge psychological motivation to come back with a strong win after such defeat yet the team they are playing against is not one of the strongest and they were also not able to win against one of the bottom standings team last week so overall there should be no really big problems getting a win for Tottenham.

Arsenal impressed everyone on this midweek game as they totally dominated the game despite only scoring 2 goals.

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November 10, 2023, 08:33:35 AM
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Yes, I admit that the performance of the Manchester United team is very bad at the moment, Manchester United has experienced 9 defeats so far in 17 matches, although there is a lot of pressure from a number of Man Utd fans. However, this does not seem to dampen Ten Hag enthusiasm to continue to improve the performance of his players to continue coaching Manchester United and I heard rumors circulating that if Sir Alex Ferguson, the former Manchester United coach, still supports Ten Hag to continue coaching this club.
But if I may ask do you think Manchester United still have the chance to peak form this season?,  because what I'm seeing in this season concerning there performance is not encouraging at all, there losing is even more higher than there winnings, I could remember those days when they are in a good form and they always maintain first or second position on the premier League table every season do to there good performance.

Well Manchester United should just try and think things through to know were there failure is coming from and how to improve on that area to enable them come back to the next season with a good performance.

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November 10, 2023, 08:50:33 AM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.

Onana has not been putting in his best this season and is now looking as if Manchester United doesn't have a keeper to some extent, I feel Maguire has even improved even to the extent he scored when last did Maguire score a goal, that's an improvement and I know manchester united have been looking for ways to sell Maguire but no club as interest yet. Manchester United's situation is bad concerning sixteen goals is no child play, and their defense is just too weak, is either ten hag works on the goalkeeper or the defense because the two clubs need replacement. the fans are not happy with the state of Manchester United's performance, there won't be any serious change now because even when they play against weak clubs they still lose.

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November 10, 2023, 08:53:44 AM
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Not only strengthen the defenders, Onana also needs to improve his performance and avoid unnecessary mistakes. I think Onana also still didn't play consistently, he probably still adapts with Man United players and tactics. But he must adapt quickly because it will bring big impact for Man United if he fail to adapt well. He must be aware that he is Man United main goalkeeper now.



That's the importance of Onana's role. He must adapt really quickly to the players in the back line so he doesn't make unnecessary mistakes in communication with several Manchester United players. I think Manchester United will not make it through to the next round in the UCL. They will likely fail because Manchester United is really not ready to be in a big league like the UCL this season.

I think they can focus on the EPL this season, there is still a lot of time to improve their current position, at least they can be at the top to be able to prove that Manchester United can rise from adversity, that's why Onana should ensure that he is the main goalkeeper who has an obligation guard closely so that the goal is not easily conceded and avoid losing again.

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You are right that Chelsea and Manchester United can be called unstable teams when we believed they could win when playing at home but the opposite happened it's really hard to predict, I still remember when Chelsea beat Tottenham of course no one thought Chelsea would win moreover Tottenham still holds an unbeaten record but after 2 red cards the situation changed drastically Chelsea took control and scored 4 goals, I never forget this moment and I call it a bookie's trap because previously the odds for Tottenham to win were only @ 2.00 normally it's @1.6 because Tottenham is in a positive trend and playing at home so it doesn't make sense if the odds are high.

People expected an easy win for Tottenham in the match, everyone was surprised to see Chelsea win the match. I know the red card affected Tottenham, but even without the red card, I am sure the match may end in a draw. We all notice that when Chelsea are playing against a strong team, they are always playing well, so I expected a draw from the match before it started, but since Tottenham had two red cards, Chelsea took advantage of the red card, and they were able to secure three points in the match. I always have confidence in Chelsea when playing against strong teams. I know if they can’t win, they will be able to draw, but when playing against weaker teams, I do believe that anything can happen.
 
Chelsea's next match will be against Manchester City. I am expecting Chelsea to perform well in the match, but as we can see, Manchester City is not a club that you will toy with. I won’t be surprised if Manchester City wins the match, but it won’t be with much goal difference. I don’t think Chelsea will be able to win or draw the match.

