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March 08, 2021, 09:49:08 PM
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Indeed, it is very difficult to separate sports and corruption, because in reality the two are closely related. Because for corruptors, sport is the easiest
way to make money. They just need to arrange the results of the match the way they want. They can do this by giving bribes to the referee or
athlete. Because sports are very much in demand all over the world.

Therefore, now there are so many sports betting platforms that have sprung up. Another interesting fact is that it is very difficult to eradicate corruption
in this world. Because corruption occurs everywhere, perhaps it is the human nature of being greedy to make corruption always happen.

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March 08, 2021, 09:51:57 PM
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Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
Wil depend on what game is too popular in that country. There are scripted games sometimes for the sake of doing illegal activities or by mere fact of being corrupt or putting money to the players to just do what they wanted, it can be from soccer, football, boxing or even in basketball as long as there officials who see opportunities to gain profit from it even in a biased way they will try for sure to do it.
This is indeed the reality but pointing out on what games had been fixed already or being involved with some manipulative behavior then its really hard to determine which one because

you wouldn't know if those are mere coincidence or just being rigged since from the start.We are on the world where people does have the power and influence would able to control
something that they do like.

Corruption is always been part but what are the things we would able to do?

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March 08, 2021, 10:18:59 PM
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Are you telling that India had 20 million professional cricket players till now or there are 20 million players playing matches and if that the latter is true it is a huge number of players and do you have the infrastructure to allocate these players as county matches will not accumulate millions of players and how many county teams are there in India. My guess is that you have the numbers wrong, i know the population i huge but to have 20 million professional players is a huge number.
Oops, seems like I added a zero. It's around 2 million players and by calling them professional players, I am counting people who play matches for a living. In India many companies hire you if you have played cricket for the current state you are residing in and I have seen various examples for the same! The numbers could be nearly equivalent to what I have posted as for instance consider :

People playing cricket professionally in the age of 15-20 could be around 50,000 from each state and data from popular states alone could bring numbers ranging between 500,000 - 1 million. If we consider people of the age between 20-40 they could range anywhere between 500,000 - 1 million again. Hence there could be an easy number ranging between 2 million users who are playing cricket professionally to earn a living.
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March 08, 2021, 10:23:51 PM
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Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
the average is soccer...
in my country, 'soccer' is the most popular sport and after that badminton, other sports are only a small part and 'soccer' in my country has a bad history such as nepotism and scoring manipulation.
Yes, the same in my country. Practically the "whole country" plays soccer, maybe ~ 70% of the sport is focused on soccer.
So, with this high percentage rate, a good part of the corruption is in soccer in my country, but it is logical that there is also corruption in other sports, but on a smaller scale.
Even FIFA was accused of corruption several times, so I think soccer is the most corrupt sport globally talking. There are many situations involving money laudering, bribery, fraud and all the kind of thinkable cheating with FIFA. Actually any activity in this world involving too many different individuals, countries and a lot of money has some corruption going on.

Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
Wil depend on what game is too popular in that country. There are scripted games sometimes for the sake of doing illegal activities or by mere fact of being corrupt or putting money to the players to just do what they wanted, it can be from soccer, football, boxing or even in basketball as long as there officials who see opportunities to gain profit from it even in a biased way they will try for sure to do it.

Yes, I agree! Soccer is the most famous sport in the world (generalizing), and I think it is also the one that moves the most money worldwide.
I think that another important factor is the country, because depending on the rules and laws they can favor a certain type of activity related to corruption.


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March 08, 2021, 10:32:35 PM
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Indeed, it is very difficult to separate sports and corruption, because in reality the two are closely related. Because for corruptors, sport is the easiest
way to make money. They just need to arrange the results of the match the way they want. They can do this by giving bribes to the referee or
athlete. Because sports are very much in demand all over the world.

Therefore, now there are so many sports betting platforms that have sprung up. Another interesting fact is that it is very difficult to eradicate corruption
in this world. Because corruption occurs everywhere, perhaps it is the human nature of being greedy to make corruption always happen.

