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Today at 08:22:01 AM |
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Manchester United faced with more conceded goals and two ones are lucky for them. Their performance is made up of attacking, midfield and defense but their defensive performance in the match is bad. Their attacking system looks to be good but it is not enough to cover weakness in defense. Brighton can exploit Manchester United's defense very easily and if they are more luckily, more than two goals can be scored by Brighton.
A late winning goal from Brighton makes this match emotional for both with regret from Manchester United side but Brighton deserve this win. They shown their strength against a big team again. The defense line was still quite problematic in the match so they had to accept defeat. Even Brighton's winning goal came from Man United's poor defense because they did not guard the player who was standing empty in the corner. As far as I have seen in the last five meetings between the two, Man United have only been able to win one match and this is a pretty bad result for Erik Ten Hak. Brighton was able to match Man United's game and I think this is a weak point that needs to be fixed by Erik Ten Hak. If they lose against a team like this, it will be much more difficult when facing other strong teams in other matches.
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Today at 08:30:44 AM |
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Brighton was able to match Man United's game and I think this is a weak point that needs to be fixed by Erik Ten Hak. If they lose against a team like this, it will be much more difficult when facing other strong teams in other matches.
Brighton wasn’t there match in this game, they were there better. Though odds might have put them in a head-to-head situation but somehow, it was expected for Manchester United to under perform with Brighton taking some good advantage of them. Brighton started leading early in the game with Manchester United playing catch-up. Too bad for them they had a VAR disallowed goal as that could have been a major turning point for them but no, Joshua Zirkzee wasn’t going to be allowed to stand. Just when it seemed all was done, in the minutes that mattered and could have earned them a point, they let Joao Pedro catch them off guard.
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Today at 08:52:03 AM |
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I wouldn't say that right away, because bookmakers offered different odds than your 70%/30%.
Brighton & Hove Albion Manchester United 2.83 1.32
Judging by their predictions, the advantage was still given to Manchester United and it was not obvious that Brighton & Hove Albion would win.
Those who bet on Brighton & Hove Albion "played against the market" and made money.
Which bookmakers? I don't believe it. Look at this one, Brighton is actually a slight favorite in moneyline odds, even though it's moneyline, I'm sure it's nothing different with draw no bet where Brighton should be slight favorite too. For me, when the small teams become favorite against big teams, it means the small teams has a high chance to win. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgvb.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F08%2F25%2F8b6d08111eb2950e40143ff22aac962e.png&t=665&c=pHu3auqy2X90pA)
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F08%2F25%2F7lQXo.jpeg&t=665&c=zgd1i0aseK9GYA) Damn, what are you doing? look at how loose the defense is in crucial minutes and I can't say anything more about Manchester United in this match. They are like putting on a circus and the home fans are very happy to see their actions. There were 5 players who focused their attention to stop Simon Adingra and they forgot at least 3 players who were out of his sight. But who would have thought that instead of taking a direct shot he chose to cross towards Joan Pedro and was immediately greeted with his header. Well, a dramatic victory was obtained by Brighton and they deserved it. I also won't blame Onana this time considering the Red Devils' defense was so sloppy. Can't say anything else after seeing Man United slightly disappointing performance. At the beginning of the season I still had positive thoughts about Man United but in fact Man United defense still needs to be improved a little. It's not entirely the fault of the defenders but the performance of the Man United defenders was less focused so that it allowed 3 Brighton players to have empty spaces that were very easy to score. In fact, Man United attack line had a pretty good performance to be able to get a draw but unfortunately this defeat disappointed the bettors and fans. Maguire is one of the defenders who should be reliable but I see him as lacking enthusiasm. Personally, I also imagined that the match between Brighton and Manchester United would be won by Manchester United, but in reality, in this match, Brighton performed well, which of course resulted in them finally winning with a score of 2-1. Yes, Erik ten Hag's defense needs to be improved by Manchester United to make it even better and of course I'm sure Erik ten Hag will definitely be able to make his men perform better in the next match. However, I personally saw that in that match, the attack from the Manchester United players was very good and in fact, if Garnacho scored a goal and was not offside then of course there would be the potential for a draw in the match and of course from my perspective the strength compare between Manchester United and Brighton is certainly not much different. and of course this season is still early and of course Manchester United still has a lot of time to perform better. Of course, many of those who bet on Manchester United's victory will be disappointed, but yes, this is football, of course anything can happen, of course Maguire should be able to play well, but yes, at that time his performance was not good, so of course we'll see what happens in the next match with strength. the strength that Manchester United has.
