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[Csmiami]

maybe we can get in summary what exactly the problem is and why not paid out the winnings?
in summary.

So far, the user is claiming that their account was frozen and closed after being asked to go trough KYC; and betnomi is presenting some evidence of this user having used multiple accounts to bypass the limits; something that goes against the rules.

It's still going on, so if you have some spare time, give it some read

[betnomi]

Personally i am done with betnomi.

My account had 10 euros limits from the beginning, OP tried a lot to help and my limits increased to normal 100-200 euros but next day my account had 10 euro limits again. This happened 4-5 times. OP helped to increase limits only to being limited the next day.

Yet they paid my balance with no problems.

Yes, system was placing/ restricting your limit because you were categorized as doing Arbitrage Betting. Even after a reset, the system forces your limit back to a smaller limit.
We did not determine you had multiple accounts on our website therefore, you had no problems with your withdrawals or account.

[justdimin]

regarding deposit, withdrawal, and transaction fees, we are really taking this feedback seriously. We understand the excitement can be lost when deposits are taking forever to confirm.
Originally intended to use a short cut to solve this problem by implementing our own nodes to make the process a little faster which could take a week or two to set up but after further analysis, we determined the associated risk and improvements not worth it.

There is not really that many methods you can use to make transactions faster or cheaper, sure you can go with lightning network if you want but not many people use it so it wouldn't really be that easy to implement it and get wide spread use.

When bitcoin blockchain (and ethereum and few others) are so clogged that you have to wait even after paying 10+ dollars per transaction (depends on your size) it would mean that you have to wait no matter what and website can't do anything about it at all. What you can however change could be amount of altcoins, you could add ton of altcoins which would at least give people the option to use them for paying a lot less fees and would be a lot faster, but bitcoin is bitcoin so when you add alts you have to add a lot of them to appeal to everyone.

[TedMosby]

Sign up button doesn't work, I tried with 3 different browsers. Sign in button also freeze when loading.

The sign up button is working in my end.

Please double check your internet connection, that might be the cause of the problem.

Press submit and you will see yourself. It freezes.

My internet connection is fine.

Yeah sometimes it happened to me too when I used my tablet or when I had bad internet connection, you just need to wait until it loaded 100%.


Regarding the deposit/withdrawal method, I will be glad if you consider to use USDT TRC20 for cheaper, faster, and stable transactions.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~
Regarding the deposit/withdrawal method, I will be glad if you consider to use USDT TRC20 for cheaper, faster, and stable transactions.

^ I still prefer using bitcoin in my withdrawal since the network as of now was not busy at all. If you are a regular gambler, withdrawal is not in your mind than the deposit. However, I like the betnomi team sid that they will implement their own nodes but I am not sure if they will continue this feature since they stated that this not have a good effect. Nevertheless, regarding the claim above, if you will gamble fairly, your account is fine, there is no need to act as an innocent.

[Japinat]

Let's the follow the scam accusation thread and put all evidence we have if we have one, or support betnomi if you think they are doing the right thing based on the fair judgement. This thread should not be mix with spam scam accusations, let's be patient, the investigation is still on going and let the DT decide based on evidence laid by both parties. I'm not affiliated but I just hate to see a thread that would result to a scam accusation thread instead of seeing their promotions and other positive news.

Nevertheless, regarding the claim above, if you will gamble fairly, your account is fine, there is no need to act as an innocent.

Agree, but there are still discussions after that, which we can see in the scam accusation thread.

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[notblox1]

Agree, but there are still discussions after that, which we can see in the scam accusation thread.

Interesting scam accusation and Betnomi decision to close it and stop discussion.
Being transparent and honest is important when you run casino and sports betting business.
I will follow what happens and I will post my own experience dealing with Betnomi in next few days.

[Japinat]

Agree, but there are still discussions after that, which we can see in the scam accusation thread.

