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May 01, 2021, 08:57:59 PM
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Manny Pacquiao challenged Floyd Mayweather once. He accepted that challenge and defeated Pacquiao. Then Pacquiao wanted a rematch, but Mayweather was not in favor saying that he will never fight more than once against the same opponent. The original fight generated huge amount of revenues, and both Pacquiao and Mayweather benefitted from it. But that was 6 years ago. With Pacquiao close to retirement, you can't expect the same amount of hype and revenues.
While both of them have their rumored fight and an actual fight, Pacquiao rumored to fight two fighters that we don't know who's really going to bite.
And Floyd has already an upcoming match against Logan Paul. It's known that Paul just came from a match.
As far as I remember, Mayweather stopped his official career in 2017 and all his subsequent fights are just a show for the audience, which has little to do with the sports component. Therefore, the Pacquiao vs. Mayweather fight is still likely, but for this you need to wait for the official end of Manny Pacquiao's career and after some time later we can see a friendly match, like the recent match of Holyfield and Tyson. However, I do not think that Pacquiao will continue his career for many more years and the match with Terence Crawford will really be one of the last ones that is directly related to professional sports.
I don't have that hope for this push maybe if Pacquiao retires, that would be for Floyd to come and challenge Pacquiao. But is that still going to be possible if Pacquiao have already chosen another career and has no time for boxing anymore?
Because if that match happens, there's no professional record on it and that's likely going to be another showmatch that Floyd does nowadays.

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May 01, 2021, 11:56:57 PM
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I don't have that hope for this push maybe if Pacquiao retires, that would be for Floyd to come and challenge Pacquiao. But is that still going to be possible if Pacquiao have already chosen another career and has no time for boxing anymore?
Because if that match happens, there's no professional record on it and that's likely going to be another showmatch that Floyd does nowadays.
Manny Pacquiao is a politician as well and a full time professional boxer, i believe he retired earlier to concentrate on politics and help people but he came to the conclusion that he needs to raise more money to help everyone and hence he started boxing again as he knows that it is a small window of opportunity to make money.  As a legend of the sport he can still call his shots as he is still fighting at a really high level.
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May 02, 2021, 09:41:04 AM
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They'd be fighting for the chance to fight Manny, that's for sure. Although of course they both have the age advantage that sometimes puts Manny Pacquiao to a standstill. Then again, with proper training and newfound knowledge the pound-for-pound king will be able to beat his opponent by knockout, as it is not usual that he beats opponents by mere scoring, which definitely means that when Manny hits, he hits hard as crap.
His knockout percentage has already dropped, but in the last fight against Thurman, that's a statement that he still has the power, if an opponent is not as durable as Thurman, then we might see a KO win by Manny which will only make the undefeated champions to stay away from him. Manny has matured, he is more careful in fighting now, he knows he is not getting any younger so he is using his experience effectively to win a fight.

He is not getting younger, but he is not that getting weaker if you get what I mean.

That last match is a statement indeed that he still has what it needs, and though it is not win by knock-out, it is still a win. Plus he is not that known for winning by knockouts anyway. He is known for his combination with his left that lands perfectly.

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May 02, 2021, 10:45:58 AM
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They'd be fighting for the chance to fight Manny, that's for sure. Although of course they both have the age advantage that sometimes puts Manny Pacquiao to a standstill. Then again, with proper training and newfound knowledge the pound-for-pound king will be able to beat his opponent by knockout, as it is not usual that he beats opponents by mere scoring, which definitely means that when Manny hits, he hits hard as crap.
His knockout percentage has already dropped, but in the last fight against Thurman, that's a statement that he still has the power, if an opponent is not as durable as Thurman, then we might see a KO win by Manny which will only make the undefeated champions to stay away from him. Manny has matured, he is more careful in fighting now, he knows he is not getting any younger so he is using his experience effectively to win a fight.

He is not getting younger, but he is not that getting weaker if you get what I mean.

