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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
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Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
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August 11, 2022, 04:16:09 AM
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This is not even debatable. Arteta is a very good and intelligent manager. From where the team started to where it finished last season, no one on earth would have thought that they were still running for the UCL spot till the last game. With so many young players around you its easy to sway away. I always believe in Arteta because of his role as a former captain and passion for the club. Believing in a youthful team is his main strength and I hope Arsenal will do better and qualify for the Champion league this season.
One of the interesting things about Arteta is that he is willing to bet there, If we can see him last season clearly we still remember that he was almost fired because Arsenal's game was so bad at the start of the season but Arteta was willing to bet there and asked for a little more chance. In the end the bet he made really paid off because indeed his performance improved drastically and is now even better.
But this is quite reasonable. With that much money poured in, it would be outrageous if they were still in the middle position in the league.

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August 11, 2022, 04:22:55 AM
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I think there are two reasons that at least make Ten Hag still choose Maguire as a starter and captain. First one, it could be the decision of Man United's boards, and Ten Hag will have to comply. The second possibility, Maguire's fame was the reason he was chosen regardless of his performance, which Man United had to spend a lot of money on to sign Maguire, and they don't want to waste it. In addition, Maguire is part of the national team, thus triggering a conclusion that if he deserves to play for the English team, then he also deserves to play regularly at Man United.
I don't know why Maguire still as priority for central defender on Manchester United still they have option with Raphaël Varane, Lisandro Martínez and Victor Lindelöf, although still have another option with Eric Bailly. I know with how much expensive transfer values made by Manchester United to get Harry Maguire from Leicester City but he never miss moment made mistake on defensive Manchester United area. I think not fault keep make another tandem on next match when Manchester United against with Brentford, I think Erik Tan Hag need give space with new tandem between Lisandro Martinez with Raphaël Varane on central defender or give an option by using third central defender with Victor Lindelöf.

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August 11, 2022, 04:23:31 AM
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Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.
No man, that's not the best performance from MU. Last game was the worst performance by this team. Can you call a big team like MU lose 2 goal at the first half? that's shit. For a big team like MU and that is too far from its usual performance.
The problems are even exist after a few times MU changed its coach. I don't know why but there's no one who can be the same like sir alex.
Indirectly, many things affect Manchester United not playing in their best performance, since the Ferguson era ended Manchester United lost a coach who could lift the spirits of their players, as evidenced by the matches they played, the mockery of the fans made the players more depressed and unprofessional on the field.

For example, Maguere, before moving to Manchester United this player was quite good at playing at his old club, he was able to secure the final box area very well, but after joining Manchester United, several times made mistakes at the beginning of the game and received a negative response from the fans, so that currently Maguere has not returned to his best form, this is what the new coach of Manchester United must fix, restore the spirit of the players from all pressures, because speaking of quality, all Eropa players already have their own qualities.

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August 11, 2022, 04:36:35 AM
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Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.


I really wonder what those internal crisis are, all I know is that Ronaldo want to left Man Utd, but even before that issue arise, on last season Man Utd has been performing very poorly. Many people has been speculating that Man Utd has internal issue, but I never really see an official or insider statement. And with the current squad that Man Utd has, and how they perform in the pre-season their performance vs Brighton is definitely not the best they can do.

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I really wonder what those internal crisis are, all I know is that Ronaldo want to left Man Utd, but even before that issue arise, on last season Man Utd has been performing very poorly. Many people has been speculating that Man Utd has internal issue, but I never really see an official or insider statement. And with the current squad that Man Utd has, and how they perform in the pre-season their performance vs Brighton is definitely not the best they can do.
in the end the possibility is still only one, they still can't maximize their players now and actually this is a pretty difficult homework even 2 coaches have been victims last season.
Expectations for Ten Hag at the beginning of his recruitment were too high even though the burden given to Ten Hag was clearly very large, apart from improving the mentality of the players, he was also required to play well and reach at least the top 4 clearly this is something difficult even though the MU squad is really strong. really good in terms of players but when their strategy and motivation to play is quite weak then this is indeed a difficult thing for Ten Hag to do.

