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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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October 25, 2023, 08:59:22 AM
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Comparing Erling Haaland to Son is completely out of the question because there is a substantial distinction between a player who is spoonfed hundreds of passes just for him to score and players who hustle their way out for this goals ranking. What I'm trying to comprehend completely is Son is more effective with footings on the ball than Erling Haaland who is only in it for the goals. Son Heung-Min's performance has improved since Harry Kane's departure from Tottenham this summer. All the weights that have circulated the Englishman have turned out to face Son, and he is ready to lead his squad to glory. Angelos Postecoglou, the new manager, is also an amazing piece of creativity that supports his players in competing for the EPL crown this season.
I'm glad you have same observation as mine, few weeks back before the international break, I watch one of the games Manchester city played in the premier league and I observed erling haaland carefully and came to a conclusion that he was typically a goal scorer but some other person's argued vhemently with me saying he is rather creative, but I still maintained my stands.

Haaland is a good play no doubts but on thing is sure if he were to be placed in such position as son, where he has to make the play, create the chances and score a goal, I don't think he will do better, son is a play maker, creative and hustles for his ball mean while haaland on the other hand as good good team mates up on which he is some how dependent upon, so the comparison doesn't have matching points.

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October 25, 2023, 09:08:03 AM
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Comparing Erling Haaland to Son is completely out of the question because there is a substantial distinction between a player who is spoonfed hundreds of passes just for him to score and players who hustle their way out for this goals ranking. What I'm trying to comprehend completely is Son is more effective with footings on the ball than Erling Haaland who is only in it for the goals. Son Heung-Min's performance has improved since Harry Kane's departure from Tottenham this summer. All the weights that have circulated the Englishman have turned out to face Son, and he is ready to lead his squad to glory. Angelos Postecoglou, the new manager, is also an amazing piece of creativity that supports his players in competing for the EPL crown this season.
Son Heung Min is a winger and Erling Haaland is a striker, so it is quite clear that their roles are definitely different even though they both have opportunities to score goals. Maybe for a striker what is important is being able to position himself well to receive a pass or even if he can step freely in the opponent's penalty box, of course 80% of the time it can be a goal. But for a winger, they have to dribble the ball first and even have to pass the opposing defender before finally sprinting and finally just finishing, which is sometimes quite weak. But that weak finishing can still be honed well so you can score goals.

Coach Ange definitely knows how to use Son Heung Min properly and has proven that as a winger he is much more productive. Losing Harry Kane doesn't seem to have much of an impact on Spurs because they have much more freedom this season. Perhaps Richarlison, who is often appointed as a striker, has experienced a decline in performance even since last season. But I think as long as there is Son Heung Min, the goal scoring machine will still be there this season.

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October 25, 2023, 09:16:34 AM
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Kevin was out with injury and the team did well to manage the games played.  A player like Gundogan  was around when Kevin was absent.
Bernadotte Silva and Rodri also are strong important members of Man City.
The game on Sunday against Man United will be a good day to teach Man United players football. Man City should also win tomorrow.
Young boys will be hard at home in that matter I can't wait to see how it happens.
Luckily, Rodri is back, so at least their strength can be quite good again compared to their condition last week without De Bruyne and Rodri. The reason is that for next week against Man United, apart from De Bruyne who is still absent, their defender Akanji is also affected by an accumulation of cards. red. However, they should still have other reliable players behind them and this might not be too problematic.
Regarding what the results will be, I myself am still very curious. Sometimes I'm sure that Man City will win, but this time Man United also sometimes put up quite a strong resistance. This will certainly be interesting again, I hope Man City doesn't make the same mistake when they lost to Arsenal a few weeks ago.