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Yes, I admit that the performance of the Manchester United team is very bad at the moment, Manchester United has experienced 9 defeats so far in 17 matches, although there is a lot of pressure from a number of Man Utd fans. However, this does not seem to dampen Ten Hag enthusiasm to continue to improve the performance of his players to continue coaching Manchester United and I heard rumors circulating that if Sir Alex Ferguson, the former Manchester United coach, still supports Ten Hag to continue coaching this club.
But if I may ask do you think Manchester United still have the chance to peak form this season?,  because what I'm seeing in this season concerning there performance is not encouraging at all, there losing is even more higher than there winnings, I could remember those days when they are in a good form and they always maintain first or second position on the premier League table every season do to there good performance.

Well Manchester United should just try and think things through to know were there failure is coming from and how to improve on that area to enable them come back to the next season with a good performance.
Manchester United lost all ground. Everything has been wasted, time and effort, but I don’t understand why! Rather, it’s all a waste of time and energy for the fans.
As for me, this is the end of the history of a good and successful club..
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People expected an easy win for Tottenham in the match, everyone was surprised to see Chelsea win the match. I know the red card affected Tottenham, but even without the red card, I am sure the match may end in a draw. We all notice that when Chelsea are playing against a strong team, they are always playing well, so I expected a draw from the match before it started, but since Tottenham had two red cards, Chelsea took advantage of the red card, and they were able to secure three points in the match. I always have confidence in Chelsea when playing against strong teams. I know if they can’t win, they will be able to draw, but when playing against weaker teams, I do believe that anything can happen.
 
Chelsea's next match will be against Manchester City. I am expecting Chelsea to perform well in the match, but as we can see, Manchester City is not a club that you will toy with. I won’t be surprised if Manchester City wins the match, but it won’t be with much goal difference. I don’t think Chelsea will be able to win or draw the match.
Chelsea's victory over Tottenham cannot be used as a complete reference that they have marked a turning point in performance, I agree with you that Man City is difficult to beat even though Pochettino squad is high in confidence. It's true that Chelsea is still an elite team in the EPL, we can't just call it bad because they've been inconsistent all this time, it's clear they can create a lot of surprises. However, if the Blues succeed in beating Man City at Stamford Bridge, then Pep squad strength this season is questionable.

If Chelsea play well then the best result they can achieve is a draw, it would take a bit of a miracle to make Pep Guardiola disappointed with his team. However, we cannot possibly forget that Man City have also lost so far, so anything can happen.

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November 10, 2023, 09:54:56 AM
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Manchester United lost all ground. Everything has been wasted, time and effort, but I don’t understand why! Rather, it’s all a waste of time and energy for the fans.
As for me, this is the end of the history of a good and successful club..
Manchester United have been absent for the last decade from the Premier League title. They have not been able to win the title since they last won it in the 2012/2012 season, and so far Manchester City have dominated the title by winning 6 titles. Chelsea won 2/10 titles in the last 10 seasons, while Leicester and Liverpool each secured 1 title.

Manchester United are done and they will be hard pressed to return to their former glory. Sir Alex Ferguson was the last coach to win the title for Manchester United and that happened 10 seasons ago. We know that Manchester United is the only team that has won 20 Premier League titles so far, they are only 1 title ahead of Liverpool and 7 titles ahead of Arsenal. Manchester City can overtake anyone if they can maintain their best form over the next 10 to 15 seasons, but I think the story will never be the same because there will be players who come and go in that time frame.

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November 10, 2023, 10:27:22 AM
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Not only strengthen the defenders, Onana also needs to improve his performance and avoid unnecessary mistakes. I think Onana also still didn't play consistently, he probably still adapts with Man United players and tactics. But he must adapt quickly because it will bring big impact for Man United if he fail to adapt well. He must be aware that he is Man United main goalkeeper now.

