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February 04, 2021, 09:56:55 AM |
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By the way, I would prefer the winning amounts to be moderate in order to avoid situation like that. Better that the rest of the prize money is split into my parts and spread around so that there will be more winners
Then lottery games are not meant for someone like you because people usually winning big through it with just a $20 ticket. So how do we make sure that people who win big actually benefit from the wins or don't get badly affected by the wins? I believe my response is directed at the negative consequences of winning big and how to avoid it, which is what this thread should be about in order to tally with the topic & the post and help solve the problem it provides. People should learn to detach themselves from material things so when they unexpectedly win/lose, they pretend as if nothing happened and move on. The less pressure could even help them know how to spend the money or manage the situation the right way. .
By nature, all human is connected to the material and to avoid a situation stated by the OP it depends on the individual maturity and health illnesses. However, gambling is not for people who cant control their emotions/buzz I don't why it hard for people to understand this. You think the woman gambled (or took big betting risk)? I'm more concerned about people's betting safely/responsibly rather than taking big betting risk. By the way, I have played lottery before and my risk was very little. Didn't really bother myself with the winners because I wasn't attached to bet... I guess it was because I bet with what I could afford to lose.
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February 04, 2021, 12:14:55 PM |
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You know, some of these people do not die of a heart attack when they find out that they have won the Lottery. A lot of them die much later of a heart attack as a result of the money that they won. Just imagine this scenario : Over weight guy wins the lottery and suddenly he has the money to live a wild and exciting new life. He buys the Jet ski that he could not afford before and then goes out on the lake, playing with his new toy. (He is not fit enough for this physical exercise and get a heart attack as a result) Another guy was living on the street, barely having enough money to get proper food. Now he wins the Lottery and start buying all this unhealthy food. (Eating Wagyu Steaks with sauces and fries etc.) He also buy himself a nice gaming computer or latest Playstation console and gets no exercise, so he become overweight and his heart fail as a result. I also see this as another scenario. There are a lot of lottery winners in the past that made that win their demise. I watched the video of the infographic show about these winners that instead of being lucky, ended up getting unlucky as they won. Some of them got robbed, some of them didn't manage the money well and some ended up being dead. I don't believe in luck but I think there are times that they really ran out.
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February 04, 2021, 01:16:50 PM |
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Hopefully we will all be given health, because having a healthy body is more valuable than having a lot of money. Therefore, if we can maintain our food properly, by always eating healthy foods. We will avoid various diseases including heart disease. If we are healthy, we can do anything, including playing the lottery and when we win the lottery, we are not afraid of having a heart attack. Because I was quite surprised to know that many people died from heart attack when winning the lottery.
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February 04, 2021, 02:34:52 PM |
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Hopefully we will all be given health, because having a healthy body is more valuable than having a lot of money. Therefore, if we can maintain our food properly, by always eating healthy foods. We will avoid various diseases including heart disease. If we are healthy, we can do anything, including playing the lottery and when we win the lottery, we are not afraid of having a heart attack. Because I was quite surprised to know that many people died from heart attack when winning the lottery.
Better for some one is not ready for getting attack on betting or cryptocurrency keep far away from both side, you know how come when some one get much money from betting but he is not ready and die suddenly, will happen when he loss on betting because he not ready his soul for bad and good thing in betting, I think keep playing safety like make small business with chance lower loss and profit maybe.
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February 04, 2021, 02:46:45 PM |
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Sounds like the player had far too much stress going in in their lives and were overcome with a sudden ramping up of that stress as they realised they'd won. Definitely a cautionary tale for anyone wanting to de-stress through gambling.
I don't think that stress would be real reason why people dies from heart attack when winning jackpots. It is more likely the excitement that comes when you win at anything especially with gambling. I've experience too much excitement when gambling even if I only win small rewards but in this case, hitting jackpots will surely gives you too much joy and excitement knowing how it will change your life. Anyway, I'm not saying that stress isn't a factor as it can really put yourself into risk when combined with a sudden change of feeling such as excitement but it's not the main reason of the death of jackpot winners.
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February 04, 2021, 05:02:19 PM |
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I don't think that stress would be real reason why people dies from heart attack when winning jackpots. It is more likely the excitement that comes when you win at anything especially with gambling.
That's it, its got to be much more than stress. Most of this people probably had some illness or something and probably what was at stake but then, i think its more about the shock. You had a lot on your head and all of a sudden, its all gone when you least expected it. Most people that die from gone shot isn't often about the instant pain they receive but then, the sudden shock that results from the fact that you've just been shot, i creates in you the mindset that puts you in that death spot. That is synonymous to the situation being talked about here, having all hope lost and instantly a jackpot. It pushes you to the edge and if you ain't strong enough, you fall off.
