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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 35 (49.3%)
Liverpool - 10 (14.1%)
Arsenal - 21 (29.6%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 4 (5.6%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.4%)
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July 16, 2024, 04:26:08 AM

Till date, I'm not convinced how Manchester City let Manchester united win that FA cup as if they weren't interested but football happen, luck get on their side and they make perfect used of it but it doesn't change the fact that they are the most useless team so far and Erik needs to go but the management isn't scanning beyond the managers, they think the players are still the problem why they have underperformed in the last 3 season without anything to show in their gallery.

I never have a clue they had match, it didn't trended. Unlike then, Manchester united I know always trend for the good reason but it seems the PR is also dead like the career. Analyzing their game with Rosenborg, I wouldn't want to use this to judge if the team is really strong for the season but more than 60% of the squad aren't available, Rashford, Casemiro, Mount and some few OGs representated but they should have drawwd the match but they loss. Let's see how the team will respond when the rest are back fully.
Manchester United's management must be a little confused because on the one hand, Ten Hag has not been able to make Manchester United a truly strong team in the English Premier League. On the one hand, Ten Hag was also successful in bringing Manchester United to become champions in the FA Cup competition. So with these two things, Manchester United management must be very confused about Ten Hag's contract. Maybe this season Manchester United management will really bet for the last time on Ten Hag. So if Ten Hag again fails to bring Manchester United to become Premier League champions, or at least into the top 3, it is certain that Ten Hag will definitely be fired from Manchester United next season. The reason is, there are many opinions and speculation regarding the causes of Manchester United's poor performance. Some say that it is the player factor that makes Manchester United what it is today, and there are also those who say that Ten Hag is the main cause of Manchester United's poor performance. But in my personal opinion, Manchester United currently has very good players. Just mention Alejandro Garnacho, Rasmus Hojlund and also Bruno Fernandes. So if you say that player factors are the cause of Manchester United's poor performance, in my opinion that doesn't make sense. The reason is that the Manchester players, almost all of them have very good talents. So it is clear that Ten Hag is the biggest possible cause of Manchester United's poor performance.

Then regarding the Manchester United VS Rosenborg match, Manchester United was defeated by Rosenborg with a narrow score (1-0). This defeat may be a bad sign for Manchester United. The reason is that against Rosenborg, who are currently ranked 11th in the Norwegian League, Manchester United looks very difficult. So, especially if Manchester United plays in the Premier League, Ten Hag's team will definitely have difficulties, because the competition will definitely be much more difficult. Therefore, my speculation is that Manchester United will perform badly again next season. Even though in this match Manchester United did not field many main players, it is still a clear picture for us that Manchester United has the potential to perform poorly next season. Because in a good team, usually the main players and second tier players will not have too much difference in performance.

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July 16, 2024, 04:36:47 AM

Arne Slot knows Klopp's previous performance and I'm sure he will use the same strategy to keep Liverpool's performance the same as when Klopp was still there.

For me that will be the start of the team, that they continue with the team ideas that Klopp had but with some improvements, whenever there are improvements in a team the best has to be given so that the players remain motivated, of course the new coach has to consider that things can be added or removed from the strategies, the idea is that it works and that they can score goals, make the difference and be at the level, even above the neutral level they had when Klopp was coaching, so far the team is not bad, they have the best players, they have not left, I hope they do not leave either.

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July 16, 2024, 05:51:34 AM

Arne Slot knows Klopp's previous performance and I'm sure he will use the same strategy to keep Liverpool's performance the same as when Klopp was still there.

For me that will be the start of the team, that they continue with the team ideas that Klopp had but with some improvements, whenever there are improvements in a team the best has to be given so that the players remain motivated, of course the new coach has to consider that things can be added or removed from the strategies, the idea is that it works and that they can score goals, make the difference and be at the level, even above the neutral level they had when Klopp was coaching, so far the team is not bad, they have the best players, they have not left, I hope they do not leave either.
Strategies can change due to different coaches ideas, each coach has his own strategy which always requires the club he handles to bring in new players and sell players who are not included in the coach's plans. Arne Slot will try to make changes to the Liverpool squad to improve its performance beyond Jurgen Klopp, but he must overcome the challenges in front of him because the EPL is very competitive. Arne Slot needs to polish the Liverpool squad to perfect any shortcomings that existed during Jurgen Klopp's time when he was still coach, improving performance is really needed to maintain competition in the title race with other strong clubs such as Manchester City and Arsenal.

