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[Blowon]

In my opinion, it's not about marketing, They must be focused on what they were developed. If they were gambling, just focused on that, so if a token, just focused on that. It's very difficult to develop both especially lack of human sources and capability, even more, if 1 person takes care of tokens and gambling together at 1 time, except if the gambling site is already popular and has many registered people, it should be can be done simultaneously if the token is also used for payment.

I do agree that it should be more than one person, but they had staff working for them long before the token started. Which means that they have people who could help them and yes, it is confusing to do marketing in crypto world because there are a million people dm'ing you about a potential of marketing chance, and 99% of them are fake, but the real ones will make you rich and big, that’s what matters, and if you can't find them then you could find consultants who could work for you and know the real ones already.

Betfury has the money for all of this, how do I know it? First of all the bankroll, secondly all the tokens they have sold so far that made them a lot of funding as well.

if this looks very clear , and also makes sense as you say , so you mean is it better to just focus on one side only ? like if only tokens are enough to focus there, here it is a little deviated because there will be people who like these 2 things playing and monitoring tokens

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[babygun]

Did anyone else had some luck in the Funfury competitions recently? I managed to get in the top 300 twice the last couple of weeks. Highest spot I was able to claim was nr 33. The reward is not so high, but it is always fun to win a prize (and you get your price in USDT + BFG tokens which is nice).

[Bttzed03]

Just a caution to every player not to withdraw BTC using the native chain for now. Even though I chose the slow option which deducts BTC0.000075 withdrawal fee, I still expected it to be done within the next two hours because I've seen blocks confirmed with fee as low as 2 sats/vbyte and not 23 hours. I later found out that they send by batch and that's probably the main reason why it took that long.

I know it says 'within 24 hours' for slow withdrawal but I still think it's poor service given the fact that the network isn't that congested.

[delfastTions]

Just a caution to every player not to withdraw BTC using the native chain for now. Even though I chose the slow option which deducts BTC0.000075 withdrawal fee, I still expected it to be done within the next two hours because I've seen blocks confirmed with fee as low as 2 sats/vbyte and not 23 hours. I later found out that they send by batch and that's probably the main reason why it took that long.

I know it says 'within 24 hours' for slow withdrawal but I still think it's poor service given the fact that the network isn't that congested.

This is just one of the unpleasant properties of the blockchain - when it is difficult to understand how long it will take to confirm a transaction. 
Of course, you always want to save money by paying as little commission as possible, but waiting for "24 hours" is also unpleasant.  And it also happens that a small commission set manually will be taken from you at all, and the transaction will not be confirmed.  I remember once in my Ethereum blockchain on a smart contract a transaction with a commission of ~$55 did not go through. 
 It was very disgusting and insulting to lose this money. 

But I will not advise you to set the average or high level of payment for the transaction.  Here everyone decides for himself

[AbuBhakar]

Just a caution to every player not to withdraw BTC using the native chain for now. Even though I chose the slow option which deducts BTC0.000075 withdrawal fee, I still expected it to be done within the next two hours because I've seen blocks confirmed with fee as low as 2 sats/vbyte and not 23 hours. I later found out that they send by batch and that's probably the main reason why it took that long.

I know it says 'within 24 hours' for slow withdrawal but I still think it's poor service given the fact that the network isn't that congested.

I experienced worst than that on when choosing the slow option on transaction speed. It can took more than 24hrs even if the network is not congested so I definitely don’t recommend that option even in the future because the confirmation for that fee is very slow than normal and you might be in stress if you really need that money while its still stuck on pending status.

BSC chain Bitcoin is less hassle compared to native chain if you are betting using Bitcoin because the normal fee on Bitcoin withdrawal is a bit high than normal fee on electrum wallet.

[arwin100]

Just a caution to every player not to withdraw BTC using the native chain for now. Even though I chose the slow option which deducts BTC0.000075 withdrawal fee, I still expected it to be done within the next two hours because I've seen blocks confirmed with fee as low as 2 sats/vbyte and not 23 hours. I later found out that they send by batch and that's probably the main reason why it took that long.

I know it says 'within 24 hours' for slow withdrawal but I still think it's poor service given the fact that the network isn't that congested.