We can't escape from this human nature anytime soon. And corruption exists in all forms, this is quite difficult to eradicate not only in sports but almost all industries as well. We can't even name one industry where corruption never occurred. So yes, this will stay  for the rest of our lives. So it is hard to expect that every game is a clean one, you just hope that it is.
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March 08, 2021, 10:43:27 PM
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Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

There's corruption in every industry not only in gambling and in every country where there is a relaxation of the regulations and the authorities and regulators are very easy on corrupt people, but there will also be a syndicate that will bribe the government and sports officials and players to fix the game, it's easy money for them, whenever a favorite player or team losses a game, there's always a hint of corruption.

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March 09, 2021, 03:21:58 AM
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They are not coerced to corrupt because those corrupt officials only offer them the money and obey what they want. The decision will be up to the players, but the players can get tempt because of big money offered to them. Although that money is not too big to compare to the corrupt officials, that is big money for the players, and maybe that money will be bigger than what they got from their payment.

They are not forced, but if they don't comply, sometimes their careers are played by the corruptors.  Because by having money they use all means to achieve their goals.  So sometimes, like it or not, the players accept corruption.  Those who don't want their careers to be ruined should resort to such dirty things.

Maybe that is the risk that they will get if they do not follow the corrupt officials to the sportsmen or the players. We do not know what will happen to their careers, but that might happen to them. If that is the case, they can only follow and shut their mouth without saying to other people. The corrupt officials guarantee them that they will be saved as long as they follow them. That will make a hard decision for the players because that is related to their careers and, sometimes, their life.

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March 09, 2021, 04:55:58 AM
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They are not coerced to corrupt because those corrupt officials only offer them the money and obey what they want. The decision will be up to the players, but the players can get tempt because of big money offered to them. Although that money is not too big to compare to the corrupt officials, that is big money for the players, and maybe that money will be bigger than what they got from their payment.
You don't clearly know what happens behind the scenes, there are players that are coerced to do it because some of them have principles so bribing them isn't a feasible option for the officials. Yes, the decision is up to the players but when you are coerced, you either stand by your principle which could have dire consequences or you accept the condition because you have someone you care about. It is not that bigger than the players payment but it will always come down whether they accept it or they are coerced.

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They are not coerced to corrupt because those corrupt officials only offer them the money and obey what they want. The decision will be up to the players, but the players can get tempt because of big money offered to them. Although that money is not too big to compare to the corrupt officials, that is big money for the players, and maybe that money will be bigger than what they got from their payment.
You don't clearly know what happens behind the scenes, there are players that are coerced to do it because some of them have principles so bribing them isn't a feasible option for the officials. Yes, the decision is up to the players but when you are coerced, you either stand by your principle which could have dire consequences or you accept the condition because you have someone you care about. It is not that bigger than the players payment but it will always come down whether they accept it or they are coerced.

I support your point of view. In addition, the practice of blackmail and coercion to the necessary actions under the condition of non-disclosure of compromising information is very often used among the corrupt and bribe takers. So if a player has ever been involved in corrupt schemes, then get out of this vicious circle will be virtually unrealistic, as either he will lose his reputation or will continue to do what he is told. 

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March 09, 2021, 05:36:32 AM
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Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
I think the most corrupt now is Basketball , Even the most established league in the world ( in which NBA) is now getting involved in to this kind.
and in my country there are so Many issues about a Celebrity player is being Paid to bring the game down and let the opponent wins the game .
this is a clear corruption from side to side.
and also this s the reason why those stupidity bringing down the game popularity .









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March 10, 2021, 02:04:26 AM
 #191

Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
I think the most corrupt now is Basketball , Even the most established league in the world ( in which NBA) is now getting involved in to this kind.
and in my country there are so Many issues about a Celebrity player is being Paid to bring the game down and let the opponent wins the game .
this is a clear corruption from side to side.
and also this s the reason why those stupidity bringing down the game popularity .
wow, I'm surprised, I couldn't imagine that basketball could be the most corrupt today!!!
Especially in NBA, where US rules can be strict with whoever commits this crime.

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They are not coerced to corrupt because those corrupt officials only offer them the money and obey what they want. The decision will be up to the players, but the players can get tempt because of big money offered to them. Although that money is not too big to compare to the corrupt officials, that is big money for the players, and maybe that money will be bigger than what they got from their payment.
You don't clearly know what happens behind the scenes, there are players that are coerced to do it because some of them have principles so bribing them isn't a feasible option for the officials. Yes, the decision is up to the players but when you are coerced, you either stand by your principle which could have dire consequences or you accept the condition because you have someone you care about. It is not that bigger than the players payment but it will always come down whether they accept it or they are coerced.