That last match is a statement indeed that he still has what it needs, and though it is not win by knock-out, it is still a win. Plus he is not that known for winning by knockouts anyway. He is known for his combination with his left that lands perfectly.

Of course as Manny is going up in weight, he can't just knock out big guys.

His opponents says that Manny's power is underrated though, but they are all in unison that the punch is very fast and throws it in angles thats most of the time they are caught off guard and just goes down.

As for his age, he still proven that he still has it and can beat young guys so that is out of the question. He can beat them with volume punching but his heart and experience.
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May 02, 2021, 12:13:37 PM
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They'd be fighting for the chance to fight Manny, that's for sure. Although of course they both have the age advantage that sometimes puts Manny Pacquiao to a standstill. Then again, with proper training and newfound knowledge the pound-for-pound king will be able to beat his opponent by knockout, as it is not usual that he beats opponents by mere scoring, which definitely means that when Manny hits, he hits hard as crap.
His knockout percentage has already dropped, but in the last fight against Thurman, that's a statement that he still has the power, if an opponent is not as durable as Thurman, then we might see a KO win by Manny which will only make the undefeated champions to stay away from him. Manny has matured, he is more careful in fighting now, he knows he is not getting any younger so he is using his experience effectively to win a fight.

He is not getting younger, but he is not that getting weaker if you get what I mean.

That last match is a statement indeed that he still has what it needs, and though it is not win by knock-out, it is still a win. Plus he is not that known for winning by knockouts anyway. He is known for his combination with his left that lands perfectly.

Of course as Manny is going up in weight, he can't just knock out big guys.

His opponents says that Manny's power is underrated though, but they are all in unison that the punch is very fast and throws it in angles thats most of the time they are caught off guard and just goes down.

As for his age, he still proven that he still has it and can beat young guys so that is out of the question. He can beat them with volume punching but his heart and experience.

There's no doubt, Manny just easily went up and was the first 8 division world champion, that alone should already convince us that Manny knows what he is doing and if he will fight a bigger guy, he knows he has a good chance fo winning.

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May 03, 2021, 04:27:07 AM
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There was a statement from Arnold Vegafria two days back - here is the summary - the fight against Terence Crawford is cancelled, and it will be replaced with a match against Mikey Garcia. The plans are clear, but they need to schedule it without much delay. Because in another year, Pacquiao is running for the presidency of the Philippines. Before that a maximum of two fights are possible (and probably only one). So the fight against Garcia may be the farewell fight for Pacquiao.

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May 03, 2021, 10:12:56 PM
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There was a statement from Arnold Vegafria two days back - here is the summary - the fight against Terence Crawford is cancelled, and it will be replaced with a match against Mikey Garcia. The plans are clear, but they need to schedule it without much delay. Because in another year, Pacquiao is running for the presidency of the Philippines. Before that a maximum of two fights are possible (and probably only one). So the fight against Garcia may be the farewell fight for Pacquiao.
I hope it will not be his farewell fight, and I hope he will not run for the presidency. Pacquiao can make more fights and make more money, he doesn't need to run for Presidency if he wants to help, I believe people would not encourage him to run like a popularity contest is not anymore a big deal in the Philippines, people are voting according to what they think a candidate could contribute, Pacquiao is just not at the level of being a president yet, he still needs to learn more, maybe stay at the senate for a while, or run as VP first.
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There was a statement from Arnold Vegafria two days back - here is the summary - the fight against Terence Crawford is cancelled, and it will be replaced with a match against Mikey Garcia. The plans are clear, but they need to schedule it without much delay. Because in another year, Pacquiao is running for the presidency of the Philippines. Before that a maximum of two fights are possible (and probably only one). So the fight against Garcia may be the farewell fight for Pacquiao.
I hope it will not be his farewell fight, and I hope he will not run for the presidency. Pacquiao can make more fights and make more money, he doesn't need to run for Presidency if he wants to help, I believe people would not encourage him to run like a popularity contest is not anymore a big deal in the Philippines, people are voting according to what they think a candidate could contribute, Pacquiao is just not at the level of being a president yet, he still needs to learn more, maybe stay at the senate for a while, or run as VP first.
President? I dont think that it will fit him out, not to discriminate about capacities but we can actually tell that he wont really be enough on running an entire country.So better to focus on what
he had on the current position in the senate and not try to run for presidency because people arent that blind when it comes on choosing their leaders.Yes, this guy is well known but
doesnt mean that he would run off into those positions on where it isnt really his main line of career and with comes to knowledge then it wont really be that enough.