I experienced worst than that on when choosing the slow option on transaction speed. It can took more than 24hrs even if the network is not congested so I definitely don’t recommend that option even in the future because the confirmation for that fee is very slow than normal and you might be in stress if you really need that money while its still stuck on pending status.

Not recommended for people who are in rush since for sure it will take 24 hours or more before you can receive the amount you transact and what worse is sometimes you feel stress and seek for accelerators which you believe to help your transaction to fasten up. Better to use always what network recommends since this is more the safest and fastest way for us to have smooth transaction on timely manner.

[babygun]

Not recommended for people who are in rush since for sure it will take 24 hours or more before you can receive the amount you transact and what worse is sometimes you feel stress and seek for accelerators which you believe to help your transaction to fasten up. Better to use always what network recommends since this is more the safest and fastest way for us to have smooth transaction on timely manner.

I always choose the slow withdrawal as I don't mind if it arrives in 2h or 24h. But since they introduced the BSC chain to withdraw BTC and ETH, I always use this. Fees are a lot lower and the transactions go a lot faster, so it is a win/win!

[Slow death]

Investors always seek for the platforms performance before pouring some money on their tokens created this is why Betfury needs to perform well and offer more unique utilities to their tokens which didn't been offered yet by their competitors. Also they need to conduct more promotion with extended efforts on other marketing stuff since for sure they will get the best result out of it.

New unique features and utilities are a good thing for any project because it almost always has a positive effect on the price of the token. However, in the case of BFG, it seems that the Betfury team has run out of ideas about the further development of the BFG token. At least I can't explain in any other way their decision to stretch the BFG mining for 53 months.

about the part of them looking like they've run out of ideas. this was already expected to happen, we are talking about a casino, even if they have an altcoin and some features that other casinos don't have they are still a casino that has to follow other casinos, they will not offer more things than other casinos for a long time time because it could reduce their profit, they will offer the same things other casinos are offering. I hope people aren't buying BFG thinking that every year the price will go up a lot because the casino every year will have a lot of customers, with so many casinos popping up every day, the competition is tougher every day, and people are more worried about being in the casinos that have the biggest bonus and the biggest benefits in the VIP accounts, and if BetFury.io doesn't have many customers, then the BFG could suffer a price drop not to mention that the BFG can also be affected if bitcoin drops too much.

In my opinion, it's not about marketing, They must be focused on what they were developed. If they were gambling, just focused on that, so if a token, just focused on that. It's very difficult to develop both especially lack of human sources and capability, even more, if 1 person takes care of tokens and gambling together at 1 time, except if the gambling site is already popular and has many registered people, it should be can be done simultaneously if the token is also used for payment.

Betfury is already a stable casino and there token has a consistent market volume so there’s nothing big needed to improve since they already overcome the initial phased which involves a lot of development. They are now in the stage on selling there product in the public which is there casino and tokens. You are right that they need to focus on one goal and it should be the casino itself because the value of the token depends on the casino profitability and popularity. The more user use the casino means more token buyer will be converted.

Getting a lot of customers to use the casino will be the most complicated and difficult part every day because of the high competition that this online casino market is facing every day, every day new casinos are appearing and in my opinion this market is becoming saturated, and another thing is that BFG is not listed on many exchanges which means that it is not yet known what the real price will be, when an altcoin is listed on many exchanges we can see its real price

[Unsoldier]

I hope the price of BFG will go up after the community vote. But I think these measures will not lead to big changes. There is already too much circulated supply of token on the crypto market.

If we check the chart for the last few days, we will see that the BFG token has already grown by about 8-10%, and the daily trading volumes have even grown up to $420k. Obviously, the current BFG price is because of the community vote, but it doesn't look impressive at all. I note that the Betfury team mentioned in the article that increasing the BFG mining price should have a positive impact on BFG price, but it seems to me that many users expect something more rather than a 10% increase.

But today trading volume decreased by more than 30% it's unfortunately that good news regarding a token will only have a temporary impact and everything will return to normal, with trading volume still low BFG will have a hard time rising unless there is a group that wants to pump it but what is certain is that this only benefits the group

I think it would be nice if Betfury raised the rewards for staking. Betfury can also create events with increased staking rewards for a short period of time for new users. For example 320% APR for two weeks.

