Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025

[abhiseshakana]

Liverpool looks like they will compete with a little difficulty in finding a good strategy, they must have a coach who can see the situation and condition of their players on the field. This has been a tough start to the season for Liverpool. I see that currently Arne Slot is the coach of Liverpool. Hopefully under his coaching Liverpool can achieve victory or at least stay at the top of the standings

For the strategy issue, I don't think it's too much of a problem because Arne Slot has his own ability in using what kind of formation. But it will be very difficult to adapt to the style of play in the Premier League and the adaptation will take time because he has to try to see the team's needs. Of course, changing coaches will have an impact and what is always problematic is the adaptation between players and coaches.

Arne Slot's target may not be too big in his first season, but he must be able to maintain his position in the top three of the standings. If he fails, then I'm sure he won't last long as Liverpool coach because we can see how Jurgen Klopp has built Liverpool so well.

Becoming a coach in the Premier League is not an easy matter, especially if the person really has no previous experience in the Premier League, and I think that is the condition that Arne Slot will face. What he will handle is not just a common team, but Liverpool, which we all know is a big team and will always be a champion candidate in every season. I guess, Slot will face some intriguing problems at the beginning of this season because Liverpool has indeed been in Klopp's hands for too long, so it won't be easy to replace what Liverpool has inherited from their previous coach.

[mamesso]

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Manchester City success in winning the Premier League trophy four times in a row was due to the setbacks experienced by its competitors such as Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Tottenham, they failed to appear as consistent as Arsenal. In my opinion, next season the competition for trophies will be even more competitive, so that if Manchester City makes even a small mistake, their dominance can be broken. Pep Guardiola must put serious thoughts into next season, because last season they were very lucky because only Arsenal was their main competitor. It is possible that Arsenal will be able to overtake Manchester City next season, and will end their title drought for more than two decades.

The decline in performance experienced by its competitors has made it easier for Manchester City to dominate the Premier League. It is not easy to win the EPL title in four consecutive seasons, but Guardiola managed to do it with Manchester City. Luck still came to Manchester City last season, if Arsenal hadn't made a mistake, maybe they would have lost the EPL title. Guardiola must be able to make Manchester City perform optimally next season, its competitors who have experienced a decline in performance are starting to prepare their best squad to face the competition. The rise of several big teams in the EPL in the title race will make it even more difficult for Manchester City to dominate the EPL, yes, the slightest mistake will make Manchester City lose the trophy it has won in the last four years.

[wmaurik]

The current squad in the Liverpool team does not necessarily suit Arne Slot's style of play, so that cannot be a benchmark and indeed Liverpool management should give Arne Slot the freedom to build this team the way he wants.
Arne Slot doesn't have any experience in the Premier League and I think it's normal for many to doubt him in the first season, but in my opinion anything is possible for him so nothing is certain here until we see proof from Arne Slot.

A team as big as Liverpool is of course targeting to win but they will also be realistic, maybe in Arne Slot's first season there will not be too much emphasis on setting high targets.

The target itself must be higher, even if the results are different at the end of the season, we must also be grateful, remembering that Arne Slot is just a new coach who has no experience in a more competitive league like the Premier League. And I think Arne Slot himself is also quite aware of this so he himself will definitely try to make more thorough preparations in facing next season as his first season at Liverpool from now on. Because as bad as a team like Liverpool is, of course they also have to be in the top four of the standings in terms of minimum achievements through their new coach.

[Farma]

The current squad in the Liverpool team does not necessarily suit Arne Slot's style of play, so that cannot be a benchmark and indeed Liverpool management should give Arne Slot the freedom to build this team the way he wants.
Arne Slot doesn't have any experience in the Premier League and I think it's normal for many to doubt him in the first season, but in my opinion anything is possible for him so nothing is certain here until we see proof from Arne Slot.

A team as big as Liverpool is of course targeting to win but they will also be realistic, maybe in Arne Slot's first season there will not be too much emphasis on setting high targets.

The target itself must be higher, even if the results are different at the end of the season, we must also be grateful, remembering that Arne Slot is just a new coach who has no experience in a more competitive league like the Premier League. And I think Arne Slot himself is also quite aware of this so he himself will definitely try to make more thorough preparations in facing next season as his first season at Liverpool from now on. Because as bad as a team like Liverpool is, of course they also have to be in the top four of the standings in terms of minimum achievements through their new coach.