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February 04, 2021, 07:04:08 PM |
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That I guess is the negative reaction of the human body who already had history on heart disease (some might be too mild that It goes unnoticed) who got overwhelmed with happiness, excitement, and surprise. All of this is a product of an unhealthy lifestyle, though some are hereditary but is being abused by unhealthy lifestyle as well.
Well, I don't know If how are the family members are able to process and claim the winning amount If this person who just won died after learning that his ticket had the jackpot.
At first, judging from the name of this thread I too thought it's about how people died immediately after winning the jackpot, which seemed suspicious, because it's a common misbelief, that people can simply have a heart attack due to shock/too surprising events/excitement. As you said, it can only happen to people, who already had a heart attack, or have a medical predisposition. But look at the articles closely - these people died weeks after winning the lottery from a different cause: in a car crash, or old people getting scared of something, and some of the search results just concern the matter of inheritance right in such cases...
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February 04, 2021, 07:42:23 PM |
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By the way, I would prefer the winning amounts to be moderate in order to avoid situation like that. Better that the rest of the prize money is split into my parts and spread around so that there will be more winners
Then lottery games are not meant for someone like you because people usually winning big through it with just a $20 ticket. So how do we make sure that people who win big actually benefit from the wins or don't get badly affected by the wins? I believe my response is directed at the negative consequences of winning big and how to avoid it, which is what this thread should be about in order to tally with the topic & the post and help solve the problem it provides. I recognize this thread was about the negative consequences of winning big in any form of gambling and I am sorry for talking straight earlier but we can't actually solve every gambler problem if each gambler is still naive of concept of gambling and how much he will win when place his bet which what I believe happened to the victims mentioned by the OP cause if they know all this it wont be strange to them when they actually won. Naive gambler need to educate themselves. People should learn to detach themselves from material things so when they unexpectedly win/lose, they pretend as if nothing happened and move on. The less pressure could even help them know how to spend the money or manage the situation the right way. .
By nature, all human is connected to the material and to avoid a situation stated by the OP it depends on the individual maturity and health illnesses. However, gambling is not for people who cant control their emotions/buzz I don't why it hard for people to understand this. You think the woman gambled (or took big betting risk)? I'm more concerned about people's betting safely/responsibly rather than taking big betting risk. By the way, I have played lottery before and my risk was very little. Didn't really bother myself with the winners because I wasn't attached to bet... I guess it was because I bet with what I could afford to lose. Every gambling involve in risk taking cause gambling is a game of chance, to answer your question the woman gambled but the best to way to be concern about people safety/responssibly in gambling is to educate them which is what some gambling site does to prevent addict. I am occasional gambler.
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February 04, 2021, 08:46:56 PM |
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Yes high taxes on the winnings is a big problem for me, too. As far as I know my country doesn't have a progressive tax rate. The tax seems to be fixed. But it's still pretty big. Although most of the winnings stay with the winner.
No matter how much the rate is, I don't think that double taxation is fair. If they want to tax the winners, then they should not tax the ticket sales. Now what happens is that first they tax the lottery ticket sales. Then they impose tax on the winners. And finally, if the winner gifts a part of his reward to some of his close relatives or friends, then they have to pay tax on that amount as well. This is absolute lunacy and I hope the governments would look in to it. But with left-leaning governments coming up in many countries around the world, I don't have much hope. in the end: the house always wins. putting it simple: every company is playing at the government's house, so they make the rules and can do whatever they want. I think the same, double taxation is stupid and shouldn't happen, but the only way to change that would be through popular pressure and education. so: hard...
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February 04, 2021, 11:54:19 PM |
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I haven't entered the heart attack stage yet. Every time my basebet is high, it gets cold and my heart moves fast. The dangers of gambling are indeed high enough for the mind or health. right now I better switch to sportbet because I can enjoy enjoying ball / basketball. For slots I am persuaded to always deposit if it is busted and it makes for poor
that is really true, it happens to me too when i bet big, my heart starts beating faster, even when i bet with a small amount on a bet with really high odds and i get close to win it, same thing happens to me, my heart beat raises, winning the lottery and dying right away is like the worst that could happen in life. These happen when betting a high amount in a game the feeling of nervous and when hitting a jackpot they can’t contained their happiness in life. I also experience the same feeling of excitement so sometimes the problem is in a person the emotions can’t be controlled. In case we hit a jackpot we should enjoy our wealth and relax to avoid such incidents.
