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July 02, 2022, 08:53:59 PM
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England is good, but way too volatile. Besides that, I also have my thoughts about the quality of the coach. An inexperienced coach who has never achieved anything anywhere. You can never become World Champion with that. France has had a poor preparation so far, but that's not saying much. Brazil has a very strong team, but it wouldn't surprise me if Argentina takes the title. After all, a title suits the best football player in the world, Messi.

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July 02, 2022, 09:26:39 PM
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France being "out of shape" makes no sense to me, that is not a good defense and I think it is not real at all. We should be realizing that they would be getting a lot more fit before the world cup as well, they will literally be playing both league games and also nation league games and some may even play champions league and other stuff. All which would be proof enough that they would be super ready by November comes.

Definitely it is not going to be too easy on France to win it all, I am not saying it's guaranteed, but how they are right now and how they are in November will be quite different. This is why it is important to realize they will be fit, and their chemistry will be on point for sure.

France do have a number of talented players. But nothing can be done if the team bonding is not right. And there were some ugly incidents between some of the players (Kylian Mbappé, Paul Pogba & Adrien Rabiot), which I mentioned in one of my previous posts. How can we expect this team to play with good cohesion after such incidents? The main problem with France is that their players are too selfish (this was the point made by Veronique Rabiot, the mother of Adrien Rabiot). The same can be said about Belgium as well.
That's a problem for the team, if unity is absent then there is no team work, and to win games easily and win trophies you need much team work. The world cup is bigger than any player, the manager should be able to unite this players and make them settle their differences and play as one if they want to have a chance at the World Cup come September.
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July 03, 2022, 11:12:06 AM
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England is good, but way too volatile. Besides that, I also have my thoughts about the quality of the coach. An inexperienced coach who has never achieved anything anywhere. You can never become World Champion with that. France has had a poor preparation so far, but that's not saying much. Brazil has a very strong team, but it wouldn't surprise me if Argentina takes the title. After all, a title suits the best football player in the world, Messi.

Personally, I think that England was very close to the title at the last world and European championships, and I don't think that their coach is that bad. England is certainly one of the favorites of the competition.
The main problem for France is the problems in the relationship between the main players in the team and the coach without much authority. If they manage to solve it by the time of the world championship, they will again be one of the main favorites for the title.
I think that Brazil currently has a better team than Argentina. Argentina depends too much on Messi.

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July 03, 2022, 11:17:41 AM
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England is good, but way too volatile. Besides that, I also have my thoughts about the quality of the coach. An inexperienced coach who has never achieved anything anywhere. You can never become World Champion with that. France has had a poor preparation so far, but that's not saying much. Brazil has a very strong team, but it wouldn't surprise me if Argentina takes the title. After all, a title suits the best football player in the world, Messi.

Personally, I think that England was very close to the title at the last world and European championships, and I don't think that their coach is that bad. England is certainly one of the favorites of the competition.
The main problem for France is the problems in the relationship between the main players in the team and the coach without much authority. If they manage to solve it by the time of the world championship, they will again be one of the main favorites for the title.
I think that Brazil currently has a better team than Argentina. Argentina depends too much on Messi.
It's true what you said, it's not good for the national team to depend a lot on one player. If the players who are relied on can be stopped from moving, they will have difficulties in developing the game. Actually Argentina have a line of quality names, but I don't know if they play for a country they don't really see. That's a real problem for them.

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July 03, 2022, 11:48:24 AM
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Nations League was a disaster for France and England but I doubt that these clubs will perform poorly in Qatar like they did in NL.
Brazil to be the most favourite is OK. England in the second place? That's a bit exaggerated imo. France is better tho. Argentina isn't that bad and there shouldn't be such difference from England. Portugal? That would be a surprise.
I was surprised how high the bookies rate England's odds, maybe these odds are based on England being a Euro finalist, although it's a bit strange given that Italy doesn't take part in the World Cup finals at all. Smiley I'm also surprised that the odds for Germany is so different from France and the same England, which in the last matches looked very weak. The fact that Brazil is the bookmaker's favorite is to be expected, they love it.
Most of the time bookmakers need one or two teams for trap odds, so this is happening here in England case because we all know how they perform in these events for many decades and there is nothing new happening this time as well no chance for them to even have any place in last four they are unpredictable and never give their best at top level their domestic setup is one of best in world with too many trophies and achievements happening, but they fail to give their best in Euro and World Cup.