Even though Manchester city want to make mistakes again in their remaining matches, not like team Manchester united because without De Bruyne and Rodri who are currently experiencing injuries in some matches, but Manchester city will definitely defeat them to achieve three points from the match. Manchester united coach has a lot of work to do before they can withstand Manchester city next season, because they are well organized to play this tournament in a way they can still make things happen again for their favour to lift the trophy like the way they lifted it last season with boldness. I believe Manchester city coach will definitely use a good striker to handle De Bruyne position in this match so that Erling Haaland and other players will have a good opportunity to score goals that will give them victory at the end.
I don't know if you are noticing one thing, Erling Haaland hasn't scored since the day De Bruyne got injured and left the field until now. The star was previously described as a goal machine, but since De Bruyne left the field, the goalscoring ability of the machine has decreased significantly, meaning that it is clear that De Bruyne has been providing a great assist for Erling Haaland's goals. No matter what star Manchester City tries to play in De Bruyne's position, it is never possible to get a performance like De Bruyne from that star. 

Erling Haaland's skills need to improve enough so that he can score with the help of another player.

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October 25, 2023, 09:36:57 AM
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I don't know if you are noticing one thing, Erling Haaland hasn't scored since the day De Bruyne got injured and left the field until now. The star was previously described as a goal machine, but since De Bruyne left the field, the goalscoring ability of the machine has decreased significantly, meaning that it is clear that De Bruyne has been providing a great assist for Erling Haaland's goals. No matter what star Manchester City tries to play in De Bruyne's position, it is never possible to get a performance like De Bruyne from that star. 

Erling Haaland's skills need to improve enough so that he can score with the help of another player.

I feel that Haaland is doing his job well but it's the other members who are not pushing as hard as Haaland. There are lot of new players for City so it will take them quite a time to adjust as well to the Guardiola tactics. I think Haaland is good as it is, as he is doing his job and is in his position and ready to make a run. I think it's others who are not able find that opening like De Bruyne used to. It is a concern because you might not never know De Bruyne might not be there forever so City needs to find someone who can at least show signs to fill the De Bruyne's roles a bit.
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October 25, 2023, 09:38:08 AM
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Totthenham is no doubt making me feel like they are the real deal this season,after seeing Arsenal move to the level they are now from last season,they are now proving to everyone that they can do thesame,because I am still surprised why they are still maintaining their unbeaten record after about 9 matches has been played.
Uptill now most persons don't see them as a threat to the Tittle,but I have seen that they can surprise people this season,and either come out second or better still,win the League.Meanwhile,Arsenal are still on that record with Totthenham,but I'm not seeing Arsenal being able to maintain this till November will be over because they are now showing sign of tiredness,their front is not as active as it used to be because Odegard and Saka have dropped form a little bit.
Now, after Tottenham managed to win over Liverpool and Manchester United, they are no longer underestimated and Tottenham are even considered fierce competitors in the race for the title this season.
In terms of team quality, they are already very worthy, Tottenham just need to maintain their performance or just need to be consistent until the end of the season, so it is very possible for them to remain at the top of the standings until the end of the season.

This season I am sure that the competition at the top of the Premier League standings will be fiercer than the previous season, there are 4 teams (Arsenal, Tottenham, Man City and Liverpool) who have good quality and deserve to win the title this season, so if they can be consistent until At the end of the season, it is very possible for fierce competition to occur until the last week of the Premier League.
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October 25, 2023, 09:39:39 AM
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Comparing Erling Haaland to Son is completely out of the question because there is a substantial distinction between a player who is spoonfed hundreds of passes just for him to score and players who hustle their way out for this goals ranking. What I'm trying to comprehend completely is Son is more effective with footings on the ball than Erling Haaland who is only in it for the goals. Son Heung-Min's performance has improved since Harry Kane's departure from Tottenham this summer. All the weights that have circulated the Englishman have turned out to face Son, and he is ready to lead his squad to glory. Angelos Postecoglou, the new manager, is also an amazing piece of creativity that supports his players in competing for the EPL crown this season.
I'm glad you have same observation as mine, few weeks back before the international break, I watch one of the games Manchester city played in the premier league and I observed erling haaland carefully and came to a conclusion that he was typically a goal scorer but some other person's argued vhemently with me saying he is rather creative, but I still maintained my stands.

Haaland is a good play no doubts but on thing is sure if he were to be placed in such position as son, where he has to make the play, create the chances and score a goal, I don't think he will do better, son is a play maker, creative and hustles for his ball mean while haaland on the other hand as good good team mates up on which he is some how dependent upon, so the comparison doesn't have matching points.