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Today at 09:32:04 AM |
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I wouldn't say that right away, because bookmakers offered different odds than your 70%/30%.
Brighton & Hove Albion Manchester United 2.83 1.32
Judging by their predictions, the advantage was still given to Manchester United and it was not obvious that Brighton & Hove Albion would win.
Those who bet on Brighton & Hove Albion "played against the market" and made money.
I checked the odds of this match on one of the scores websites so it should not be much different from the bookmakers on the moneyline, in fact BHA is the favorite with 2.30 while Manchester United is 2.88 and it seems that the home factor is an advantage for BHA, that is quite different from the odds you mentioned and I have never found odds that differ much between bookmakers. BHA's victory is not surprising because they are facing a team that looks the same as last season, as evidenced by the first match at home, United could only win narrowly even though they had many opportunities to score goals, so there has been no improvement in the first two games of the season.
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Today at 09:32:58 AM |
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Personally, I also imagined that the match between Brighton and Manchester United would be won by Manchester United, but in reality, in this match, Brighton performed well, which of course resulted in them finally winning with a score of 2-1. Yes, Erik ten Hag's defense needs to be improved by Manchester United to make it even better and of course I'm sure Erik ten Hag will definitely be able to make his men perform better in the next match.
However, I personally saw that in that match, the attack from the Manchester United players was very good and in fact, if Garnacho scored a goal and was not offside then of course there would be the potential for a draw in the match and of course from my perspective the strength compare between Manchester United and Brighton is certainly not much different. and of course this season is still early and of course Manchester United still has a lot of time to perform better.
Of course, many of those who bet on Manchester United's victory will be disappointed, but yes, this is football, of course anything can happen, of course Maguire should be able to play well, but yes, at that time his performance was not good, so of course we'll see what happens in the next match with strength. the strength that Manchester United has.
Garnacho did everything right, it's just that after his shot no one was supposed to touch the ball. I don't think anything unexpected happened in this match. Brighton started the season well, it was clear that they were in great shape, and Manchester United looked too heavy in the match with Fulham. We can say that ten Hag has problems with injuries to his players, but this is more about the attack, but if we evaluate Manchester United, I will say that I do not see that something has changed in the team, and to get a defeat already in the second round is bad, because they are already 3 points behind City and Arsenal, and this is only the second round. I do not believe that ten Hag will be able to stay in the team after this season.
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Today at 09:38:33 AM |
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I don't understand why people are surprised to see Manchester United lose, when I already know Brighton has higher chance to win before the match started. I'd say Brighton has 70% chance to win while Manchester United is only 30%.
The odds movements said it all. Many people were favoring United, and not all of the people were betting when we were closer to the game. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgvb.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F08%2F25%2F17f6be642b4d6a2669fdbfe29d9edcb0.png&t=665&c=MbKIgKXT8tyNDg) Ten Hag should able to draw a conclusion from the results of two matches, which are:
1. Bring back Bruno to it's main position.
2. Zirkzee to play as a starter.
3. Replace Rashford with Garnacho.
4. Sell Antony and Mount.
I do agree with all of your points above, but there would be a reason why Ten Hag didn't put Zirkzee in the starting lineup. It's because he wasn't fit to play full-time against Brighton. He had no pre-season games. This forced Ten Hag to take an alternative plan to put Bruno as a striker. Also, i'm not sure if he is gonna start in the starting lineup in the upcoming game. It may take longer for Ten Hag to be sure he will be fine and not get injured like Hojlund.
