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September 12, 2021, 11:40:49 AM
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yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.
We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.
That's full greediness, corruption usually came inside, may it be coming from the management, the players, or the refs of the game. I followed basketball most of the time, and there's a theory that says NBA is corrupt, and I somehow believe in that but there's no proof that it's really corrupt by rigging games.

Actually, sports are so corrupt more than we ever see, that's the reality.

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September 12, 2021, 12:55:53 PM
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yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.
We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.
That's full greediness, corruption usually came inside, may it be coming from the management, the players, or the refs of the game. I followed basketball most of the time, and there's a theory that says NBA is corrupt, and I somehow believe in that but there's no proof that it's really corrupt by rigging games.

Actually, sports are so corrupt more than we ever see, that's the reality.

The reality that we cannot prove due to conspiracy inside, and sports is own by private businesses, so they'll always protect their interest which is to make money, and they can only do that if they will make their sport popular and continue to maintain the good reputation.

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September 12, 2021, 01:18:25 PM
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yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.
We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.
That's full greediness, corruption usually came inside, may it be coming from the management, the players, or the refs of the game. I followed basketball most of the time, and there's a theory that says NBA is corrupt, and I somehow believe in that but there's no proof that it's really corrupt by rigging games.

Actually, sports are so corrupt more than we ever see, that's the reality.

The reality that we cannot prove due to conspiracy inside, and sports is own by private businesses, so they'll always protect their interest which is to make money, and they can only do that if they will make their sport popular and continue to maintain the good reputation.
Corruptions are every where and yes those business owners will not take such risk if they are just gonna lose money because even if they didn't win the title, they still make money. I'm pretty sure many officers are into corruption as well especially if a team is suffering financially, now that we are still in pandemic, many teams are suffering yet they can still survive simply because the owners are making a good deal with other people, we may not have the proof but corruption is indeed happening.
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September 12, 2021, 01:28:01 PM
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As far as I know, the only working way (at least from the bookmaker's side) is to look at the volume of bets. If the volume is sharply higher than the average for a regular match (we exclude top events), then such a match is often considered suspicious and bets are returned to all those who have already made them.
Have you came across that scenario where the bets you made were voided. I got bets getting voided but usually those are issues with the bookmaker and not because of manipulation and leaked outcomes. Even if there is corruption in sport you wont be knowing about it until years when there is an investigation that exposes them and by that time nothing changes in the bets you made.

No, but I hear about such cases every year. Obviously, the cancellation of bets for such reasons applies to low-level games and events - for example, in the Champions League it is almost impossible because there are no match-fixing there due to the fact that at a high level there is no economic sense in cheating.

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September 12, 2021, 02:21:02 PM
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yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.
We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.
That's full greediness, corruption usually came inside, may it be coming from the management, the players, or the refs of the game. I followed basketball most of the time, and there's a theory that says NBA is corrupt, and I somehow believe in that but there's no proof that it's really corrupt by rigging games.

Actually, sports are so corrupt more than we ever see, that's the reality.
We might have seen many people involved in the sports organization do corruption without others or the public knowing. But fortunately, the media can blow up that case because someone reports the case so the corrupt people can get arrest and get punishment. But still, it is hard to eliminate the corruption that happens in the country as that happened a long time ago. But I believe that it is just a matter of time before all of them get caught and no one is trying to do corruption. Even if some people are trying to corrupt, they will get caught too sooner or later.

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September 12, 2021, 04:07:51 PM
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In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

For some of the people it's the only way to earn something credible which they do not have to pay a shit loads of money from and for them it comes guilt free since they are not getting caught, they are using their freedom in this sector to make easy money since sometimes the money which is generally given go them by the government is not enough..

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We do not know the reason but it's something that will continue for the future as well until and unless we have better laws in place.

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September 12, 2021, 05:18:38 PM
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In terms of corruption, it is true, this is really like it can't be destroyed, in any field. Even there is happening on the athletes, institutions, clubs, and so on. More if this has been like being a habit. We cannot stop it 100%.

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich?



Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.
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September 12, 2021, 05:26:28 PM
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Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.
It's always been corruption that they do when there's big money involved. There really is unfairness in many things and these corrupt people don't think of being fair with others.

That's why in many things including in sports, they tend to corrupt anything that they can because it is easy for them to do.

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September 12, 2021, 05:54:48 PM
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Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.

