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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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November 20, 2023, 10:58:14 AM
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Brighton have never won in their last 5 matches and they have lost their consistency so they have lost their place to compete in the top 4. They achieved poor results with 4 draws and 1 defeat, this is quite a bad record considering their performance since last season has been so satisfying. Their next match will visit Nottingham headquarters and they must win if they don't want to be displaced by other teams. I think De Zerbi's squad will have to do a good job this week as West Ham are starting to stalk them by just 2 points. If Brighton draws or loses then they will likely be knocked down to 10th place next week.

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November 20, 2023, 10:59:16 AM
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Yes, at least that can be a consideration, I think Ten Hag's management is good, but maybe Ten Hag recruited the wrong players, causing Manchester United's condition to become unstable like this.

it turns out that there are still many who believe in this coach and believe that Ten Hag will slowly start to improve it, Manchester United just need to be a little patient to be able to achieve optimal results, Manchester United must learn from last season where they experienced a decline and they recruited Ten Hag to become coach and immediately improved this team and in the end Ten Hag was able to improve Manchester United's performance slowly and I am sure that this season Ten Hag will also prove that he is capable. Ten Hag is a coach who is fearless.

Talking about the Champions League, Manchester United still has a chance, but it's only a small possibility because Manchester will face 2 big clubs who previously beat them, but if Manchester United can avenge their defeat, Manchester United will be able to qualify for the round of 16, but in my opinion, Manchester United has a chance are only in 3rd place and play in the European league (if they can).
It seems that the players recruited by Erik Ten Hag have not been able to contribute well to Manchester United so far and it seems that their new players and old players have experienced a decline in their performance so far. Hojlund, who is plotted as a striker, has not been able to provide a better performance this season by assisting and goal contributions in every match and he seems to need time to show his sharpness in scoring goals. I think the recruitment carried out by Erik Ten Hag is not too bad, but the new players need time to adapt to Erik Ten Hag game scheme.

Apart from that, I see that Manchester United have achieved 7 wins so far and they have to remain consistent to get into the top 4 before the first half of this season ends. Everton is the next opponent faced by Manchester United and looking at the quality of both teams, perhaps Manchester United will not have any difficulty beating Everton.
Hojlund is a well-intentioned player, but I don't think he is enough as a centre forward to take Manchester United to the next level. His stats in the Champions League may be good, but I think he is very inadequate in terms of his game, which we see in the Premier League. He was not good in the last game either. There are some moments when the team is not doing well, but the striker scores a goal and wins the match or becomes the fuse that ignites the team, although this boy has that energy, he is insufficient because of his technique. Maybe in the future he will improve his game and become better, but for now he is not a key player for ManU in my opinion. By the way, I have to say that Rashford's horrible form is getting annoying.
Manchester united should not rely on only one player alone for the success in this season and just like a tree can not make a forest,  there is a need for Manchester United to make sure they make adequate preparation for the after break and the last chance of transfers by January or February,  this is very important for the club,  unless their want to end the current season like how the ended the last season which is not good for the club.

Much more also,  we have to look further on what we tend to achieve in all of that,  which is similar to what other clubs want to achieve also and for that,  there will be a lot confrontationsnfornthem and in that way their tend to lose focus if Manchester United isn't sensitive enough to hold their positions.
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November 20, 2023, 10:59:29 AM
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Yes, it is not a must for goalkeepers, but goalkeepers who have the ability to do so have a plus point in this era of modern football. But again I say that it should not neglect the abilities of a goalkeeper that should be, as in the points I made earlier.
Now what happens to David de Gea is, when he is considered not to have good passing accuracy coupled with their defense that is not better organized. No matter how good a player is, he will not have a good pass when his teammates cannot open up space and can move without the ball.

This is a difficult discussion, but I think that any modern goalkeeper should be able to participate in building up the game. On the highest level I think most of the teams have a goalkeeper who is able to support the team with the ability to initiate high paced attacks. If one team has that and the other teams doesn't, one attack can make the difference between winning and losing. That is why these versatile goalkeepers are among the most expensive players in the market. The value has increased by a lot in the last few years.
Well that's what I mean too, maybe we've also seen how a goalkeeper can end up being the first person to start an attack that leads to a goal, be it with their long pass or through an attack from below.
Like I said earlier that this is a plus for a goalkeper. Not only can they keep a goal from being conceded, they can also start attacks from their feet. But again I would say that it is a plus, or in other words, they should not forget their main responsibility as a goalkeeper.