The worst thing the players can get is get fired from the club without any reason but to disobey the rule. That will stop the player's careers and they will not have any chance to play the game for the rest of their life. Yes, I know that some players coerced to do it because I heard some local players caught by the local officers, and big money has been in their hand. It is a serious matter for player and jobs for the government to be solved and the government needs to protect the players from that thing.

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The worst thing the players can get is get fired from the club without any reason but to disobey the rule. That will stop the player's careers and they will not have any chance to play the game for the rest of their life. Yes, I know that some players coerced to do it because I heard some local players caught by the local officers, and big money has been in their hand. It is a serious matter for player and jobs for the government to be solved and the government needs to protect the players from that thing.

Players who doesn't wants to get involve with this kind of activities are prone of being thrown away by the team.

Chain of commands and with those big influenced behind the associations, those players most of the time doesn't have the choice, instead of playing clean, with money and pressures from those people behind they'll choose to go along the wave, even how clean they wanted the game, they are not in control but those who managing / manipulating things behind.
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They are not coerced to corrupt because those corrupt officials only offer them the money and obey what they want. The decision will be up to the players, but the players can get tempt because of big money offered to them. Although that money is not too big to compare to the corrupt officials, that is big money for the players, and maybe that money will be bigger than what they got from their payment.

They are not forced, but if they don't comply, sometimes their careers are played by the corruptors.  Because by having money they use all means to achieve their goals.  So sometimes, like it or not, the players accept corruption.  Those who don't want their careers to be ruined should resort to such dirty things.

Maybe that is the risk that they will get if they do not follow the corrupt officials to the sportsmen or the players. We do not know what will happen to their careers, but that might happen to them. If that is the case, they can only follow and shut their mouth without saying to other people. The corrupt officials guarantee them that they will be saved as long as they follow them. That will make a hard decision for the players because that is related to their careers and, sometimes, their life.
i don't believe that they are being forced to do that instead they are being Blinded by the Huge amount of money that has been offered to them.

Imagine that the amount sometimes is enough for them to retire?

My cousin has a close friend in which one of the most famous Basketball player in our time now Here in my country and He admits that corruption is happening and sad to say that they are being part of it.

Because how can you deny a year contract payment that you will only earn in a singe championship game?

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The worst thing the players can get is get fired from the club without any reason but to disobey the rule. That will stop the player's careers and they will not have any chance to play the game for the rest of their life. Yes, I know that some players coerced to do it because I heard some local players caught by the local officers, and big money has been in their hand. It is a serious matter for player and jobs for the government to be solved and the government needs to protect the players from that thing.

Players who doesn't wants to get involve with this kind of activities are prone of being thrown away by the team.

Chain of commands and with those big influenced behind the associations, those players most of the time doesn't have the choice, instead of playing clean, with money and pressures from those people behind they'll choose to go along the wave, even how clean they wanted the game, they are not in control but those who managing / manipulating things behind.

Like Mafia?
Does that happen in reality?
I have never seen news about one team doing the same thing. Throwing the game just for the purpose of money or they are blackmailed.
I do know about boxers acting though. Like they are knocked out but not really. It's to avoid hurting themselves after they are already paid by someone else just to lose the game.
It's actually funny because the act was caught on camera.

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March 10, 2021, 05:24:05 PM
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The worst thing the players can get is get fired from the club without any reason but to disobey the rule. That will stop the player's careers and they will not have any chance to play the game for the rest of their life. Yes, I know that some players coerced to do it because I heard some local players caught by the local officers, and big money has been in their hand. It is a serious matter for player and jobs for the government to be solved and the government needs to protect the players from that thing.

Players who doesn't wants to get involve with this kind of activities are prone of being thrown away by the team.

Chain of commands and with those big influenced behind the associations, those players most of the time doesn't have the choice, instead of playing clean, with money and pressures from those people behind they'll choose to go along the wave, even how clean they wanted the game, they are not in control but those who managing / manipulating things behind.