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August 11, 2022, 05:43:44 AM
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Indirectly, many things affect Manchester United not playing in their best performance, since the Ferguson era ended Manchester United lost a coach who could lift the spirits of their players, as evidenced by the matches they played, the mockery of the fans made the players more depressed and unprofessional on the field.
Ferguson's era for Manchester United has become a great history that cannot be forgotten, but Manchester United fans must also support Erik Ten Hag at this time so that Manchester United players can be even more enthusiastic and Manchester United's performance can also increase because it is for the sake of proving that Erik Ten Hag can also be able to bring Manchester United at its best.
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August 11, 2022, 05:48:15 AM
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Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.


I really wonder what those internal crisis are, all I know is that Ronaldo want to left Man Utd, but even before that issue arise, on last season Man Utd has been performing very poorly. Many people has been speculating that Man Utd has internal issue, but I never really see an official or insider statement. And with the current squad that Man Utd has, and how they perform in the pre-season their performance vs Brighton is definitely not the best they can do.

Last season there was a bit of conflict between the players for example, in a match some players prioritize selfishness
Problems like this will never be officially released we can only see their expressions when playing
but this season it shouldn't happen again because some players have left the club.

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I really wonder what those internal crisis are, all I know is that Ronaldo want to left Man Utd, but even before that issue arise, on last season Man Utd has been performing very poorly. Many people has been speculating that Man Utd has internal issue, but I never really see an official or insider statement. And with the current squad that Man Utd has, and how they perform in the pre-season their performance vs Brighton is definitely not the best they can do.
It's just my guess, at his age that can be said closes retirement he needs a club that can make him set other records in the rest of his career and it's very unlikely he will do it at Man United which still looks like an ordinary team especially this season Man United has not played at UCL which is the most prestigious European competition.
Internal problems at the club don't need to be said, it will be seen from the achievements and how the players coordinate in every match.

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Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.

I think, Manchester united coach is seriously working to end this crisis that is affecting the team not to perform well in any competition which is not giving their fans joy about their performance so far.  Based on what people saw in their first leg that made their opponent to defeated them 2-1 show that if Manchester united can end this disunity that is rocking the team, they will definitely get it right in their second leg because their game later change positively in the second half after their coach has talked to them to play the game with one mind which they did at the moment.

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Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.

I think, Manchester united coach is seriously working to end this crisis that is affecting the team not to perform well in any competition which is not giving their fans joy about their performance so far.  Based on what people saw in their first leg that made their opponent to defeated them 2-1 show that if Manchester united can end this disunity that is rocking the team, they will definitely get it right in their second leg because their game later change positively in the second half after their coach has talked to them to play the game with one mind which they did at the moment.
United lost their confidence in the first game. this makes the team not work well. a very impenetrable line of defense. as well as the front line which is very lacking in finishing.
in the first match, I think MU was not ready with the opponent's strategy. the next game there is a possibility they will perform better. but it's also possible that they'll be even more devastated if they don't realize their mistake right away.

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August 11, 2022, 06:21:33 AM
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Indirectly, many things affect Manchester United not playing in their best performance, since the Ferguson era ended Manchester United lost a coach who could lift the spirits of their players, as evidenced by the matches they played, the mockery of the fans made the players more depressed and unprofessional on the field.
Ferguson's era for Manchester United has become a great history that cannot be forgotten, but Manchester United fans must also support Erik Ten Hag at this time so that Manchester United players can be even more enthusiastic and Manchester United's performance can also increase because it is for the sake of proving that Erik Ten Hag can also be able to bring Manchester United at its best.
We can't go back to that time now, although we really want it but at this moment United are really far from expectations.
As for Ten Hag, there are actually many MU fans who do support him and that can be seen from the enthusiasm that was given to Ten Hag when he arrived.
But there's still a lot of work for the Ten Hag to do at the moment and the one game at the start with Brighton is likely to have a big impact.