There are several examples to be found on Youtube for goalkeepers and how they give an assist with either a shot or some of them can throw the ball so precisely and like across the whole field that this can make a difference. But having a goalkeeper who also is close to having the quality to be a field-player is the optimal situation for any team. It can take a lot of pressure from the defensive players when they know that they can pass the ball back without hesitation. Otherwise it can often be seen how critical situations emerge out of nothing because players want to avoid to pass the ball back. Frankly, most goalkeepers today are quite good with their feet and they are usually integrated into the game. But some of them are really mastering their role.

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November 20, 2023, 11:01:12 AM
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As we saw last week against Chelsea, City was unable to win, how could you think that Manchester City could beat Liverpool, look at how Manchester City's back line conceded four goals so easily, this is a mistake that Guardiola must immediately fix, of course. It would be very detrimental for Manchester City if they didn't really fix their shortcomings in the back line which was quite lacking in strength like last season.
Because Chelsea conceded four goals in their last match against Chelsea, that doesn’t mean they can’t win Liverpool or they won’t be performing well in the match. Chelsea really played well in the match. I know Guardiola is really having lots to fix, but even with their current performance, they can still win Liverpool in the match. Don’t just underestimate Manchester City because they conceded four goals in their last match. I won’t be surprised if they win Liverpool in the match. Guardiola will do everything possible to maintain the current first position, and if Manchester City can’t win Liverpool, then they will be dropping from the position.

I hope you know Liverpool also played a draw against Luton Town in their last few matches. Luton Town is one of the weakest clubs this season, every team has been winning, but Liverpool couldn’t win the match, so I don’t think Liverpool is a very strong club that no club can compete with this season. Every club is having lapses this season, so I am not expecting anything special from Liverpool in the match. I still favor Manchester City to win the match.

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November 20, 2023, 11:34:08 AM
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Well that's what I mean too, maybe we've also seen how a goalkeeper can end up being the first person to start an attack that leads to a goal, be it with their long pass or through an attack from below.
Like I said earlier that this is a plus for a goalkeper. Not only can they keep a goal from being conceded, they can also start attacks from their feet. But again I would say that it is a plus, or in other words, they should not forget their main responsibility as a goalkeeper.


There are several examples to be found on Youtube for goalkeepers and how they give an assist with either a shot or some of them can throw the ball so precisely and like across the whole field that this can make a difference. But having a goalkeeper who also is close to having the quality to be a field-player is the optimal situation for any team. It can take a lot of pressure from the defensive players when they know that they can pass the ball back without hesitation. Otherwise it can often be seen how critical situations emerge out of nothing because players want to avoid to pass the ball back. Frankly, most goalkeepers today are quite good with their feet and they are usually integrated into the game. But some of them are really mastering their role.
Some football observers might say the same thing or even have a different assessment of how we see a goalkeeper in this modern era of football. Yes, we can't force our views to be the same as others, especialy since this is just an assessment from different perspectives but with the same goal in my opinion.
Yes I also said it requires support from other plyers, especially with players who have close proximity to them, yes in this case we will certainly talk about defensive players. We can't just look at one player, we have to look at all the players who move to create a good pass.

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November 20, 2023, 11:50:39 AM
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Some football observers might say the same thing or even have a different assessment of how we see a goalkeeper in this modern era of football. Yes, we can't force our views to be the same as others, especialy since this is just an assessment from different perspectives but with the same goal in my opinion.
Yes I also said it requires support from other plyers, especially with players who have close proximity to them, yes in this case we will certainly talk about defensive players. We can't just look at one player, we have to look at all the players who move to create a good pass.
Modern goalkeepers will still need to have excellent saving skills because clubs need saving skills most from a goalkeeper. It's hard to find goalkeepers like Ederson (Manchester City) or Becker (Liverpool) who can make key passes for attacking players. Requiring and letting goalkeepers use their legs too much will create more chances for mistakes. Manuel Neur is a pioneer for modern goalkeeper but if we notice, he made some terrible mistakes because he was over confident and overused his legs.

Making a good save is not different than scoring a goal for a team and goalkeeper rather than trying to make too many passes, can contribute to the club by making as many saves as possible to block opponent attacks and shots.