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Today at 10:28:26 AM |
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Brighton wasn’t there match in this game, they were there better. Though odds might have put them in a head-to-head situation but somehow, it was expected for Manchester United to under perform with Brighton taking some good advantage of them. Brighton started leading early in the game with Manchester United playing catch-up. Too bad for them they had a VAR disallowed goal as that could have been a major turning point for them but no, Joshua Zirkzee wasn’t going to be allowed to stand. Just when it seemed all was done, in the minutes that mattered and could have earned them a point, they let Joao Pedro catch them off guard.
Manchester United was in a better position to win yesterday because Brighton was good but United could have won, everything that happened was luck for Brighton, and from the look of things Manchester United's defense is still shaking, and Manchester United goalkeeper is still very poor and I thought he would have improved by now an nothing like that for now, even the first goal Brighton scored against united was lame compared to the one that Manchester united scored and if not for the disallowed goal the game would have ended draw or they might be encouraged to score more goals and since they will play again maybe that time Manchester united would have been smarter to know the weakness of Brighton and they will be able to defeat them easily. Chelsea playing against Wolves is just another terrible one for Chelsea, wolves are also good, this will be their second game after they were defeated by Manchester City, and this time around I don't think they will go easy on Wolves.
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Today at 10:40:57 AM |
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I wouldn't say that right away, because bookmakers offered different odds than your 70%/30%.
Brighton & Hove Albion Manchester United 2.83 1.32
Judging by their predictions, the advantage was still given to Manchester United and it was not obvious that Brighton & Hove Albion would win.
Those who bet on Brighton & Hove Albion "played against the market" and made money.
Which bookmakers? I don't believe it. Look at this one, Brighton is actually a slight favorite in moneyline odds, even though it's moneyline, I'm sure it's nothing different with draw no bet where Brighton should be slight favorite too. For me, when the small teams become favorite against big teams, it means the small teams has a high chance to win. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimgvb.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F08%2F25%2F8b6d08111eb2950e40143ff22aac962e.png&t=665&c=pHu3auqy2X90pA) What a shame for Manchester United. they still had bad performance regardless of the time they gave to Ten Hag and regardless of the players they bought for this team. It seems Manchester United needed to make more changes to get improve because Ten Hag is not working for them. Manchester United had definitely better players than Brighton and they had a better team than their competitor for this match but they lost the game with a 2-1 result have a bad start for this season and this can put Manchester United under more pressure.
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What a shame for Manchester United. they still had bad performance regardless of the time they gave to Ten Hag and regardless of the players they bought for this team. It seems Manchester United needed to make more changes to get improve because Ten Hag is not working for them. Manchester United had definitely better players than Brighton and they had a better team than their competitor for this match but they lost the game with a 2-1 result have a bad start for this season and this can put Manchester United under more pressure.
This defeat reveals many problems in Manchester United and with such problems, they won't be able to compete for Premier League title. A more humble target, top four in Premier League can be too much for them in this season. In this match, they used many young players who can be their future but can not do much in this season. With old players like Maguire, Casemiro, their issues are the same like past season, and if Manchester United have to use these players in many matches, let's expect not too good results. Bruno Fernandez came to Manchester United seasons ago but he is like other players, get older with time and soon he will lose his best performances. It's time for another transitional period in Manchester United with many new players and perhaps they will struggle for some more seasons.
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Today at 11:02:05 AM |
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I don't understand why people are surprised to see Manchester United lose, when I already know Brighton has higher chance to win before the match started. I'd say Brighton has 70% chance to win while Manchester United is only 30%.
Ten Hag should able to draw a conclusion from the results of two matches, which are: 1. Bring back Bruno to it's main position. 2. Zirkzee to play as a starter. 3. Replace Rashford with Garnacho. 4. Sell Antony and Mount.