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August 11, 2022, 06:21:50 AM
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in the end the possibility is still only one, they still can't maximize their players now and actually this is a pretty difficult homework even 2 coaches have been victims last season.
Expectations for Ten Hag at the beginning of his recruitment were too high even though the burden given to Ten Hag was clearly very large, apart from improving the mentality of the players, he was also required to play well and reach at least the top 4 clearly this is something difficult even though the MU squad is really strong. really good in terms of players but when their strategy and motivation to play is quite weak then this is indeed a difficult thing for Ten Hag to do.
Seeing the Ten Hag progress in just a game or two is unethical to judge a flop. Because Ten Hag also still needs a lot of time no, let him stay at least 1 season and the Manchester United manager doesn't always think that it's all because of Ten Hag who can't manage the team. This is only natural when you have just landed and are faced with various club problems that have been chaotic from the start. Plus Ronaldo playing for himself has always been a problem associated with Ten Hag's training. Aren't there currently many Red Devils fans who are more inclined to support Ten Hag than to cater to the wishes of a player who no longer plays for the club?

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I don't know why Maguire still as priority for central defender on Manchester United still they have option with Raphaël Varane, Lisandro Martínez and Victor Lindelöf, although still have another option with Eric Bailly. I know with how much expensive transfer values made by Manchester United to get Harry Maguire from Leicester City but he never miss moment made mistake on defensive Manchester United area. I think not fault keep make another tandem on next match when Manchester United against with Brentford, I think Erik Tan Hag need give space with new tandem between Lisandro Martinez with Raphaël Varane on central defender or give an option by using third central defender with Victor Lindelöf.
Yes, I also have the same thought. Man United have many options if they decide to leave Maguire on the bench. The duet between Varane and Lisandro Martinez might be the best choice, or Ten Hag could try using another composition involving Victor Lindelof and Eric Bailly. It could be a solution for Man United's backline, but If Ten Hag doesn't want to try it then nothing will change.

There are rumors that the Red devil dressing room wants Ronaldo to be kicked out, and I think that's normal because Ronaldo's immaturity will surely make some players and staff uncomfortable. If it continues without a solution then this will affect the morale of the whole team, and it means not good for the performance and harmony of the team.

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August 11, 2022, 06:38:13 AM
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I don't know why Maguire still as priority for central defender on Manchester United still they have option with Raphaël Varane, Lisandro Martínez and Victor Lindelöf, although still have another option with Eric Bailly. I know with how much expensive transfer values made by Manchester United to get Harry Maguire from Leicester City but he never miss moment made mistake on defensive Manchester United area. I think not fault keep make another tandem on next match when Manchester United against with Brentford, I think Erik Tan Hag need give space with new tandem between Lisandro Martinez with Raphaël Varane on central defender or give an option by using third central defender with Victor Lindelöf.
Yes, I also have the same thought. Man United have many options if they decide to leave Maguire on the bench. The duet between Varane and Lisandro Martinez might be the best choice, or Ten Hag could try using another composition involving Victor Lindelof and Eric Bailly. It could be a solution for Man United's backline, but If Ten Hag doesn't want to try it then nothing will change.

There are rumors that the Red devil dressing room wants Ronaldo to be kicked out, and I think that's normal because Ronaldo's immaturity will surely make some players and staff uncomfortable. If it continues without a solution then this will affect the morale of the whole team, and it means not good for the performance and harmony of the team.
Harry Maguire has always been the first choice because of his brilliant performances. Lol
Doesn't that make sense? Because the player who is the first choice is definitely a better player than the others, and it seems Maguire is the best right now. Lol
I think if we want to leave Maguire on the bench, we have to be the coach ourselves. Because of several coaches who have coached Manchester United, he has always been an option.

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August 11, 2022, 07:15:09 AM
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Ferguson's era for Manchester United has become a great history that cannot be forgotten, but Manchester United fans must also support Erik Ten Hag at this time so that Manchester United players can be even more enthusiastic and Manchester United's performance can also increase because it is for the sake of proving that Erik Ten Hag can also be able to bring Manchester United at its best.