Why increase the staking rewards for the new users only? If they want to increase the staking rewards, the priority should be given to those who already have BFG tokens and are staking them already. The staking rewards should be equal for everyone.
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I wrote that staking rewards should be increased for all. And for newbies to make promo to attract their attention. Staking rewards will be the same for everyone after the end of the promo.

[iv4n]

Not recommended for people who are in rush since for sure it will take 24 hours or more before you can receive the amount you transact and what worse is sometimes you feel stress and seek for accelerators which you believe to help your transaction to fasten up. Better to use always what network recommends since this is more the safest and fastest way for us to have smooth transaction on timely manner.

I always choose the slow withdrawal as I don't mind if it arrives in 2h or 24h. But since they introduced the BSC chain to withdraw BTC and ETH, I always use this. Fees are a lot lower and the transactions go a lot faster, so it is a win/win!

I also always use slow withdrawal when I move BTC! I don't mind waiting... if I wish faster I simply go with BSC! Tron was the great alternative... but when the BSC chain appeared it was even better! I always point out how "fast and cheap" is important for people who really like to gamble (of course, not only for that...) and move funds from casinos to wallets, or between casinos! I decided to not use Ethereum, and all ETH tokens, ever again because of the high fees from the last years...

[dwyane36]

I decided to not use Ethereum, and all ETH tokens, ever again because of the high fees from the last years...

I agree with you, and I think most other players also don't use ETH and erc-20 tokens for gambling. The problem is that the fee in the ETH network is too unpredictable, given that it might be either 5 gwei or 1000+ gwei throughout the day. By the way, I just now noticed that Betfury sets 0.005 ETH(~$9) as the ETH withdrawal fee, while the withdrawal fee for erc-20 tokens is $3.2. As for me, this is a strange decision by the Betfury team as the withdrawal fee for ETH is clearly overstated, while the withdrawal fee for erc-20 tokens is understated.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't fully agree. What is the real benefit of getting listed on small exchanges with a very low volume? If you have a token that you want to get listed, you always need to aim high and try to get listed on the places with a high amount of volume.

There is no benefit from listing on small exchanges. As an example, the BFG token is already traded on smaller centralized exchanges such as hotbit, cointiger, and coinsbit. The problem is that listing on these exchanges turned out to be absolutely useless because there is minimal activity and no liquidity. However, even if the BFG is someday added to one of the top exchanges, it won't guarantee a huge volume. I mean, the developers' actions are also crucial since it depends first of all on them whether there will be an increased demand for the token or not.

I couldn't agree more with you, if low volume exchanges are what you are looking for, it will be a total failure, and it would be a shame because many years ago a project that was only one currency failed for these simple reasons:

1.-They did not put the currency in an Exchange 1A.
2.-They did not pay attention to the community.

That was enough for all the investors to not support their project anymore, they left, they made a big Dump and took the coin from 20USD to almost 2USD and currently it is less than 1usd, it was something really sad, I hope and I hope you can listen to the community and they can try to put the token in a good exchange, I think the casino has a way to do it, they cannot say NO to success, and for me so far the casino has been very successful and they have done things well, of course until now, I think it's time to jump into something much better.

Not recommended for people who are in rush since for sure it will take 24 hours or more before you can receive the amount you transact and what worse is sometimes you feel stress and seek for accelerators which you believe to help your transaction to fasten up. Better to use always what network recommends since this is more the safest and fastest way for us to have smooth transaction on timely manner.

I always choose the slow withdrawal as I don't mind if it arrives in 2h or 24h. But since they introduced the BSC chain to withdraw BTC and ETH, I always use this. Fees are a lot lower and the transactions go a lot faster, so it is a win/win!

I also always use slow withdrawal when I move BTC! I don't mind waiting... if I wish faster I simply go with BSC! Tron was the great alternative... but when the BSC chain appeared it was even better! I always point out how "fast and cheap" is important for people who really like to gamble (of course, not only for that...) and move funds from casinos to wallets, or between casinos! I decided to not use Ethereum, and all ETH tokens, ever again because of the high fees from the last years...