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May 05, 2021, 04:47:03 PM
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^^^ If you remember how long Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao were teasing about fighting each other even when they were supposed to fight when they were in their prime but they avoided to fight each other and tested the patience of the fans for years and finally they faced each other when they both crossed their prime career and in during the event Manny Pacquiao was injured going into the fight and i think as a fan we need better and if they are willing to fight again the fans will pay to watch the fight as it is more interesting than any other fight.
We understand that fighters want to hype fights as much as possible since they want to receive the most revenue, that makes sense but things have gotten out of hand for a long time, it was obvious to all that Manny and Floyd were avoiding each other just to generate hype and all of this would have been fine if the fight was spectacular but instead we got a boring fight among two fighters past their prime, people were mad about this and with reason which is why there is never going to be another fight among those two fighters.

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May 05, 2021, 04:55:19 PM
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^^^ If you remember how long Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao were teasing about fighting each other even when they were supposed to fight when they were in their prime but they avoided to fight each other and tested the patience of the fans for years and finally they faced each other when they both crossed their prime career and in during the event Manny Pacquiao was injured going into the fight and i think as a fan we need better and if they are willing to fight again the fans will pay to watch the fight as it is more interesting than any other fight.
We understand that fighters want to hype fights as much as possible since they want to receive the most revenue, that makes sense but things have gotten out of hand for a long time, it was obvious to all that Manny and Floyd were avoiding each other just to generate hype and all of this would have been fine if the fight was spectacular but instead we got a boring fight among two fighters past their prime, people were mad about this and with reason which is why there is never going to be another fight among those two fighters.

Fans interest matters, if promoters unable to see the same volumes of people who are still calling for this rematch, for the sake of money the chance even slim still possible.

But like what you have said, the last fight boring audiences and fans, that makes them less interest dealing with the rematch.

Without fans participations, even promotions and advertisement are really doing well the chance of closing the deal difinitely hard
as both camps have demands which may possibly can't provide by the promoters..

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May 06, 2021, 01:41:08 PM
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^^^ If you remember how long Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao were teasing about fighting each other even when they were supposed to fight when they were in their prime but they avoided to fight each other and tested the patience of the fans for years and finally they faced each other when they both crossed their prime career and in during the event Manny Pacquiao was injured going into the fight and i think as a fan we need better and if they are willing to fight again the fans will pay to watch the fight as it is more interesting than any other fight.
We understand that fighters want to hype fights as much as possible since they want to receive the most revenue, that makes sense but things have gotten out of hand for a long time, it was obvious to all that Manny and Floyd were avoiding each other just to generate hype and all of this would have been fine if the fight was spectacular but instead we got a boring fight among two fighters past their prime, people were mad about this and with reason which is why there is never going to be another fight among those two fighters.

Fans interest matters, if promoters unable to see the same volumes of people who are still calling for this rematch, for the sake of money the chance even slim still possible.

But like what you have said, the last fight boring audiences and fans, that makes them less interest dealing with the rematch.

Without fans participations, even promotions and advertisement are really doing well the chance of closing the deal difinitely hard
as both camps have demands which may possibly can't provide by the promoters..

That was a long time ago, maybe after the fight people were a bit disappointed, but over time they slowly forget it and now want to see a rematch. It's in a different situation this time,  Mayweather is retired, while Pacman is still active, so most likely the favorite will be Pacman.
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May 06, 2021, 09:40:32 PM
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Mayweather is retired, while Pacman is still active, so most likely the favorite will be Pacman.