 
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July 16, 2024, 08:02:32 AM

Erik Ten Hak has two options now for the striker position and the arrival of Joshua Zirkzee will provide competition for Hojlund if he does not play at his best. Why are you so sure that Man United is not a place to develop potential and I think he decided to move to Man United because he wanted to develop his talent to be better. Previously it was true that many players who after joining Man United experienced a decline in performance.

But now everything is a little different because Man United have made big changes and Joshua Zirkzee can play above his current performance if he continues to get a place. I think there will be big changes for Man United next season because they are serious about preparing changes starting from players and management.

This is a football game in which each player proves exactly how they can contribute to a team with enough chance they had to play. Højlund struggled to score constantly last season. Manchester United has signed a new striker who helped Bologna qualify for next season's Champions League. Of course, adding a new striker will produces competition for the two players, and nobody will be happy with the limited playing time. But, if you look at it, in the majority of the matches they played last season, Ten Hags didn't let Hojlund play the whole minute, they normally changed him in the second half, so the competition may be lower than you expect.

Signing Joshua Zirkzee will not change the situation at Manchester United, but I believe everything will be different next season as they work on how to bring in additional players to improve their performance. Let's see what Ten Hag can do next season with these outstanding players.

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Do you guys watch this game? I watched it, and yeah, Ten Hag's team needs time to build their chemistry. The result wasn't bad. But, they were against a mediocre team. It's part of Ten Hag's process of rebuilding his club. And absolutely nothing wrong with this result achieved by Manchester United in this game. The first and youth team squads needed minutes, and that’s all. United played so damn well in the first half, but the second half was boring enough to watch. I can still understand it. This is the first pre-season game, and I shouldn't have big expectations for Manchester United.

Glad to see Ten Hag is trying to give minutes to so many young players of Manchester United. It seems Ten Hag is trying to identify which young player will be able to step up into the main team. I consider this game is about a fitness for all young players of Manchester United. Vitek showed whether he is worthy enough to be considered. He deserved a clean sheet, but he was not lucky enough in that game.

This game is good enough to give cardio to the young players of Manchester United.


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I have believed that Eric Ten Hang will be able to do much better work in Manchester United this season, if he is allowed to strengthen the team. I have believed in him to do much better work than what he did in the last season, but the friendly match that Manchester United played this evening has in one way or the other disappointed me. Manchester United was unable to win a weaker team which is unlike Ten Hang the first season he came to Manchester United. He won all the small and big teams. No matter the fact that it is pre season match, it matters in building the spirit of the team.
I am worried about Manchester United performance in friendly game. They did not play well which is surprising since their coach Eric Ten Hag did great job last season. While preseason games are not always good measure of team strength they help build team spirit and energy. Manchester United struggled against weaker team which raises concerns about their preparedness for new season. Despite this I still have faith in Ten Hag ability to improve team. He has shown he is a good coach and with the right players I think Manchester United can do well this season.
Don't too worried about it because pre season matches results cannot be used as the reference to predict Manchester United performance for next season because usually most of big teams doesn't too serious about friendlies matches and the results is not really matter for them because usually friendly match only used to analysis the weaknesses of the particular teams besides that pre season tour too is good because this is good chances for some of young players to gets the experience and gets more minutes to play

Looking at to Manchester United starting lineup when they lost from Rosenborg it was dominated by young players and at least Ten Hag was played 6 young players on that match so i think this loses is still normal because Manchester United didn't playing with their important players but indeed Ten Hag should be evaluate this result because Manchester United has poor statistics that during this match they only have 45% ball possession and gets 5 total of shots

Next week Manchester United will have their 2nd match of the pre season tour against Rangers and it is confirmed Ten Hag will be more serious to facing this match and he will be targetting win result from this match too but indeed Manchester United still unable to played some of their important players because some of them are still on vacation after defending their national teams at Euro Cup

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July 16, 2024, 08:50:56 AM



Do you guys watch this game? I watched it, and yeah, Ten Hag's team needs time to build their chemistry. The result wasn't bad. But, they were against a mediocre team. It's part of Ten Hag's process of rebuilding his club. And absolutely nothing wrong with this result achieved by Manchester United in this game. The first and youth team squads needed minutes, and that’s all. United played so damn well in the first half, but the second half was boring enough to watch. I can still understand it. This is the first pre-season game, and I shouldn't have big expectations for Manchester United.