Well, the truth is that I have never used the BSC chain, but I imagine that it is very fast, recently I used the normal chain of the Bitcoin network and the transfer lasted 4 hours, which seemed a bit slow to me, I am not used to it lasting so much, but really when I use the ERC-20 network it is because I really need to do something urgently, because it seems to me that the fees are very high, and currently they are not so high, but about 1 year ago, year and means that I needed to make a transfer of ERC-20 to Binance, that was a very exaggerated fee, I did not find a way to do it with less money, I did the same way, but I try to avoid that ERC-20 chain, the Betfury tokens or any currency that you have in Betfury, I consider that it is the normal rate that they should charge, they cannot assume such a high fee.

[FanEagle]

There is no benefit from listing on small exchanges. As an example, the BFG token is already traded on smaller centralized exchanges such as hotbit, cointiger, and coinsbit. The problem is that listing on these exchanges turned out to be absolutely useless because there is minimal activity and no liquidity. However, even if the BFG is someday added to one of the top exchanges, it won't guarantee a huge volume. I mean, the developers' actions are also crucial since it depends first of all on them whether there will be an increased demand for the token or not.

I couldn't agree more with you, if low volume exchanges are what you are looking for, it will be a total failure, and it would be a shame because many years ago a project that was only one currency failed for these simple reasons:

1.-They did not put the currency in an Exchange 1A.
2.-They did not pay attention to the community.

That was enough for all the investors to not support their project anymore, they left, they made a big Dump and took the coin from 20USD to almost 2USD and currently it is less than 1usd, it was something really sad, I hope and I hope you can listen to the community and they can try to put the token in a good exchange, I think the casino has a way to do it, they cannot say NO to success, and for me so far the casino has been very successful and they have done things well, of course until now, I think it's time to jump into something much better.

Low volume exchanges are a way to die actually. Because it means that in the long run you are going to be upset with the results. Low volume equals to low liquidity, and low liquidity means more manipulation. So, someone with a bit of money could come in and destroy the whole token.

We wouldn't want that, it would be smarter to just pick a big one and go with that, or at the very least, stay with the swaps like pancake so that you would have a lot more people focusing it on just one place. That way it would be hard to manipulate it, not impossible but at the very least they would have to go against the full power of betfury community and that’s something they rather wouldn't do.

[Fredomago]

Low volume exchanges are a way to die actually. Because it means that in the long run you are going to be upset with the results. Low volume equals to low liquidity, and low liquidity means more manipulation. So, someone with a bit of money could come in and destroy the whole token.

We wouldn't want that, it would be smarter to just pick a big one and go with that, or at the very least, stay with the swaps like pancake so that you would have a lot more people focusing it on just one place. That way it would be hard to manipulate it, not impossible but at the very least they would have to go against the full power of betfury community and that’s something they rather wouldn't do.

In somehow it's true but we can't remove the fact that whales are whales, they can still do things that they will be wanting but I like your point, it would be more pressure to them if they will do it against the full power of the community, they can't just outrun the influence of real investors and supporters who are willing to play against them.

As long as the team is doing their part in terms of keeping the ecosystem alive and they are doing business for the gamblers, the chance
remain positive for BFG.

[Chikito]

In my opinion, it's not about marketing, They must be focused on what they were developed. If they were gambling, just focused on that, so if a token, just focused on that. It's very difficult to develop both especially lack of human sources and capability, even more, if 1 person takes care of tokens and gambling together at 1 time, except if the gambling site is already popular and has many registered people, it should be can be done simultaneously if the token is also used for payment.

Betfury is already a stable casino and there token has a consistent market volume so there’s nothing big needed to improve since they already overcome the initial phased which involves a lot of development. They are now in the stage on selling there product in the public which is there casino and tokens. You are right that they need to focus on one goal and it should be the casino itself because the value of the token depends on the casino profitability and popularity. The more user use the casino means more token buyer will be converted.

Getting a lot of customers to use the casino will be the most complicated and difficult part every day because of the high competition that this online casino market is facing every day, every day new casinos are appearing and in my opinion this market is becoming saturated, and another thing is that BFG is not listed on many exchanges which means that it is not yet known what the real price will be, when an altcoin is listed on many exchanges we can see its real price

We've seen many casinos got fail because sell both together, something must be sacrificed between them. but, as I know, several casinos do it together with success, like giving free the token for purposes try the casino, but of course, they will make dump a price but besides that, the casino will be crowded. If can't do that, choose one.