It's time for Man United to leave the shadow of Sir Alex Ferguson, in my opinion, Erik Ten Hag must prove his coaching and bring United even better than before.Thus, Man United fans around the world will support him.
Man United's defeat in the inaugural match this season drew criticism from various football lovers, especially the Red Devils fans and I think this has an impact on a crisis of confidence within the squad itself, both for Erik and the United squad.

and i think erik already knows the problems in his squad though, maybe he hasn't found the right strategy to take man united to a higher level.
Well I think there is still time for Erik Ten Hag to fix his squad in the transfer market this summer.

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August 11, 2022, 07:42:37 AM
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Unlucky to Crystal palace, the reason they lost was they lacked the cutting edge in the final third. They were not clinical enough. But they can only take the positives and negatives from this game on to the training ground and prepare for the next game. For Arsenal, the second half was a bit clumsy. Their midfield lost the battle but they soaked the pressure well and killed the game when it matters. Saliba was solid, Jesus sure has a good season ahead. It's just first game, I think they will get better with time.
The point is Arsenal had a pretty good chance in that match, so they could maximize the game to get three points, while Crystal Palace lost confidence in the second half, so Arsenal were allowed to dominate, this must be fixed by Crystal Palace in the next match

The ball possession didn't matters a lot once the execution can't be done so well. You can see what happened when chelsea against fulham. it has a very big ball possession and shoots but it can't make a goal. The goal happened from penalty kick.
The ball possession will give the club more chance to create shoot but if that can't be executed and it will mean nothing.
Arsenal can execute it so well and 2 goals were enough for arsenal to win the game.
It is true what you convey, that possession of the ball is not very important for the match, because in fact only victory is expected by the club, but ball control is also a creator in attack, resulting in the creation of goals against the opponent's goal, although this is greatly influenced by the tactics used. applied by the coach, but the final finisher is also very determined for victory

Arsenal, who have picked up their first win will soon prepare even more aggressively to beat Leicester City on August 13 next. With Arsenal current performance, it is quite stable and can be early in securing points. Well, this was the start of an unexpected game, because Arsenal was aggressive at the start but could never last until the end of the season, usually sinking back.
Hopefully Arsenal's strengths are able to play consistently until the end of the season, at least they can compete in the top four standings, the next match is much more difficult, where they will be against Leicester City, this will be more interesting to follow, whether Arsenal this season has changed and has a target that clearer or still the same as the previous 3 seasons

Almost all of players purchased by arsenal can follow the strategy from the team. Gabriel jesus is suit well playing arsenal. he was on fire right now. arsenal can be also called as english dortmund. It's always buying cheap players to be developed and then sold as a big player for a lot of money. I hope that was true if that vision has gone. Arsenal needs also to seriously compete as a winner in the competition.
If this vision is still applied by Arsenal, then the opportunity to compete with other clubs will not be maximized, this is what makes them always left behind in the title race in the previous 3 season

Pre season and first Primer League match winning I think too early claimed with Arsenal success on transfer player, we need proof about few weeks later keep consistent on winning track or Arsenal back to usual habit always not consistent and failed reach top fourth position standing at the end Primer League. I think what achievement from Arsenal is very fantastic because success get 100% winning on pre season match include on first Primer League match, but next week Arsenal against with Leicester City, keep going on with consistent performance from Arsenal or get bad result on second Primer League match.
It's not entirely pre-season and the first match in the league is a reference for the success of player transfers, but what we discuss is the vision of this club, which used to only rely on cheap players then polished and resold at high prices, this is what makes it difficult for them to compete, but this transfer market , Arsenal is quite different from the previous season, where they bought players who cost more and have average quality

Arsenal's efforts in terms of improving the strength of their club are currently getting better and it is clear that Arsenal need to compete in the Europa League next season where there are several strong clubs also there such as Manchester United. So Arsenal will try every thing and strategy that is needed at this time to apply it next season in every game they will go through.
Arsenal and Manchester United are not so much different in 3 seasons, they are almost the same with inconsistent games, even very difficult to face the big 3 clubs in the English league, but this season both clubs have improved, the Europa League also has representatives from other leagues , where there are still quite a lot of strong clubs they have to face.

