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March 05, 2021, 11:36:35 PM
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Most people are very greedy, man. So i don't see here any reason to be surprised. Top payed sportsmen are often promote some scummy services or even shady casinos, because of money (this is in post USSR countries, where law is doesn't work). And as i see now, in normal countries this happens constantly too. Because of greed.

Maybe a sad but this was a reality that sometimes every game especially a high valued game was been manipulated and corruption in sports couldn't be avoided. And yes its true that even the players were involved for fixing a game and it was all because of the money involve or the greediness of those people behind the scummy services. I couldn't think of how its gonna be prevented because as a human nature, as long as the call of needs and wants hunts the greedy people wouldn't change for good.
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Most people are very greedy, man. So i don't see here any reason to be surprised. Top payed sportsmen are often promote some scummy services or even shady casinos, because of money (this is in post USSR countries, where law is doesn't work). And as i see now, in normal countries this happens constantly too. Because of greed.

Maybe a sad but this was a reality that sometimes every game especially a high valued game was been manipulated and corruption in sports couldn't be avoided. And yes its true that even the players were involved for fixing a game and it was all because of the money involve or the greediness of those people behind the scummy services. I couldn't think of how its gonna be prevented because as a human nature, as long as the call of needs and wants hunts the greedy people wouldn't change for good.

Greed is human nature, so it is hard to avoid these circumstances. There will always be the bad guy here. They have their own reasons why they choose to do this kind of dirty game. And no one can prevent it from happening because that's the way it is. We can't totally eradicate this bad behaviour in the sports industry.

We have greed, but we also have a chance to prevent greed become bigger by controlling ourselves not to chase more than we already got, especially if we don't have much chance to get it more. Related to the sportsmen, I think if they can control themselves and realizes that the money is from people who do corruption, they should not accept it, and even they must stay away from those people. They don't deserve to get that problem, especially if they already got money from that sport. It is difficult to eradicate that thing, and I am afraid that is also happening in the other fields.
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March 06, 2021, 05:04:14 AM
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In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto.
i think that is Politician and not Governments? but Good to hear from you that you have corrupt government lol.
Promising everything just to fool you in election day.
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Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.
accept it that there are also Vote Buying happening right?
so expect they will win on that way.
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Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.
I think this points are valid only in basketball and not the whole sports community right?
Because i heard about this and i even talk to one key player and he admit that some time he had received huge offers just to bring down the game.









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March 06, 2021, 06:09:52 AM
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Well generally they say that they will eliminate corruption but mostly in the government but not in sports.
I think sports corruption in your country is sever since it's been discussed in the election campaign and one of the things to consider solving.
Well corruption is everywhere and no surprise that even in sports there's a corruption.

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March 06, 2021, 09:23:58 AM
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Well generally they say that they will eliminate corruption but mostly in the government but not in sports.
I agree with that as usually sports are private, hence it involves private funds but in government, that's people's money and that should be the main responsibility of the government to protect the people's money.

I think sports corruption in your country is sever since it's been discussed in the election campaign and one of the things to consider solving.
Well corruption is everywhere and no surprise that even in sports there's a corruption.
And it will not be solve since greedy people will remain and I don't read any news that a certain sports is suspended due to correction. It means this is just an isolated one.
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March 06, 2021, 02:44:30 PM
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Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Not key players but low salary players are likely to get involve in game fixing, if you are a high profile players who still has many years to play and earn big bucks, I don't think you will involve yourself to game fixing, there are game fixing because there are syndicate that can offer big amounts of money to players who cannot earn what these syndicate can offer.

it most happened with key players, as huge money is involve coming from mafias who are dealing with this business.

You can't remove the fact that key players are really influenced the tempo of the game, with them participated with game fixing it
surely gives the sysdicate a sure win.

Profits flowing from side to side of the gambling business, it exist but mostly not being proven.

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March 06, 2021, 07:01:13 PM
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Most people are very greedy, man. So i don't see here any reason to be surprised. Top payed sportsmen are often promote some scummy services or even shady casinos, because of money (this is in post USSR countries, where law is doesn't work). And as i see now, in normal countries this happens constantly too. Because of greed.

 
Now you can see bookmakers' advertisements everywhere. Because they pay a lot. Last year there was a resonance because one of the Premier League clubs advertised a bookmaker, namely 1xbet. I think you've heard of it. Although they have no licenses and it was founded by former police officers from Russia. They now live in Cyprus because they have criminal cases against them in Russia. But this has no effect on the bookmaker's operations.