But corruption is also only possible when there are hardly any rules and monitoring measures. Normally, corruption should hardly exist in developed countries nowadays. But in fact, there are always surprising revelations that show it is still widespread. FIFA can be cited as a good example. Without corruption, the awarding of the World Cup to Qatar would not have happened.
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September 12, 2021, 06:26:29 PM
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Commercialization and corruption have also started burning in the stadium instead of developing sports, it has become a matter of financial transactions and trade no one thinks through entertainment that everyone is starting a new business. Making money is their main goal so corruption is engulfing everything people are willing to do bad things for money each team and their members are playing for money.
The problem of corruption in sport did not just started today. It has started since previous centuries and nobody was ready to fight against it. The rate at which sport corruption is happening in this recent time is alarming  even in the bigger sports where big transactions are made. Corruption are not really noticed because many persons decide to pay more attention on government issues maybe they think it's the main source of corruption but sports do have there own share of the cake.

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September 12, 2021, 07:09:23 PM
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In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Yes, match-fixing is very common these days.  Corruption is very difficult to defeat. 

What is the reason for the ineradicability of corruption (including in sports)? 

Now the most widespread social system on planet Earth is capitalism.  Capitalism prioritizes profit. 

However, if the most important thing in the world is profit, then this means that honor, dignity, professionalism are not very important.  It is important to get money (profit).  In my opinion, this is a distortion of moral and ethical values. 

This distortion leads to the fact that match-fixing is perceived as a type of business.  And that's bad.

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September 12, 2021, 08:00:19 PM
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Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.
It's always been corruption that they do when there's big money involved. There really is unfairness in many things and these corrupt people don't think of being fair with others.

That's why in many things including in sports, they tend to corrupt anything that they can because it is easy for them to do.

Corruptions dictate many things as there is a huge amount of money that involves,

It's hard to terminate this business since there are still many  people who are willingly embracing this system, not just for sports but in vast majorities, corruption is present.

I would like to believe from the post above you that there are still honest people who want fairness in their business, while others
continue to entertain corruption. let's wish for more people to realize and stop this dishonesty.

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after living day to day athletes forget the reason why they love the sport they are in and it happens to athletes all over the world
the government will not be able to stop corruption in sports because the funds circulating there are very large

in my own country corruption in sports, especially football is very big, even they openly show their corrupt behavior
most of their political promises are bullshit

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Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.
It's always been corruption that they do when there's big money involved. There really is unfairness in many things and these corrupt people don't think of being fair with others.

That's why in many things including in sports, they tend to corrupt anything that they can because it is easy for them to do.

Corruptions dictate many things as there is a huge amount of money that involves,

It's hard to terminate this business since there are still many  people who are willingly embracing this system, not just for sports but in vast majorities, corruption is present.

I would like to believe from the post above you that there are still honest people who want fairness in their business, while others
continue to entertain corruption. let's wish for more people to realize and stop this dishonesty.
Corruption isn't a business.

Well, it might be already the business treatment for those corrupt people that are inside the sports org or any agency where they belong.

There are those people that makes it as a business already and they've became used to it with how much money they can make from it.

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Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.
It's always been corruption that they do when there's big money involved. There really is unfairness in many things and these corrupt people don't think of being fair with others.

That's why in many things including in sports, they tend to corrupt anything that they can because it is easy for them to do.

Corruptions dictate many things as there is a huge amount of money that involves,

It's hard to terminate this business since there are still many  people who are willingly embracing this system, not just for sports but in vast majorities, corruption is present.

I would like to believe from the post above you that there are still honest people who want fairness in their business, while others
continue to entertain corruption. let's wish for more people to realize and stop this dishonesty.
Corruption isn't a business.

Well, it might be already the business treatment for those corrupt people that are inside the sports org or any agency where they belong.

There are those people that makes it as a business already and they've became used to it with how much money they can make from it.

The main reason why corruption happens in sports is the big money stake in it, make sports betting illegal and there will be no more corruption. The sports betting industry as reported is a billion-dollar industry, with that huge money, I think greedy people will be interested in taking their share, and that is using their influence for their personal benefit.

Though this doesn't look like a big crime as no life was taken, it should be treated the same since it's stealing the real entertainment of what the fans deserved and the fans made this league run profitably because of their support.