Most chances this time World cup is going to South America as their both top level teams are in good position, specially Brazil was amazing in qualified rounds, and they can go through here as well for this year's title.

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July 03, 2022, 12:09:33 PM
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England is good, but way too volatile. Besides that, I also have my thoughts about the quality of the coach. An inexperienced coach who has never achieved anything anywhere. You can never become World Champion with that. France has had a poor preparation so far, but that's not saying much. Brazil has a very strong team, but it wouldn't surprise me if Argentina takes the title. After all, a title suits the best football player in the world, Messi.
I've never considered England to be a big contender for European or World titles... They have a great level of club football, but the high results the national team has started to achieve in the last 4 years... In 2018 they finished 4th in the World Cup and in 2020 they played in the final of the European Championships but finished 2nd... Probably the bookies are making them second favourites for a reason, but I don't think England will win...
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July 03, 2022, 01:22:35 PM
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I've never considered England to be a big contender for European or World titles... They have a great level of club football, but the high results the national team has started to achieve in the last 4 years... In 2018 they finished 4th in the World Cup and in 2020 they played in the final of the European Championships but finished 2nd... Probably the bookies are making them second favourites for a reason, but I don't think England will win...
I agree with you that England have not been part of the team I have excelled in even for a number of years. There are so many reasons why I don't think England has the capability to compete any more. Their game is not very promising, even when they have a line of great names in their place. England failed to take advantage of the ability of its players.

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July 03, 2022, 02:28:38 PM
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Sure. On the one hand, I agree with you, but on the other hand, bookmakers are already taking bets on that event with might and main. Here is a group of favorites:

Brazil 5.50

England 6.55

France 7.00

Spain 8.95

Argentina 8.95

Germany 11.90

Portugal 13.00

Netherlands 13.00

Belgium 13.10

If I remember correctly, the last time I looked at the quotes, Brazil and England were on the same level, and France lagged behind quite a bit. It turns out that the games in the League of Nations had a negative impact on the chances of European teams.
Nations League was a disaster for France and England but I doubt that these clubs will perform poorly in Qatar like they did in NL.
Brazil to be the most favourite is OK. England in the second place? That's a bit exaggerated imo. France is better tho. Argentina isn't that bad and there shouldn't be such difference from England. Portugal? That would be a surprise.

Maybe the motivation of the teams will be better at the World Cup, or maybe not, so the bookmakers are doing the right thing by taking these results into account. As for the chances of the teams, the differences are not so great if we translate these coefficients into percentages. Brazil will have 18%, Argentina 11% and Portugal and Belgium 7.7% each.

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July 03, 2022, 06:43:18 PM
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I've never considered England to be a big contender for European or World titles... They have a great level of club football, but the high results the national team has started to achieve in the last 4 years... In 2018 they finished 4th in the World Cup and in 2020 they played in the final of the European Championships but finished 2nd... Probably the bookies are making them second favourites for a reason, but I don't think England will win...
I agree with you that England have not been part of the team I have excelled in even for a number of years. There are so many reasons why I don't think England has the capability to compete any more. Their game is not very promising, even when they have a line of great names in their place. England failed to take advantage of the ability of its players.
There was time when England was able to have this trophy, but they fail now with current situation and their game plan it's not looking promising even bookmakers feeling good about them but still it's one of most tough condition for them to win this trophy.

And they are having some good results in Nations League, but there are other factors which are having their impact, and they are able to perform in better way right now I am also having same feeling it's not easy for them to win or even reach into last four of this competition because few other European teams have much better quality and skilled players which can do better than England and have chance of winning this trophy.

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July 03, 2022, 06:47:36 PM
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England will have to play a lot better to become world champions. It may not say everything, but they lost 0-4 at home to Hungary last in the Nations League? I don't see countries like Brazil and France doing that anytime soon. And then also at home. I think England made a bad and strange choice with the appointment of Southgate as coach. Little experience and no big club trained. England is not just a country to coach. They should have asked someone else. Would Ferguson not be interested? I think this World Cup is going to be a huge disappointment for England.