Entering the top 4 of the Premier League is not an easy thing.
A team as big as Liverpool will certainly set high targets, regardless of whether they have a new coach, but of course this team has a goal of winning titles in all the competitions they participate in, but we also have to look at this realistically.
Every team that changes coaches is not an easy thing to maintain performance or get better, we have seen several examples in the Premier League such as Manchester United or Chelsea so it is very likely that Liverpool will also do the same.

[Ruttoshi]

Well you have a point but what am actually saying is that Manchester City winning the Premier League again would make the Premier league look somehow mediocre but am speaking from ny perspective though and if i would like anything else it would be for another team to be winners of  the league maybe arsenal or even other team to atleast heat up the tension in the league.

Yeah we understand what you mean, the Premier League is the most competitive league for decades so if a team can win the title 5-6 times in a row, it means that the competitive title is no longer worthy of the Premier League the meaning is the same as Ligue 1 which is dominated by PSG and Bundesliga which is mostly dominated by Bayern Munich. I've said it since last season that we would have liked to see another team win the title but unfortunately Manchester City managed to take over towards the end of the season.

Manchester City success in winning the Premier League trophy four times in a row was due to the setbacks experienced by its competitors such as Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Tottenham, they failed to appear as consistent as Arsenal. In my opinion, next season the competition for trophies will be even more competitive, so that if Manchester City makes even a small mistake, their dominance can be broken. Pep Guardiola must put serious thoughts into next season, because last season they were very lucky because only Arsenal was their main competitor. It is possible that Arsenal will be able to overtake Manchester City next season, and will end their title drought for more than two decades.

Currently in EPL, Manchester City is the strongest and they have being with their coach Pep for Avery long time as he was the one that revived the club and made it as strong as it is now. The bind is very tight between the players and the coach is in a good relationship with the players making it easy for them to understand each other.

This is why I don't think that any club will be able to win the title next season apart from Arsenal if only they can be more determined and stay focused than last season. The rest clubs will only try their best but City will still remain the superior until Pep leaves the club.

[rahmad2nd]

Next season will be a very interesting one seeing that kloop won't be anymore in Liverpool and it would be more interesting seeing how some of the big team have made arrangements to actually make thing's a little hard for Manchester city because they can afford to make errors that will make Manchester city become champions of the league anymore  and Liverpool are one of the best teams that can stop there.

Liverpool looks like they will compete with a little difficulty in finding a good strategy, they must have a coach who can see the situation and condition of their players on the field. This has been a tough start to the season for Liverpool. I see that currently Arne Slot is the coach of Liverpool. Hopefully under his coaching Liverpool can achieve victory or at least stay at the top of the standings.

Klopp has left, and now it's a new era for Liverpool under the guidance of Arne Slot. So far we haven't seen anything displayed by Liverpool, there are no other words other than waiting for Liverpool's performance when the League starts. Talking about Arne Slot, he definitely knows what he has to do for his squad before the competition starts. For now, Arne Slot and the club are moving towards the transfer window to strengthen their team. So, let's see how Liverpool performs match after match. We know very well that this season has been a challenging start for Liverpool and Arne Slot as the new boss at Anfield, because we have not yet seen Liverpool's performance under their new coach.

However, at least Arne Slot will do his job as best as possible to make Liverpool perform well, even better than before. Arne Slot also knows that the Premier League is very competitive with its competitors in the race for the title, it is not an easy matter to break the dominance of Manchester City, which for four consecutive seasons has always been at the top of the standings. Apart from that, there is Arsenal who are racing to be more competitive in order to win the title which is their mission.
There are also other teams that will both maximize their strengths in the new season.
Currently these teams are focused on the transfer window, either recruiting or releasing players. Liverpool is the same, Arne Slot will use his energy very well in his first season. either he can take Liverpool quickly in a much better direction, or Arne needs time. What is certain is that I hope that next season the competition will be more exciting and competitive.

[fadhilz123]

Liverpool looks like they will compete with a little difficulty in finding a good strategy, they must have a coach who can see the situation and condition of their players on the field. This has been a tough start to the season for Liverpool. I see that currently Arne Slot is the coach of Liverpool. Hopefully under his coaching Liverpool can achieve victory or at least stay at the top of the standings.

