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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
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August 18, 2022, 03:56:07 PM
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Hey guys here's a fun fact.  The last time Manchester United lost their first two matches, they went on to win the league that season.  Cheesy  Look it up...  Am I saying they're gonna win the league.  Nope.  But it happened.  What I do think will happen is we could see United lose their first three matches of the season.  They're up against Liverpool next, tho Klopp's boys haven't gotten their bearings straight yet, they're def better than United rn.

When was the last time United had losses in their first three matches of the season?  I don't think it has ever happened in the EPL era.

And what do you guys think of Liverpool to win and under 4.5 goals at 2.04?  Seems like a good safe bet.

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August 18, 2022, 04:09:04 PM
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Man.United should rebuild from scratch at this point as I'm afraid the current team don't have a winner mentality ( besides CR7 ) as they didn't win any trophy in their last years to make them have that hunger of performing on a higher level on every game they have. And from this mentality , they snowball into more problems and in the end , I'm afraid that no one can save united but themselves and this is what Ten Haag is trying to implement in their minds because the entire locker room thinks they are the best players when in reality , they are just a mediocre team but full of talents and individually skills but that won't save them unfortunately so they need to figure it out soon how to be a team when they enter in that pitch.

Theoretically, everything that you have listed depends on the coach. But so far I don't see that Ten Hag did a really good job with the team even though he had plenty of time. Even if we do not take the second completely failed match, then in the first game it was clearly visible that the team was playing according to a non-working scheme. I don't know what Ten Hag will come up with for the game with Liverpool but I'll be glad to see even an attempt by some allin than a "reliable" game without a result (even a draw will not be enough).

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August 18, 2022, 04:52:16 PM
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Hey guys here's a fun fact.  The last time Manchester United lost their first two matches, they went on to win the league that season.  Cheesy  Look it up...  Am I saying they're gonna win the league.  Nope.  But it happened.  What I do think will happen is we could see United lose their first three matches of the season.  They're up against Liverpool next, tho Klopp's boys haven't gotten their bearings straight yet, they're def better than United rn.

When was the last time United had losses in their first three matches of the season?  I don't think it has ever happened in the EPL era.

And what do you guys think of Liverpool to win and under 4.5 goals at 2.04?  Seems like a good safe bet.
Every big team passes through a phase, a difficult time at a certain level. The phase is not the big deal but to stay United and support the team at the period of the difficulties is the most important thing. The game might either end in draw or Liverpool will win. Liverpool to win and under 4.5 is a good tips thou. But to be at safer side, you can double chance Liverpool.
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August 18, 2022, 05:17:35 PM
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Hey guys here's a fun fact.  The last time Manchester United lost their first two matches, they went on to win the league that season.  Cheesy  Look it up...  Am I saying they're gonna win the league.  Nope.  But it happened.  What I do think will happen is we could see United lose their first three matches of the season.  They're up against Liverpool next, tho Klopp's boys haven't gotten their bearings straight yet, they're def better than United rn.

When was the last time United had losses in their first three matches of the season?  I don't think it has ever happened in the EPL era.

And what do you guys think of Liverpool to win and under 4.5 goals at 2.04?  Seems like a good safe bet.
Every big team passes through a phase, a difficult time at a certain level. The phase is not the big deal but to stay United and support the team at the period of the difficulties is the most important thing. The game might either end in draw or Liverpool will win. Liverpool to win and under 4.5 is a good tips thou. But to be at safer side, you can double chance Liverpool.
Am not a Liverpool fans though, but I can not carry Manchester United to win against Liverpool not in this game because Manchester Unitedteam are presently disoriented and they don't have that capacity to win or even draw with Liverpool, a lot has happened with the club and the negative effect of that is what we are witnessing.

But then under 4.5 may be a good bet though but I can't double chance Liverpool for winning as that will be a duplicated bet because am confident that Liverpool will have a smooth winning in this match.
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August 18, 2022, 05:36:02 PM
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In the English Premier League, if we look at the message on the 20th, we will see that there is a game between Tottenham and Wolves. Considering the current game of the two teams, I will put forwardTottenham. Because currently this team is in a very good condition in the English Premier League. Their ability to win this match is about 70%. However, in football, those who do well on the field usually win the match We will have to wait till the 20th to see who wins the 20th English Premier League match.

