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January 08, 2021, 11:43:48 PM
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I don't know if these people are still playing in the casinos but casinos I'm sure have already noted these people, if I am going to win against casinos I prefer through luck and skill not from cheating, it's like stealing, and people will not fully trust you, because they know that you are capable of cheating, it's not easy to cheat a gambling casinos, so people will think it's second nature to you.

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January 09, 2021, 02:45:56 AM
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I don't know if these people are still playing in the casinos but casinos I'm sure have already noted these people, if I am going to win against casinos I prefer through luck and skill not from cheating, it's like stealing, and people will not fully trust you, because they know that you are capable of cheating, it's not easy to cheat a gambling casinos, so people will think it's second nature to you.
I think people who can get a win at a casino gambling place have very good luck because if you want to commit fraud in this game it is very difficult to do, but you should also be careful because a gambling place can make you lose instantly if you don't be careful when taking steps.

That will only for people who really know how the casino games work, so they can search for the bug and use it for their own benefit. I think the casino will not let the bug because they have an IT team that will search for every problem in their site, and make sure that people do not cheat them and get the money. But if people can win at a casino place, and they don't cheat the casino, that will because of their luck that comes to them in the right time and right place.

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January 09, 2021, 07:05:53 AM
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I don't know if these people are still playing in the casinos but casinos I'm sure have already noted these people, if I am going to win against casinos I prefer through luck and skill not from cheating, it's like stealing, and people will not fully trust you, because they know that you are capable of cheating, it's not easy to cheat a gambling casinos, so people will think it's second nature to you.

Indeed, house are now ready to those who are intending to cheat.

Once the system or the people around the house notice some suspicious act from someone, they'll immidiately freeze or ask you to stand
if you are playing  in a land base casinos, they'll have developed system to detect this kind of cheating activities, making sure that thyey'll prevent anyone to abuse their business,.
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January 09, 2021, 09:59:56 AM
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No matter how much effort went into building a casino whether it's online or physical there are always some bugs and errors, so even though it's extremely hard to find them it doesn't mean it's impossible to cheat the system and use it in a way that is profitable specifically for you.

99.999% gamblers won't be able to find them though and it needs those very few smart enough people to finds those bugs and come up with a proper strategy to benefit from that in a way that they wouldn't get caught, that's why these casinos are able to make a consistent amount of profit out of their business despite the fact that cheating their system exists, because the chance of people being able to pull something like that and not get caught is very small.
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January 09, 2021, 10:52:49 AM
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I don't know if these people are still playing in the casinos but casinos I'm sure have already noted these people, if I am going to win against casinos I prefer through luck and skill not from cheating, it's like stealing, and people will not fully trust you, because they know that you are capable of cheating, it's not easy to cheat a gambling casinos, so people will think it's second nature to you.

They may not be trusted by a lot of people but the fact that we are now talking about these people that beat the house even though they cheated means that they've done something that is amazing. You said it yourself, it is hard to cheat gambling casinos and that fact that they did it and beat the those is an amazing thing for itself.

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January 09, 2021, 01:58:48 PM
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Awesome!! Placing those people who manages to beat and break a casino and win every huge amount of money was really awesome and quite inspirational for those people who are aspiring to become a professional gamblers someday.
Don Johnson was really one of the gods that I am idolizing since day 1 because his ability and skills are pure and how he manage every round whenever he plays was superb.

I don't think they're inspirational because they've won for cheating and that has negative consequences. We could be charged for that. I guess they did an effective strategy but I guess it wasn't fair that casinos have caught them doing it. It's better to win in casinos fairly than to face charges by cheating.
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January 09, 2021, 02:17:18 PM
Last edit: January 09, 2021, 02:50:35 PM by acroman08
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the number 1 is probably the most interesting among the list and I would have loved to see a documentary of them doing it I've also watched the movie although the movie good I feel like the movie is missing something that a documentary would have. also not in a million years I would consider card counter as cheating. the only reason why it is considered as cheating because casinos can actually lose money if someone used on them.

Dennis Nikrasch managed to get 16 million USD from slot machines, unfortunately he cheated and had to be responsible for his actions. He cheated
by making special chips that can manipulate slot machines.
I am curious how does the chip manipulate the machine? does the chip has a malware of some kind that affect the machine?

@OP I suggest providing sources. some people might flag this as plagiarism

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January 09, 2021, 02:53:44 PM
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Those  people are smart but they use their knowledge in bad things , maybe they want easy money so they did that .
For sure they have people watching you once you are trying to cheat and they have big punishment so it's better to not try that.
But it is really sure that they have some who are not yet caught and still getting more profit.

And the people who succeeded in this won't mention this in a topic. They will keep quiet and keeping cheating.



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January 09, 2021, 03:09:42 PM
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I don't know if these people are still playing in the casinos but casinos I'm sure have already noted these people, if I am going to win against casinos I prefer through luck and skill not from cheating, it's like stealing, and people will not fully trust you, because they know that you are capable of cheating, it's not easy to cheat a gambling casinos, so people will think it's second nature to you.

They may not be trusted by a lot of people but the fact that we are now talking about these people that beat the house even though they cheated means that they've done something that is amazing. You said it yourself, it is hard to cheat gambling casinos and that fact that they did it and beat the those is an amazing thing for itself.