Seriously, I wasn't surprised that Manchester United lost to Brighton because Manchester United always had a difficult time playing with them. Man United did not have a strong record against Brighton, even last season, they defeated Manchester United at Old Trafford 1:3, while Manchester United won the second leg 0:2, so Manchester United's defeat was not surprising because Brighton's had the strength to win the game. However, I'm not sure why Ten Hag is always such a stubborn manager, they already had a new striker to replace Hojlund, but he wanted to start Bruno as a striker, I believe if Bruno played in his main position, their performance would be better than it was yesterday. Chelsea sold a useless player to Manchester United, and they also agreed to buy Mount for £55 million. I don't think the player was worth the money, we all know Antony was doing better on his debut and scoring goals, but Mount has only scored one goal in the Premier League since they bought him. You're right, they need to sell those players as soon as possible.
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Today at 11:19:32 AM |
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Which bookmakers? I don't believe it.
Hmm, I've seen these odds online. Probably, the odds vary between bookmakers, but I don't think these numbers can differ that much. Look at this one, Brighton is actually a slight favorite in moneyline odds, even though it's moneyline, I'm sure it's nothing different with draw no bet where Brighton should be slight favorite too.
True, it looks like the bookmakers have priced Brighton's chances quite highly. For me, when the small teams become favorite against big teams, it means the small teams has a high chance to win.
I am also happy about this, because I am tired of seeing the same teams topping the league spreadsheet. In my opinion, to make the Premier League more interesting to watch, smaller teams should beat the big clubs more often. And I just like to see "David defeat Goliath". ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I checked the odds of this match on one of the scores websites so it should not be much different from the bookmakers on the moneyline, in fact BHA is the favorite with 2.30 while Manchester United is 2.88 and it seems that the home factor is an advantage for BHA, that is quite different from the odds you mentioned and I have never found odds that differ much between bookmakers.
It looks like the odds I listed are wrong, but I did see them online today. I'll probably agree with your version, because you're the 2nd one to say this, and these odds look more plausible.
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Today at 11:21:03 AM |
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What a shame for Manchester United. they still had bad performance regardless of the time they gave to Ten Hag and regardless of the players they bought for this team. It seems Manchester United needed to make more changes to get improve because Ten Hag is not working for them. Manchester United had definitely better players than Brighton and they had a better team than their competitor for this match but they lost the game with a 2-1 result have a bad start for this season and this can put Manchester United under more pressure.
This defeat reveals many problems in Manchester United and with such problems, they won't be able to compete for Premier League title. A more humble target, top four in Premier League can be too much for them in this season. In this match, they used many young players who can be their future but can not do much in this season. With old players like Maguire, Casemiro, their issues are the same like past season, and if Manchester United have to use these players in many matches, let's expect not too good results. Bruno Fernandez came to Manchester United seasons ago but he is like other players, get older with time and soon he will lose his best performances. It's time for another transitional period in Manchester United with many new players and perhaps they will struggle for some more seasons. I never thought Manchester United would challenge for the Premier League title this season. I bet on several matches last season with Manchester United winning. Manchester United disappointed me in most of the matches and I lost my money. We do not see any improvement in the performance of Manchester United this season. Manchester United's performance has been erratic this season as well. Manchester United team won 1-0 against Fulham in the first match. But in the second match we saw the poor performance of Manchester United. Manchester United lost 2-1 against Brighton. We don't see good performances from Manchester United players in Brighton's home matches. Manchester United's performance was poor and as usual they lost. I don't see any improvement in Manchester United's match tactics this season either. Hojlund has been dealing with injuries. ten Hag is using Bruno as a replacement for Hojlund. Bruno is a talented player but he is not a striker, Bruno is a midfielder. So Hojlund could not be a worthy replacement Bruno Fernandes. And this is also one of the main reasons for Manchester United's poor performance.
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Ipswich Town shocked everyone with their early goal, maybe even they didn't think they could take the lead against City, even if they scored, how would they protect the score, there are unique players like Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne in the opposing team. Even though they saw Manchester City score early, they were not shaken by this goal.
Haaland both attention with the goals he scored in two matches, let's see how many goals he will score in the EPL this season. Manchester City punished Ipswich Town's mistakes, City players were able to score goals easily.