To be able to stay at the top of the standings in the Premier League next season with a new coach will be quite difficult for Liverpool, because Manchester City and Arsenal are still being coached by their old coaches so that this will be a real obstacle for Liverpool to be able to stay at the top of the standings. But if it's just to be able to land in the Champions League zone or the top four zone, I think that could be quite possible for Liverpool as long as Arne Slot is able to take care of his players as well as possible next season.

[Promocodeudo]

For the past 2 years, we have hoped more to see Arsenal win the EPL trophy but everything has been thwarted by Manchester City. I still wonder why luck is still not on Arsenal's side, even though they have a good squad to be able to win it. On the other hand, I also can't avoid the fact that Manchester City is slightly above them.

So can we hope for more for Arsenal next season? and what needs to change to be able to win this long-cherished title? Even though there will still be hope, as a team they should not be afraid of anyone and what is certain is that when facing Manchester City they cannot play it safe anymore or just look for a draw if they really want the title.

Manchester city has been doing what they know how to do best as for Arsenal, I think they have to do more, Arsenal has been recorded as one the inconsistent team in the English premier League, arsenal flopping always happens towards middle or the end of every season, so why can't they figure out what the matter is and sort it out, yea, know doubt Manchester city has a good team to tackle any football club in the English premiership but one will also agree with me that the reason for them to keep the ground running smoothly is because they understands the need to keep good record of winning, there is one strategy Manchester city usually make use of which is winning smaller teams to get the points and playing bigger team to win or get a draw, I have mentioned this before, I think arsenal needs to come up with a good strategy to lift the English premier League trophy but if they continue the way the did in the previous seasons, they won't get it right any time soon.

[Leviathan.007]

Liverpool looks like they will compete with a little difficulty in finding a good strategy, they must have a coach who can see the situation and condition of their players on the field. This has been a tough start to the season for Liverpool. I see that currently Arne Slot is the coach of Liverpool. Hopefully under his coaching Liverpool can achieve victory or at least stay at the top of the standings

For the strategy issue, I don't think it's too much of a problem because Arne Slot has his own ability in using what kind of formation. But it will be very difficult to adapt to the style of play in the Premier League and the adaptation will take time because he has to try to see the team's needs. Of course, changing coaches will have an impact and what is always problematic is the adaptation between players and coaches.

Arne Slot's target may not be too big in his first season, but he must be able to maintain his position in the top three of the standings. If he fails, then I'm sure he won't last long as Liverpool coach because we can see how Jurgen Klopp has built Liverpool so well.

The bad thing for Slot is about the pressure he will have on this team. Liverpool had a good performance recently and they had good days and could get good results with Klopp during the time when he was working there. Also, Klopp was very famous among the fans of Liverpool and that's why I think people expect to see a perfect performance from Slop since he is going to fill the place of Klopp in this team.
  

[Luzin]

The bad thing for Slot is about the pressure he will have on this team. Liverpool had a good performance recently and they had good days and could get good results with Klopp during the time when he was working there. Also, Klopp was very famous among the fans of Liverpool and that's why I think people expect to see a perfect performance from Slop since he is going to fill the place of Klopp in this team.
  

There will be changes and it will definitely happen. I think Slot needs more adaptation. Maybe what he is carrying at the moment is a fairly heavy burden, because the football philosophy that Kloop brings is very attached to the team. Those who have high hopes for the new coach may not understand that the coach needs to adapt and the team's condition has changed a lot. Slot is also not a new coach, but the style of play in the Netherlands and England is much different.

[Stable090]

To be able to stay at the top of the standings in the Premier League next season with a new coach will be quite difficult for Liverpool, because Manchester City and Arsenal are still being coached by their old coaches so that this will be a real obstacle for Liverpool to be able to stay at the top of the standings.

The beginning of next season won’t be easy for Liverpool because the new coach will have to introduce his own pattern, which might not really be easy for the players at the beginning, but both Manchester City and Arsenal will have to continue with their last season pattern since there is no change in their coach and they didn’t lose so many players. But I am sure that with time, Liverpool players will get used to the new coach, and things are going to be balanced, but it’s not going to be at the beginning of the season. Seriously, I am not even expecting anything serious from Liverpool next season.