Interesting scam accusation and Betnomi decision to close it and stop discussion.
Being transparent and honest is important when you run casino and sports betting business.
I will follow what happens and I will post my own experience dealing with Betnomi in next few days.

That's good, following the thread and I like Betnomi that they continue to respond, there are two sides here, we should carefully evaluate both sides and decide based on the facts presented, I'm glad also that Betnomi still continues to be aggressive with their promotion despite of the accusation.

[cutesgirl]

Agree, but there are still discussions after that, which we can see in the scam accusation thread.

Interesting scam accusation and Betnomi decision to close it and stop discussion.
Being transparent and honest is important when you run casino and sports betting business.
I will follow what happens and I will post my own experience dealing with Betnomi in next few days.

That's good, following the thread and I like Betnomi that they continue to respond, there are two sides here, we should carefully evaluate both sides and decide based on the facts presented, I'm glad also that Betnomi still continues to be aggressive with their promotion despite of the accusation.

I think this method is also good by continuing to be active and responding to every complaint so I can discuss it faster than being silent or waiting for support services, many accusations have occurred with Betnomi but it is still denied by him because they are now transparent in providing to their users so the fact that betnomi is now out of the charge of fraud.

I think that you should not promote aggressively in these situations. you have to get the scam accusation resolved. Now Betnomi writes that it is a done deal and that they have sufficient evidence.
While the user has not had any proof ?! If you now only pay attention to promotions and flyers, it looks more like you don't want to solve it with the customer.
Betnomi is a new company, and already a bad name now. I have the feeling they are very unexperienced, serious companies should solve these things within a few hours. We are not talking about 100k. Only 3k
Betnomi thinks it is better to keep the money and that it would not effect their status here on the forum.

[Bttzed03]

I'm going to use this thread instead of the one in SA as I feel like it would be off-topic to post it there.

~ As far as withdrawals are concerned, there are 5 possible states of withdrawals, new, allowed, pending, rejected, and paid.

When you say "allowed" and then rejected later on, it really confuses people.

I'm not in any position to make you change your withdrawal process but how about:
1. New withdrawal request
2. Pending for review
3. Allowed/Rejected for payment

Or was that ^ the actual process and you just made some lapses paying $2K+?

On 2020-10-11 user: ram**** created an account made a $1,498.43 deposit.
Executed a specific bet and withdrew $4,462.00 after this action, our risk system automatically reduced the limit of this user.

Is this being done to all users who wins big? Prior to this, your risk system cannot tell if the particular user had no previous account correct?


I'm just asking about your system using the information you provided in the other thread. This is not about the accusation.

[nasipadang]

From their Terms:


30. Maximum winnings

 
Over a 24-hour period, the maximum winnings of each individual User are 100,000 Euros (net winnings, without counting the amount of set money



Do you really believe this? You can win an amount up to you 100.000 but they refuse to payout 3.000
Sadly I can only come to the conclusion that they do not have anybankroll.
If you really allow players to win 100.000 then you should not have any problem to pay the 3000 from the user, but they do not.
The information in the terms looks like to mislead people only, hoping to deposit big and gamble big.
When it comes to a withdrawal, they find bullshit arguments not to pay.

[Furious 7]

Betnomi is a new company, and already a bad name now. I have the feeling they are very unexperienced, serious companies should solve these things within a few hours. We are not talking about 100k. Only 3k
Betnomi thinks it is better to keep the money and that it would not effect their status here on the forum.

Betnomi is bad company? If so why are the top people on this forum still promoting their ads so heavily? like @yahoo and @Trofo. I don't accuse anyone, but Betnomi was able to rise from fraud at the beginning until now it has become widely known, I think that the problem for users who don't have evidence is the abuse of their own accounts so they still can't be resolved because they don't provide evidence, while Betnomi clarifies about this.

[nasipadang]

Betnomi is a new company, and already a bad name now. I have the feeling they are very unexperienced, serious companies should solve these things within a few hours. We are not talking about 100k. Only 3k
Betnomi thinks it is better to keep the money and that it would not effect their status here on the forum.

