[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[HashEngineering]

@HashEngineering, is it possible for the proposed Android "vault" to carry the same address(es) as one's desktop vault?  Or would the Android vault have to have totally new addresses, and one would have to move funds back and forth, depending on which platform one is using at that particular time?

It would be nice if one were on the road with one's phone or tablet to be able to send money, receive money, etc. from one's "main" (desktop) UNO address, and to be able to track that main address' balance, or other addresses in the vault which might be accruing mining revenue.

Would this be possible if one took one's desktop vault backup and were able to "import" it into one's Android UNO vault, thus the two vaults would "mirror" each other and if one made a transaction on the Android and got back to the desktop, you would see it immediately on the desktop?  (And, of course, vice versa?)

It will not be possible for the Android app to carry the same addresses as the desktop wallet.  First, the app will be forked from Bitcoin Wallet by Andreas Schildbach and he doesn't support the idea of having the same addresses in two different software programs.  Part of the reason is a security concern, which has to do with transferring private keys from one to the other, which is considered unsafe.  While I don't disagree with him, even if I did, it would be very difficult to implement.  The android app will be an HD wallet (BIP32), but I am not sure if the desktop client supports BIP32.  As a result, it would be necessary to move funds back and forth using standard transactions (which is the safest way to do it).

For your on the road example, that might be best accomplished by an online wallet.  Since the desktop wallet is standalone and the android app is stand alone, then there is no means to synchronizing the addresses.  It's possible to add a watch feature, where certain addresses would be added to the android wallet to watch balances.  Such a feature would take a long time to program and debug.

The desktop wallet and the android wallet use different wallet formats, so it is not possible to import from one to the other (such an action would not be safe considering that the wallet files may not be encrypted).  Now, if both were BIP32 (HD Wallets) and they both had the same seed value, then perhaps they could be synced, but currently neither wallet has an import or export feature for the seed value (from what I have seen).

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[Jelks]

It will not be possible for the Android app to carry the same addresses as the desktop wallet.  First, the app will be forked from Bitcoin Wallet by Andreas Schildbach and he doesn't support the idea of having the same addresses in two different software programs.  Part of the reason is a security concern, which has to do with transferring private keys from one to the other, which is considered unsafe.  While I don't disagree with him, even if I did, it would be very difficult to implement.  The android app will be an HD wallet (BIP32), but I am not sure if the desktop client supports BIP32.  As a result, it would be necessary to move funds back and forth using standard transactions (which is the safest way to do it).

For your on the road example, that might be best accomplished by an online wallet.  Since the desktop wallet is standalone and the android app is stand alone, then there is no means to synchronizing the addresses.  It's possible to add a watch feature, where certain addresses would be added to the android wallet to watch balances.  Such a feature would take a long time to program and debug.

The desktop wallet and the android wallet use different wallet formats, so it is not possible to import from one to the other (such an action would not be safe considering that the wallet files may not be encrypted).  Now, if both were BIP32 (HD Wallets) and they both had the same seed value, then perhaps they could be synced, but currently neither wallet has an import or export feature for the seed value (from what I have seen).

Thank you.  I sort of thought that would be the case, as I hadn't seen this implemented, and I figured it probably was due to security reasons.

Barring that, does anyone know of a web site that can "track" the balances of just UNO addresses uA, uB and uC (for desktop vaults -- we'll call that "Group A"), and then separately, addresses uX, uY and uZ (for mobile vaults -- we'll call this "Group B")?  Sort of like the "Rich List", but listing by specific addresses one can add to (or delete from) the list?

Anyway, @HashEngineering -- I'm really stoked about what you're doing!!!  Thank you for wanting to bring us an honest-to-goodness Android UNO wallet!

[BitcoinCharlie]

@jelks sounds like a new business opportunity! 

[IMZ]

I sure have been thinking of Uno's recent price-dip as an anomaly. Bitcoin-under-$300, we've been telling people, is a 'second acquisition period.'

Well, ditto with Uno; and I am scrabbling to buy as much Uno as I can afford at present (some of it for a Un-Ex programme -- details to follow).

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[Zelig]

Warning on the Unobtanium Blockchain Explorer;

Warning: This version is obsolete, upgrade required!

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/

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[Gekko463]

The /r/ dogecoin Giveaway is now officially over.

