The gambler who manages to beat the casino through cheating

[maydna]

Im familiar with this because of some movies that I watch with actors playing card games, a technique used by gamblers to cheat and win. If you're not caught you can earn bucks otherwise its a mess. We all want to win and beat the house edge but its better to do it in a right way and not through cheating. Its nice to become well known for being a gambler with working strategy rather than a cheater who is greedy to earn money.

But that doesn't mean we can win many times with the same technique because if the casino suspicious, they will search for what is wrong with their system, and if they found a bug on the system, they will fix as soon as possible to prevent a gambler can cheat again. Yes, we all want to win, but we hard to get it, and using a cheat way will be advisable because that can make us get in the trouble. As humans, we will try something that we think will work to win the game, and if we can win, we will try again and again. So we should not try to cheat and play as the other gambler who search for the fun things.

[Findingnemo]

It isnt an art and someone who do call it an art is just having that dumb mind or understanding of things.

When elon musk introduced a dumb ugly truck as the cyber truck with attractive trap ad made his company to be one of the richest world even without the actual product but we still call them as greatest mind but when someone do the same to make the money directly is a cheater!

[iamsheikhadil]

This is a good read! Thank you, OP. I hope there is more of this in the forum. I am amazed that there so many ways to beat a casino. And that there is a girl within them. Seems gambling is not just luck but also a mind game.

I disagree lol. It's not a mind game when a player is competing against computer or games where only luck is involved, for example, games like roulette, dice, plinko, keno, these games are totally random and there's no mindtrick we can use. In games where sometimes skill is needed like blackjack, then also we can't use any trick because even though there's some strategy needed, it depends majorly on the luck of the person what cards they get!

[Genemind]

This is a good read! Thank you, OP. I hope there is more of this in the forum. I am amazed that there so many ways to beat a casino. And that there is a girl within them. Seems gambling is not just luck but also a mind game.

I disagree lol. It's not a mind game when a player is competing against computer or games where only luck is involved, for example, games like roulette, dice, plinko, keno, these games are totally random and there's no mindtrick we can use. In games where sometimes skill is needed like blackjack, then also we can't use any trick because even though there's some strategy needed, it depends majorly on the luck of the person what cards they get!

Most people mentioned by OP used tricks, devices and cheated to beat the casino. This only shows that it takes that far to really beat a casino. I agree that it really requires a lot of luck for you to be able to win a lot in a casino, but it is very rare to win over a casino without a trick. In some cases casinos review activities within their premises if someone wins too often to assure thay are not being tricked.

[aoluain]

The MIT Blackjack team shouldn't be considered cheating at all.

Casinos are private properties so pit bosses can tell APs/card counters to back off, but nowhere does it say that it is illegal to use your intelligence and knowledge to gain an advantage at a casino game.

In fact, they shouldn't even be considered gamblers. They play a very carefully calculated strategy to maximise EV and minimise the risk of ruin. It's more of an investment rather than anything else.

This is the point I was making and other made previously, That MIT
blackjack team developed a very sophisticated technique to beat the
casinos, it was definitely a skill.

On this subject has anyone read "Bringing down the house" by Ben Mezrich?
I read it a long time ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.

The amazing inside story about a gambling ring of M.I.T. students
who beat the system in Vegas – and lived to tell how.

[jademaxsuy]

I like the last 2 gamblers in the list.The two work on how to trick casino using their ability. However, if I were there watching how Richard Marcus was doing then I can probably laugh so hard. He is not smart yes that is true but he has a lot of confidence and that enables him create a strategy like that. In that case I guess he will not going to stay on a single casino and probably he will go around other casino so that he will not get caught easily but still he got caught.

[akirasendo17]

I think I have heard the news in a well-known casino in Asia, where they are cheating the casino together with the banker, they were betting without any money going out, instead, the banker is giving them chips, they were groups in the table, maybe they are doing it in a long time but the bad things is they were caught when an officer of the casino saw the banker giving the guest chips and bets it, they were also monitored in the CCTV for a while then approach by the management and with the guards.

[Sadlife]

Is there something else you wanted to share that is almost cheat free? Reading the OP seems most or all of them are gambler that cheated the casino. I think I'll be more inspired to people who never quits gambling yet manage to hit their lucks.