But if it's just to be able to land in the Champions League zone or the top four zone, I think that could be quite possible for Liverpool as long as Arne Slot is able to take care of his players as well as possible next season.

Securing a Champions League slot shouldn’t be that difficult for Liverpool, Arne Slot should be able to do that, but I am not expecting Liverpool to win the Premier League title next season, I don’t think that’s really going to be possible.

[Justbillywitt]

Liverpool looks like they will compete with a little difficulty in finding a good strategy, they must have a coach who can see the situation and condition of their players on the field. This has been a tough start to the season for Liverpool. I see that currently Arne Slot is the coach of Liverpool. Hopefully under his coaching Liverpool can achieve victory or at least stay at the top of the standings.

To be able to stay at the top of the standings in the Premier League next season with a new coach will be quite difficult for Liverpool, because Manchester City and Arsenal are still being coached by their old coaches so that this will be a real obstacle for Liverpool to be able to stay at the top of the standings. But if it's just to be able to land in the Champions League zone or the top four zone, I think that could be quite possible for Liverpool as long as Arne Slot is able to take care of his players as well as possible next season.

That's true for Arne Slot and Liverpool they have to lower their expectations on Slot in his first season as the head coach. Both Klopp and Pep Guardiola didn't do very well in their first season of managing in the premier league. Arteta too struggled when he first took over as the head coach of Arsenal. But Slot first season will determine if he is going to last long as the head coach of Liverpool, Arne Slot is also lucky that he is in a club like Liverpool who are patient with their coaches. So he has to take his time and settle in very well. The fans of Liverpool will be patient with him as well. He should just get the right players that he wants to work with and try and qualify Liverpool for Champions league. If he is able to achieve this then the season will be a successful one for him and Liverpool, then from his second season he can start fighting for the league.

[bering]

Although Chelsea has successfully to gets Marc Guiu from Barcelona but apparently they still targetting want to gets at least 1 more attacking player and now they switching their target to Aston Villa player Ollie Watkins and it says Chelsea even are willing to swap Conor Gallagher with Ollie Watkins plus some money for this transfer because they really want to gets this player and indeed Unay Emery admitted that he is very impressed with the performance of Conor Gallagher this season with Chelsea and seems Chelsea realize this condition so that's why they offering Conor Gallagher as part of this transfer

Currently Ollie Watkins still focus with England National Team on Euro Cup and he still attempts to help this team to gets their first trophy from this tournament and probably after this tournament ended Chelsea will attempts to bid him however actually Unay Emery doesn't want to sell Ollie Watkins because he feels Ollie Watkins is important player for Aston Villa but just like i said above Chelsea has offering Conor Gallagher as part of the deal so probably Unay Emery will be change his mind because he is the fans of Conor Gallagher

[Ndabagi01]

Liverpool looks like they will compete with a little difficulty in finding a good strategy, they must have a coach who can see the situation and condition of their players on the field. This has been a tough start to the season for Liverpool. I see that currently Arne Slot is the coach of Liverpool. Hopefully under his coaching Liverpool can achieve victory or at least stay at the top of the standings.

To be able to stay at the top of the standings in the Premier League next season with a new coach will be quite difficult for Liverpool, because Manchester City and Arsenal are still being coached by their old coaches so that this will be a real obstacle for Liverpool to be able to stay at the top of the standings. But if it's just to be able to land in the Champions League zone or the top four zone, I think that could be quite possible for Liverpool as long as Arne Slot is able to take care of his players as well as possible next season.

What’s makes you think that when Bayern Leverkusen were able to stay on top of the league standings and even won the league title with a new Coach, Xabi Alonso. It all depends on the strategy the coach is using and how it can integrate perfectly well into the overall gameplay of the team in the league as they meet different teams. With a quality squad like the one we have at Liverpool, Arne Slot will only do more justice to it if he uses the best approach and strategy for the team to be at the top of the standings or be a notable contender of the premier league amongst other top teams in the league. A contender of the Premier League and a possible slot in the next champions league is possible for Liverpool with their present squad and new coach.

[tusandii]

Well you have a point but what am actually saying is that Manchester City winning the Premier League again would make the Premier league look somehow mediocre but am speaking from ny perspective though and if i would like anything else it would be for another team to be winners of  the league maybe arsenal or even other team to atleast heat up the tension in the league.