Most probably, but I'd love to see fair odds so it would attract both fighters easily.
We have a huge fan base for Mayweather and Pacquiao and definitely, people will take about this rematch.

No fight for Manny this year against Spence Jr. and Crawford, then he should go for a bigger fight if he is aiming to retire soon, to focus on his political dreams. it's been in the news that he will run for the presidency in the Philippines, that alone requires money, time, and effort, he will have no time in boxing anymore once the campaign starts.

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Most probably, but I'd love to see fair odds so it would attract both fighters easily.
We have a huge fan base for Mayweather and Pacquiao and definitely, people will take about this rematch.

Honestly, I don't think that there is any point in beating the dead horse again and again. Floyd made it clear many years ago that he is not in favor of a rematch. He is retired from boxing and right now he is not even doing exhibition fights. Also, in general the interest in boxing community for such a rematch has waned. In the unlikely scenario of Floyd agreeing for a rematch, it would have easily garnered more than $300 million two years back. But now the situation has changed and even if such a fight occurs, it is likely to generate only a fraction of that amount.

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It will be stupendous fight if ever this will be pushed through this year. Manny Pacquiao has a good reputation in boxing. His matches were always worth watching because he has the moves and the skills of a professional boxer (does not escape punches often compared to other boxers lol). Sorry to offend, but I'm not really fond of watching the opponent that keeps on running to avoid the strikes. I want an aggressive and intense match because it's much more entertaining to watch. Pacquiao fighting with a boxer that has almost the same level and has a title is definitely a must see.

Meanwhile, Terence Crawford also has a nice reputation in boxing which makes me consider watching if ever their fight will happen in the future. Crawford is considered to be next in line with Canelo Alvarez. I think he can still demand for a higher professional fee for their match. If ever, that will be his highest pay offer during his career as a boxer. If I were him, I'll never let such opportunity slip away my hands. After all, this can also serve as their stress-reliever now that we're facing a pandemic crisis.
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Meanwhile, Terence Crawford also has a nice reputation in boxing which makes me consider watching if ever their fight will happen in the future. Crawford is considered to be next in line with Canelo Alvarez. I think he can still demand for a higher professional fee for their match. If ever, that will be his highest pay offer during his career as a boxer. If I were him, I'll never let such opportunity slip away my hands. After all, this can also serve as their stress-reliever now that we're facing a pandemic crisis.
I doubt he will be the next if he is not fighting champions, Crawford is I think overrated, he has to fight Spence first and prove that he really is the best in his division, if he only fought Manny Pacquiao, then we might see if he can really handle a caliber fighter, but it's unfortunate it didn't happen.
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I don't have that hope for this push maybe if Pacquiao retires, that would be for Floyd to come and challenge Pacquiao. But is that still going to be possible if Pacquiao have already chosen another career and has no time for boxing anymore?
Because if that match happens, there's no professional record on it and that's likely going to be another showmatch that Floyd does nowadays.
Manny Pacquiao is a politician as well and a full time professional boxer, i believe he retired earlier to concentrate on politics and help people but he came to the conclusion that he needs to raise more money to help everyone and hence he started boxing again as he knows that it is a small window of opportunity to make money.  As a legend of the sport he can still call his shots as he is still fighting at a really high level.
I don't think he did ever retired. He has never said that he's on retirement and just like Floyd who came out of his retirement and still raking money from exhibition matches.
He knows that there's a big money if ever he match, he won't care anymore if he's going to win or not because every match he does, there's already the contract of cut and portion that will go to him regardless of the result.