There is, although they've won from sports betting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263144.0

Couldn't find the thread about biggest casino winners or my keywords are just wrong, but the contents was long story short. They've found some strategy and manage to win consecutively mostly in poker, some also got lucky through slot and roulette. The key in winning against house edge is they've develop their own strategies to win similar to the MIT blackjack team, its not cheating when the games itself has flaw in my opinion.

[South Park]

No, if the only way to beat a casino was through cheating then you may have a point, but there are many players that over the years have beaten the casinos legitimately even in games that you could consider to be pure luck like craps and roulette so I think we should not mix the two, the players that actually beat the casinos are for the most part incredible people with a talent and a determination to create a new strategy to beat the casinos while the rest are cheaters.

Those who tried to cheat the casinos have the mindset that the casinos are also cheating on them that is why they resort to using cheating, but the casinos are good at catching cheaters, casinos employ CCTV, and they have trained employers to look for players who they think will cheat the system, they know that they will always cheaters and they can lose a lot from these cheaters.

Well, there are also casinos that cheat but for the most part casinos do not need to cheat, they already have the house edge to their advantage and for the most part that is all what they need but physical casinos have even more weapons they can use against you, like putting very loud music so it is hard for you to think if you are implementing a strategy like card counting or offering free drinks to those that are winning so they lose whatever edge they may have at the game they are playing.

[Twentyonepaylots]

Here's the thing, these people here didn't juat knew how to cheat on a casino after a feverish night. No, they painstakingly trained themselves and researched on the ups and downs of the business in order to win and to cheat without getting caught. And more often than not, knowing how good casinos are at catching black-footed people, they will most likely get banned. So if you want to be banned in several houses with no hope to ever play in there again, then becoming a gambling pro is your best bet.

[TimeTeller]

I like the last 2 gamblers in the list.The two work on how to trick casino using their ability. However, if I were there watching how Richard Marcus was doing then I can probably laugh so hard. He is not smart yes that is true but he has a lot of confidence and that enables him create a strategy like that. In that case I guess he will not going to stay on a single casino and probably he will go around other casino so that he will not get caught easily but still he got caught.

Sometimes for them, confidence is what they have. 
But don't think such strategy will be good for long-term.
That's why, he still got caught. Lesson learned, just follow the rules.
At least, you have nothing to worry about even if you hop from one casino to another.
Because you can't truly enjoy the game, if you know that you are doing something fraudulent.
It is like, you are always checking on your shoulder, thus, not really enjoying the moment.

[dimonstration]

I think I have heard the news in a well-known casino in Asia, where they are cheating the casino together with the banker, they were betting without any money going out, instead, the banker is giving them chips, they were groups in the table, maybe they are doing it in a long time but the bad things is they were caught when an officer of the casino saw the banker giving the guest chips and bets it, they were also monitored in the CCTV for a while then approach by the management and with the guards.

People nowadays uses trick or uses people to do business, atleast they were caught now. Casinos should be more observant now especially that many countries still in lockdown due to Pandemic. They can easily see who is cheating or doing unnecessary moves in able to win. Now that casinos were more in online transactions they can tighten their security physically but also they need to adopt in new technologies to keep their business.

[maydna]

I think I have heard the news in a well-known casino in Asia, where they are cheating the casino together with the banker, they were betting without any money going out, instead, the banker is giving them chips, they were groups in the table, maybe they are doing it in a long time but the bad things is they were caught when an officer of the casino saw the banker giving the guest chips and bets it, they were also monitored in the CCTV for a while then approach by the management and with the guards.

People nowadays uses trick or uses people to do business, atleast they were caught now. Casinos should be more observant now especially that many countries still in lockdown due to Pandemic. They can easily see who is cheating or doing unnecessary moves in able to win. Now that casinos were more in online transactions they can tighten their security physically but also they need to adopt in new technologies to keep their business.

That is a lesson for people who want to use tricks still and cheat the casino. They need to check about CCTV which can be installed on that casino, and I think not just the casino that installs CCTV, but it is installed in the other business. The casino or the security can monitor all gamblers who gamble on their place, whether they gamble or just watch the other gamblers play. In the online casino, I think they have good security officials who always monitor all activity on their site to know what the gamblers do.