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March 06, 2021, 07:40:11 PM
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Most people are very greedy, man. So i don't see here any reason to be surprised. Top payed sportsmen are often promote some scummy services or even shady casinos, because of money (this is in post USSR countries, where law is doesn't work). And as i see now, in normal countries this happens constantly too. Because of greed.
Now you can see bookmakers' advertisements everywhere. Because they pay a lot. Last year there was a resonance because one of the Premier League clubs advertised a bookmaker, namely 1xbet. I think you've heard of it. Although they have no licenses and it was founded by former police officers from Russia. They now live in Cyprus because they have criminal cases against them in Russia. But this has no effect on the bookmaker's operations.
And this is why we do still see this thing up to this day in spite of those issues that 1xbet has. Someone does have the protection and it cant really be simply taken down as long it does have that kind of treatment.

Corruption is always been a pain in the ass common reality on this world.For those who can really bribe out then they are  the ones who would really have an advantage on things.

Sportsmen involved on match fixing? This isnt something new anymore.
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March 07, 2021, 05:35:44 AM
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Corruption and sports and now even e-sports have become familiar to each other.

There are several instances where some individuals will sell a match for small amounts of money, as you can see here how a growing team threw away a game in such a bizarre manner that a streamer said "If this match is not fixed, I will eat shit on stream" and it was quite obvious why he said that, because the game was actually fixed and in the manner they lost, was quite egregious.

You can read more about it HERE.

There are other instances as well but another instance of match fixing happening at high level is HERE and for those who don't know LPL is one of the biggest leagues in LOL esports.

In regular sports, match-fixing is often not as obvious because the players doing it are mature and very experienced so there aren't as many obvious cases. But even then some are caught and although no clear evidence, I almost agree on this one HERE exposing Verdasco.

Nothing can be done about it and as a gambler I am not too worried because at times maybe the match is fixed towards my side fortunately Grin.
And just as there is match fixing there is also cheating and this is incredibly difficult to avoid especially in e-sports, there have been many scandals of players using hacks that allows them to get information that will be otherwise impossible for them to know and take advantage while they are playing to outright modifications of the game code so they can get an unfair advantage over other players, it seems they do not realize that the more they cheat the less reason people have to actually watch them play anymore.
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March 07, 2021, 05:48:45 AM
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Corruption has invaded all spheres of our life and sports is no exception because a lot of money is made in this area. The saddest thing is that if an athlete refuses to cooperate with his superiors according to his ideological principles, he will simply be replaced by another and his career will be ruined. So I'm not surprised that some athlete is advertising a shady casino.

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March 07, 2021, 07:30:32 AM
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Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Most people are very greedy, man. So i don't see here any reason to be surprised. Top payed sportsmen are often promote some scummy services or even shady casinos, because of money (this is in post USSR countries, where law is doesn't work). And as i see now, in normal countries this happens constantly too. Because of greed.

No matter how hard any government will try to eliminate the corruption in sports, they can simply cannot put it to a complete stop. There are many ways of corruption on the sports like giving your near dear ones opportunities to represent for your country when there are better talent avaible. Also fixed matches are the result of corruption in sports.
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March 07, 2021, 07:46:41 AM
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Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Most people are very greedy, man. So i don't see here any reason to be surprised. Top payed sportsmen are often promote some scummy services or even shady casinos, because of money (this is in post USSR countries, where law is doesn't work). And as i see now, in normal countries this happens constantly too. Because of greed.

No matter how hard any government will try to eliminate the corruption in sports, they can simply cannot put it to a complete stop. There are many ways of corruption on the sports like giving your near dear ones opportunities to represent for your country when there are better talent avaible. Also fixed matches are the result of corruption in sports.
Governments are the core element behind corruption, because it starts from the top order. Maybe a politician or someone in high profile using his influence will give way for an average player get elected into the team. The first mistake further keeps disturbing the entire system, and finally the scenario gets a transition that ability can't give you opportunity. Money and ability altogether will give you opportunity. This needs to change and it is in the hands of government in my view.

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March 07, 2021, 07:53:53 AM
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Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Most people are very greedy, man. So i don't see here any reason to be surprised. Top payed sportsmen are often promote some scummy services or even shady casinos, because of money (this is in post USSR countries, where law is doesn't work). And as i see now, in normal countries this happens constantly too. Because of greed.

No matter how hard any government will try to eliminate the corruption in sports, they can simply cannot put it to a complete stop. There are many ways of corruption on the sports like giving your near dear ones opportunities to represent for your country when there are better talent avaible. Also fixed matches are the result of corruption in sports.
Governments are the core element behind corruption, because it starts from the top order. Maybe a politician or someone in high profile using his influence will give way for an average player get elected into the team. The first mistake further keeps disturbing the entire system, and finally the scenario gets a transition that ability can't give you opportunity. Money and ability altogether will give you opportunity. This needs to change and it is in the hands of government in my view.