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February 05, 2021, 05:23:44 AM |
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I haven't entered the heart attack stage yet. Every time my basebet is high, it gets cold and my heart moves fast. The dangers of gambling are indeed high enough for the mind or health. right now I better switch to sportbet because I can enjoy enjoying ball / basketball. For slots I am persuaded to always deposit if it is busted and it makes for poor
that is really true, it happens to me too when i bet big, my heart starts beating faster, even when i bet with a small amount on a bet with really high odds and i get close to win it, same thing happens to me, my heart beat raises, winning the lottery and dying right away is like the worst that could happen in life. These happen when betting a high amount in a game the feeling of nervous and when hitting a jackpot they can’t contained their happiness in life. I also experience the same feeling of excitement so sometimes the problem is in a person the emotions can’t be controlled. In case we hit a jackpot we should enjoy our wealth and relax to avoid such incidents. We should know the impact that we already got in the gambling game, so we know how to prevent a heart attack. It is normal if our heart becomes faster than usual if we bet big, and we must not use that way to gamble. We can bet on a small amount of money, which will not reduce our happiness or excitement when playing the game. So when we can hit the jackpot, we will be ready to feel the big happiness that comes to us, and we can receive the money without a problem. The emotions will be bigger, but we know how to manage the feeling, and we will not get the heart attack.
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February 05, 2021, 08:52:38 AM |
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Yes high taxes on the winnings is a big problem for me, too. As far as I know my country doesn't have a progressive tax rate. The tax seems to be fixed. But it's still pretty big. Although most of the winnings stay with the winner.
No matter how much the rate is, I don't think that double taxation is fair. If they want to tax the winners, then they should not tax the ticket sales. Now what happens is that first they tax the lottery ticket sales. Then they impose tax on the winners. And finally, if the winner gifts a part of his reward to some of his close relatives or friends, then they have to pay tax on that amount as well . This is absolute lunacy and I hope the governments would look in to it. But with left-leaning governments coming up in many countries around the world, I don't have much hope. The bolded is a bit strange and interesting. I wonder why they do that and exactly where does that happen? Are they trying to discourage winners from sharing their wins with others or something l? Anyway, sounds like things that would happen in very controlled societies. I'd probably withdraw the money physically and send to the relatives/others.
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February 05, 2021, 10:42:46 AM |
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Different jurisdictions have different applications of law and even interpretations concerning the law. Here taxes are taken out before the draw occurrs, other places tax you if you take a lump sum, or not if the hold the funds for twenty or thirty years. (Making money off of your winnings in the process).
Better to take a lump sum and enjoy the winnings now.
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February 05, 2021, 11:30:57 AM |
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Different jurisdictions have different applications of law and even interpretations concerning the law. Here taxes are taken out before the draw occurs, other places tax you if you take a lump sum, or not if the hold the funds for twenty or thirty years. (Making money off of your winnings in the process).
Better to take a lump sum and enjoy the winnings now.
It's kinda rare to see a lottery where the tax is taken out before the draw occurs as most of the lottery I've seen are taxed after the winnings. There are options on most lotteries where the winner can either take all his or her winnings in one payment or be paid in a series of amount of time where the taxes are paid differently. The tax if you'd like to receive all your winnings is just one take or payment will a huge amount which is almost half or sometimes half your winnings unlike if you choose to be paid in a series amount of time where the tax is almost nothing. Even if you think that the best choice is to not take everything in one go, but still it isn't. There are many factors that proves that and a simple google search can provide those answers. Anyway, isn't fun to receive everything and enjoy all of it.
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February 05, 2021, 11:49:12 AM |
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I haven't entered the heart attack stage yet. Every time my basebet is high, it gets cold and my heart moves fast. The dangers of gambling are indeed high enough for the mind or health. right now I better switch to sportbet because I can enjoy enjoying ball / basketball. For slots I am persuaded to always deposit if it is busted and it makes for poor
that is really true, it happens to me too when i bet big, my heart starts beating faster, even when i bet with a small amount on a bet with really high odds and i get close to win it, same thing happens to me, my heart beat raises, winning the lottery and dying right away is like the worst that could happen in life. These happen when betting a high amount in a game the feeling of nervous and when hitting a jackpot they can’t contained their happiness in life. I also experience the same feeling of excitement so sometimes the problem is in a person the emotions can’t be controlled. In case we hit a jackpot we should enjoy our wealth and relax to avoid such incidents. Winning a lottery kind of feelings is one of the most unpredictable and super surprising kind of feelings that we may feel. I think headt attack when winning, more over in lottery also when you have a high money put and also with highrisk is that it'll be super happy to win. The excitment feeling in winning in gambling is super unexpressed but imagine the excitement times in winning a lottery. Gambling is such a risk and very dangerous situation but of course, if you don't take the risk, you will not learn and earn. The higher the risk, the more good and positive outcome in the future.