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August 18, 2022, 05:45:37 PM
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West Ham has not been that impressive as last year but I am interested to see how will they behave against a really weaker opponent in Europa Conference League.They should win comfortably tonight against a team that is more in the 1st division in Denmark than there is on Superliga there.It can boost their confidence for this upcoming week game.They come after 2 lost games in the Premier League so they need to win this game which they should do easily and restore somewhat the lost confidence from these 2 first games of the Premier League.

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August 18, 2022, 05:46:32 PM
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Am not a Liverpool fans though, but I can not carry Manchester United to win against Liverpool not in this game because Manchester Unitedteam are presently disoriented and they don't have that capacity to win or even draw with Liverpool, a lot has happened with the club and the negative effect of that is what we are witnessing.

But then under 4.5 may be a good bet though but I can't double chance Liverpool for winning as that will be a duplicated bet because am confident that Liverpool will have a smooth winning in this match.

We can also compare it with the current betting market as you can see 1.6 for Liverpool win this means that Liverpool is indeed a favorite of gamblers
Another interesting thing is that the gambling market also predicts that there will be many goals at least 3 goals so be careful to bet on under 4.5 goals


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August 18, 2022, 05:55:45 PM
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It is very difficult for Manchester United to replace the players with better ones at the moment. Because indeed they are in crisis and they need to find a way out of this. I wouldn't be very eager to join this version of Manchester United if I was a very qualified player. They need to qualify for the Champions League this season somehow but it will be a very difficult task to do for them. Arsenal and Tottenham are even stronger now and Manchester United are way behind them currently.
They don't have to think about where they are now, what they have to think about is how to turn this team to their best. If that was done, then whatever position they wanted it would be easy. Now if they think about position without improving their appearance, what will they get? Degradation? I hope they come back again.
The problem is at the moment they know they want to change their form but with their current condition it is clear it is a very difficult thing to happen so even if they want to but as long as their performance is like this then it will only be an illusion.
At the moment I don't know what they should improve in this case because indeed they have done everything but still this is still failing.

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August 18, 2022, 06:00:01 PM
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The 2022/2023 Premier League has been played for two weeks, but United have only registered David de Gea and Tom Heaton as goalkeepers. United are now looking for various goalkeeper candidates, including Yann Sommer and Asmir Begovic, to add to their roster.

Yann Sommer, 33, has participated in the Champions League and has represented his country at two World Cups and two European Championships, giving him a wealth of experience at the best level. After making his Premier League debut in 2009 for Portsmouth, Asmir Begovic, just 35 years old, went on to play for Stoke, Chelsea, Bournemouth and Everton before rising to league prominence.
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August 18, 2022, 06:07:22 PM
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Well, in this case, Liverpool too from attack are still very good, but when you look at their productivity and finishing in the last 2 matches, it's still a little difficult for Liverpool.
As for Manchester United, this is even worse than Liverpool and they are now just a mockery of other teams which makes it difficult for them.
Liverpool is still playing the same pattern they played last season, and that affected their performance greatly if we will recall Liverpool started last season with bad points in the first 3 matches meanwhile their rival Manchester City was busy gathering the points just like what we are seeing now.
It wasn't a pattern because it was clearly not part of their strategy of not being able to take points there.
They were really lacking at the start of this season and indeed this is not as expected because if they continue to do things like this then their chances of competing are increasingly difficult because now it looks like City are ready to step on the gas.
Even though the league is still there, there's nothing wrong with competing from the start because it's better I think.

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August 18, 2022, 06:46:04 PM
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Liverpool team is kind of weak this season as they recorded two draws in the league. Jurgen Klopp not happy about his team results, they would be facing Manchester United next. It's definitely going to be highly tough as both clubs need the winning points. Erik ten Hag wants to record a goal for United and also a winning points, same thing applies to the reds, who wants 3 points. I'm supporting Liverpool because in their previous games played, they need winning, especially their previous game against Crystal palace.
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Although Liverpool did not manage to win any of their first two games, their performances were still quite superior and dominant. So I don’t really think Nunez absence will create a space in that attack. They have Firmino, he is now fit after missing the home game against Crystal Palace and will likely start against Manchester United so they will have that attacking presence and they’d fancy securing their first win.
Liverpool did play fairly well in their last two games against Fulham and Crystal Palace, but they were very far from being dominant, if you watched their first game against Fulham, they didn't play too well in the first half, Fulham were arguably the better team in the first half, though Liverpool played a much better second half, but not entirely dominating; same thing against Palace, though i guess it is difficult to break down teams that set out to defend from the get-go.