And unfortunately, I don't think the situation will change anytime soon. This is already like innate to the system. Since the beginning of human history, corruption was already there, it may be in different form but already a part of our history. What we can do in this situation, is don't be a part of it if you already know that something wrong is going on. If you can't change them, at least don't let yourself eaten by the system.
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March 07, 2021, 07:54:32 AM
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Corruption has invaded all spheres of our life and sports is no exception because a lot of money is made in this area. The saddest thing is that if an athlete refuses to cooperate with his superiors according to his ideological principles, he will simply be replaced by another and his career will be ruined. So I'm not surprised that some athlete is advertising a shady casino.

The sad fact that corruption has become a part of human life, this all started from uncontrollable greed. There are very many cases of corruption
occurring in the world of sports in various countries around the world. Moreover, sports gambling can be a source of income for some corruptors.
By adjusting the referee's decision or even paying some athletes in order to fix the result of the match. It is annoying to know that corruptors have
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March 07, 2021, 08:08:51 AM
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Corruption has invaded all spheres of our life and sports is no exception because a lot of money is made in this area. The saddest thing is that if an athlete refuses to cooperate with his superiors according to his ideological principles, he will simply be replaced by another and his career will be ruined. So I'm not surprised that some athlete is advertising a shady casino.

The sad fact that corruption has become a part of human life, this all started from uncontrollable greed. There are very many cases of corruption
occurring in the world of sports in various countries around the world. Moreover, sports gambling can be a source of income for some corruptors.
By adjusting the referee's decision or even paying some athletes in order to fix the result of the match. It is annoying to know that corruptors have
damaged sportsmanship in the world of sports. The crime of corruptors must be given the heaviest punishment.
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I agree, people are looking for ways to make a profit. And if they can get rich quickly they tend to do illegal things. In my opinion there should be stronger laws against corruption. There are probably aot of cases that never get reported of become public. Only the really big cases that are being prosecuted are made public. It would be interesting to know how much money the ordinary gambler lost to corruption. I mean even the Romans 2000 years ago had a problem with corruption.
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March 07, 2021, 08:34:36 AM
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Well generally they say that they will eliminate corruption but mostly in the government but not in sports.
I think sports corruption in your country is sever since it's been discussed in the election campaign and one of the things to consider solving.
Well corruption is everywhere and no surprise that even in sports there's a corruption.

The fact that removing corruption from sports is an election issue means the country takes the spirit and goal of sports seriously, which many countries doesn't have such system. I guess, these are real issues, sports, development, income, education, on which a country should look into. Corruption is indeed everywhere but so does its remedy. Just rising the pay check of the sportsmen can reduce such corruption to a lot of level.
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March 07, 2021, 09:56:10 AM
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Well generally they say that they will eliminate corruption but mostly in the government but not in sports.
I think sports corruption in your country is sever since it's been discussed in the election campaign and one of the things to consider solving.
Well corruption is everywhere and no surprise that even in sports there's a corruption.

The fact that removing corruption from sports is an election issue means the country takes the spirit and goal of sports seriously, which many countries doesn't have such system. I guess, these are real issues, sports, development, income, education, on which a country should look into. Corruption is indeed everywhere but so does its remedy. Just rising the pay check of the sportsmen can reduce such corruption to a lot of level.
It is hard to removing corruption which already rooted in the country, and that needs time to have a clean government and in many aspects. We can not deny that corruption will continue to happen in that aspect, but we have a chance to limit their access by having clean officers. Rising the sportsmen's paycheck can be a solution, but do not forget that even if they have a high paycheck, that will not guarantee they will not corrupt because that will be related to the sportsmen and other people mentality.

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March 07, 2021, 10:33:38 AM
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Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game fixing is happening in every country.

That's correct. Here in my country is the same, we have real corruption cases not only in the first country League division, but we also have real corruption cases on minor leagues if they are included in the betting platforms and where you can earn money betting. It is sad but even the football players are mixed in this business and some of them have been arrested in the latest months. We will have more corruption on these sports where you can participate and bet your money, that's clear, we will never see corruption in a beach tennis match, as far as they are not into these bet platforms. It is really sad but it is the reality.

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March 07, 2021, 11:42:04 AM
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Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game fixing is happening in every country.

That's correct. Here in my country is the same, we have real corruption cases not only in the first country League division, but we also have real corruption cases on minor leagues if they are included in the betting platforms and where you can earn money betting. It is sad but even the football players are mixed in this business and some of them have been arrested in the latest months. We will have more corruption on these sports where you can participate and bet your money, that's clear, we will never see corruption in a beach tennis match, as far as they are not into these bet platforms. It is really sad but it is the reality.
If the corruption is too obvious, I guess the government should look into that, it cannot be that way as it will destroy the sports the fans love. That's why gambling is illegal in some countries because they know with gambling, sports can be influence and rigging or game fixing will come in.

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March 07, 2021, 11:51:47 AM
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Especially at a low level, players are easier to master and there is corruption. Especially in matches with individual players, without a team. In tennis, a lot has happened with match fixing in the past.

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