Yeah we understand what you mean, the Premier League is the most competitive league for decades so if a team can win the title 5-6 times in a row, it means that the competitive title is no longer worthy of the Premier League the meaning is the same as Ligue 1 which is dominated by PSG and Bundesliga which is mostly dominated by Bayern Munich. I've said it since last season that we would have liked to see another team win the title but unfortunately Manchester City managed to take over towards the end of the season.

Manchester City success in winning the Premier League trophy four times in a row was due to the setbacks experienced by its competitors such as Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Tottenham, they failed to appear as consistent as Arsenal. In my opinion, next season the competition for trophies will be even more competitive, so that if Manchester City makes even a small mistake, their dominance can be broken. Pep Guardiola must put serious thoughts into next season, because last season they were very lucky because only Arsenal was their main competitor. It is possible that Arsenal will be able to overtake Manchester City next season, and will end their title drought for more than two decades.

Currently in EPL, Manchester City is the strongest and they have being with their coach Pep for Avery long time as he was the one that revived the club and made it as strong as it is now. The bind is very tight between the players and the coach is in a good relationship with the players making it easy for them to understand each other.

This is why I don't think that any club will be able to win the title next season apart from Arsenal if only they can be more determined and stay focused than last season. The rest clubs will only try their best but City will still remain the superior until Pep leaves the club.

A close relationship between players and coaches is really needed to create close chemistry and be able to implement every strategy that the coach can always provide.
Maybe that's the only reason Man City has been able to achieve success with Pep Guardiola so far and it's one of the best ways a club can give freedom and opportunities to coaches.

I agree with you that only Arsenal currently has the biggest chance of replacing Man City in the future to win the Premier League title, but it all depends on Arsenal management whether they can still give Arteta a chance.
Arteta has been able to provide 2nd place for the last 2 seasons which can be proof that Arteta can be successful with Arsenal.

[Docnaster]

The bad thing for Slot is about the pressure he will have on this team. Liverpool had a good performance recently and they had good days and could get good results with Klopp during the time when he was working there. Also, Klopp was very famous among the fans of Liverpool and that's why I think people expect to see a perfect performance from Slop since he is going to fill the place of Klopp in this team.
  

There will be changes and it will definitely happen. I think Slot needs more adaptation. Maybe what he is carrying at the moment is a fairly heavy burden, because the football philosophy that Kloop brings is very attached to the team. Those who have high hopes for the new coach may not understand that the coach needs to adapt and the team's condition has changed a lot. Slot is also not a new coach, but the style of play in the Netherlands and England is much different.

When you come to top English clubs, I don't think Liverpool falls in the category of fan bases that are known for being impatient with their club managers so i think Arne Slot will not be thrown into unnecessary by the club fans. Liverpool fans were patient with their former manager Jurgen Klopp and were always chanting in support of him during his first season with the club which was one of the things that motivated the German to do his best for the club and I strongly believe they're going to do same for their new manager. Jurgen Klopp's style of football I think is different with Arne Slot's kind of football so I think it'll take a little time for the new manager to fully implement his style of football. I believe the Dutch manager will succeed at Anfield with the right support.

[hahay]

The bad thing for Slot is about the pressure he will have on this team. Liverpool had a good performance recently and they had good days and could get good results with Klopp during the time when he was working there. Also, Klopp was very famous among the fans of Liverpool and that's why I think people expect to see a perfect performance from Slop since he is going to fill the place of Klopp in this team.
  

There will be changes and it will definitely happen. I think Slot needs more adaptation. Maybe what he is carrying at the moment is a fairly heavy burden, because the football philosophy that Kloop brings is very attached to the team. Those who have high hopes for the new coach may not understand that the coach needs to adapt and the team's condition has changed a lot. Slot is also not a new coach, but the style of play in the Netherlands and England is much different.

It would be wrong if they expected Slot to have the same abilities as Klopp, because of course when the team has a new manager it will be very possible for changes. So, it is not right or maybe wrong if they expect Slot to be able to produce the same results as Klopp did during his coaching era at Liverpool.

Because of course, with a new coach like this, they also have to be able to understand all the changes that will of course occur. Also, they must also be patient for better results because if they want quick success, then they will be the same as Chelsea. So yes, I think let Slot adapt first and of course, we also have to be patient for good results which of course everyone hopes for Slot to be able to do for Liverpool.