Betnomi is bad company? If so why are the top people on this forum still promoting their ads so heavily? like @yahoo and @Trofo. I don't accuse anyone, but Betnomi was able to rise from fraud at the beginning until now it has become widely known, I think that the problem for users who don't have evidence is the abuse of their own accounts so they still can't be resolved because they don't provide evidence, while Betnomi clarifies about this.

First of all: There is a difference between a bad company and a bad name.
Promoting the site is purely business. That doesn't interest those people who wear a signature. Anyone can be clear you're here to defend betnomi, and your bullshit arguments are all a joke.
By the way talking about evidence; Betnomi states that the user in question has multiple accounts, but refuses to provide proof. SO what the **** are you talking about with your evidence.
Since Betnomi is new here with their campaign, the participants can not know in what shady business Betnomi is. They have the right to promote the site and can not be blamed.

[Juggy777]

Betnomi is a new company, and already a bad name now. I have the feeling they are very unexperienced, serious companies should solve these things within a few hours. We are not talking about 100k. Only 3k
Betnomi thinks it is better to keep the money and that it would not effect their status here on the forum.

Betnomi is bad company? If so why are the top people on this forum still promoting their ads so heavily? like @yahoo and @Trofo. I don't accuse anyone, but Betnomi was able to rise from fraud at the beginning until now it has become widely known, I think that the problem for users who don't have evidence is the abuse of their own accounts so they still can't be resolved because they don't provide evidence, while Betnomi clarifies about this.

First of all: There is a difference between a bad company and a bad name.
Promoting the site is purely business. That doesn't interest those people who wear a signature. Anyone can be clear you're here to defend betnomi, and your bullshit arguments are all a joke.
By the way talking about evidence; Betnomi states that the user in question has multiple accounts, but refuses to provide proof. SO what the **** are you talking about with your evidence.
Since Betnomi is new here with their campaign, the participants can not know in what shady business Betnomi is. They have the right to promote the site and can not be blamed.

@nasipadang I had a long look at the SA, and sadly so far I see nothing that gives a clean chit to Betnomi, unless they can provide the necessary evidence demanded by the community. Also I don’t think that it’s right to question @yahoo62278 integrity, because from what I can see Betnomi is paying him for the activity’s that’s been conducted by him on their behalf.

Source:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279756.220 (Payment released by Betnomi on 15th for the signature campaign conducted by @yahoo62278, hence at his end things are going smoothly, and this particular issue should not be connected with him).

[betnomi]

We are constantly providing updates regarding the issue on the section of the forum where it belongs.
If you have interest in the topic kindly visit that topic and share your option out there.
Our sincere request, stop spamming our topic with unfounded accusations based on conjecture.

We do not make lightly of disputes such as these, our action regarding the issue was measured and without a question,
we acted appropriately with respect to our decision.  Again, feel free to share your opinions there.


Thank you all.

[gadado]

We are constantly providing updates regarding the issue on the section of the forum where it belongs.
If you have interest in the topic kindly visit that topic and share your option out there.
Our sincere request, stop spamming our topic with unfounded accusations based on conjecture.

We do not make lightly of disputes such as these, our action regarding the issue was measured and without a question,
we acted appropriately with respect to our decision.  Again, feel free to share your opinions there.


Thank you all.

When will this annoying, arrogant attitude stop? you are here in a public forum, where people have the right to say something.
All you do is run away from problems, and people have to settle for that.
Are you the king of this forum, betnomi? You already made many mistakes, and this is just one of them. With more to follow.
Show that you are a professional organisation and pay the lady her winnings.

[betnomi]

When will this annoying, arrogant attitude stop? you are here in a public forum, where people have the right to say something.
All you do is run away from problems, and people have to settle for that.
Are you the king of this forum, betnomi? You already made many mistakes, and this is just one of them. With more to follow.
Show that you are a professional organisation and pay the lady her winnings.