Like Mafia?
Does that happen in reality?
I have never seen news about one team doing the same thing. Throwing the game just for the purpose of money or they are blackmailed.
I do know about boxers acting though. Like they are knocked out but not really. It's to avoid hurting themselves after they are already paid by someone else just to lose the game.
It's actually funny because the act was caught on camera.
Yes, myself too haven't come across such news. I've come across the management providing drugs to players before the games which weren't legally adviced. This is done mostly for added stamina which helps in the winning of match. A team coach/managing head will never involve into similar form of corruption, because it will be mentioned as an anti-national activity.
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March 10, 2021, 10:58:06 PM
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I guess every politician aims to abolish corruption in all shapes and forms but it is my first time encountering it being very particular to Sport Corruption. Now this could be due to various reasons that us outsiders wouldn't know but if it involves using the Government Funds then that could be a call to action. Hence why these politicians in your country are very specific about it.
Indeed, it is very difficult to separate sports and corruption, because in reality the two are closely related. Because for corruptors, sport is the easiest
way to make money. They just need to arrange the results of the match the way they want. They can do this by giving bribes to the referee or
athlete. Because sports are very much in demand all over the world.

Therefore, now there are so many sports betting platforms that have sprung up. Another interesting fact is that it is very difficult to eradicate corruption
in this world. Because corruption occurs everywhere, perhaps it is the human nature of being greedy to make corruption always happen.
sports is undoubtably intertwined with corruption, but the thing is, if let's say the government of the United States all of a sudden released a statement that the Superbowl will be under surveillance to ensure that no corruption will go on, then that means for something major or weird happening in the backgroumd.

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March 11, 2021, 12:25:58 AM
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Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
It is going to be difficult to find precise data about it because those that are cheating are not going to go out of their way to try to tell you what they're doing and how they are manipulating things around different sports in order to gain an unfair advantage, however taking into account that soccer is the most popular sport in the entire world by far and it is the sport that moves the most money I think it is a fair assumption to make that most of the corruption in the sport world is in that sport.
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March 11, 2021, 02:24:45 AM
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Players who doesn't wants to get involve with this kind of activities are prone of being thrown away by the team.

Chain of commands and with those big influenced behind the associations, those players most of the time doesn't have the choice, instead of playing clean, with money and pressures from those people behind they'll choose to go along the wave, even how clean they wanted the game, they are not in control but those who managing / manipulating things behind.

Yes, they will not be used as the team, and they can not even play on the other team in that country. Maybe the only way for them is to go to the other country and search for the other team which can accept them. If there are no ways out for that player, I think they need to search for another activity to help them survive.

Corruption and sports can still happen if there is no support from the government and strict action from them.

i don't believe that they are being forced to do that instead they are being Blinded by the Huge amount of money that has been offered to them.

Imagine that the amount sometimes is enough for them to retire?

My cousin has a close friend in which one of the most famous Basketball player in our time now Here in my country and He admits that corruption is happening and sad to say that they are being part of it.

Because how can you deny a year contract payment that you will only earn in a singe championship game?

Some of them are being forced, but some others accept the offers because of huge money. That money will be enough for them, but if they are greedy, there is not enough money for them because they will feel hungry for the money.

That is happening in many countries, and not just in your country, because corruption is happening everywhere. They can not avoid that because they will not be used by the team anymore if they try to run from that.

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March 11, 2021, 02:05:57 PM
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Well, after some comments that I read, I thought to myself, because I couldn't find an exact answer ...

Does anyone know what kind of sport is more corrupt and manipulated these days? Soccer? Boxe?

Corruption in sports is generally greater in developed or underdeveloped countries?
It is going to be difficult to find precise data about it because those that are cheating are not going to go out of their way to try to tell you what they're doing and how they are manipulating things around different sports in order to gain an unfair advantage, however taking into account that soccer is the most popular sport in the entire world by far and it is the sport that moves the most money I think it is a fair assumption to make that most of the corruption in the sport world is in that sport.

According to this article, football is the most popular sport for sports betting, so your assumption is right.

https://lastwordonsports.com/2020/06/15/most-popular-sports-betting/

and it rank as follows.

1 Football
2 Tennis
3 American Football
4 Horse Racing
5 Basketball

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