Glad to see Ten Hag is trying to give minutes to so many young players of Manchester United. It seems Ten Hag is trying to identify which young player will be able to step up into the main team. I consider this game is about a fitness for all young players of Manchester United. Vitek showed whether he is worthy enough to be considered. He deserved a clean sheet, but he was not lucky enough in that game.

This game is good enough to give cardio to the young players of Manchester United.


Unfortunately I didn't watch it because at first I thought Manchester United would definitely win but it was quite surprising if they lost to Rosenberg. But that's not a problem because these two teams want to test each other's strengths in this pre-season match and whatever the result, it certainly won't have a full impact on the players' mentality.

In fact, everything would be much more organized if all the players were fit before the actual competition started and Erik ten Hag really has to do this so that his players are better prepared for the EPL competition next season. Young players are certainly not out of his sight because if Manchester United is hit by an injury disaster like last season and they don't have many options, then Erik Ten Hag can entrust the job to his young players.
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Arne Slot knows Klopp's previous performance and I'm sure he will use the same strategy to keep Liverpool's performance the same as when Klopp was still there.

For me that will be the start of the team, that they continue with the team ideas that Klopp had but with some improvements, whenever there are improvements in a team the best has to be given so that the players remain motivated, of course the new coach has to consider that things can be added or removed from the strategies, the idea is that it works and that they can score goals, make the difference and be at the level, even above the neutral level they had when Klopp was coaching, so far the team is not bad, they have the best players, they have not left, I hope they do not leave either.

Arne Slot has proven to be quite a quality coach because he has also succeeded in making the club he coached previously get a ticket to the UCL this season and Feyenoord even won the Eredivisie in the 2022-23 season. And I think Liverpool won't need too much time to adapt to their new coach. Because actually the strategies used by Slot and Klopp are similar, namely that they both have strategies that emphasize aggressiveness in attacking and aggressively pressing opponents.

but yeah, a little change is bound to happen because there's definitely a little adjustment going on. But by the way, I haven't seen any aggressive movements from Liverpool in the transfer market.

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Do you guys watch this game? I watched it, and yeah, Ten Hag's team needs time to build their chemistry. The result wasn't bad. But, they were against a mediocre team. It's part of Ten Hag's process of rebuilding his club. And absolutely nothing wrong with this result achieved by Manchester United in this game. The first and youth team squads needed minutes, and that’s all. United played so damn well in the first half, but the second half was boring enough to watch. I can still understand it. This is the first pre-season game, and I shouldn't have big expectations for Manchester United.

Well, to me I see everything wrong with that result. I know preseason games is all about preparation and testing of tactics. it’s not about winning actually but an avenue for clubs to test their tactics and style of play to know which one works better. Unfortunately, Manchester United lost the match and there was no single tactical move displayed by United.

I don’t know what will happen if season starts but Manchester United have no style of play aside passing at the back and long passes with lose possession. Manchester did not only lose this game, they had just a shot on target for the whole of 90 minutes. This is the right time to criticize their poor tactics and not until season starts.











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Well, to me I see everything wrong with that result. I know preseason games is all about preparation and testing of tactics. it’s not about winning actually but an avenue for clubs to test their tactics and style of play to know which one works better. Unfortunately, Manchester United lost the match and there was no single tactical move displayed by United.

I don’t know what will happen if season starts but Manchester United have no style of play aside passing at the back and long passes with lose possession. Manchester did not only lose this game, they had just a shot on target for the whole of 90 minutes. This is the right time to criticize their poor tactics and not until season starts.
Before you start criticizing, look at the lineup Manchester United played. Apart from Rashford and Casemiro, I don’t see who could stand up to Rosenborg. This is a friendly match in which the coach wants to see what the young players are capable of, the result in such matches is of secondary importance. Now, probably after the Euro, the players will receive a short vacation after which preparations for the new season will begin, then it will be possible to evaluate the team’s results.