The thing l have always admire about this club Manchester city is their ability to actually bounce back from losing position. This is not the first time we have seen this kind of things happening. Other clubs will be distablize with such early. Take Manchester United for instance, once they concede first you will see them immediately getting everything wrong. Pep sets up his team such a way that it takes exceptional clubs to take points off him. You can only do that if you know how to hold on to the ball very well. The goal came too early and I knew that the Ipswich team will be punish because they can’t sustain that energy for the rest of ten matches. Ipswich on the other hand have just been unlucky with the kind of fixtures that have piled up for them, they did well against Liverpool which was another tough opponent and now tried to control the game against Manchester City which is hard to do for the entire league. This will affect them before they start getting points because it could demoralize them from here. That’s why they’re a big team. They have won many points from losing positions over the years in the premier league . That should tell you why they have won the league on four consecutive occasions. They have gotten to the point where they don’t get scared when you score first against them. I knew they would win the game at full time. Ipswich isn’t a team that can surprise Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium. Manchester City can afford to give Rodri, Walker and Foden all time they need to return to full fitness without worrying about dropping points. I think it’s down to the Manager being able to trust back ups like Rico Lewis, even Oscar Bobb.
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I wouldn't say that right away, because bookmakers offered different odds than your 70%/30%.
Brighton & Hove Albion Manchester United 2.83 1.32
Judging by their predictions, the advantage was still given to Manchester United and it was not obvious that Brighton & Hove Albion would win.
Those who bet on Brighton & Hove Albion "played against the market" and made money.
Which bookmakers? I don't believe it. Shitty bookmakers, they favored Manchester United over Brighton even when it was obvious that Brighton has every reason to win the match although i don’t think the odds given to United should be as low as 1.32, the gap shouldn’t be that much even if United was to be favored. Head to head victories Brighton has won more in recent games and look more stable performance wise. Those who didn’t look at the numbers and considered overall team performance were lucky on this one.
About today’s game between Wolves and Chelsea what do you all think? With Chelsea’s performance from pre season games it’s difficult to predict what they can do and the outcome of the match but i am sure it will be an interesting match. It’s an away match for Chelsea so it won’t be an easy game for them but i hope they can at least get their first victory of the season.
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Today at 12:09:55 PM |
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The defense line was still quite problematic in the match so they had to accept defeat. Even Brighton's winning goal came from Man United's poor defense because they did not guard the player who was standing empty in the corner. As far as I have seen in the last five meetings between the two, Man United have only been able to win one match and this is a pretty bad result for Erik Ten Hak.
Brighton was able to match Man United's game and I think this is a weak point that needs to be fixed by Erik Ten Hak. If they lose against a team like this, it will be much more difficult when facing other strong teams in other matches.
Correct. And in essence, when Man United even looks difficult when facing Brighton, I don't think we can expect Man United to win when they face strong teams like Arsenal and Liverpool. I exclude Man city. Because somehow when Man United meets Man City we will see Man United playing quite well. And in the third week Man United must prepare to face one of the strongest teams, namely Liverpool. Maybe in this match Man United benefited from being the host. But I don't want to say that they will be favorites in this match. Unless Liverpool also played just as badly in today's match against Brentford. But I believe today Liverpool will add 3 points back by beating Brentford.
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Today at 12:17:12 PM |
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What a shame for Manchester United. they still had bad performance regardless of the time they gave to Ten Hag and regardless of the players they bought for this team. It seems Manchester United needed to make more changes to get improve because Ten Hag is not working for them. Manchester United had definitely better players than Brighton and they had a better team than their competitor for this match but they lost the game with a 2-1 result have a bad start for this season and this can put Manchester United under more pressure.