Agree, that Son is a hard worker and independent and even his individual abilities have been tested over several seasons. It is difficult to compare him with Haaland because in this case Haaland is only a goal machine who still relies on assists from other people, namely Kevin De Bruyne. Meanwhile, Son is able to create his own float, can move independently and has individual skills both as an assist and as a goal scorer. Haaland currently does not have the ability to supply the ball. It is clear that this season without Kevin De Bruyne, his productivity in scoring goals has dropped drastically.

At the end of October we will see Manchester City face Manchester United. If you are still without Kevin De Bruyne, it will make you wonder whether Haaland can score more than 2 goals. I will not underestimate Manchester United because for them playing at home this match will be very important.

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October 25, 2023, 09:41:50 AM
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I think the competition for golden boot this season will be tougher as Erling Haaland is yet to score the number of goals he already had by this time last season. Yes we all know the impact KDB brings to the squad but in his absence Haaland will have to find his way around if he want to be in the golden boot contest, Son of Spurs is already proving to be a competition for Haaland this season.

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October 25, 2023, 09:44:10 AM
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I don't know if you are noticing one thing, Erling Haaland hasn't scored since the day De Bruyne got injured and left the field until now. The star was previously described as a goal machine, but since De Bruyne left the field, the goalscoring ability of the machine has decreased significantly, meaning that it is clear that De Bruyne has been providing a great assist for Erling Haaland's goals. No matter what star Manchester City tries to play in De Bruyne's position, it is never possible to get a performance like De Bruyne from that star.
How you can say that, look at the current statistic in this season, Haaland is still become the top scorer. It's correct to say that if Haaland isn't the top scorer anymore. The reason why someone can't score as higher as before isn't the internal factor, the defenders and goalkeeper might be better than the previous season.

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October 25, 2023, 09:54:16 AM
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I don't know if you are noticing one thing, Erling Haaland hasn't scored since the day De Bruyne got injured and left the field until now. The star was previously described as a goal machine, but since De Bruyne left the field, the goalscoring ability of the machine has decreased significantly, meaning that it is clear that De Bruyne has been providing a great assist for Erling Haaland's goals. No matter what star Manchester City tries to play in De Bruyne's position, it is never possible to get a performance like De Bruyne from that star. 

Erling Haaland's skills need to improve enough so that he can score with the help of another player.

I feel that Haaland is doing his job well but it's the other members who are not pushing as hard as Haaland. There are lot of new players for City so it will take them quite a time to adjust as well to the Guardiola tactics. I think Haaland is good as it is, as he is doing his job and is in his position and ready to make a run. I think it's others who are not able find that opening like De Bruyne used to. It is a concern because you might not never know De Bruyne might not be there forever so City needs to find someone who can at least show signs to fill the De Bruyne's roles a bit.
The last Manchester city game i watched from beginning to finish is them verse Arsenal which Arsenal won the game by 1 to nothing, I would personally say that, based on that game, Haaland did not play well, to me, it makes no sense to just wait around hanging in the opponent's goal post, waiting for some other player to bring the ball to you for you to just score, Haaland indeed needs to improve in his skills, as with an improved skills, he can be able to get the ball for himself and score goals without having to very much depend on other players.

And do not get me wrong, i perfectly understand that a team in football are supposed to work together, but where other team players seem not to be putting the much-needed effort required to push the club forward, him whom all eyes are watching should take upon himself to see that goals are scored, with or without De Bruyne or any other player.

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October 25, 2023, 10:00:25 AM
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I don't know if you are noticing one thing, Erling Haaland hasn't scored since the day De Bruyne got injured and left the field until now. The star was previously described as a goal machine, but since De Bruyne left the field, the goalscoring ability of the machine has decreased significantly, meaning that it is clear that De Bruyne has been providing a great assist for Erling Haaland's goals. No matter what star Manchester City tries to play in De Bruyne's position, it is never possible to get a performance like De Bruyne from that star. 

Erling Haaland's skills need to improve enough so that he can score with the help of another player.