 
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July 16, 2024, 11:55:06 AM

Arne Slot knows Klopp's previous performance and I'm sure he will use the same strategy to keep Liverpool's performance the same as when Klopp was still there.
For me that will be the start of the team, that they continue with the team ideas that Klopp had but with some improvements, whenever there are improvements in a team the best has to be given so that the players remain motivated, of course the new coach has to consider that things can be added or removed from the strategies, the idea is that it works and that they can score goals, make the difference and be at the level, even above the neutral level they had when Klopp was coaching, so far the team is not bad, they have the best players, they have not left, I hope they do not leave either.
Yes, maybe that could happen by still using some of Klopp ideas or methods in developing the team, but I sure not in its entirety because of course Arne Slot still considers everything and uses what he thinks is right.
It just that playing strategies and game patterns in the use of players and game tactics will definitely change, each coach has his own characteristics in leading the team and in general we will not see Liverpool in the future having the same characteristics as before.
I also completely agree with what you say in relation to context like this, after all, Liverpool during the time under Klopp leadership until Klopp left him was still pretty good team, without lot of mistakes and significant decline in performance.
Arne Slot just needs to continue and change the team strength pattern more easily, of course Arne Slot knows what is best for him to do.

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Do you guys watch this game? I watched it, and yeah, Ten Hag's team needs time to build their chemistry. The result wasn't bad. But, they were against a mediocre team. It's part of Ten Hag's process of rebuilding his club. And absolutely nothing wrong with this result achieved by Manchester United in this game. The first and youth team squads needed minutes, and that’s all. United played so damn well in the first half, but the second half was boring enough to watch. I can still understand it. This is the first pre-season game, and I shouldn't have big expectations for Manchester United.

Glad to see Ten Hag is trying to give minutes to so many young players of Manchester United. It seems Ten Hag is trying to identify which young player will be able to step up into the main team. I consider this game is about a fitness for all young players of Manchester United. Vitek showed whether he is worthy enough to be considered. He deserved a clean sheet, but he was not lucky enough in that game.

This game is good enough to give cardio to the young players of Manchester United.

I'm not even gonna lie, I have big expectations for Manchester United this season, but that can only happen if the management get the defenders lined up to be signed and then a new midfielder, maybe a new defensive midfielder for sqaud depth. Credits should be given to the Manchester United goalkeeper yesterday, he was honestly the best player for Manchester United yesterday. I didn't see the game but saw the highlight. Fans yesterday confessed the young goalkeeper gave them the feeling David De Gea gave them. It's good to see they have such a great quality around and available for selection.

Yeah, they need such games like this to gain confidence and fitness, mind you, they have just trained for a week before the game yesterday. In the coming weeks, names like Scott MC Tominay, Rasmus Hojlund and Christian Erikson would be joining in shortly.

In the new season, I'm expecting more from Mason Mount and for Jadon Sancho to impress the fans after being introduced back Into the squad. As for Mason, I know what he can do, hopefully he gets enough minutes.

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July 16, 2024, 12:14:16 PM

Arne Slot knows Klopp's previous performance and I'm sure he will use the same strategy to keep Liverpool's performance the same as when Klopp was still there.
He won't be too bothered about strategy because the framework that Klopp has currently given is already very good so Slott just needs to continue with it, but in this case we must also be aware that even though the scheme and way of playing will remain the same for Liverpool, there will still be differences in coaches. will provide different things because of course Slot also has its own way of doing coaching. So in this case I still feel that even though the plan will not be much different from what Klopp did previously, of course there will be some slight changes to the slot because this is a certainty where each coach has his own way of managing strategy.

The impact may be that several new players will appear or players who were previously in the line up could be replaced because they do not comply with the plans implemented by the Slot. Even though we still haven't seen any changes that can be said to be significant for Liverpool, I think in the last few weeks before the competition actually starts, we will definitely see several changes made so that Slot is confident in his players who are currently at Liverpool and can successfully bring Liverpool into competition in the EPL.

