Corruption and Sports

[michellee]

Corrupt behavior with a consumptive lifestyle makes people close their eyes to punishment.

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

Maybe there is a punishment, but that is only for the formality and they let the public knows about that, but they really do not mean about the punishment. But the corruption is everywhere in many businesses, and it makes many corrupt officials involved in that business.

I agree that if the law is abode and the punishment really gives to the corrupt people, that will make the violators think twice and not try to corrupt. That can reduce the number of corruption that will happen.

[uneng]

Corrupt behavior with a consumptive lifestyle makes people close their eyes to punishment.

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

Maybe there is a punishment, but that is only for the formality and they let the public knows about that, but they really do not mean about the punishment. But the corruption is everywhere in many businesses, and it makes many corrupt officials involved in that business.

I agree that if the law is abode and the punishment really gives to the corrupt people, that will make the violators think twice and not try to corrupt. That can reduce the number of corruption that will happen.

The problem with corruption punishments is that when the big fishes are caught, they aren't punished accordingly, as they are connected to judiciary and political members. As they are protected, the impunity reigns in the country, because the common citizens see what happens at the upper levels of the society and don't have any positive examples to follow.
So the common people also go through the corrupt way, as if the big fishes aren't punished, they believe to not be punished as well. And that is what is seen in every sectors of the society. In sports, corrupt referees receives bribery to favor a team or another, what creates chaos among the crowd/fans, leading to violent fights, which result in casualties sometimes. In the end, nothing happens to people involved on these acts or just some of them receive a penalty.

It's just a consequence example of impunity reigning.

[passwordnow]

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

That's right, the punishment for some countries don't have the teeth and they're just going to pay the fine and they're going to render the days that's punished to them upon suspension.
Those punishments are easy to take because they're just going to pay and if their suspended, they'll just go into training and they're going to be back soon.

[Viscore]

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

That's right, the punishment for some countries don't have the teeth and they're just going to pay the fine and they're going to render the days that's punished to them upon suspension.
Those punishments are easy to take because they're just going to pay and if their suspended, they'll just go into training and they're going to be back soon.

Maybe the cases is not so rampant yet, but the moment they see that it's been widely abuse, then probably they will amend the rules to put a more serious punishment on anyone who violate the law particularly the "game fixing" which could involve big money especially if its a big market in bookies.

[michellee]

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The problem with corruption punishments is that when the big fishes are caught, they aren't punished accordingly, as they are connected to judiciary and political members. As they are protected, the impunity reigns in the country, because the common citizens see what happens at the upper levels of the society and don't have any positive examples to follow.
So the common people also go through the corrupt way, as if the big fishes aren't punished, they believe to not be punished as well. And that is what is seen in every sectors of the society. In sports, corrupt referees receives bribery to favor a team or another, what creates chaos among the crowd/fans, leading to violent fights, which result in casualties sometimes. In the end, nothing happens to people involved on these acts or just some of them receive a penalty.

It's just a consequence example of impunity reigning.

Unfortunately, the punishment has been given to the common citizens because the upper levels of the society seem untouchable by the law. That makes the corruption in high-level citizens still happen without people out there knows because they get something like immunity from the law. The common people will get punish and get in jail, while when the high-level citizens get in jail, they will get more luxury amenities than the common people. That gives social jealousy among the people, but the government does not do anything.

That is happening in any country. But we do not know if that is happening because the media has been paid not to tell the public.

[boyptc]

If player is not get paid well, he can fall under some shady agreements like fixed games . This is how life is going

That really triggers players to get into corruption if they are not well compensated. Because if they do, they wouldn't let themselves be part of corruption and match fixing.

It is all about the money and as we know in sports, there's a lot of money that gets in and out through it.

[Mauser]

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

That's right, the punishment for some countries don't have the teeth and they're just going to pay the fine and they're going to render the days that's punished to them upon suspension.
Those punishments are easy to take because they're just going to pay and if their suspended, they'll just go into training and they're going to be back soon.

It seems that in most countries the punishment is just not enough severe enough. In my opinion when caught cheating there should always be a lifetime sports ban and a civil charge to recover the last 2 years salary. It can't be that the athletes are being paid millions and break the trust of the fans like that. Even Valve lowered their punishments on cheaters and will let them play again after a few years. There shouldn't be new chances if you are caught. They are already lucky not to go to prison.

[iTradeChips]

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

That's right, the punishment for some countries don't have the teeth and they're just going to pay the fine and they're going to render the days that's punished to them upon suspension.
Those punishments are easy to take because they're just going to pay and if their suspended, they'll just go into training and they're going to be back soon.

Paying penalties, fees, and not playing for a specific number of seasons or weeks is for me a very light punishment. We need strict regulations that would ensure these people to be punished severely for their actions like tampering and game manipulation. Suspension is already good, but there should be jail time as well. If not jail time, then at least community work and public apology should also be adequate punishments. Them knowing many people already know their previous deed would ensure that they will play fair next time.