For anyone interested, the Magic Words were:

Rare (Paid)

Fair (Paid)

Precious

Vampire

Turtle

Stable

"safe haven"

roadshow

bus (Paid)

longterm

community

I used each of the words at least one time in my responses.

Thanks to everyone who participated.

[Jelks]

The /r/ dogecoin Giveaway is now officially over.

For anyone interested, the Magic Words were:

Rare (Paid)

Fair (Paid)

Precious

Vampire

Turtle

Stable

"safe haven"

roadshow

bus (Paid)

longterm

community

I used each of the words at least one time in my responses.

Thanks to everyone who participated.

LOL, "Vampire" -- you had to have that in there, didn't you?  In retrospect, that's like a total "duh moment"!

+1 on all of them, especially "Turtle".

Thank you.  I've read reddit threads a number of times before coming from Google searches, but I had never signed up.  I tried to, right before I had to go out of town and didn't have any luck, didn't have the time before leaving to try and "fix" it.  Been running since, checking in here when I could.  But I think you did all of us real good.  It's the little things, one by one.  And the fact that we got some hate along the way means we got noticed. 

[Baars]

Looks like bter is working again https://bter.com/article/4760

[IMZ]

Interesting to see XRP/UNO and Doge/Uno volume in the last couple of days.

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[IMZ]

Trade 87: will sell 10 Uno for .112 Btc

Tee hee . . . let's re-launch that one: Trade 89: will sell 10 Uno for .112 Btc

Project Hoover is back ('cause Uno's price has levelled out). The size of the 'packets' will increase in coming months.

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[Gekko463]

Trade 87: will sell 10 Uno for .112 Btc

Project Hoover is back ('cause Uno's price has levelled out). The size of the 'packets' will increase in coming months.

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Community Announcement:

I have learned this week that participation in "UN-Ex" and it's "Trusted Trader" program relies not on your integrity, nor does it rely upon your financial solvency.

It simply relies on whether IMZ likes you or not.

And that is more than a flaw.

It is outright fraud.

Details?  PM me for copies of IMZ's communications with me.

[FallingKnife]

While integrity and solvency are important and considered with Un-Ex, trust remains the most important n-factor.  It probably has less to do with whether IMZ likes you, and more to do with whether he is assured that the Un-Ex community goals & interests are supported.

I am far from being the most trusted trader on Un-Ex, and I am not as active as I should be, but I understand that Un-ex operates on a long term perspective. Bitcointalk is littered with the remains of short-term coins that embody neither trust nor community.  So give it a little time.

When I started this thread, I experienced trust issues. It took months and some trials/tribulations for this community to eventually gamble their trust on me. I imagine that is still the situation today.

I enjoy having you in the community, Gekko. There's always something interesting to talk about when you're around.  I appreciate the good things you've done.

[FallingKnife]

Message From Bryce:

"Just thinking out loud... If you want to have the community work on branding that would be great.

There are two or three logo variations in circulation.

We should pick one and make that our brand. We can use this wallet launch to drive it home. "

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We have the legacy Black and Blue Uno logos from 2013, and we have Learminer's 2014 yellow logo that is on the unobtanium.uno website.  We have a wide assortment of swirly cool logos from Prominer.  Only one can make it into the wallet. 

Which logo should appear on the 2015 Uno wallet?

[Gekko463]

The Avater people were blue.  Blue is the oldest one.  Blue is what banks and investment houses use because it is calming and strong.

Blue legacy is my vote.

[anotherlateminer]

I like the black one.

[devlin85]

Is there a newer windows wallet than 0.9.5? My unobtaniumd is reporting that it is outdated to my p2pool setup.. http://p2pool.coin-node.com:21003

[cryptapus]

FYI, I will be taking down my UNO services in a bit to update my node to v0.10. It should take a while, I will need to re-index my chain for some of my services to function correctly. Bets to the dice games will be honored, but may be late to process.

[Blakesss]

Shout out to cryptrader.com. This coin charting site is great. https://cryptrader.com/charts/cryptsy/uno/btc

[cryptapus]

FYI, I will be taking down my UNO services in a bit to update my node to v0.10. It should take a while, I will need to re-index my chain for some of my services to function correctly. Bets to the dice games will be honored, but may be late to process.

done, went quicker than I thought.

[IMZ]

Shout out to cryptrader.com. This coin charting site is great. https://cryptrader.com/charts/cryptsy/uno/btc

+1 Thanks, Rojan.

The blue!

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