[Coin_trader]

We've seen many casinos got fail because sell both together, something must be sacrificed between them. but, as I know, several casinos do it together with success, like giving free the token for purposes try the casino, but of course, they will make dump a price but besides that, the casino will be crowded. If can't do that, choose one.

Those casino failed with this kind of feature are those who has insufficient funds to continue the operation with minimal profit. This is the reason why big casino company don’t want token because they are backed already by private investors and having there token will just make there business more complicated because they need to reward those token holders in exchange for there investment in tokens.

Only few casino manage to survive on this business and some of them choose to exit after getting funds on initial token sale rather than continuing the casino with fixed monthly expenses without assurance that they will get more customers.

[tygeade]

Getting a lot of customers to use the casino will be the most complicated and difficult part every day because of the high competition that this online casino market is facing every day, every day new casinos are appearing and in my opinion this market is becoming saturated, and another thing is that BFG is not listed on many exchanges which means that it is not yet known what the real price will be, when an altcoin is listed on many exchanges we can see its real price

We've seen many casinos got fail because sell both together, something must be sacrificed between them. but, as I know, several casinos do it together with success, like giving free the token for purposes try the casino, but of course, they will make dump a price but besides that, the casino will be crowded. If can't do that, choose one.

I would say that as a casino you should have some fiat currency or stablecoins at least in your hands anyway. If you don't, then there needs to be a situation where you need to fix that asap. I personally believe that the best thing to do here would be making sure that we do not end up with a bad result, it is not the greatest thing ever to have no stablecoins, but if casino has it then that's a great way to distribute.

What can be done is free bets, do that with good amount of money to a lot of people and they are going to come in here and gamble, if they do that then we are going to end up with a big profit as well. That's the key to success for a casino, pay them with real money, not a token you just created.

[Captain Corporate]

Using the bankroll of a casino that should be normally there to support any winners, and basically a guarantee of sorts that you could play here, for marketing or any other thing to grow is not really a great idea. I also do not think that casinos should be doing it themselves at all, it sounds like a lot of work and with so much they have to deal with, I do not think that it would be a smart way to handle. Best thing is to focus on what you are doing and leave the marketing to an agency of sort, that way that agency would be able to make you more famous while you focus on the casino part of the deal. Not a bad idea at all.

[danadc]

Using the bankroll of a casino that should be normally there to support any winners, and basically a guarantee of sorts that you could play here, for marketing or any other thing to grow is not really a great idea. I also do not think that casinos should be doing it themselves at all, it sounds like a lot of work and with so much they have to deal with, I do not think that it would be a smart way to handle. Best thing is to focus on what you are doing and leave the marketing to an agency of sort, that way that agency would be able to make you more famous while you focus on the casino part of the deal. Not a bad idea at all.

There are many who are in charge of doing great marketing, and for this type of casino it does not cost them much to allocate money to those expenses that are an investment, but I do not know, many of us agree with what you say, but casino owners can think differently.

It is better to spend good money on everything with a very strong marketing campaign that results are seen in a short time than to do things to save a few dollars and the community is not satisfied, the casino has to see that.

[coinerer]

Using the bankroll of a casino that should be normally there to support any winners, and basically a guarantee of sorts that you could play here, for marketing or any other thing to grow is not really a great idea. I also do not think that casinos should be doing it themselves at all, it sounds like a lot of work and with so much they have to deal with, I do not think that it would be a smart way to handle. Best thing is to focus on what you are doing and leave the marketing to an agency of sort, that way that agency would be able to make you more famous while you focus on the casino part of the deal. Not a bad idea at all.

There are many who are in charge of doing great marketing, and for this type of casino it does not cost them much to allocate money to those expenses that are an investment, but I do not know, many of us agree with what you say, but casino owners can think differently.

It is better to spend good money on everything with a very strong marketing campaign that results are seen in a short time than to do things to save a few dollars and the community is not satisfied, the casino has to see that.

The knowledge of a gambling site creator and the knowledge of a layman are not the same. They always think something more advanced than what we think. They try to choose the best platforms for marketing.  And they don't treat this forum as the only good marketing platform. and they spend money on the better place