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Arne Slot knows Klopp's previous performance and I'm sure he will use the same strategy to keep Liverpool's performance the same as when Klopp was still there.

For me that will be the start of the team, that they continue with the team ideas that Klopp had but with some improvements, whenever there are improvements in a team the best has to be given so that the players remain motivated, of course the new coach has to consider that things can be added or removed from the strategies, the idea is that it works and that they can score goals, make the difference and be at the level, even above the neutral level they had when Klopp was coaching, so far the team is not bad, they have the best players, they have not left, I hope they do not leave either.

There will definitely be a rotation in Liverpool. While some players have contributed to the team, some players will be dismissed from the team because they cannot make this contribution. Liverpool has the quality to add good players from the infrastructure to the team. The coach should be able to evaluate this and bring players from the infrastructure to the team. Klopp left a not bad squad and with a few good transfers, they will continue to be one of the important teams on the way to the championship next year.

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July 16, 2024, 12:37:17 PM
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Yeah Arteta just need to improve on the pattern he is using, though there is nothing wrong with his current patterns but since they have been using it for quite a while now but they still have not been able to win the premier League

Yes, Arteta of course just needs to improve Arsenal's performance a little and sometimes I also like to be pity about Arsenal because the opportunity to become champions has certainly been wide open over the last 2 seasons. But of course Arteta has been practice well all this time and has been able to become 2nd place champion for the last 2 seasons, of course that is a good thing because Arsenal has not seen a decline in terms of strength. and at the end of the season Arsenal only had a difference of 2 points with Manchester City.

but of course Arteta must really prepare Arsenal so that they can compete again with strong teams in the EPL and of course Arsenal's tough rivals include Manchester City or Liverpool and of course it will be a shame if Arteta in the coming season fails to bring Arsenal to the championship because of course Arsenal fans already I've been waiting a long time to see Arsenal win a trophy. However, it is not easy for Arsenal to compete with strong EPL teams.

I remember that Arteta was once an assistant coach at Manchester City and of course we will see his technique next season. Of course, with that experience, it is very likely that Arteta can find Manchester City's weaknesses and what I remember is that Arteta's contract with Arsenal is until 2025 and of course we won't know. whether his contract will be extended again or not, but of course the next season will certainly be a valuable opportunity for Arteta to be able to bring Arsenal to a trophy, so we'll see how Arteta makes Arsenal's performance in the coming season whether it will be better than last season. or not.











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Ten hag wants to do his best for Manchester United and out of their own discomfort they will still do a good job and the management have given opportunities to showcase the strategies he his trying to showcase, Manchester only dropped in performance this season. They need good attack and also defense is very important,  Manchester United might actually do well next season because at least Manchester United will always do better. But at some point last season they were unable to show any progress in their club. But we don’t have a choice to wait to see if actually they will improve the new season, there might be changes but no reward for them this season some clubs will still find it hard to win games.
That's all about the football at times they will be a winner and at times they might be losers, this is a right time for the Manchester united to improve up their performance if they really want to be part of those that want to win the league in next coming season. Because the way Manchester end Manchester United end up their performance this season it was very badly, and That's why the club is not moving forward anymore.

Furlthermore, Manchester United might improve the new season but in one condition means if they bring their consistent back into the standard, since the their management putting much of his efforts to make sure the team is always remain in the better squad, they might be the part of winners next season even thought some clubs will find the league difficult to win.

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Do you guys watch this game? I watched it, and yeah, Ten Hag's team needs time to build their chemistry. The result wasn't bad. But, they were against a mediocre team. It's part of Ten Hag's process of rebuilding his club. And absolutely nothing wrong with this result achieved by Manchester United in this game. The first and youth team squads needed minutes, and that’s all. United played so damn well in the first half, but the second half was boring enough to watch. I can still understand it. This is the first pre-season game, and I shouldn't have big expectations for Manchester United.

Glad to see Ten Hag is trying to give minutes to so many young players of Manchester United. It seems Ten Hag is trying to identify which young player will be able to step up into the main team. I consider this game is about a fitness for all young players of Manchester United. Vitek showed whether he is worthy enough to be considered. He deserved a clean sheet, but he was not lucky enough in that game.