[Slow death]

In my country there is a very big and serious problem, the corruption that is in the sport is something very big and worrying, the tournament winners are decided before the tournament starts, to be some club manager in my country, it is necessary that people whether from the political party in power, all sponsors only sponsor sports clubs where there are only presidents of the ruling party, corruption is very high in my country and sport is not evolving for that reason

Corruption seems to have become a disease that is hard to get rid of in sports circles, in this case it does not only happen in your country, my country also has the same thing, Corrupt behavior with a consumptive lifestyle makes people close their eyes to punishment.

in africa corruption is at a frightening level, in all areas corruption is involved, if the person is not corrupt in africa then that person cannot get involved in government and sport positions, or he will either have a heart attack or he will be murdered

[Yamifoud]

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

That's right, the punishment for some countries don't have the teeth and they're just going to pay the fine and they're going to render the days that's punished to them upon suspension.
Those punishments are easy to take because they're just going to pay and if their suspended, they'll just go into training and they're going to be back soon.

Paying penalties, fees, and not playing for a specific number of seasons or weeks is for me a very light punishment. We need strict regulations that would ensure these people to be punished severely for their actions like tampering and game manipulation. Suspension is already good, but there should be jail time as well. If not jail time, then at least community work and public apology should also be adequate punishments. Them knowing many people already know their previous deed would ensure that they will play fair next time.

That's correct, this is just a small league so these players has not put a lot of value as if they will be suspended here, they can still look for other league to play since they have the talent, the bad thing is, they can still do the same rigging again which only makes our sports reputation worst.

[passwordnow]

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

That's right, the punishment for some countries don't have the teeth and they're just going to pay the fine and they're going to render the days that's punished to them upon suspension.
Those punishments are easy to take because they're just going to pay and if their suspended, they'll just go into training and they're going to be back soon.

Maybe the cases is not so rampant yet, but the moment they see that it's been widely abuse, then probably they will amend the rules to put a more serious punishment on anyone who violate the law particularly the "game fixing" which could involve big money especially if its a big market in bookies.

What I think is that cases like these have became isolated. And for those who are risking their sports career and have no choice be involved on it are really forced due to those reasons and other management issues that they've found.

It seems that in most countries the punishment is just not enough severe enough. In my opinion when caught cheating there should always be a lifetime sports ban and a civil charge to recover the last 2 years salary. It can't be that the athletes are being paid millions and break the trust of the fans like that. Even Valve lowered their punishments on cheaters and will let them play again after a few years. There shouldn't be new chances if you are caught. They are already lucky not to go to prison.

Yes, their ruling isn't that much too scary and needs to sharpen the teeth of their law regards to this issue.

[Viscore]

Sometimes the punishment is really a problem, on some countries, when someone caught cheating in sports, a cheater will just be fine on or ban, there's no criminal liability, if that punishment will be serious, then I guess these violators will think twice before doing it.

That's right, the punishment for some countries don't have the teeth and they're just going to pay the fine and they're going to render the days that's punished to them upon suspension.
Those punishments are easy to take because they're just going to pay and if their suspended, they'll just go into training and they're going to be back soon.

Maybe the cases is not so rampant yet, but the moment they see that it's been widely abuse, then probably they will amend the rules to put a more serious punishment on anyone who violate the law particularly the "game fixing" which could involve big money especially if its a big market in bookies.

What I think is that cases like these have became isolated. And for those who are risking their sports career and have no choice be involved on it are really forced due to those reasons and other management issues that they've found.

It's only an isolated if the league will not make a serious action on this, they maybe are trying to protect their reputation without knowing it will only make this kind of activity to spread in the league, and people will slowly loss their trust on the league especially the advertisers which usually gives a good amount for the success of the league. you know, reputation really matters a lot and they need to protect it.

[passwordnow]

What I think is that cases like these have became isolated. And for those who are risking their sports career and have no choice be involved on it are really forced due to those reasons and other management issues that they've found.

It's only an isolated if the league will not make a serious action on this, they maybe are trying to protect their reputation without knowing it will only make this kind of activity to spread in the league, and people will slowly loss their trust on the league especially the advertisers which usually gives a good amount for the success of the league. you know, reputation really matters a lot and they need to protect it.

Reputation does matters and that's why a league's management are getting rid of it as much as they can and, as soon as they've found out that something like this existed.
But hopefully, most of these corruptions and sell outs won't happen anymore in bigger leagues that we've used to follow because their following are really high and they know how huge the fan base they have in the world.

[michellee]

What I think is that cases like these have became isolated. And for those who are risking their sports career and have no choice be involved on it are really forced due to those reasons and other management issues that they've found.