[wiss19]

For the past 2 years, we have hoped more to see Arsenal win the EPL trophy but everything has been thwarted by Manchester City. I still wonder why luck is still not on Arsenal's side, even though they have a good squad to be able to win it. On the other hand, I also can't avoid the fact that Manchester City is slightly above them.

So can we hope for more for Arsenal next season? and what needs to change to be able to win this long-cherished title? Even though there will still be hope, as a team they should not be afraid of anyone and what is certain is that when facing Manchester City they cannot play it safe anymore or just look for a draw if they really want the title.

Few years back Arsenal were medicor as their main business was having youngsters into their squad and after development selling them for higher price but now as we have Mikel Arteta we are having change into their system, and they are trying their best for having trophies as well which is not working for them with in last two years we have huge development into their performance which bring them to the 2nd spot consecutively and now in third season things are looking interesting for their title race because still they are one of the best and having fair chance of winning title.

Even Manchester City is having better squad and their player's depth is also better but as we have good changes into Arsenal through Mikel Arteta we can expect better results and things can take change for them to win title which could be historic because now we are heading for the hat trick of Manchester City, and they are only which can stopped them from doing this.

[piebeyb]

Liverpool looks like they will compete with a little difficulty in finding a good strategy, they must have a coach who can see the situation and condition of their players on the field. This has been a tough start to the season for Liverpool. I see that currently Arne Slot is the coach of Liverpool. Hopefully under his coaching Liverpool can achieve victory or at least stay at the top of the standings.

To be able to stay at the top of the standings in the Premier League next season with a new coach will be quite difficult for Liverpool, because Manchester City and Arsenal are still being coached by their old coaches so that this will be a real obstacle for Liverpool to be able to stay at the top of the standings. But if it's just to be able to land in the Champions League zone or the top four zone, I think that could be quite possible for Liverpool as long as Arne Slot is able to take care of his players as well as possible next season.

Since in the Klopp era, Liverpool seems to have difficulty breaking Manchester City's dominance in the EPL, so I think everyone will not be confident that Arne Slot, who has inherited what Klopp has left at Liverpool, will not be able to easily succeed in making this team play better than before. All fans hope to win the EPL title in the new season, the competition will clearly be very tight, especially as many teams in the EPL are recruiting good players in their squad. This will be an exciting competition in the new season, but it's true that Arne Slot doesn't need to do the work who is hard enough just to win the trophy next season, just being in the top four is enough and qualifying for the important round of the UCL next season.

[Frankolala]

For the past 2 years, we have hoped more to see Arsenal win the EPL trophy but everything has been thwarted by Manchester City. I still wonder why luck is still not on Arsenal's side, even though they have a good squad to be able to win it. On the other hand, I also can't avoid the fact that Manchester City is slightly above them.

So can we hope for more for Arsenal next season? and what needs to change to be able to win this long-cherished title? Even though there will still be hope, as a team they should not be afraid of anyone and what is certain is that when facing Manchester City they cannot play it safe anymore or just look for a draw if they really want the title.

Few years back Arsenal were medicor as their main business was having youngsters into their squad and after development selling them for higher price but now as we have Mikel Arteta we are having change into their system, and they are trying their best for having trophies as well which is not working for them with in last two years we have huge development into their performance which bring them to the 2nd spot consecutively and now in third season things are looking interesting for their title race because still they are one of the best and having fair chance of winning title.

Even Manchester City is having better squad and their player's depth is also better but as we have good changes into Arsenal through Mikel Arteta we can expect better results and things can take change for them to win title which could be historic because now we are heading for the hat trick of Manchester City, and they are only which can stopped them from doing this.

Pep knows that Arteta is a good coach and he was very careful of making sure that he does not lose to Arteta because he has seen him as his rival. Imagine a boy being a rival to his Boss that tells good about Arteta as a good coach. In the beginning when Arteta went to Arsenal Pep didn't see him as a threat but as time passes on Arteta became that threat that Pep never thought of.

Next season is the time for Arsenal to stand a d fight till the end so that Arteta can prove to Pep that he has improved very well and have become better, otherwise Arteta will still remain a boy to Pep if he cannot win the league in the third season after making good attempt in two consecutive seasons.