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I won't say the team was bad in that friendly game because is like their first test of coming together as one to play and we all know some of the 1st players are on holidays after the tournament they need to rest before starting up another challenges. Ten Heg has been with the club for 3 seasons if I'm not mistaken and Manchester United is not a team of trust the project just like Pochettino do say with the Chelsea team, the fans won't be that pissed yet until the losing start coming here and there especially when the big names of the club are involved. Do you think UTD need time to build up? No I don't think so, why because they don't have it in them to build up, they only have that mentality of getting the result since they are already made and I see ten Heg as a coach they brought in to change their pattern of play not build up from scratch.
Playing the young ones is nothing new and this is the time to let them show all they have got, if they have what it takes to wear the UTD jersey and from how it is they might even forget to buy in new players if the young players are too good.











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Do you guys watch this game? I watched it, and yeah, Ten Hag's team needs time to build their chemistry. The result wasn't bad. But, they were against a mediocre team. It's part of Ten Hag's process of rebuilding his club. And absolutely nothing wrong with this result achieved by Manchester United in this game. The first and youth team squads needed minutes, and that’s all. United played so damn well in the first half, but the second half was boring enough to watch. I can still understand it. This is the first pre-season game, and I shouldn't have big expectations for Manchester United.

Glad to see Ten Hag is trying to give minutes to so many young players of Manchester United. It seems Ten Hag is trying to identify which young player will be able to step up into the main team. I consider this game is about a fitness for all young players of Manchester United. Vitek showed whether he is worthy enough to be considered. He deserved a clean sheet, but he was not lucky enough in that game.

This game is good enough to give cardio to the young players of Manchester United.
Didn't watch the pre-season game for Man United, but this loss still reflects badly on Erik Ten Hag with a lot of mockery on social media because they didn't manage to win with a weak team, although I realize that some of them are young players who are trying out Erik Ten Hag for the first time.

I wouldn't consider Erik Ten Hag bad now because it's too early for the real game to start in the Premier league in mid-August.
Maybe we should think Ten Hag is trying out young players.
But I see the score ratings of some senior players getting low ratings.

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Before you start criticizing, look at the lineup Manchester United played. Apart from Rashford and Casemiro, I don’t see who could stand up to Rosenborg. This is a friendly match in which the coach wants to see what the young players are capable of, the result in such matches is of secondary importance. Now, probably after the Euro, the players will receive a short vacation after which preparations for the new season will begin, then it will be possible to evaluate the team’s results.
Friendly matches are always a special concern for coaches regarding young players and in this match where Erik Ten Hag fielded young players against Rosenborg, the final result was that Manchester United lost with a score of 1-0. So, if you look at it from a game perspective, of course Manchester United young players still seem to have difficulty keeping up with Rosenborg game. For me, this defeat is a big evaluation for Erik ten Hag in the next friendly match because with Manchester United's big name, of course this defeat is very embarrassing, especially since the team they are facing is a weak team.

On the other hand, the transfer market is still ongoing and of course Manchester United management must take advantage of it to recruit several more players to strengthen the squad to be stronger for this season.

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I'm not even gonna lie, I have big expectations for Manchester United this season, but that can only happen if the management get the defenders lined up to be signed and then a new midfielder, maybe a new defensive midfielder for sqaud depth. Credits should be given to the Manchester United goalkeeper yesterday, he was honestly the best player for Manchester United yesterday. I didn't see the game but saw the highlight. Fans yesterday confessed the young goalkeeper gave them the feeling David De Gea gave them. It's good to see they have such a great quality around and available for selection.

It's quite unfortunate that Man United is not really serious in pursuing Amadou Onana and it is very likely that the player will soon join Aston Villa. To be honest, I really hope that Man United can sign the Belgian defensive midfielder because Onana will not only make Man United stronger next season, but the player has the characteristics of a tough water carrier that Man United has not had for a long time. Apart from that, there is another effect if Amadou Onana joins Aston Villa (or another team), which will make Everton even more reluctant to let Jarrad Branthwaite go.

 
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