It's only an isolated if the league will not make a serious action on this, they maybe are trying to protect their reputation without knowing it will only make this kind of activity to spread in the league, and people will slowly loss their trust on the league especially the advertisers which usually gives a good amount for the success of the league. you know, reputation really matters a lot and they need to protect it.

Reputation does matters and that's why a league's management are getting rid of it as much as they can and, as soon as they've found out that something like this existed.
But hopefully, most of these corruptions and sell outs won't happen anymore in bigger leagues that we've used to follow because their following are really high and they know how huge the fan base they have in the world.

Although eradicating the corruptions is not easy, we need to be sure that someday that thing can eliminate from sports so people and fans can enjoy the match without any fixing match from the corrupt people.
It is a big job from the clean officers to investigate all people who corrupt in sports, and that will need time to reveal all of the things in the public. Hopefully, everything will solve in the right time.

[carlisle1]

Reputation does matters and that's why a league's management are getting rid of it as much as they can and, as soon as they've found out that something like this existed.

They'll lose a lot if they'll not take any actions whenever there's information regarding to this corruptions or other illegal things that present
from their jurisdiction.  Good thing that there are many people now who are concern about this and willing to help.

But hopefully, most of these corruptions and sell outs won't happen anymore in bigger leagues that we've used to follow because their following are really high and they know how huge the fan base they have in the world.

Big league are being monitored and likewise, there are many things to risk if something like this was proven, better to avoid or if possible to stop

better to take the action the sooner the possible.

[Swopon]

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

Whenever a players involved with match fixing for losing the match, there has a huge budget for him to do it and that's how the big gameplay gambling is running. That's why, there has a huge demand for gambling in the market. Corruption and sports are relatively involved with each other.

[DU18]

Corruption has been a big problem in various countries for decades, economic impetus is the initial cause of corrupt behavior, the consumptive lifestyle then plunges more people into corruption, the misguided permissiveness of society and the indifference of the government in eradicating corruption makes it even more prevalent and also does not escape, corruption has now spread to sports, which have always had the motto "uphold sportsmanship" as if now they are only used as a gold field to get wealth by those who claim to love sports, even in my country there have been several changes of sports ministers involved in corruption cases and it seems that now this corruption has become a culture for officials.

[passwordnow]

Although eradicating the corruptions is not easy, we need to be sure that someday that thing can eliminate from sports so people and fans can enjoy the match without any fixing match from the corrupt people.
It is a big job from the clean officers to investigate all people who corrupt in sports, and that will need time to reveal all of the things in the public. Hopefully, everything will solve in the right time.

We're also enjoying even without knowing that corruption is happening behind the teams and management. But we just hope for the best that in the future, it will be completely wiped out.

They'll lose a lot if they'll not take any actions whenever there's information regarding to this corruptions or other illegal things that present
from their jurisdiction.  Good thing that there are many people now who are concern about this and willing to help.

It's a big business today and that's why there are many who are willing to help but still can't maintain the cleanliness of it. We'll never know the hidden corruption until someone exposes them.

[michellee]

Although eradicating the corruptions is not easy, we need to be sure that someday that thing can eliminate from sports so people and fans can enjoy the match without any fixing match from the corrupt people.
It is a big job from the clean officers to investigate all people who corrupt in sports, and that will need time to reveal all of the things in the public. Hopefully, everything will solve in the right time.

We're also enjoying even without knowing that corruption is happening behind the teams and management. But we just hope for the best that in the future, it will be completely wiped out.

People who do not know about corruption happen in that sports will enjoy and not think the match already set it up. If we have more clean officers fighting against corruption, sooner or later, that corruption will be wiped out, making the sports clean from the corruption.

They'll lose a lot if they'll not take any actions whenever there's information regarding to this corruptions or other illegal things that present
from their jurisdiction.  Good thing that there are many people now who are concern about this and willing to help.

It's a big business today and that's why there are many who are willing to help but still can't maintain the cleanliness of it. We'll never know the hidden corruption until someone exposes them.

Yes, both of you are right. It needs an investigate furthermore to know who is the person behind of the corruption. If the person can do something if they got the information about the corruption, it could give the chance to do something to know deeper.

[Alucard1]

Corruption is everywhere even in sports, even if the government will intervene, there are still greedy people who will commit a crime to serve their personal interest. Sports fixing brings big money to fixers, that's why they will not stop if they will not get caught, this is not new, not only in our country but it's all over the world as the world game-fixing is happening in every country.

Yeah thats true, corruption is very common in many factors of our lives, that is why I am so tired of gambling because most of the time I feel like the platform that I am playing is not fair or just a scam. In any gambling website or any casino gambling the owner of the gambling will always be the winner, it is really hard for us to win on it because there is always a house edge in any gambling site. Corruption is also very common in any politics that is why most of their promises get broken because of corruption.