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July 03, 2022, 08:16:29 PM
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England will have to play a lot better to become world champions. It may not say everything, but they lost 0-4 at home to Hungary last in the Nations League? I don't see countries like Brazil and France doing that anytime soon. And then also at home. I think England made a bad and strange choice with the appointment of Southgate as coach. Little experience and no big club trained. England is not just a country to coach. They should have asked someone else. Would Ferguson not be interested? I think this World Cup is going to be a huge disappointment for England.
England performance has been very poor recently and this level of performance will not get you past the knockout stage. If they want to progress further past the round of 16 stages they will have to do much better, put the team together. I also agree that Southgate is not good enough for the manager position because they have quality players and yet he is not able to get them to top performance. I think a more suitable coach should be brought in.
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July 03, 2022, 08:46:33 PM
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England is good, but way too volatile. Besides that, I also have my thoughts about the quality of the coach. An inexperienced coach who has never achieved anything anywhere. You can never become World Champion with that. France has had a poor preparation so far, but that's not saying much. Brazil has a very strong team, but it wouldn't surprise me if Argentina takes the title. After all, a title suits the best football player in the world, Messi.

Hehe, repeat that once more please.
They are simply over rated and over hyped.
I can't even place one cent of my mortgage on England to win the World Cup.
Southgate is no better than a division two manager.

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July 03, 2022, 09:09:29 PM
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I agree that Nations league is not something to base what they have been going through. I mean France and England saw that as a friendly game and tested both newer players (not just young, but new to national team) and also strategies and formations that would be different.

I know that some teams cared about it enough to try and win each game, but that doesn't change the fact that they didn't really have anything special going on with no rewards or anything so nobody really cared 100%. They will not be the same in World Cup, they will play with 100% all they got and they will be doing much better. If everyone didn't believe that, the oddmakers wouldn't give these odds.

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July 03, 2022, 10:58:04 PM
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England will have to play a lot better to become world champions. It may not say everything, but they lost 0-4 at home to Hungary last in the Nations League? I don't see countries like Brazil and France doing that anytime soon. And then also at home. I think England made a bad and strange choice with the appointment of Southgate as coach. Little experience and no big club trained. England is not just a country to coach. They should have asked someone else. Would Ferguson not be interested? I think this World Cup is going to be a huge disappointment for England.

Well... Brazil has already lost 7-0 in a game for the FIFA World Cup, it's something that every Brazilian like me would like to forget, but there's no way... it's something that will be forever marked in the minds of everyone who watched it. that shame.

Anyway, Brazilian football hasn't lost its credibility, I myself believe that the Brazilian team has many chances to win this world cup.
So, I also wouldn't take the merit of England because of a single game in which they were bad, that happens even with the best teams.

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July 03, 2022, 10:59:54 PM
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Well... Brazil has already lost 7-0 in a game for the FIFA World Cup, it's something that every Brazilian like me would like to forget, but there's no way... it's something that will be forever marked in the minds of everyone who watched it. that shame.

Anyway, Brazilian football hasn't lost its credibility, I myself believe that the Brazilian team has many chances to win this world cup.
So, I also wouldn't take the merit of England because of a single game in which they were bad, that happens even with the best teams.

I don't think Brasil is the biggest favorite for this tournament but they are always in the discussion. They used to have more powerful squad but now they are mid team at best. Neymar is not the ideal leader, they are far away from real Ronaldo and then Ronaldinho era.
England never had an achievement for years, they always say maybe this time but it never happens. I'll probably stick with Argentina this time as I want Messi to finally lift the trophy before he retires.
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July 03, 2022, 11:05:25 PM
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Well... Brazil has already lost 7-0 in a game for the FIFA World Cup, it's something that every Brazilian like me would like to forget, but there's no way... it's something that will be forever marked in the minds of everyone who watched it. that shame.

Anyway, Brazilian football hasn't lost its credibility, I myself believe that the Brazilian team has many chances to win this world cup.
So, I also wouldn't take the merit of England because of a single game in which they were bad, that happens even with the best teams.