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February 06, 2021, 09:08:19 PM |
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Winning a lottery kind of feelings is one of the most unpredictable and super surprising kind of feelings that we may feel. I think headt attack when winning, more over in lottery also when you have a high money put and also with highrisk is that it'll be super happy to win. The excitment feeling in winning in gambling is super unexpressed but imagine the excitement times in winning a lottery. Gambling is such a risk and very dangerous situation but of course, if you don't take the risk, you will not learn and earn. The higher the risk, the more good and positive outcome in the future.
hahah it really depends, sometimes the higher the risk the higher the loss. never a bad idea to remind that gamblers can (and sometimes do) lose all their money. regarding heart attacks: the best way to mitigate it still good eating and exercising habits.
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February 06, 2021, 10:01:39 PM |
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hahah it really depends, sometimes the higher the risk the higher the loss. never a bad idea to remind that gamblers can (and sometimes do) lose all their money.
regarding heart attacks: the best way to mitigate it still good eating and exercising habits.
*I once read an article that good eating and regular exercise do not make a person avoid the risk of heart disease...the point is just to avoid things that can trigger a shock. I have a neighbor who has never had a history of heart disease but died of a heart attack just because he heard his child divorced. it would be better if old people had avoided the lottery.
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February 06, 2021, 11:39:29 PM |
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hahah it really depends, sometimes the higher the risk the higher the loss. never a bad idea to remind that gamblers can (and sometimes do) lose all their money.
regarding heart attacks: the best way to mitigate it still good eating and exercising habits.
*I once read an article that good eating and regular exercise do not make a person avoid the risk of heart disease...the point is just to avoid things that can trigger a shock. I have a neighbor who has never had a history of heart disease but died of a heart attack just because he heard his child divorced. it would be better if old people had avoided the lottery. Good eating and regular exercise is keep up the body healthy. The mind also needs to be healthy. As said in the statement, when the mind isn't functioning properly automatically the body will lose its control. A sudden shock will make the mind functioning paused for a while. This gets reaction over the body blood circulation and ends with cardiac arrest.
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February 06, 2021, 11:59:33 PM |
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hahah it really depends, sometimes the higher the risk the higher the loss. never a bad idea to remind that gamblers can (and sometimes do) lose all their money.
regarding heart attacks: the best way to mitigate it still good eating and exercising habits.
*I once read an article that good eating and regular exercise do not make a person avoid the risk of heart disease...the point is just to avoid things that can trigger a shock. I have a neighbor who has never had a history of heart disease but died of a heart attack just because he heard his child divorced. it would be better if old people had avoided the lottery. Good eating and regular exercise is keep up the body healthy. The mind also needs to be healthy. As said in the statement, when the mind isn't functioning properly automatically the body will lose its control. A sudden shock will make the mind functioning paused for a while. This gets reaction over the body blood circulation and ends with cardiac arrest. I doubt that this could really happen to a person which is totally fit even if his mental state was in shock but his body would able to compensate and able to withstand that. Usually people do end up on dying with this certain state of condition are to those who do have complicated sickness that they had been carrying for a while and when these kind of news even positive or negative ones which would result into a shock would really be significant. Its just sad that those people wont able to cherish out those big winnings.
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February 07, 2021, 12:18:52 AM |
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It's kinda rare to see a lottery where the tax is taken out before the draw occurs as most of the lottery I've seen are taxed after the winnings. There are options on most lotteries where the winner can either take all his or her winnings in one payment or be paid in a series of amount of time where the taxes are paid differently. The tax if you'd like to receive all your winnings is just one take or payment will a huge amount which is almost half or sometimes half your winnings unlike if you choose to be paid in a series amount of time where the tax is almost nothing. Even if you think that the best choice is to not take everything in one go, but still it isn't. There are many factors that proves that and a simple google search can provide those answers. Anyway, isn't fun to receive everything and enjoy all of it.
There are countries that tax the lottery before the draw? That's kind of news for me. I've always thought that all lotteries taxed it after so that they can profit more of it. Also, isn't it the best choice just to take everything and go? And half of that as tax? Can't really believe that. I mean, the concept of a lottery of winner takes all kinda loses its meaning when lotteries just tax almost half of their winnings in one go. I'm pretty sure the house always wins, but not to that extent.
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