That's the importance of Onana's role. He must adapt really quickly to the players in the back line so he doesn't make unnecessary mistakes in communication with several Manchester United players. I think Manchester United will not make it through to the next round in the UCL. They will likely fail because Manchester United is really not ready to be in a big league like the UCL this season.

I think they can focus on the EPL this season, there is still a lot of time to improve their current position, at least they can be at the top to be able to prove that Manchester United can rise from adversity, that's why Onana should ensure that he is the main goalkeeper who has an obligation guard closely so that the goal is not easily conceded and avoid losing again.

This is no longer an adaptation problem for Onana, but the task that Erik Ten Hag gave him is very burdensome. I mean if we look at Onana arrival at Manchester United, Ten Hag puts more pressure on the goalkeeper attacks (build up) every match which is almost obvious and this tactic is completely ineffective. You must have seen when Build Up starts from Onana then passes to the defender - Onana - back to the defender while the opponent presses to reduce the distance, sometimes a passing error occurs and Onana throws it away. Such is Ten Hag strategy that he spends a lot of time not knowing when the front line players are needed to distract the opponent. There's nothing strange at first glance, but if you look closely, Erik Ten Hag Build Up doesn't catch the opponent off guard because they already know Ten Hag's cheap tactics.

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November 10, 2023, 10:27:47 AM
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Manchester United are done and they will be hard pressed to return to their former glory. Sir Alex Ferguson was the last coach to win the title for Manchester United and that happened 10 seasons ago. We know that Manchester United is the only team that has won 20 Premier League titles so far, they are only 1 title ahead of Liverpool and 7 titles ahead of Arsenal. Manchester City can overtake anyone if they can maintain their best form over the next 10 to 15 seasons, but I think the story will never be the same because there will be players who come and go in that time frame.
After the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson Manchester United hired several coaches which include David Moyes, Ryan Giggs, Louis van Gaal and José Mourinho. Others include Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Michael Carrick, Ralf Rangnick and now Erik ten Hag. The most successful of them all is Mourinho who won the Community Shield, the Carabao Cup and the Europa League and also took the club to finish second in the EPL. Moyes and van Gaal were good coaches that the club expected much from but they ended up achieving little. Will I say that the club has not been lucky in choosing the right coach? But ten Hag still have the chance to prove his worth.    

Chelsea's victory over Tottenham cannot be used as a complete reference that they have marked a turning point in performance, I agree with you that Man City is difficult to beat even though Pochettino squad is high in confidence. It's true that Chelsea is still an elite team in the EPL, we can't just call it bad because they've been inconsistent all this time, it's clear they can create a lot of surprises. However, if the Blues succeed in beating Man City at Stamford Bridge, then Pep squad strength this season is questionable.

If Chelsea play well then the best result they can achieve is a draw, it would take a bit of a miracle to make Pep Guardiola disappointed with his team. However, we cannot possibly forget that Man City have also lost so far, so anything can happen.
Chelsea got the maximum three points in the game against Tottenham, which is most important. But that match cannot be used as evidence that Chelsea has improved. Any team could win a team that has lost two players and that Chelsea just maximised their opportunity. The real test is the game against Manchester City. Mauricio Pochettino and the players should prove that they have regained form by winning the current EPL champions.

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November 10, 2023, 10:27:50 AM
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People expected an easy win for Tottenham in the match, everyone was surprised to see Chelsea win the match. I know the red card affected Tottenham, but even without the red card, I am sure the match may end in a draw. We all notice that when Chelsea are playing against a strong team, they are always playing well, so I expected a draw from the match before it started, but since Tottenham had two red cards, Chelsea took advantage of the red card, and they were able to secure three points in the match. I always have confidence in Chelsea when playing against strong teams. I know if they can’t win, they will be able to draw, but when playing against weaker teams, I do believe that anything can happen.
 