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November 20, 2023, 12:02:12 PM
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As we saw last week against Chelsea, City was unable to win, how could you think that Manchester City could beat Liverpool, look at how Manchester City's back line conceded four goals so easily, this is a mistake that Guardiola must immediately fix, of course. It would be very detrimental for Manchester City if they didn't really fix their shortcomings in the back line which was quite lacking in strength like last season.
On the other hand, Liverpool can't able to win against Luton Town which currently at 17th position and lose against Toulouse which currently at 14th position. Grin

But we need to take a look with the current condition, Manchester City will play without Ederson, Haaland, Ake and other players that still injured, they're lack of players. While Liverpool has more players, so I think this will be advantage for Liverpool and they have a better chance to win.
Every now and then seeing Manchester City lose is entertainment for us because it's been quite a long time and is almost rare. Therefore, there is no harm in supporting Liverpool to provide a perfect game. Despite Manchester City condition without several important players, Pep Guardiola always has a way to overcome his opponent's aggression. Now the test comes for Manchester City and I think it's appropriate for a club that always dominates every season to sometimes show a slightly poor performance.


Erik Ten Hag has failed in some areas and has taken too long to get these issues fixed up, but I will not support his sack for he understands the fans and the club very well.
What Manchester United is facing right now though is more than manager issues, at least he was told before joining Manchester United.
Qualification for the round of sixteen Gon be hard, but the Premier League top four would be possible.
It is difficult to fire Erik Ten Hag, especially now that the owner of Manchester United still provides full support for Erik Ten Hag to manage the club. Maybe in the next 1 or 2 seasons. If the results are able to improve gradually, it means that Ten Hag will continue to be maintained. Manchester United players just need to try to understand each other's wishes and also be aware of their position, if they can create teamwork then this club can easily return to its ideal format on the pitch.

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The goalkeeper is not the only problem but it's definitely a great problem in Manchester United. They don't have strong defenders to protect the team and the whole team is not in a good situation to have better results but the fact about the goalkeeper in Manchester United is mostly about changing the goalkeeper while they don't need to. De Gea had a good performance and he could have played for more years in Manchester United but they hired Onana and now this goalkeeper is injured while he didn't even have a good performance when he was playing for Manchester United.

Actually, previously I have said several times here that everyone doesn't have to blame Onana but let's look at Manchester United's defense and that is the problem point that Manchester United has at the moment, the defense is a little weak and for Onana I think that his performance is quite good and we remember How did Onana contribute to saving Manchester United's goal in the Champions League match at that time and that was Onana's actual performance.
Erik Ten Hag's task is actually not that difficult, just bring in quality defenders to strengthen the defense line and I still want to see Manchester United shine again like before.

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November 20, 2023, 12:12:01 PM
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Chelsea have such a challenging fixture these days. They are going to play away against Newcastle next time after leaving other big games behind consecutively. However Chelsea seemed really promising in those games. I'm not sure about whether they would have beaten Tottenham anyway if Tottenham didn't get any red card though. But especially that effort against Manchester City under bad weather conditions was marvelous!

Can they maintain this effort against Newcastle as well? I say why not. Because Newcastle are quite unbalanced recently. They are still one of the best home teams in the league though but it is the same for Chelsea in away games too. I think Chelsea will leave by at least one point here.

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November 20, 2023, 12:12:14 PM
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Brighton have never won in their last 5 matches and they have lost their consistency so they have lost their place to compete in the top 4. They achieved poor results with 4 draws and 1 defeat, this is quite a bad record considering their performance since last season has been so satisfying. Their next match will visit Nottingham headquarters and they must win if they don't want to be displaced by other teams. I think De Zerbi's squad will have to do a good job this week as West Ham are starting to stalk them by just 2 points. If Brighton draws or loses then they will likely be knocked down to 10th place next week.

How you start the season is important, but how you continue is more important. This is the biggest problem small teams, they start very well but cannot continue consistently. Brighton have not been able to win points for weeks, I think they will continue like this. Actually, there is no significant point difference between them and their rivals, but the gap seems to be widening.
I hope they win the next match and the team starts to recover Smiley

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November 20, 2023, 12:16:13 PM
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Manchester City's standings are currently still in 1st place and I can't wait to watch the upcoming match, namely Manchester city against Liverpool and these two teams are strong teams and in that match I want to see the best performance of Haaland who is currently the top scorer in English league 2023, 2024.

and I think Liverpool will be a tough opponent for Manchester City because there is Mohamed Salah who is currently the 2nd top scorer in the English league 2023, 2024.
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and I see that Liverpool's performance is now getting better and against Brentford the score was 3-0 and Liverpool won the match and Mohamed Salah performed brilliantly and scored a goal.
We'll see how exciting the match between Manchester City oppose Liverpool will be
what do you think and who will win? but I'm sure Manchester City will win.
The next English Premier League fixture of Manchester City which will be a home game against their old rivals Liverpool is unarguably the most interesting game this weekend in the league. The result of that very game might change the current status of the league table because a win for the visitors will see them overtake Manchester City at the top of the league standings.
Pep Guardiola Manchester City and Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool has been the biggest rivals in the league over the past six years and their rivalry will once again be tested when they meet on Saturday at the Etihad stadium. It's a very difficult game to predict the outcome if you ask me but I know the both teams are definitely gonna score in that game

It is very difficult to predict the result of the match between Manchester City and Liverpool because both teams are very great, and the difference in points is also very small, namely Manchester City 28 while Liverpool 27. I'm sure the Liverpool coach will Use a good strategy. as will the Manchester City coach.