De Bruyne got injured after playing the first game in the Premier League. Since then Haaland has scored 7 goals in 7 games. He even made a hat-trick in one of those games. Therefore I can't say Haaland has been having scoring issues. People must be expecting to see the same Haaland from the previous season I assume.

But to get that version of Haaland indeed De Bruyne is needed. They have had a wonderful chemistry that Haaland scores even more in his presence. But even for now I can say Haaland is doing quite well. I expect him to score against Manchester United at the weekend.

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October 25, 2023, 10:14:28 AM
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Spurs are going crazy and they are still undefeated. Their latest win at home against Fulham provided cold weather at the top of the standings and I think their hope now is of course to be able to get closer to winning the title which every season is very impossible for them. In 9 matches Spurs have never lost and they are the only team left in the EPL that is difficult to beat.
Honestly, when Kean left, I had this idea that Spurs would lose about 50% of their strength, and it'd be challenging for them to stay in the top 4, let alone leading. But I might be wrong because right now, Son and his teammates are playing exceptionally well and consistently. I sense that Spurs' playing style has become more varied compared to Kean's time.
When playing for Tottenham Kane didn't look that striking with his performance but after moving to play with Bayern Munich he played quite well.
Maybe because the Premier League has too many great young players so Kane can't keep up with the game.

Really great for Tottenham and they managed to get quite lot of wins up to now just couldn't beat Arsenal and were still stuck with draw.

If they play for an Asian team maybe they are willing to be called up to strengthen their country national team.
It is the dream of many players to be able to play with big European team one of which is the Premier League.
Playing for a European club like the Premier League rather than an Asian one is a huge advantage. This will likely make them top choices for their national teams, and if they play well, their country will also be noticed.
What is clear is career and every player who manages to perform well in the European League can get what they want from a high market value and also brilliant career.

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October 25, 2023, 10:20:01 AM
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ETH is talking about the skipper Andre Onana to step up and try as much as he can to do well to help the team, I still don't know why fans thinks the problem is the goalkeeper.
Onana isn't the problem, he has been doing everything in his power to make sure Manchester United are in good shape.
What I know is that United expectations are just too much that's why we see some players making some crazy errors just to impress, only if the expectations ain't that high I don't see Onana to be in any form of pressure, as it is I think ETH is adding more pressure on him (Onana) when he hasn't survive the ones coming from the fans. To me the best thing to do is for ETH to work more on the team and not on a particular player.

Andre Onana is in good form, but the club's performances have been lacking. Fans should stop blaming Onana for this; they should understand that this is premier league is different from Seria A and they cannot expect his goalkeeping to be the same right away. It will take time for him to adjust, and if the players can't even defend their own home effectively, I don't see what the goalkeeper can do to stop the goal. Ten Hag's is still Manchester United's issue; in the Champions League, the players they always complain about were the ones that help them win. Ten Hag's needs to carry out new improvements if he wants to stay in that club; otherwise, I think he might leave by January. They should find a new goalkeeper if they realize that Onana is the root of all their difficulties, but as for me i always see the problems from the wingers.


Chelsea spoil a perfect story that they would have had defeating Arsenal and stopping their perfect run in the Premier league. The Chelsea coach ruined the game with the substitution removing Cole Palmer and Mudryk was a mistake, and as Declan Rice scored, Arsenal knew that they could get back into the game. Chelsea will not so lucky when they play Arsenal at the Emirates because Arsenal will have the advantage of the home crowd and will be more aware of the new Chelsea team and their abilities.

The only thing left for Chelsea to do is play defense against Arsenal, but they are unable to do so because they appear to not care about three points and instead want to stay in that position. Pochettino made a serious mistake by substituting them at that point when they were already winning with two goals.

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October 25, 2023, 10:43:52 AM
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I think the competition for golden boot this season will be tougher as Erling Haaland is yet to score the number of goals he already had by this time last season. Yes we all know the impact KDB brings to the squad but in his absence Haaland will have to find his way around if he want to be in the golden boot contest, Son of Spurs is already proving to be a competition for Haaland this season.
Haaland still has time to catch up, sometimes players are very productive at the start of the season and sometimes in the middle of the season so this is not just talking about KDB but also Haaland's adaptation to the current situation so he doesn't rely on KDB on the front lines and is able to finish the game with goals. which he usually scored in every match last season so he became the top scorer and got the golden boot.