Having said that, if Liverpool are going to compete for the title this season, then they must improve on their performances, they have not been at their very best lately, and they can't alllow City to run clear of them, or else the League could be in City's hands yet again quite early. Liverpool will definitely miss Nunez, i don't know if Firminho is fully fit, and with the other injuries they have, they'd need more players to increase their squad depth, but sadly Nunez is going to miss a couple of games for his misconduct.
Sorry, I don't agree with you. Crystal Palace is not a big team, so Liverpool should have won easily against them, but sadly, Liverpool can't get full points and they can only draw at home, and I don't think it's a good achievement for them. They do have to play with 10 men but long before Darwin Nunez got a red card they can't even score a goal. I think there were at least some good chances that should have been goals in the first half but they were only able to score after the red card incident.

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August 18, 2022, 07:10:13 PM
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Although Liverpool did not manage to win any of their first two games, their performances were still quite superior and dominant. So I don’t really think Nunez absence will create a space in that attack. They have Firmino, he is now fit after missing the home game against Crystal Palace and will likely start against Manchester United so they will have that attacking presence and they’d fancy securing their first win.
Liverpool did play fairly well in their last two games against Fulham and Crystal Palace, but they were very far from being dominant, if you watched their first game against Fulham, they didn't play too well in the first half, Fulham were arguably the better team in the first half, though Liverpool played a much better second half, but not entirely dominating; same thing against Palace, though i guess it is difficult to break down teams that set out to defend from the get-go.

Having said that, if Liverpool are going to compete for the title this season, then they must improve on their performances, they have not been at their very best lately, and they can't alllow City to run clear of them, or else the League could be in City's hands yet again quite early. Liverpool will definitely miss Nunez, i don't know if Firminho is fully fit, and with the other injuries they have, they'd need more players to increase their squad depth, but sadly Nunez is going to miss a couple of games for his misconduct.
Sorry, I don't agree with you. Crystal Palace is not a big team, so Liverpool should have won easily against them, but sadly, Liverpool can't get full points and they can only draw at home, and I don't think it's a good achievement for them. They do have to play with 10 men but long before Darwin Nunez got a red card they can't even score a goal. I think there were at least some good chances that should have been goals in the first half but they were only able to score after the red card incident.
Many differences between Crystal Palace and Liverpool. Liverpool is a very strong team We know that Liverpool team went to the UEFA Champions League final last season.  So the audience would never expect such a game from a team like them I think Liverpool's win against Crystal Palace was very important. Because if you get points from relatively small teams, they will help you rank up in the subject.

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It is very difficult for Manchester United to replace the players with better ones at the moment. Because indeed they are in crisis and they need to find a way out of this. I wouldn't be very eager to join this version of Manchester United if I was a very qualified player. They need to qualify for the Champions League this season somehow but it will be a very difficult task to do for them. Arsenal and Tottenham are even stronger now and Manchester United are way behind them currently.
They don't have to think about where they are now, what they have to think about is how to turn this team to their best. If that was done, then whatever position they wanted it would be easy. Now if they think about position without improving their appearance, what will they get? Degradation? I hope they come back again.

Manchester United is currently in crisis. Two consecutive defeats make the Red Devils are now sinking at the bottom of the Premier League standings. Next week they will also face a tough opponent, Liverpool. If we lose again it will be very difficult for Ten Haag and put his future at Old Trafford on the line. In addition, the position of MU will also be very difficult to return to compete at the top of the standings.

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August 18, 2022, 07:13:21 PM
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With the business they've done so far, ATM has no chance of competing for the title, and I don't think Felix values champions league football all that much; if the pay cheque is large enough, he might as well try a new challenge.
Jao Felix is a talented player and I really like his pattern of football. He's skillful with the ball, he's fast and knows when to give the accurate passes. Felix don't seem interested in moving to a new league and I know Diego Simeon pretty liked him and have always includes him in his project. Regarding to Athletico Madrid, they really need improve their squad this season only if they want to compete for the laliga title this season. Felix is among the most valuable player presently in the team and the young Portuguese have more years to play football.

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August 18, 2022, 07:16:10 PM
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We can also compare it with the current betting market as you can see 1.6 for Liverpool win this means that Liverpool is indeed a favorite of gamblers
Another interesting thing is that the gambling market also predicts that there will be many goals at least 3 goals so be careful to bet on under 4.5 goals



Total over 3 = 1.84  Grin

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3rd Goal

Manchester United FC 4.30   Liverpool FC 2.12     None 2.46

4th Goal

Manchester United FC 5.70    Liverpool FC 3.15    None 1.62

It turns out that the bookmakers are very confident that there will be at least 3 goals scored in this game (and most of them will go to United). In my opinion, these are all the results of paper analytics and focus on the mood of the crowd that thinks that United have already drowned, and Liverpool just repeats the "temporary failures" like last season. I think it's skewed odds.