Chelsea's next match will be against Manchester City. I am expecting Chelsea to perform well in the match, but as we can see, Manchester City is not a club that you will toy with. I won’t be surprised if Manchester City wins the match, but it won’t be with much goal difference. I don’t think Chelsea will be able to win or draw the match.
Chelsea's victory over Tottenham cannot be used as a complete reference that they have marked a turning point in performance, I agree with you that Man City is difficult to beat even though Pochettino squad is high in confidence. It's true that Chelsea is still an elite team in the EPL, we can't just call it bad because they've been inconsistent all this time, it's clear they can create a lot of surprises. However, if the Blues succeed in beating Man City at Stamford Bridge, then Pep squad strength this season is questionable.

If Chelsea play well then the best result they can achieve is a draw, it would take a bit of a miracle to make Pep Guardiola disappointed with his team. However, we cannot possibly forget that Man City have also lost so far, so anything can happen.
Chelsea are full of surprises but at this time I don't expect any surprise between them and Manchester City, even against them and Tottenham Hotspur the only took the advantage of two red cards and get motivated to score goals, but Manchester City are different from Tottenham that they played nine against eleven with, so their victory in the match can not justify the next match. I quite agree with you that if really Chelsea perform they may end draw but right now Chelsea to win Manchester City who currently on the top of the table and also one of the strongest team in English Premier league with the highest goal scorer this season, I will not said anything folder let just wait for tomorrow and see whether Chelsea will perform miracle and win or Manchester City will win.

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November 10, 2023, 10:33:39 AM
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Manchester United lost all ground. Everything has been wasted, time and effort, but I don’t understand why! Rather, it’s all a waste of time and energy for the fans.
As for me, this is the end of the history of a good and successful club..
Manchester United have been absent for the last decade from the Premier League title. They have not been able to win the title since they last won it in the 2012/2012 season, and so far Manchester City have dominated the title by winning 6 titles. Chelsea won 2/10 titles in the last 10 seasons, while Leicester and Liverpool each secured 1 title.

Manchester United are done and they will be hard pressed to return to their former glory. Sir Alex Ferguson was the last coach to win the title for Manchester United and that happened 10 seasons ago. We know that Manchester United is the only team that has won 20 Premier League titles so far, they are only 1 title ahead of Liverpool and 7 titles ahead of Arsenal. Manchester City can overtake anyone if they can maintain their best form over the next 10 to 15 seasons, but I think the story will never be the same because there will be players who come and go in that time frame.
You are a million percent right.
Decades ago, Manchester United was a legendary club whose roster simply made you watch this amazing game. Legends like Runny and Giggs made the game of football simply gorgeous and exciting. You could watch it for hours.
But time has passed and now we see a pitiful sight. The team simply fell to the bottom of the tables...
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November 10, 2023, 10:40:05 AM
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Chelsea are full of surprises but at this time I don't expect any surprise between them and Manchester City, even against them and Tottenham Hotspur the only took the advantage of two red cards and get motivated to score goals, but Manchester City are different from Tottenham that they played nine against eleven with, so their victory in the match can not justify the next match. I quite agree with you that if really Chelsea perform they may end draw but right now Chelsea to win Manchester City who currently on the top of the table and also one of the strongest team in English Premier league with the highest goal scorer this season, I will not said anything folder let just wait for tomorrow and see whether Chelsea will perform miracle and win or Manchester City will win.
Chelsea's success in beating Tottenham deserves appreciation, considering that was the first defeat for Ange squad this season. However, this victory was a victory where luck played a bigger role, yes, that's the red card I mean. On the other hand, Pochettino squad latest victory will not mean much if in their other matches they will fail, they will again sink at the hands of Man City.

On paper, I don't doubt the quality of Pep Guardiola squad at all, and I also can't underestimate Chelsea. Who would have thought that a surprise would happen again, and we would all be surprised again by the results.

But whatever the scenario, I think betting on City winning is still very safe, because we know the risk is smaller. Chelsea only benefited from playing at home, on the other hand I saw many things that made Pep's squad worthy of being superior.

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