As we already pointed out, you are an ignorant individual who is incapable of critical thinking and lacks judgment.
An embodiment of herd mentality. You almost never read or can't understand comments on issues.
Constantly, you repeat the same talking points over and over. Your first-ever comment was to demand we pay the person without reviewing the available information/ evidence.
Again, you are here spewing the same nonsense. Its been a few days now since this debate has started and till now, you are still saying "pay the lady her winnings"
The user who creates the accusation is not a lady and secondly, that lady is clearly not playing our website. It's been 5 days now she hasn't responded to our emails or a single word from the person using her information.

These go to show you lack understanding and not even aware of the facts of the case but for some reason, you are leading the charge and demanding things you have no knowledge of.
Yes, this is a public forum and the beauty of it is, impotent people like you get to say whatever they want.

[gadado]

When will this annoying, arrogant attitude stop? you are here in a public forum, where people have the right to say something.
All you do is run away from problems, and people have to settle for that.
Are you the king of this forum, betnomi? You already made many mistakes, and this is just one of them. With more to follow.
Show that you are a professional organisation and pay the lady her winnings.

As we already pointed out, you are an ignorant individual who is incapable of critical thinking and lacks judgment.
An embodiment of herd mentality. You almost never read or can't understand comments on issues.
Constantly, you repeat the same talking points over and over. Your first-ever comment was to demand we pay the person without reviewing the available information/ evidence.
Again, you are here spewing the same nonsense. Its been a few days now since this debate has started and till now, you are still saying "pay the lady her winnings"
The user who creates the accusation is not a lady and secondly, that lady is clearly not playing our website. It's been 5 days now she hasn't responded to our emails or a single word from the person using her information.

These go to show you lack understanding and not even aware of the facts of the case but for some reason, you are leading the charge and demanding things you have no knowledge of.
Yes, this is a public forum and the beauty of it is, impotent people like you get to say whatever they want.

I am not trying to lecture here about countries that are allowed or excluded from participating in the Betnomi betting site.
you can argue about which countries may or may not be admitted. But a country that should absolutely NOT be allowed is Curacao itself, because Betnomi has her license from this country. And go ahead, look it up in Google, there are thousands of sites that confirm this. Furthermore, Betnomi also simply allows people from prohibited countries to register. In short:
it is and remains a mess on this site and the terms and conditions are not correct at all.
Or are you going to say again that you will adjust it again? Stop this amateurism and just make sure your terms are correct. You've been messing around with your terms from day 1, and now you still don't have it in order.
The Netherlands Antilles no longer exist. Have you sometimes pulled this list of countries from a topographic graph from the library of the 1990s?
The conditions are put together with cut and paste work. My son at primary school would receive a fail from his teacher as a piece of work for this.
So spoken about nonsense..



So why is The Netherlands Antilles in this list? That country does not exist anymore.
Curacao should be in the list.
Or did you took this list from your topographic book when you were 12?

[betnomi]

Lol, how funny and shameless you are! We called you out on your lack of knowledge on the ongoing debate.
Demanding we pay people regarding an issue you have no understanding of. A rational and responsible person would not do what you are doing and even with that,
they would go back and review the case and get their facts straight or better yet, simply shut up.

But no, none of those will satisfy your ego. So, you decided to deflect and raise issues that have been addressed and closed long ago. (talk about beating a dead horse  )

One more time, we will put you in your place. The list of countries in our terms and conditions is the standard for the industry. Regardless, we submitted a copy of our terms and conditions to the licensing authorities before our new license has been issued. You cannot change the terms and conditions without their approval after your license has been issued. The idea we changed our ToS several times and still have it wrong was made up from thin air by @Arcas  More evidence you cannot think for yourself but spew other people's ideas without any verification.

Again, pure ignorance and arrogance parading as facts. We are no longer going to engage with you on any issue as you are shameless, never do any research, and unwilling to learn.