I also think it looks like the 2 teams will score goals and reply to each other. I'm sure that Mohamed Salah, and Diogo Jota, will put in their best performance again because I saw the greatness of their play and a lot of ball control against Brentford. I think Manchester City also has mainstay players, namely Haaland, Rodri, M. Akanji that I saw the quality of the game was very good.
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November 20, 2023, 12:20:09 PM
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I was quite surprised because Everton were also considered guilty of financial matters. They seem to be about to get a 10-point deduction. Even Leeds and Leicester City, who were relegated last year, are demanding compensation. They have a one-month gap with the case. Besides, this point deduction will make Everton relegated?
I think this only happens to Man City and Chelsea who are in the process of being investigated. But it turns out that there are clubs that have already been punished and this looks like it will extend beyond Chelsea and Man City.

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November 20, 2023, 12:20:22 PM
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How you start the season is important, but how you continue is more important. This is the biggest problem small teams, they start very well but cannot continue consistently. Brighton have not been able to win points for weeks, I think they will continue like this. Actually, there is no significant point difference between them and their rivals, but the gap seems to be widening.
I hope they win the next match and the team starts to recover Smiley
Rivals will not give up, always scouting for good results against their fellow average club. Brighton & Hove Albion doesn't compact winning strategies because they're not consistent in EPL matches. The Seagulls headcoach, Roberto De Zerbi will be dissapointed if his team doesn't grab winning points against Nottingham Forest. Imagine Brighton having 3 straight draws in their last 3 games which I found to be really low for such a team that has this standards. By the way, these shared points are against mediocre teams which simply are struggling for significant positions on EPL table.

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November 20, 2023, 12:27:56 PM
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Brighton have never won in their last 5 matches and they have lost their consistency so they have lost their place to compete in the top 4. They achieved poor results with 4 draws and 1 defeat, this is quite a bad record considering their performance since last season has been so satisfying. Their next match will visit Nottingham headquarters and they must win if they don't want to be displaced by other teams. I think De Zerbi's squad will have to do a good job this week as West Ham are starting to stalk them by just 2 points. If Brighton draws or loses then they will likely be knocked down to 10th place next week.
Unlike last season where Brighton was able to play effectively. I find it quite difficult to find a reason why this season they seem to have lost their way of playing. Or indeed Brighton target is not too grandiose as long as qualifying for the Europa League is already an achievement. Many speculators say that Brighton goal in the Premier League competition is only to create talented players to supply to big clubs at high prices in other words doing business by buying cheap unknown players. If you look deeper into Brighton football academy, you will definitely find the names of players who are relatively unknown and who were not in the spotlight much when they were recruited by big clubs. The point is that Brighton has a different way of taking young players in remote areas of the country.

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November 20, 2023, 12:30:17 PM
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Manchester City vs Liverpool, expects more goals to be score, awaiting to watch one of the big games this season. Pep Guardiola will shake hands again with Jurgen Klopp in Etihad Stadium when they meet after international break. Manchester City can not easily get a win against Liverpool that happens to be one of the most competitive clubs in EPL this season. However checking from the other side, Liverpool have good squad that records streak winnings in gamed and they will not also succumb to Manchester City fierce pattern of game, as I'm pretty sure they will absorb all pressure.
That match is going to be the strongest match on this weekend, for two champion to meet each other is actually going to be a tough one because the both team will put in all possible efforts to win the match but however considering there meetings all the times Manchester City has always make more wins than Liverpool.

So I think the same thing may likely occur on this match because checking there performances this season Manchester City has been more in a good performance than Liverpool that's why they have been the number one position on the premier League table. Also considering there stand if Liverpool wins them so this is going to be one of the matches they can never joke with because if Liverpool wins them they automatically become the first on the premier League table because there point different with Manchester City is just one.

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November 20, 2023, 12:39:28 PM
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Hojlund is a well-intentioned player, but I don't think he is enough as a centre forward to take Manchester United to the next level. His stats in the Champions League may be good, but I think he is very inadequate in terms of his game, which we see in the Premier League. He was not good in the last game either. There are some moments when the team is not doing well, but the striker scores a goal and wins the match or becomes the fuse that ignites the team, although this boy has that energy, he is insufficient because of his technique. Maybe in the future he will improve his game and become better, but for now he is not a key player for ManU in my opinion. By the way, I have to say that Rashford's horrible form is getting annoying.