I often see Haaland almost unable to score against great clubs, for some reason he can't do it like he did against lower clubs, but whatever it is, Haaland is still a deadly player, he can score at any time as long as there is a gap and maybe we all It will take time to see his performance return to what it used to be last season where he was able to score lots of goals and become the top scorer.

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October 25, 2023, 10:47:59 AM
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In as much as I acknowledge that Manchester United win wasn't a surprise, but the method of win was surprising. I mean who scored the goal and who saved the goal. It was a good outing, let's see what others will do tomorrow.

Thanks for onana who has helped MU from getting 1 point and at very least manchester united was able securing full points from copenhagen even though it was winning with narrow score. There's nothing to say about this game but MU was almost thrown again this game if onana would be helped manchester united to win the game. It's pumped my heartbeat coz MU was only leading the game with a single goal.

Glad to see that MU was not bottled it.

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October 25, 2023, 10:53:45 AM
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Haaland still has time to catch up, sometimes players are very productive at the start of the season and sometimes in the middle of the season so this is not just talking about KDB but also Haaland's adaptation to the current situation so he doesn't rely on KDB on the front lines and is able to finish the game with goals. which he usually scored in every match last season so he became the top scorer and got the golden boot.
It is predictable that Haaland will have more difficulties in his second season in Premier League. After having a record-breaking season, Haaland is a target of coaches, midfielders, defenders and goalkeepers to analyze his playing style in order to control him better, reduce his attacking danger as much as possible. It is from opponents of Manchester City and I am not doubtful about professional of Haaland but sometimes he will has issues with his fitness.

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I often see Haaland almost unable to score against great clubs, for some reason he can't do it like he did against lower clubs, but whatever it is, Haaland is still a deadly player, he can score at any time as long as there is a gap and maybe we all It will take time to see his performance return to what it used to be last season where he was able to score lots of goals and become the top scorer.
Haaland is a striker but his tasks are not only scoring goals. In the past season, I remember in some matches, Pep Guardiola required Haaland to play as a decoy bird in order to give Kevin De Bruyne chances to make shots and scoring winnings goals for Manchester City in big matches. Football is a sport of team working and contribution of Haaland must be counted from many things, not only goals.

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October 25, 2023, 11:09:10 AM
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I think the competition for golden boot this season will be tougher as Erling Haaland is yet to score the number of goals he already had by this time last season. Yes we all know the impact KDB brings to the squad but in his absence Haaland will have to find his way around if he want to be in the golden boot contest, Son of Spurs is already proving to be a competition for Haaland this season.

The chase and journey for the golden boot will be more interesting  when unpredictable  last season haaland had all the support he needed to excel both in champions league and premier league.
Doing it alone will not go easy for haaland Guardiola should  also know that. How do you think  he should find his way, he is not the player that dribbles before scoring get him the ball so he can score you the goal.
Son has James Maddison, so getting  assisted to score more goals can be seen unlike Erling Haaland.

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October 25, 2023, 11:12:23 AM
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I think the competition for golden boot this season will be tougher as Erling Haaland is yet to score the number of goals he already had by this time last season. Yes we all know the impact KDB brings to the squad but in his absence Haaland will have to find his way around if he want to be in the golden boot contest, Son of Spurs is already proving to be a competition for Haaland this season.

Haaland PR don't have time to ginger the Premier League, they are more focus now on the Balon D'or they know he will not win but they must push, by the time they see the end that he comes second after Messi, they will come back and push him again to tap in. Grin

Honestly, I can't feel his energy like last season, man was here and there making ways for Manchester City but it seems Son and Moh Salah are ready to take this lead together with him this time around. I'm interested in how Son will go far because him and Salah has the same 7 points, but he is the best 3 that has not scored a single goal from penalty. That's how you know play makers and those who loves taping.