Are they able to compete and do their best this season, with the arrival of new players they bought in the transfer market, or is it the same as the previous season?

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August 11, 2022, 08:00:47 AM
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United lost their confidence in the first game. this makes the team not work well. a very impenetrable line of defense. as well as the front line which is very lacking in finishing.
in the first match, I think MU was not ready with the opponent's strategy. the next game there is a possibility they will perform better. but it's also possible that they'll be even more devastated if they don't realize their mistake right away.
Team selection was the major reason that contributed to their last match defeat. Some of their players are not giving chance to prove their worthy. Take a look at Bissaka, he was among the best but l don't know why they are not including him in their squad. I don't think there is anyone who can play better than bissaka on his position at Manchester United.
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Manchester United may have performed their best in the last game, ordinarily, I don't expect them to do anything better than what they did since the club has an internal crisis and if that is not sorted out, it will affect the club's existing presence in future leagues. Before Manchester United have been in a good position but ever since the management crisis started in the club it has dragged the club overall performance backward and that is bad news for the fans. The players are not in unity and even the coach has not done enough to reposition the club for success.

I think, Manchester united coach is seriously working to end this crisis that is affecting the team not to perform well in any competition which is not giving their fans joy about their performance so far.  Based on what people saw in their first leg that made their opponent to defeated them 2-1 show that if Manchester united can end this disunity that is rocking the team, they will definitely get it right in their second leg because their game later change positively in the second half after their coach has talked to them to play the game with one mind which they did at the moment.
United lost their confidence in the first game. this makes the team not work well. a very impenetrable line of defense. as well as the front line which is very lacking in finishing.
in the first match, I think MU was not ready with the opponent's strategy. the next game there is a possibility they will perform better. but it's also possible that they'll be even more devastated if they don't realize their mistake right away.
Manchester United played at Old Trafford in the first match of the season and the opponent is not a strong team because Brighton are just a mediocre team, so how can Manchester United lose confidence. Obviously Manchester United still haven't got the right coach, because Erik ten Hag is a very unsuitable coach to handle the case at Manchester United. Therefore, Manchester United will still be difficult to bounce back, moreover Erik Ten Hag managed to not include Ronaldo and Varane in the starting eleven in his first match. It was a feat in his blunder to manage a big team, but instead benched an influential player.

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August 11, 2022, 08:04:33 AM
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in the end the possibility is still only one, they still can't maximize their players now and actually this is a pretty difficult homework even 2 coaches have been victims last season.
Expectations for Ten Hag at the beginning of his recruitment were too high even though the burden given to Ten Hag was clearly very large, apart from improving the mentality of the players, he was also required to play well and reach at least the top 4 clearly this is something difficult even though the MU squad is really strong. really good in terms of players but when their strategy and motivation to play is quite weak then this is indeed a difficult thing for Ten Hag to do.
Seeing the Ten Hag progress in just a game or two is unethical to judge a flop. Because Ten Hag also still needs a lot of time no, let him stay at least 1 season and the Manchester United manager doesn't always think that it's all because of Ten Hag who can't manage the team. This is only natural when you have just landed and are faced with various club problems that have been chaotic from the start. Plus Ronaldo playing for himself has always been a problem associated with Ten Hag's training. Aren't there currently many Red Devils fans who are more inclined to support Ten Hag than to cater to the wishes of a player who no longer plays for the club?
We know that this kind of thing is unethical but when the expectations about his arrival at the first time are very high then it is very natural that many are heartbroken now but actually as you say, this will not be instant success especially there are still many things to be done Ten Hag is a fox now so indeed this process must take a lot of time.

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August 11, 2022, 08:05:05 AM
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It seems that Leicester City always gives a lot of surprises, but because here Arsenal is still in quite an optimal form, we can still make sure Arsenal has more chances to win the game. Moreover, there were no significant improvements made by the Leicester City club during pre-season and in the transfer market. I mean not as big as Arsenal did, because basically Leicester City is just trying not to be in the relegation zone too quickly. At least for now their job is to make it difficult for Arsenal to score goals.

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