But in this case it can happen but people never think of this as a trap as fraud, the fact that casinos still have a large demand so they will definitely commit any cheating, I know in casino games in movies there is often cheating but it can being a lesson and also a skill then it can be called luck then it's the fact that the casino is still going on great cheating.
But inside I never thought about this there is still fair I do this for fun even at home often play with friends.

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January 09, 2021, 03:34:38 PM
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This kind of person or gambler who manages to beat the casino through cheating is very unbelievable that I only thought it only works in movies. It is also why all magicians are banned in a casino because they use sleight of hand in their acts that a simple person can't spot a skilled magician's hand using their skills. If all gambler knows about this kind of cheating or how to win a casino, many casinos are bankrupt today.

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January 09, 2021, 04:21:46 PM
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I believe in the saying that, cheaters never win. They will never win. Because at the end of the day, even though they were able to beat the “house” and its system, they will be caught and will surely take responsibility for their deeds. As much as these mentioned examples may be astonishing for some, cheating will never be a good thing.
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January 09, 2021, 04:27:48 PM
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On a completely different note, good cheaters can become bug hunters and get paid for disclosing such bugs to casino platforms. There can always be a good and a bad side in things.
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January 09, 2021, 04:29:05 PM
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Some of them were unbelievable and how sharp minds they must be in order to defeat the system and make a millions from it. Some might just get lucky as they may not be on those list and would not even know if such things had happened, but this guys as formally its being announced are now the target point and rightly because they did cheating in the end to ensure they win. Just wondering they never thought twice about their reputation as the risk always exist of being caught in such cases as you make millions in the end.

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January 09, 2021, 04:44:15 PM
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That will ruin my reputation and I might even had a police record if I caught cheating casinos we all know casinos are license, they are legal business so the casinos can charge you of fraud and you can get imprison if you get caught, you will be ban for life and your online choice to play is through online to those casinos who do not implement KYC.
depending on where you are, in my country, you will not be in jail for doing something like this...
It may be the state that gets a large tax from gambling businesses that will provide harsh penalties for those who cheat casinos like Macau and Las Vegas.



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January 09, 2021, 04:49:56 PM
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Some of them were unbelievable and how sharp minds they must be in order to defeat the system and make a millions from it. Some might just get lucky as they may not be on those list and would not even know if such things had happened, but this guys as formally its being announced are now the target point and rightly because they did cheating in the end to ensure they win. Just wondering they never thought twice about their reputation as the risk always exist of being caught in such cases as you make millions in the end.
All the person mentioned in the post were sharp minded, because here luck has a small role compared to the technical skills. I wonder about few persons who aren't allowed to play in casinos, believing that the casino will go bankrupt. Lucky wins are jackpots where the user have no role other than a participation.

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January 09, 2021, 05:39:42 PM
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On a completely different note, good cheaters can become bug hunters and get paid for disclosing such bugs to casino platforms. There can always be a good and a bad side in things.
Well most of them are either imprisoned if caught or hired by the company they've cheated on depending on the impact they've made. Just as professional hackers and virus makers, most of them are reportedly being hired to help improve the company's security and avoid future hacks.
That will ruin my reputation and I might even had a police record if I caught cheating casinos we all know casinos are license, they are legal business so the casinos can charge you of fraud and you can get imprison if you get caught, you will be ban for life and your online choice to play is through online to those casinos who do not implement KYC.
Yes, that will ruin your reputation if caught and most probably be imprisoned as gambling companies are strict with their policies and doesn't want anyone cheating their game even if it is online. Once they know your identity, there's a high probability that the authorities will soon be knocking on your door.

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January 09, 2021, 05:57:03 PM
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Some of them were unbelievable and how sharp minds they must be in order to defeat the system and make a millions from it.

Hard work and really paying attention for any small possibilities that the house have lapses that they can find to take advanatage of the situations beating or banking decent amount of money from the house.

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Some might just get lucky as they may not be on those list and would not even know if such things had happened, but this guys as formally its being announced are now the target point and rightly because they did cheating in the end to ensure they win.

Luck or really some twist that being used to have a  good edge from the house, sadly that they are really being eyed to protect the business.


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Just wondering they never thought twice about their reputation as the risk always exist of being caught in such cases as you make millions in the end.

They are willing to gamble even their names for the sake of good amount of money to cashout from the house.


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January 09, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
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On a completely different note, good cheaters can become bug hunters and get paid for disclosing such bugs to casino platforms. There can always be a good and a bad side in things.
You're right about this, this could be the best for bug hunting which we all know to attract handsome rewards. In my local games i usually tried to game the platform but this isn't ethical becasue it help destroy ones reputations built for years.

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January 09, 2021, 06:37:53 PM
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On a completely different note, good cheaters can become bug hunters and get paid for disclosing such bugs to casino platforms. There can always be a good and a bad side in things.

Like Tommy Carmichael. I happen to watch his documentary years ago and I remember him when I saw this thread. He created a cheating device to manipulate Slot Machine and even sell the device to other players.

Of course, you have to be a cheater to really beat the casino. But eventually, his device made the casino updated their devices this turned out that the bug he discovers made the casino updates thier slot machines.

Here is one of the youtube video about him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHsVPkAmcYo

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January 09, 2021, 08:26:21 PM
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The gambler who manages to beat the casino through cheating

What at least most of these people do is not cheating. Yes it is against casino rules, since it brings them loss, but is definitely not cheating. They just try to beat the game. And they do it smart.
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