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I don't have that hope for this push maybe if Pacquiao retires, that would be for Floyd to come and challenge Pacquiao. But is that still going to be possible if Pacquiao have already chosen another career and has no time for boxing anymore?
Because if that match happens, there's no professional record on it and that's likely going to be another showmatch that Floyd does nowadays.
Manny Pacquiao is a politician as well and a full time professional boxer, i believe he retired earlier to concentrate on politics and help people but he came to the conclusion that he needs to raise more money to help everyone and hence he started boxing again as he knows that it is a small window of opportunity to make money.  As a legend of the sport he can still call his shots as he is still fighting at a really high level.
I don't think he did ever retired. He has never said that he's on retirement and just like Floyd who came out of his retirement and still raking money from exhibition matches.
He knows that there's a big money if ever he match, he won't care anymore if he's going to win or not because every match he does, there's already the contract of cut and portion that will go to him regardless of the result.
He is a fighting senator, he did not retire in boxing, now he is running for a higher position and I believe there's a condition on him, if he will win, maybe he will fully retire in boxing, but if not, he will just continue fighting. The exhibition matches make it easy for Manny to make more money, as even if he will retire, his popularity is still here and he can fight the exhibition fight, and we might see the rematch of Mayweather vs Manny in the exhibition fight.

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He is a fighting senator, he did not retire in boxing, now he is running for a higher position and I believe there's a condition on him, if he will win, maybe he will fully retire in boxing, but if not, he will just continue fighting. The exhibition matches make it easy for Manny to make more money, as even if he will retire, his popularity is still here and he can fight the exhibition fight, and we might see the rematch of Mayweather vs Manny in the exhibition fight.

Or it will be cooler if he will become the fighting president.

Actually, Manny did not talk about retirement yet, we are just concluding things that he will retire, and besides, there's no assurance that he will win in case he will really pursue running for Presidency.  Manny is gonna make history here, a fighting President that can beat a champion, we haven't seen that in our life yet, but the question is, how would it affect his reputation on the way he handles his nation?

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May 08, 2021, 10:03:59 PM
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I don't have that hope for this push maybe if Pacquiao retires, that would be for Floyd to come and challenge Pacquiao. But is that still going to be possible if Pacquiao have already chosen another career and has no time for boxing anymore?
Because if that match happens, there's no professional record on it and that's likely going to be another showmatch that Floyd does nowadays.
Manny Pacquiao is a politician as well and a full time professional boxer, i believe he retired earlier to concentrate on politics and help people but he came to the conclusion that he needs to raise more money to help everyone and hence he started boxing again as he knows that it is a small window of opportunity to make money.  As a legend of the sport he can still call his shots as he is still fighting at a really high level.
I don't think he did ever retired. He has never said that he's on retirement and just like Floyd who came out of his retirement and still raking money from exhibition matches.
He knows that there's a big money if ever he match, he won't care anymore if he's going to win or not because every match he does, there's already the contract of cut and portion that will go to him regardless of the result.
He is a fighting senator, he did not retire in boxing, now he is running for a higher position and I believe there's a condition on him, if he will win, maybe he will fully retire in boxing, but if not, he will just continue fighting. The exhibition matches make it easy for Manny to make more money, as even if he will retire, his popularity is still here and he can fight the exhibition fight, and we might see the rematch of Mayweather vs Manny in the exhibition fight.
Yes, that's why I can't remember that he officially said that he's retired. But many doubts have been shared that he's unlikely to win with his desire for a higher position.
Or it will be cooler if he will become the fighting president.
Cool as it is but in politics, that will make him a laughingstock.

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May 09, 2021, 12:37:10 PM
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Why this thread is still up? From what I heard, the fight between Manny Pacquiao and Terence Crawford is called off and now Pacquiao is trying to arrange a match with Garcia. Or is there any chance of this match going ahead, as planned earlier? A week back, Bob Arum explicitly stated that this fight was "dead". And he further made it clear that the fight couldn't realize due to disputes related to the purse. I don't want to comment on the purse, and don't want to say whether it was too low or too high. But mark my words - the chances of Pacquiao getting a fight this year is low. He demands too much, and now the circumstances are not exactly suited for bargaining.
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