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August 18, 2022, 07:19:46 PM
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Liverpool have been really below the expectations so far. I was waiting for a clear victory for them against Crystal Palace but they failed hard again. They are losing points in very comfortable matches already which causes them to be away from the leader already now. Maybe this is only the beginning of the season but Liverpool should be in-form as soon as possible. They wouldn't like to make an extra effort to get close to Manchester City later on.

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August 18, 2022, 07:20:09 PM
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Although Liverpool did not manage to win any of their first two games, their performances were still quite superior and dominant. So I don’t really think Nunez absence will create a space in that attack. They have Firmino, he is now fit after missing the home game against Crystal Palace and will likely start against Manchester United so they will have that attacking presence and they’d fancy securing their first win.
Liverpool did play fairly well in their last two games against Fulham and Crystal Palace, but they were very far from being dominant, if you watched their first game against Fulham, they didn't play too well in the first half, Fulham were arguably the better team in the first half, though Liverpool played a much better second half, but not entirely dominating; same thing against Palace, though i guess it is difficult to break down teams that set out to defend from the get-go.

Having said that, if Liverpool are going to compete for the title this season, then they must improve on their performances, they have not been at their very best lately, and they can't alllow City to run clear of them, or else the League could be in City's hands yet again quite early. Liverpool will definitely miss Nunez, i don't know if Firminho is fully fit, and with the other injuries they have, they'd need more players to increase their squad depth, but sadly Nunez is going to miss a couple of games for his misconduct.
Sorry, I don't agree with you. Crystal Palace is not a big team, so Liverpool should have won easily against them, but sadly, Liverpool can't get full points and they can only draw at home, and I don't think it's a good achievement for them. They do have to play with 10 men but long before Darwin Nunez got a red card they can't even score a goal. I think there were at least some good chances that should have been goals in the first half but they were only able to score after the red card incident.
The problem of Liverpool now is they hit their player's ceiling, as well as their players, are getting older. Can't maintain good performance throughout a whole season. For example, if you see Nat Phillips like that, you can't blame him because that's his level, can not improve anymore. Midfielders like Carvalho, Milner, and Harvey are all at their level too. Couldn't be any more different or punch more than their weight. Thiago has to accept the fact that he is lucky to be able to play about 20 matches a year.
Now if Liverpool has a lot of money to invest in a new midfielder, they can race in the league with Man City.
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August 18, 2022, 07:23:46 PM
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Hey guys here's a fun fact.  The last time Manchester United lost their first two matches, they went on to win the league that season.  Cheesy  Look it up...  Am I saying they're gonna win the league.  Nope.  But it happened.  What I do think will happen is we could see United lose their first three matches of the season.  They're up against Liverpool next, tho Klopp's boys haven't gotten their bearings straight yet, they're def better than United rn.

When was the last time United had losses in their first three matches of the season?  I don't think it has ever happened in the EPL era.

And what do you guys think of Liverpool to win and under 4.5 goals at 2.04?  Seems like a good safe bet.
Every big team passes through a phase, a difficult time at a certain level. The phase is not the big deal but to stay United and support the team at the period of the difficulties is the most important thing. The game might either end in draw or Liverpool will win. Liverpool to win and under 4.5 is a good tips thou. But to be at safer side, you can double chance Liverpool.

Manchester United surprised us with their start to the league this year. I thought they were going to play badly, but it's very sad that they didn't score in the first 2 weeks. They probably won't score points this week either. We will all be surprised if they can play well against Liverpool, I certainly do not expect them to win this match.
If they can score points from this match, we can be more hopeful for the coming weeks, but it is very difficult Cheesy

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August 18, 2022, 07:33:40 PM
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Many differences between Crystal Palace and Liverpool. Liverpool is a very strong team We know that Liverpool team went to the UEFA Champions League final last season.  So the audience would never expect such a game from a team like them I think Liverpool's win against Crystal Palace was very important. Because if you get points from relatively small teams, they will help you rank up in the subject.
Now it's no longer important to say win or lose because their result is there and Liverpool can't take the full points.
Now they have to focus on the next match because even though Manchester United are still in a slump, it doesn't mean they have to be careless because this could backfire, especially when they have to lose Nunez in this match.

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