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September 12, 2021, 09:51:52 PM
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The main reason why corruption happens in sports is the big money stake in it, make sports betting illegal and there will be no more corruption. The sports betting industry as reported is a billion-dollar industry, with that huge money, I think greedy people will be interested in taking their share, and that is using their influence for their personal benefit.
I think anything that involves money is prone to corruption, there is big money in the gambling industry that can make them become rich when they know how to play with it. Everywhere there are too many greedy people that they think that sometimes manipulating by their own power will give them huge benefits and that is why we can't deny that there is corruption even in gambling because this is a common practice from our political people.

Political power plus huge money can manipulate and create corruption not even in gambling.

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September 12, 2021, 10:01:38 PM
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Corruption is the easiest way that they know to get richer which is too unfair especially to hardworking athletes and people who involve in sports. However, there are still trustworthy people who work fairly. We can't stop corruption but let's hope that more honest people in the world of sports would exist.
It's always been corruption that they do when there's big money involved. There really is unfairness in many things and these corrupt people don't think of being fair with others.

That's why in many things including in sports, they tend to corrupt anything that they can because it is easy for them to do.

Corruptions dictate many things as there is a huge amount of money that involves,

It's hard to terminate this business since there are still many  people who are willingly embracing this system, not just for sports but in vast majorities, corruption is present.

I would like to believe from the post above you that there are still honest people who want fairness in their business, while others
continue to entertain corruption. let's wish for more people to realize and stop this dishonesty.
Corruption isn't a business.

Well, it might be already the business treatment for those corrupt people that are inside the sports org or any agency where they belong.

There are those people that makes it as a business already and they've became used to it with how much money they can make from it.

And getting out of the situation will downgrade their lifestyle, so, they choose to keep what they are doing despite of being unacceptable in the society. They can't let go because they may not sustain their lifestyle by doing so. So in short, it is greed in play here. And I believe, we can't really avoid this in any government agency, so sports organization or government agency is not excluded from this practice.
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September 12, 2021, 10:19:20 PM
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With due respect, political manifestos usually have many promises, lots of wishful thinking and plenty of stuff that politicians hope that people forget when it comes to putting it in practice. Still, it is interesting that there is an specific point on corruption in sports and I would not be inclined to think that they are pointing to betting, but rather to a more general objective of reducing money laundering and bad practice in general. Governments rarely care about honesty in betting other than basic regulations.

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The main reason why corruption happens in sports is the big money stake in it, make sports betting illegal and there will be no more corruption. The sports betting industry as reported is a billion-dollar industry, with that huge money, I think greedy people will be interested in taking their share, and that is using their influence for their personal benefit.
I think anything that involves money is prone to corruption, there is big money in the gambling industry that can make them become rich when they know how to play with it. Everywhere there are too many greedy people that they think that sometimes manipulating by their own power will give them huge benefits and that is why we can't deny that there is corruption even in gambling because this is a common practice from our political people.

Political power plus huge money can manipulate and create corruption not even in gambling.

That would be easier for them to manipulate the sport if they have politicians behind them, it would add more confidence on the crooks as they know if they get caught, some powerful politician will protect them if we live in that kind of world, it's not only sports that are messed up, even the future of our children and the country as we whole.

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September 13, 2021, 10:24:53 AM
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The main reason why corruption happens in sports is the big money stake in it, make sports betting illegal and there will be no more corruption. The sports betting industry as reported is a billion-dollar industry, with that huge money, I think greedy people will be interested in taking their share, and that is using their influence for their personal benefit.
I think anything that involves money is prone to corruption, there is big money in the gambling industry that can make them become rich when they know how to play with it. Everywhere there are too many greedy people that they think that sometimes manipulating by their own power will give them huge benefits and that is why we can't deny that there is corruption even in gambling because this is a common practice from our political people.

Political power plus huge money can manipulate and create corruption not even in gambling.

That would be easier for them to manipulate the sport if they have politicians behind them, it would add more confidence on the crooks as they know if they get caught, some powerful politician will protect them if we live in that kind of world, it's not only sports that are messed up, even the future of our children and the country as we whole.
Politicians who seek money are ruining our country; the fact that they ran for office in the first place because they only wanted the benefits and salary of the position is already a problem. They will continue to enter areas where money is involved especially gambling and take advantage of it. I despise such movements; our taxes are being squandered as a result, rather than being used to advance our country. That's why I don't usually support politicians who have a history of gambling; most of them are probably addicted to it, and there's a chance they'll use the money of the people to their advantage.
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