Looking at the performance of Man United's management to meet the needs or players expected by Ten Hag, I think they have done it, but looking at the performance or strategy of implementing players, I think he is too selective in choosing the players he supports, why did he play Bruno up front as a striker and Mount in attack, of course this is a ridiculous strategy by benching Garnacho in the first half, of course this is a non-strategic choice from Ten Hag, and especially about Sancho, he put him aside even though he came or joined the team, but he didn't put his name on the bench, even though Rashford's game is declining, why doesn't he give other players a chance? This is wrong, and I don't think there is much time for him if he wants Man United to be able to compete at the top. Ten Hag's performance has not been seen in the EPL and in my opinion the new Liverpool coach slot is better than him, how Liverpool played quite well but Man United has not found a bright spot for a victory, of course this must immediately be considered by Man United's management in the future in reviving this club, a coach who must really have a good track record, I am one of the most disappointed people with the points defeat last night.
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Today at 12:18:41 PM |
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Can Bournemouth stop Newcastle? Because Eddie Howe's squad is still quite dangerous and the previous victory against Southampton will be a capital of more confidence to be able to continue to consistently get points. The attack line will still be led by Antony Gordon and Aleksandar Isak, this will make it difficult for Bournemouth where one is very fast and agile, while the other is quite tall with a finishing that is still dangerous.
However, there is a slight problem with Newcastle's defense line which makes them weak where Fabian Schar got a red card in the previous match and of course Eddie Howe will be quite confused to play his substitute players. But I am sure as long as Newcastle does not produce carelessness and can be productive in this match, Bournemouth is not a serious threat.
Bournemouth cannot be underestimated by Newcastle they want to get 3 points for the first time this season after previously only getting a draw now they will face Newcastle this is a good opportunity to get 3 points especially they have the advantage of playing at home they can take full advantage of but if you look at the head to head both teams have the same chance from their last 5 meetings 3 times ended in a draw the rest were won by both teams so in my opinion a more suitable choice is to bet on a draw another option is to bet on a Bournemouth win ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F08%2F25%2F7xKQz.png&t=665&c=96YGJloF00v13w)
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Today at 12:24:57 PM |
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/// About today’s game between Wolves and Chelsea what do you all think?
With Chelsea’s performance from pre season games it’s difficult to predict what they can do and the outcome of the match but i am sure it will be an interesting match. It’s an away match for Chelsea so it won’t be an easy game for them but i hope they can at least get their first victory of the season.
Both teams lost in the first round: Wolverhampton lost to Arsenal 0-2, and Chelsea was defeated by Manchester City. However, it's important to note that they played against the main title contenders in England. Last season, Wolverhampton beat Chelsea twice, but the Blues showed decent form towards the end of the season. Despite the challenges in Maresca's team, I believe Chelsea is capable of winning this match. My prediction: Chelsea win.
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Today at 12:31:29 PM |
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Wolves vs Chelsea
Wolves XI: Sa; Doherty, Mosquera, Toti, Ait-Nouri; Bellegarde, Lemina, J. Gomes; Cunha, Strand Larsen, Hwang.
Chelsea XI: Sanchez; Gusto, Fofana, Colwill, Cucurella; Lavia, Enzo; Madueke, Palmer, Mudryk; Jackson.
Chelsea are at it again against Wolves for their second game of the season and also their first away game, Chelsea had faced defeat against Manchester City at Stamford Bridge which was so embarrassing, quite right they did their best to play very well. In few minutes they will be playing against Wolves, despite away game I expect them to win because Wolves haven't win against Chelsea in their three meetings and again they had lost their first match to in away match against Arsenal, both Chelsea and Wolves have zero point, so who do you think can add points?
Bournemouth vs Newcastle
Bournemouth XI: Neto; Araujo, Zabarnyi, Senesi, Kerkez; Christie, Cook; Semenyo, Tavernier, Kluivert; Evanilson.
Newcastle XI: Pope; Krafth, Kelly, Burn, Livramento; Guimarães, Longstaff, Joelinton; Murphy, Isak, Gordon.
Newcastle are currently in a good shape to play against Bournemouth despite they are facing defeat against Bournemouth, Bournemouth have already secured one points and Newcastle had three points in their first match, let see if Newcastle will finally be free against Bournemouth
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