[Peanutswar]

Some of the people say if you can't beat the machine, make your own machine. Well, this is part of the gambling which is losing with these different games such as slot machine, card games and etc. But the problem is rules is a rule if you disregard the rules it's your mistake. Some of them want to try their skills and knowledge with gambling because its all compose of power and strategy but the problem is there is a consequence you prove your self you can easily win with the casino but the problem is there is a chance you will risk your self by cheating through this casinos. You cannot escape a casino unless you are james bond. A casino full of CCTV can easily monitor the unexpected and suspicious behavior.

[Mauser]

Some of the people say if you can't beat the machine, make your own machine. Well, this is part of the gambling which is losing with these different games such as slot machine, card games and etc. But the problem is rules is a rule if you disregard the rules it's your mistake. Some of them want to try their skills and knowledge with gambling because its all compose of power and strategy but the problem is there is a consequence you prove your self you can easily win with the casino but the problem is there is a chance you will risk your self by cheating through this casinos. You cannot escape a casino unless you are james bond. A casino full of CCTV can easily monitor the unexpected and suspicious behavior.

I agree with you that a casino makes their own rules, and will always try to make the best possible situation for themselfs. Security and CCTV operations are a major part of any casino and without it the numbers of cheaters would increase exponentially. With these security system it is not so much about catching cheaters in the act and more about being a detterence in the first place. When you can convince the cheater to stay at home rather than go to your casino you already won. And a small fraction will always slip through the cracks.

[msarro]

Well you really can't beat the casino unless you will be cheating however that's a good option let's just accept the fact that we can't beat the casino well there are people who might be lucky enough but that's very rare case.

[Betwrong]

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Yes, cheating is an art, and it requires talent and a lot of training and practicing. Isn't it better to apply all that to become skillful in some other field?

The thing with cheating is that once you started, you can't stop doing it at your will. You can't earn money with cheating, and be honest with your girlfriend/wife, friends etc. at the same time. You just can't, and then there are bad consequences. And that's why I wouldn't call cheaters smart, or "great minds". Great minds wouldn't direct their efforts on ruining their own lives.

I dont know that kind of mindset on where cheating is somewhat a commendable thing of being smart because in other angle of perspective it isnt really ethical on any manner.

They do able to make money but not on the legal way and this is through cheating and when the time that they do play fair then they cant really resist not to cheat up
because these are the thing theyve been get used to.

It isnt an art and someone who do call it an art is just having that dumb mind or understanding of things.

Overall I agree with you, but I want to emphasize that not only cheating isn't ethical, but, what is more important, it isn't profitable in the long term. Ethical norms can be flexible since we have people of different cultures around, but nobody, regardless of their background, wants their life to be ruined, and this is what inevitably happens to cheaters sooner or later.

[Xxmodded]

I think only at the movie have any manages to beat the casino through cheating but in the real always have the same on the movie, I think happen if casino not playing with cheating they can't get bigger place and take much profit every year, we know almost gambler loss much money and hard to get win, the same like website gambling never give any chance for any one to win, I think better hold and keep saving money half when success win.

[shield132]

I don't remember that person but there was a man who programmed slots and included secret combination in it that only he know. By following that combination, he won a lot of money. It happened years, years ago.
Btw at the moment situation has changed. They learnt from mistakes, games are built in a way where you can't mathematically beat it, so in the long term, casino is the winner. Also, if you play online, every casino has a team of risk analysts that carefully keep an eye on your gambling behaviour.

So, during the covid pandemic when real life casinos are closed and online ones are seriously developed with good and almost bug free codes, no one would inspire me to gamble and beat the casino.

[yazher]

Well you really can't beat the casino unless you will be cheating however that's a good option let's just accept the fact that we can't beat the casino well there are people who might be lucky enough but that's very rare case.

Yeah! the solid evidence of those people who won from Casino is their numbers there are only a few who won and as you can see there are more people who win in their business than winning in the casinos. If people really blinded by thinking their life would change if they beat it, I guess that is just some imagination because most of those people who won from casino to lottery are tempted to play again after some days of celebration and mostly they lose all their money as soon as they back playing again.