De Bruyne got injured after playing the first game in the Premier League. Since then Haaland has scored 7 goals in 7 games. He even made a hat-trick in one of those games. Therefore I can't say Haaland has been having scoring issues. People must be expecting to see the same Haaland from the previous season I assume.

But to get that version of Haaland indeed De Bruyne is needed. They have had a wonderful chemistry that Haaland scores even more in his presence. But even for now I can say Haaland is doing quite well. I expect him to score against Manchester United at the weekend.

Haaland actually had 9 goals in 9 matches with 1 assist so far in the Premier League alone. But there is a problem in his consistency. His relationship with De Bruyne is out of this world because as a midfielder, he makes sure Haaland is never out of ball, Bruyne is very good and reliable that's why Haaland had more his goals in the last season but now it seems the absence is not only stop De Bruyne from playing, it's also stopping him from having more goals. I hope he recovers cover quickly.

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October 25, 2023, 11:37:13 AM
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De Bruyne probably will be absense until end of this year but if Rodri can be played after suspension i think that's a good news because he can make Manchester City midfield sides will be more solid and indeed as defending champion recently Manchester City performance a bit decline but last week they can able to bounce back by beating Brighton and on that match Haaland was return to scored goal and for Manchester United they still faced some problem that some of their players good injured but they are in the good shape after gets 3 winning streak in all competitions

I haven't check the odds yet but i will assume Manchester United status as underdog but last season Manchester United has been able to beat Manchester City at Old Trafford so it's not impossible for them to repeat that result again moreover Manchester United players in the good mentally after gets the winning result from Copenhagen and the players just like Maguire or Onana was displayed impressive performance on that match and although it's hard but i think Manchester United will be the winner of this match
De Bruyne and Rodri are like players who play an important role in Manchester City and it is proven that when these players are not present on the field to compete, the club's performance decreases, such as the defeat against Arsenal because Rodri was not allowed to appear because he received a previous red card and from this situation it is very clear The composition of Manchester's players will be perfect if De Bruyne can recover quickly and appear again with Manchester City.
Manchester United may still have a chance to win because they appear at home, but in my opinion that will not happen considering that Manchester United has injured players so it is very difficult to beat Manchester City, but if it ends in a draw I can call it Erik Ten Hag successful in providing change.

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October 25, 2023, 11:42:13 AM
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I don't know if you are noticing one thing, Erling Haaland hasn't scored since the day De Bruyne got injured and left the field until now. The star was previously described as a goal machine, but since De Bruyne left the field, the goalscoring ability of the machine has decreased significantly, meaning that it is clear that De Bruyne has been providing a great assist for Erling Haaland's goals. No matter what star Manchester City tries to play in De Bruyne's position, it is never possible to get a performance like De Bruyne from that star.  

Erling Haaland's skills need to improve enough so that he can score with the help of another player.

I feel that Haaland is doing his job well but it's the other members who are not pushing as hard as Haaland. There are lot of new players for City so it will take them quite a time to adjust as well to the Guardiola tactics. I think Haaland is good as it is, as he is doing his job and is in his position and ready to make a run. I think it's others who are not able find that opening like De Bruyne used to. It is a concern because you might not never know De Bruyne might not be there forever so City needs to find someone who can at least show signs to fill the De Bruyne's roles a bit.
Haaland still performs well and has contributed well in the games Manchester City have played so far for the season,  the problem Manchester city is having this season is that some players are not putting much effort in their performance instead they so much rely on the top players in every games. But I think having De Bruyne back will really strengthen the team to do better in their games, having De Bruyne and Haaland in Manchester City is a good combination.

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Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1717113419696902352

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Sandro Tonali has been banned from playing for 10 months due to his gambling scandal and this will certainly be very detrimental to Newcastle because his role is really needed to strengthen the midfield this season. Even though Newcastle are in their best performance, they have lost key players who were brought in from Milan last summer. On the other hand, it is possible that Sandro Tonali will get an additional month during his ban for the rehabilitation process. I think what Sandro Tonali has done can be a lesson for other players not to carry out similar activities and if this is the case, of course the club will be the one who suffers the most.

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