I don't think Brasil is the biggest favorite for this tournament but they are always in the discussion.
England never had an achievement for years, they always say maybe this time but it never happens.
can't you see how European teams are performing lately, not too good, odds are favoring brazil and I'm not surprised and they seem to be the closest to win it in my opinion, I'm putting England at almost the bottom of the list to win the world cup this year, I don't think they can do it, Argentina has a better chance.

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I don't think Brasil is the biggest favorite for this tournament but they are always in the discussion. They used to have more powerful squad but now they are mid team at best. Neymar is not the ideal leader, they are far away from real Ronaldo and then Ronaldinho era.
England never had an achievement for years, they always say maybe this time but it never happens. I'll probably stick with Argentina this time as I want Messi to finally lift the trophy before he retires.

Brazil hasn't lost a single match in the entire qualification stage. And that's in CONMEBOL, one of the most competitive confederations of the world cup. Argentina has the same stats.

For comparison, the other two teams that qualified, Uruguay and Ecuador, have both lost six matches.

That tells you something about how good Brazil and Argentina are.

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July 04, 2022, 07:20:42 AM
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England will have to play a lot better to become world champions. It may not say everything, but they lost 0-4 at home to Hungary last in the Nations League? I don't see countries like Brazil and France doing that anytime soon. And then also at home. I think England made a bad and strange choice with the appointment of Southgate as coach. Little experience and no big club trained. England is not just a country to coach. They should have asked someone else. Would Ferguson not be interested? I think this World Cup is going to be a huge disappointment for England.

I think, England coach has a lot of work to do to bring the team back  again by increasing their performance in this world cup. England fans was not happy about the poor performance they experienced during the nation league, that is causing their country fear if they will be able to perform well in the world cup competition. I believe England will definitely improve higher in world cup competition, because their coach is well prepared to introduce more tactics that will help the team to achieve victory through out the tournament.

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England is good, but way too volatile. Besides that, I also have my thoughts about the quality of the coach. An inexperienced coach who has never achieved anything anywhere. You can never become World Champion with that. France has had a poor preparation so far, but that's not saying much. Brazil has a very strong team, but it wouldn't surprise me if Argentina takes the title. After all, a title suits the best football player in the world, Messi.
I've never considered England to be a big contender for European or World titles... They have a great level of club football, but the high results the national team has started to achieve in the last 4 years... In 2018 they finished 4th in the World Cup and in 2020 they played in the final of the European Championships but finished 2nd... Probably the bookies are making them second favourites for a reason, but I don't think England will win...

English clubs are very good in European club competitions and achieve excellent results, but mostly due to financial power and a large number of foreign players in English clubs.
On the other hand, of course, only English players can play in the English national team, and England is not as dominant there as in club football.
In fact, it is incredible that a country that is the cradle of football, and that has such a long tradition, is so bad in representative football and that they were world champions only once, way back in 1966 on their own field and with the help of a controversial referee.
I think that Brazil and France, not England, are the main favorites at the World Cup in Qatar.

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England is good, but way too volatile. Besides that, I also have my thoughts about the quality of the coach. An inexperienced coach who has never achieved anything anywhere. You can never become World Champion with that. France has had a poor preparation so far, but that's not saying much. Brazil has a very strong team, but it wouldn't surprise me if Argentina takes the title. After all, a title suits the best football player in the world, Messi.
I've never considered England to be a big contender for European or World titles... They have a great level of club football, but the high results the national team has started to achieve in the last 4 years... In 2018 they finished 4th in the World Cup and in 2020 they played in the final of the European Championships but finished 2nd... Probably the bookies are making them second favourites for a reason, but I don't think England will win...

English clubs are very good in European club competitions and achieve excellent results, but mostly due to financial power and a large number of foreign players in English clubs.
On the other hand, of course, only English players can play in the English national team, and England is not as dominant there as in club football.
In fact, it is incredible that a country that is the cradle of football, and that has such a long tradition, is so bad in representative football and that they were world champions only once, way back in 1966 on their own field and with the help of a controversial referee.
I think that Brazil and France, not England, are the main favorites at the World Cup in Qatar.
FOr most of the people Brazil is the hot favourite and for others. Portugal is on the hit list.
But one thing is important to see - how Qatar will deal with Alcohol and other things which are banned in Islamic states.

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