That's why, Ten Hag prefers him over other players. even though, at that time Juve wanted to release their center forward, Vlahovic. Apart from that, there are several players that Ten Hag is targeting according to the budget they have. In the interview session between Ten Hag and Hojlund, Ten Hag had a personal assessment of this player. Of course he can't be relied on at the moment, after all he's not a pure, ready-to-use sticker like Kane.
Ideally, Ten Hag wants good progress from the players he brought in from Atalanta. Unfortunately, he has not been able to maximize his performance in the Premier League in his nine matches. However, he performed well in the Champions League by scoring five goals in four matches. I mean, there is something wrong with the United squad as a whole. This is not just a problem for Hojlund alone, but for the entire team. that's why he had difficulty scoring his first goal in the Premier League. So, that's why we are waiting after all United players have recovered from their injuries, especially the core players.

For now, we give him the opportunity to learn a lot and achieve a strong bond between the players. because from my point of view, United players don't have a strong bond, especially new players who tend to be ignored. on the other hand, some players are not disciplined and want to appear and show their respective prowess. Ten Hag must fix this problem in the future. also, for Marcus Rashford. We'll see, United still have a lot of games to play. especially, if in the end they resign from the Champions League and don't have tickets to the European League. automatically, their focus is only on this competition.

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November 20, 2023, 12:57:47 PM
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Because Chelsea conceded four goals in their last match against Chelsea, that doesn’t mean they can’t win Liverpool or they won’t be performing well in the match. Chelsea really played well in the match. I know Guardiola is really having lots to fix, but even with their current performance, they can still win Liverpool in the match. Don’t just underestimate Manchester City because they conceded four goals in their last match. I won’t be surprised if they win Liverpool in the match. Guardiola will do everything possible to maintain the current first position, and if Manchester City can’t win Liverpool, then they will be dropping from the position.

I hope you know Liverpool also played a draw against Luton Town in their last few matches. Luton Town is one of the weakest clubs this season, every team has been winning, but Liverpool couldn’t win the match, so I don’t think Liverpool is a very strong club that no club can compete with this season. Every club is having lapses this season, so I am not expecting anything special from Liverpool in the match. I still favor Manchester City to win the match.
Liverpool are really organised pretty well than Chelsea no doubt but you can’t take away the fact that Chelsea played really well in that fixture, Manchester City are English and European Champions and can defeat Liverpool with just some sneaky game play but no doubt Liverpool who sits 2nd are really good too they're not a team to easily deal with.

 Liverpool haven’t gotten the full organization and force that could challenge City yet but they’re a team that could upset you in the match, but for Punters i give it to Manchester City to come out with a 2 goal margin, well they might find it a little difficult cause the match between both clubs is always coupled with the fact that Liverpool is in a good form this season compared to the previous one.

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November 20, 2023, 01:03:23 PM
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How you start the season is important, but how you continue is more important. 

I think Sir Alex Ferguson will disagree haha; why? because under his tutelage; Manchester United always start the season slow; and thats why SAF often says the season starts in September; and it is true. Ferguson also believes the league is won in february/march; where there are huge fixture pile up.

If any team wants to tackle Manchester city for the league title this season; they need to make themselves consistent.
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November 20, 2023, 01:12:34 PM
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Newcastle Chelsea is another match that's yet to receive more attention in recent discussion, I see that game as another interesting one that will be happening this weekend bin Europe, aside Manchester city and Liverpool which has been most discussed and speculated since this week.

The blues have recently been showing some strength as seen in their most recent games starting with their win against Tottenham, that was when their morale and confidence took a new shape and ever since the story hasn't been the same as they keep showing strength back to back with any team they have met after then, although Newcastle isn't a weak team but I sense they will find it difficult considering how well the blues did faced Manchester city last week and held them to an epic draw.

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November 20, 2023, 01:16:34 PM
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I was quite surprised because Everton were also considered guilty of financial matters. They seem to be about to get a 10-point deduction. Even Leeds and Leicester City, who were relegated last year, are demanding compensation. They have a one-month gap with the case. Besides, this point deduction will make Everton relegated?
It may have been demoralizing to lose the hard-earned points due to mistakes by the management but they will recover. They are just 5 points behind 17th place Luton after the 10-point deduction so Everton should be able to climb out of the relegation zone again since there are plenty of games left to catch up.

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